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Sudokhan	Posted - 2008.01.15 06:39:00 - [1] well i dont know if any one else has feeling on this but do you think that neutralisers are dominating pvp senario's, in 1vs1 situations you can just about cope with them even when your fighting a domi, but during a small gang operations involving bs's neutralisers are the most common thing fitted to ships, when the primary gets attacked with in 5-10sec's his capasitor is at 15% or lower elimanating any oppottunity for fitting an active tank, which is making the only viable setup a armour soak tank that dosnt require cap to run, but wouldnt this lead you to believe that neutralisers are infuencing pvp far too much. Has CCP yet again fixed one problem but in turn made a much bigger problem?
r0b0to Aliastra	Posted - 2008.01.15 06:40:00 - [2] no ----------- D:
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.01.15 06:41:00 - [3] Its started... SKUNK
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.15 06:41:00 - [4] Edited by: Gamesguy on 15/01/2008 06:42:01 Neutralizers hasnt changed in ages. Neutralizers, web, and drones is what allows a bs to combat smaller ships. Out of all of those, I'd say the web is the only thing thats overpowered. Drones can be kited/killed. Neutralizers require a huge sacrafice in fitting and takes his own cap as well. Web is just a 13km line in the sand that says "pass this and you die".
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.15 06:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Le Skunk Its started... SKUNK I'm going to laugh if nanos get nerfed, and everybody starts whining about remote reps.
Riho Drop of Blood	Posted - 2008.01.15 06:45:00 - [6] Originally by: Sudokhan well i dont know if any one else has feeling on this but do you think that neutralisers are dominating pvp senario's, in 1vs1 situations you can just about cope with them even when your fighting a domi, but during a small gang operations involving bs's neutralisers are the most common thing fitted to ships, when the primary gets attacked with in 5-10sec's his capasitor is at 15% or lower elimanating any oppottunity for fitting an active tank, which is making the only viable setup a armour soak tank that dosnt require cap to run, but wouldnt this lead you to believe that neutralisers are infuencing pvp far too much. Has CCP yet again fixed one problem but in turn made a much bigger problem? seriously... go away. Nos was a problem as you got cap from enemy... but whit neuts you use your own cap to kill enemys cap. its allmost the only weapon against nano ships and smaller stuff when your in a BS. so... NEUTs are not overpowerd ---------------------------------- Seems that there's a new game that seems to be very popular whit whiners these days. Its called EFT Online. dont listen those people.. as they dont have a clue
Sudokhan	Posted - 2008.01.15 06:52:00 - [7] what so when there making active tanks useless and making soak tanks the only thing that can stand against them, so there not over powered, what you say about nano ships is correct yes it is the only weapon against them but then again that just puts us on to the point that the nano ship is still over powered, hell i've seen mach's doing 26km/s which in my opinion i dont think ccp ever designed any ship above the interceptor to go that fast, its all a big long line of things that need to be changed ingame.
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.01.15 06:57:00 - [8] Edited by: goodby4u on 15/01/2008 06:58:38 Originally by: Sudokhan what so when there making active tanks useless and making soak tanks the only thing that can stand against them, so there not over powered, what you say about nano ships is correct yes it is the only weapon against them but then again that just puts us on to the point that the nano ship is still over powered, hell i've seen mach's doing 26km/s which in my opinion i dont think ccp ever designed any ship above the interceptor to go that fast, its all a big long line of things that need to be changed ingame. By crippling the enemy he cripples himself,if its only 1 or 2 neuts then it wouldnt be as bad as you put it...And if its a gang then if they fit guns then the target wouldve emploded before he ran out of cap. Btw for future referense,do not say anything is overpowered,by what ive seen is if one person whines carelessly about 1 highly used mod ccp nerfs that device until nobody in their right mind would use it. Signature removed. Contains no Eve content. Navigator ([email protected])
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.01.15 07:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Le Skunk Its started... SKUNK Please god no. They've only just taken away our nos. Leave us with something you bastards.
