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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2011.09.06 23:37:00 -
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Facts incarna was a failure for the most part, many are angry, others dont care CQ is laggy, unresponsive, and for many unusable.
"loading station enviorment off" is ok, but we still lost -functional hanger - good looking hanger instead of door - a hanger that people used and loved, that also conformed to eve lore
solution has been said before and i will say it again when u dock u in told function hanger, you press a button on the left to enter CQ and walking in stations.
i ask people to keep this to the top.
yes many other issues are incarna, but the NEX store unfortunatly won't go anywhere and bugs (hopefully) are being worked on quickly. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
34
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Posted - 2011.09.06 23:58:00 -
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If they want to make Incarna the default Eve station environment that's fine.
Always give us the option to disable loading station environments. I want CCP to promise to never, ever force me to load a new environment every time I dock. When I'm collecting random crap from all over the region, waiting for CQ to load just so that I can drag something to my hold and undock again wastes my time.
Bring back the hangar view. Start with a "view ship in hangar" that gives us all the beloved ship spinning back. I pay to play internet spaceships, not internet Sims. Let me see my spaceship. Once they see how many people LOVE getting their hangars back, give us the OPTION to default to hangar view. That way people who don't want CQ can get their old station view back but CCP can still say Incarna is well-used by those who don't care or don't know to change the view. |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:17:00 -
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if he load station enviorment button was turned to "use old station Hanger" i would be just as happy.. |

Talia Nachtigall
Hidden Souls
5
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:19:00 -
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They'll bring back ship spinning in "some form" at "some point in the future". I want my older hanger back. Don't pray for my soul. ;) |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2011.09.07 04:02:00 -
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dont fix what isnt broken, i dont think i have ever heard a complaint about the old hanger...
chances are they will let u spin ur docked ship in the cq but cq is too laggy to be worth turning on... old hanger plox |

Yvan Ratamnim
Phoenix Evolved Part Duo
12
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Posted - 2011.09.07 04:10:00 -
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Talia Nachtigall wrote:They'll bring back ship spinning in "some form" at "some point in the future". I want my older hanger back.
personally i'd like to see CSM just push CCP to define those "somes" sooner rather than later |

AnzacPaul
Perkone Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2011.09.07 04:30:00 -
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Supporting Herping CCP's Derp till this is dealt with!!!!!! |

Mr Goldfish
Angels on Drugs
0
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Posted - 2011.09.07 09:43:00 -
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Give us back our old hangar! I am an old dog from 2003 who cant live without it damnit! |

Eperor
Skyforger Tactical Narcotics Team
2
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Posted - 2011.09.07 11:27:00 -
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i to wish my old hangar back this new oen its buclit niot hangar itsn ot usful for real eve player, hoo ned jsut dock grab somting or fast change ship an undock again, soem time that mader on seconds not minets. |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2011.09.07 21:16:00 -
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typing in the dark??? lol