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.01.15 07:46:00 - [10] Neuts are fine. There are a large number of ways to lessen their effectiveness from altering your set-up to be less cap intensive to bringing cap transfer logistics. Most active tanks will run happily with 1-2 staggered neuts on them provided your utilizing your cap charges correctly. On a larger scale proper utilization of neuting focused BS requires good support, proper defense does too. If you can still tank and fire then they have a battleship that is reduced to being a useless lump of hitpoints. Alternatively a single passive tanked heavy tackler can easily pin down such a ship leaving the rest of you free to move out of range. If you can't move out of range, can't tank, and can't fire then your opponents tactics, set-ups, and pilots are just plain better than yours and your going to die. In addition they are an essential part of most anti-capital operations. I admit there is a huge disparity between passive and active tanks when it comes to solo and very small (2-3) gang ops but the fault there is nothing to do with neuts and it would likely be very difficult to balance the two at that level without unbalancing larger gangs.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Dark-Rising The Dawn of Darkness	Posted - 2008.01.15 07:47:00 - [11] WTH! As if pilgrim and sentinel werent gimped enough. Kill thread please. ------------------------------------------- [Video]The Inquisition II - Vanguardian
ArmyOfMe Exotic Dancers Club	Posted - 2008.01.15 07:50:00 - [12] Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: Le Skunk Its started... SKUNK I'm going to laugh if nanos get nerfed, and everybody starts whining about remote reps. dont even say that out loud
Maximillian Power Minmatar Twilight Faction	Posted - 2008.01.15 07:55:00 - [13] Originally by: ArmyOfMe Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: Le Skunk Its started... SKUNK I'm going to laugh if nanos get nerfed, and everybody starts whining about remote reps. dont even say that out loud I've heard people crying for remote reps to be nerfed already. Which is nuts tbqh -------------------------------- So....
Sir Dancealot	Posted - 2008.01.15 07:56:00 - [14] Edited by: Sir Dancealot on 15/01/2008 07:56:47 Originally by: Maximillian Power Originally by: ArmyOfMe Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: Le Skunk Its started... SKUNK I'm going to laugh if nanos get nerfed, and everybody starts whining about remote reps. dont even say that out loud I've heard people crying for remote reps to be nerfed already. Which is nuts tbqh That is quite the idea actually Originally by: Incantare Thread does not deliver. I was expecting a story, funny, surprising or otherwise interesting. Instead I got to read Kehmor's smacking. Awesome.
Ralara	Posted - 2008.01.15 07:58:00 - [15] Heh IRL when I saw this thread title, I said "oh for fuh.."
Neon Genesis The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2008.01.15 07:58:00 - [16] Originally by: Le Skunk Its started... SKUNK _
Elias Modron	Posted - 2008.01.15 08:13:00 - [17] Originally by: Sudokhan mach's doing 26km/s Machariels doing 26km/s? Is that even possible?
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.01.15 08:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Elias Modron Originally by: Sudokhan mach's doing 26km/s Machariels doing 26km/s? Is that even possible? ive seen solo ones do 10k so I am gonna guess that achieving that with the right setup and support is not that difficult, just expensive
Raekone	Posted - 2008.01.15 08:21:00 - [19] I'd condone a nerf of neutralizers. They're one of the modules still left in the game that negate any actual skill or means for a pilot to personally influense the outcome of the battle he/she is in - short of always fitting them himself and hoping for the best. Just like NOS where. In fact if I where in charge, and be very happy I'm not, I'd remove both nos and neuts entirely from the game. The capacitor is what you have to survive - taking it away is like wiping your arse with no hands.
Kadoes Khan	Posted - 2008.01.15 08:28:00 - [20] Originally by: Raekone I'd condone a nerf of neutralizers. They're one of the modules still left in the game that negate any actual skill or means for a pilot to personally influense the outcome of the battle he/she is in - short of always fitting them himself and hoping for the best. Just like NOS where. In fact if I where in charge, and be very happy I'm not, I'd remove both nos and neuts entirely from the game. The capacitor is what you have to survive - taking it away is like wiping your arse with no hands. Following that train wreck of logic you'd also want to remove Cap Boosters. -=^=- "Someday the world will recognize the genius in my insanity."
Addison Caine	Posted - 2008.01.15 08:42:00 - [21] You see, neutralizers are like the new WCS because you can neut off a tackler's disruptor and escape at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Speed setups are like the new WCS because you can outrun ships that are slower than you and escape at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Remote reps are like the new WCS because you can remote rep each other into near invulnerability and dock/jump out to escape at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Passively tanked ships are like the new WCS because you can absorb enough damage to dock/jump out at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Actively tanked ships are like the new WCS because you can tank many ships indefinitely in a 1v1 and dock/jump out at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Gank fitted ships are like the new WCS because you can completely obliterate whatever is tackling you and escape at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Like WCS I predict that all the aspects of Eve listed above will be nerfed into oblivion for the greater balance of Eve. Then whatever's left effective will be nerfed as well to keep it in line.
Raekone	Posted - 2008.01.15 08:52:00 - [22] Originally by: Kadoes Khan Originally by: Raekone I'd condone a nerf of neutralizers. They're one of the modules still left in the game that negate any actual skill or means for a pilot to personally influense the outcome of the battle he/she is in - short of always fitting them himself and hoping for the best. Just like NOS where. In fact if I where in charge, and be very happy I'm not, I'd remove both nos and neuts entirely from the game. The capacitor is what you have to survive - taking it away is like wiping your arse with no hands. Following that train wreck of logic you'd also want to remove Cap Boosters. So you admit to the necessity of cap boosters if you want to get anywhere in this NEUT Online game. Thanks for proving my point
Mephistophilis Cygnus Alpha Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.15 09:49:00 - [23] Edited by: Mephistophilis on 15/01/2008 09:54:51 Edited by: Mephistophilis on 15/01/2008 09:51:09 Oh My lord, i wondered how long it'd be before this started Oh and btw i could prolly make your active tank usless with my astarte, because i spent months training it all to lvl 5 I guess we should nerf that too Hey here is an idea, lets ditch neuts, nos, cap boosters, guns, missiles, lazers, armor tanks, shield tanks and we'll keep going untill there is just one mining ship left (not a hulk though, they are waaaayyy too overpowered) then we can have one big generic slippery hem-roid popping party together for the last night untill eve shuts down through lack of players.... Just a thought
Tacitus Krekt The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2008.01.15 09:56:00 - [24] NEWS FLASH! A target being called primary has little to no capacitor left after multiple ships hit him with energy neuts. It is thus deducted that energy neuts are viable PVP modules. More at elleven!
Grunanca BLACK-FLAG	Posted - 2008.01.15 09:56:00 - [25] Originally by: Sudokhan well i dont know if any one else has feeling on this but do you think that neutralisers are dominating pvp senario's, in 1vs1 situations you can just about cope with them even when your fighting a domi, but during a small gang operations involving bs's neutralisers are the most common thing fitted to ships, when the primary gets attacked with in 5-10sec's his capasitor is at 15% or lower elimanating any oppottunity for fitting an active tank, which is making the only viable setup a armour soak tank that dosnt require cap to run, but wouldnt this lead you to believe that neutralisers are infuencing pvp far too much. Has CCP yet again fixed one problem but in turn made a much bigger problem? There is this very cool module called a capacitor booster. This module enables you to get a huge boost to you cap right before you activate your repair systems. This modules is not only useful, it also counters the whole effect of the neuts. Try to use it.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.15 10:05:00 - [26] Originally by: Addison Caine You see, neutralizers are like the new WCS because you can neut off a tackler's disruptor and escape at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Speed setups are like the new WCS because you can outrun ships that are slower than you and escape at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Remote reps are like the new WCS because you can remote rep each other into near invulnerability and dock/jump out to escape at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Passively tanked ships are like the new WCS because you can absorb enough damage to dock/jump out at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Actively tanked ships are like the new WCS because you can tank many ships indefinitely in a 1v1 and dock/jump out at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Gank fitted ships are like the new WCS because you can completely obliterate whatever is tackling you and escape at your leisure if the battle isn't going your way. Like WCS I predict that all the aspects of Eve listed above will be nerfed into oblivion for the greater balance of Eve. Then whatever's left effective will be nerfed as well to keep it in line. You forgot a few: ECM ships are like the new WCS because you can jam the tacklers and warp away if the battle isn't going your way. Damp ships are like the new WCS because you can damp the tacklers and warp away if the battle isn't going your way. Plated battleships are like the new WCS because you can de-aggress and jump/dock if the battle isn't going your way. Snipers are like the new WCS because you can kill the tacklers before they tackle you and warp off if the battle isn't going your way. MWD snipers are like the new WCS because you can mwd out of bubbles and warp off if the battle isn't going your way.
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.15 10:09:00 - [27] Epic... This thread is fail imho.. Nice hamster! - Mindstar Thanks! We wont touch this sig! - Cortes I lied - Cortes LIAR!
Grytok moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2008.01.15 10:14:00 - [28] lol? Neutralizers, even if Energy Emission systems skilled to LvL 5!, have a very hard effect on your own cap. For a Heavy Unstable Neutralizer you'll need minimum 375 Cap to activate and you wanna tell me that this Module is overpowered? Efficiency is 62.5% at best, and thats with LvL 5! And erm... trying to proove a point by giving a laughable "I'm primaried" example does'nt help either to support this nonsense, because without the Neutralizers you'd still die in 10-15 seconds, if you're primaried by 10-15 hostile battleships. Sure, you would've had Cap left, but where is the difference? Stop crying allready, as the game does not need anymore nerfing atm. If we go on with lightspeed nerfing everything into oblivion, then EvE won't see 2009. . Work in progress: EvE FlashMAP
Taraniis MAFIA	Posted - 2008.01.15 10:36:00 - [29] Originally by: umop 3pisdn Originally by: Le Skunk Its started... SKUNK Please god no. They've only just taken away our nos. Leave us with something you bastards. I love you and want your children. Seriously, hurry up I'm hungry No neuts aren't over powered, if you are 1vs1 in your BS and a nano-HAC comes into view then you will be grateful for that cap munching beastie as a capless HAC is a dead one, or a warping off one at least. If you are in a roaming gang and don't have a logistics ship in the group then you deserve a cap death. Before you whine about the realism of any gang having a logistics ship in it then think again. We are in the age of spider-repping, triage and gang mods. CCP have changed the game to incorporate all types of ship into the modern fleet, people just need to evolve their tactics to suit.
NightmareX Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.15 10:46:00 - [30] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/01/2008 10:48:06 Jeeeez, this topic is an epic failure. LOL this noob probably got killed by a Neut Domi. NEUTS ARE FINE. CCP, fix my forum portrait FFS
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Dark-Rising The Dawn of Darkness	Posted - 2008.01.15 10:54:00 - [31] Originally by: arbalesttom Epic... This thread is fail imho.. QFT ------------------------------------------- [Video]The Inquisition II - Vanguardian
Annowyn Clan'Destine	Posted - 2008.01.15 10:58:00 - [32] Fit cap injector. Inject an instant before your hit your rep. Wow. You know all those ship setups in the ship setup index have them for a reason.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Dark-Rising The Dawn of Darkness	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:00:00 - [33] Originally by: Annowyn Fit cap injector. Inject an instant before your hit your rep. Wow. You know all those ship setups in the ship setup index have them for a reason. No they mainly have them because EVERY pvp ship has to have mwd, full gank, full tank running 24/7 and there is no other way because everyone fits their ship to be a shortlived powerhouse. Nerf cap boosters. ------------------------------------------- [Video]The Inquisition II - Vanguardian
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:14:00 - [34] If neuts are overpowered.. does this make the 8 Large neuts perma running APoc the most overpowered ship in game? ya know Apoc and overpowered in same sentence would create a space time fissure that would destroy all eve! ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
kessah Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:17:00 - [35] ROFL! nah there fine i think, but i dont use them all that often so i dun care if there nerfed.
Cailais Amarr VITOC	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:30:00 - [36] ABOSULUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH NEUTS!!!!! In fact they need a boost! Why on earth would you want to nerf this??? Its one very valuable option vs the nano ships everyone moans about! This is very important: If you nerf module A, you boost module B - everyone then complains about module B, and so it goes on! C. Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Dehumanisation - griefers are cool and if you are not a griefer, you do not belong here.
Jebba IV Captain Morgan Society Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:30:00 - [37] Originally by: Sudokhan well i dont know if any one else has feeling on this but do you think that neutralisers are dominating pvp senario's, in 1vs1 situations you can just about cope with them even when your fighting a domi, but during a small gang operations involving bs's neutralisers are the most common thing fitted to ships, when the primary gets attacked with in 5-10sec's his capasitor is at 15% or lower elimanating any oppottunity for fitting an active tank, which is making the only viable setup a armour soak tank that dosnt require cap to run, but wouldnt this lead you to believe that neutralisers are infuencing pvp far too much. Has CCP yet again fixed one problem but in turn made a much bigger problem? /me KICKS OP IN THE NUTS
Laboratus Gallente BGG Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:48:00 - [38] To the op: By fitting an active tank, you take the risk of capasitor warfare. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it dosnt'. If there was no way of countering active tanking, it would be very overpowered. However, if you want to fit counter counter, try capasitor boosters. Whatever you are being nosd or neuted, you will always have enough cap to run your modules. Until you run out of charges. But then again, an overwhelming majority of fights do not last that long. Large fleet engagements mostly. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
zorgluba Doom Guard	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:57:00 - [39] The only way I would agree that Neuts are too powerfull it's in the balancing between small and big ships. I mean every other system (but ECM) is balanced. You have tracking, explosion velocity, sig radius, speed ... I would agree on a change on neuts toward a % system so a hevy neut does not suck dry a frig in one volley, a bit like the NOS got changed. I pod ... nano
Malcanis 5 finger discounteers	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:58:00 - [40] Originally by: Le Skunk Its started... SKUNK Yeah... Why don't we cut to the chase and just change all ships to the following No fitting slots: Frigates: Attack 1 Defence 1 Move 8 Cruisers : Attack 2 Defence 2 Move 4 Battlecruisers: Attack 2 Defence 3 Move 3 Batteships: Attack 4 Defence 4 Move 2 Caldari, Minmatar, Amarr and Gallante ships all have the same stats but come in different colours. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.01.15 12:12:00 - [41] Edited by: Grimpak on 15/01/2008 12:12:49 Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: Le Skunk Its started... SKUNK I'm going to laugh if nanos get nerfed, and everybody starts whining about remote reps. predictions for the whiners nerf line indicate that after speed is nerfed into oblivion, ECM and remote repping are next, so that we may end with gank/tank battleship fights, zero strategy fighting, and everything below CBC becomes useless for pvp. /facepalm --- planetary interaction idea!
Alowishus Pastry Coalition Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.15 12:28:00 - [42] Here is the life cycle of a whine: 1. Someone loses a ship and won't accept responsibility for it 2. They figure out that a major determining factor in their loss was [insert ship/module/tactic] 3. They realize that they cannot counter the [insert ship/module/tactic] with any of the cookie cutter setups they copied off the forums 4. They come to the forums to cry 5. They say things like, "you/I can't", "this always happens," "it's impossible," in order to make their failure seem more universal 6. They balk at any suggested ways to counter the [insert ship/module/tactic] 7. They whine more I wish these people would f-off and die. Seriously. /makes fart noise
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.01.15 12:32:00 - [43] Originally by: Alowishus Here is the life cycle of a whine: 1. Someone loses a ship and won't accept responsibility for it 2. They figure out that a major determining factor in their loss was [insert ship/module/tactic] 3. They realize that they cannot counter the [insert ship/module/tactic] with any of the cookie cutter setups they copied off the forums 4. They come to the forums to cry 5. They say things like, "you/I can't", "this always happens," "it's impossible," in order to make their failure seem more universal 6. They balk at any suggested ways to counter the [insert ship/module/tactic] 7. They whine more I wish these people would f-off and die. Seriously. this always happens. *again.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Under Heavy Fire	Posted - 2008.01.15 12:52:00 - [44] Originally by: Jebba IV /me KICKS OP IN THE NUTS Kick him in the neuts? Originally by: GM Tacgnol Oveur descended from the heavens (also known as the second floor) and beat us all with his nerfbat.
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.15 12:58:00 - [45] Neuts are amoung the best-balanced mods in the game. NOS since the balance has joined that list. Cap warfare remains valid tactics if you know what you are doing (or attacking). "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
Parfait M Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.15 12:59:00 - [46] Is this thread for real? ------- Drink apple juice; OJ will KILL YOU!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.15 13:00:00 - [47] when you are called primary the last thing to worry about is neuts you are going boom no matter what, well maybe not if you have lots of remote reps, but who cares about the neuts then anyways.
Laboratus Gallente BGG Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.01.15 13:08:00 - [48] Originally by: Alowishus Here is the life cycle of a whine: 1. Someone loses a ship and won't accept responsibility for it 2. They figure out that a major determining factor in their loss was [insert ship/module/tactic] 3. They realize that they cannot counter the [insert ship/module/tactic] with any of the cookie cutter setups they copied off the forums 4. They come to the forums to cry 5. They say things like, "you/I can't", "this always happens," "it's impossible," in order to make their failure seem more universal 6. They balk at any suggested ways to counter the [insert ship/module/tactic] 7. They whine more I wish these people would f-off and die. Seriously. So true ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Twin blade Minmatar The Triangle Exa Nation	Posted - 2008.01.15 13:18:00 - [49] Edited by: Twin blade on 15/01/2008 13:19:41 Meh neut's are only overpowerd if your trying to take a Mega cap heavy ship vs any battleship loaded with a neut or two and then its your own failt you left such a large weakness in your set up. If you set up right you can avoid a neut destroying you booster's will most likey out last most fight's 1v1 and gangs well if they all lock you bang dead any way with or with out cap. But to feel this silly post a Titan with 8 Large3 Neut's are WTF overpowerd massive cap allowing it to neut any other ship/whole fleet to hell. Death is great rember where all dying to get there.
L70Rogue	Posted - 2008.01.15 13:20:00 - [50] soo true, a tier 1 ship like a domi can drain and *****a raven (tier 2) very quickly it's not even funny. maybe neuts should be looked at...
NightmareX Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.15 13:23:00 - [51] Originally by: L70Rogue soo true, a tier 1 ship like a domi can drain and *****a raven (tier 2) very quickly it's not even funny. maybe neuts should be looked at... Go back to WoW where you belong. Neuts doesn't need to be looked at. CCP, fix my forum portrait FFS
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.01.15 13:28:00 - [52] Originally by: L70Rogue soo true, a tier 1 ship like a domi can drain and *****a raven (tier 2) very quickly it's not even funny. maybe neuts should be looked at... for what cost? yes, a bunchload of cap charges just to have the neuts running. nevermind the fact that the raven will STILL be shooting at you even with zero cap. --- planetary interaction idea!
Rastigan Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.15 13:40:00 - [53] Time till Johnny JoJo turns this into a buff Amarr thread......................
Matrixcvd Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.15 13:48:00 - [54] These have to be troll threads.... These OPs can't be serious right? FFS, its just down right comical. Instead of limiting posting on the forums to main's on paid accounts, lets limit the forums to anyone playing over 4 months or so. I can't take this kind of garbage anymore. I know its just internet spaceships but this game is a little bit more indepth than wing commander and WoW. GBTWOW NOOBLETS! So many other funny posts responding to the OP to QFT but, yeah, NEUTS MY GOD NEUTS SO OVERPOWERED!!!!! OHHH NOOOSSSS!!!!!. I am making up "Quit Eve, You Suck" T-Shirts and for all OP's out their that just lost your ships and need a good shoulder to cry on, before you whine, get some of these for you and your friends go to www.stopwhining&learnhowtopvpyounoob.com for your free T-Shirt.
L70Rogue	Posted - 2008.01.15 13:50:00 - [55] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: L70Rogue soo true, a tier 1 ship like a domi can drain and *****a raven (tier 2) very quickly it's not even funny. maybe neuts should be looked at... for what cost? yes, a bunchload of cap charges just to have the neuts running. nevermind the fact that the raven will STILL be shooting at you even with zero cap. So would the domi with it's drones.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.01.15 14:00:00 - [56] Counter the neut with NOS - and get some cap back ya pansy. Use cap boosters you complete idiot. BS neuts are THE way to counter nano ships with out training Minmitar HACs. If you're in a gang use tactics besides just overwhelming dps. Did you know that neuts require a lock? If only there was a ship - or even a MOD that would break locks... __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Jebba IV Captain Morgan Society Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.15 14:15:00 - [57] Originally by: L70Rogue soo true, a tier 1 ship like a domi can drain and *****a raven (tier 2) very quickly it's not even funny. maybe neuts should be looked at... Use your main, and maybe the raven should have shot its drones instead of coming to the forum to whine after dieing due to incompetency. Ravens can fit Neuts as well.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.01.15 15:01:00 - [58] Originally by: L70Rogue Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: L70Rogue soo true, a tier 1 ship like a domi can drain and *****a raven (tier 2) very quickly it's not even funny. maybe neuts should be looked at... for what cost? yes, a bunchload of cap charges just to have the neuts running. nevermind the fact that the raven will STILL be shooting at you even with zero cap. So would the domi with it's drones. but you can shoot his drones, can't you? --- planetary interaction idea!
Andreask14 Alterum - Infinitus - Fabula Dragons Of Oceans	Posted - 2008.01.15 15:06:00 - [59] You COULD defender the missiles.
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2008.01.15 15:24:00 - [60] Fail thread is fail. Neuts are perfectly fine. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Hannobaal Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.15 16:02:00 - [61] People will never stop saying stuff is overpowered. It's one thing after the other, after the other... Because it is so much easier to do that than to actually think and figure out ways to fight something. People hate having to think.
Maverick 52	Posted - 2008.01.15 21:10:00 - [62] Originally by: Andreask14 You COULD defender the missiles. /me tries to fit missiles on his Domi... DOH!

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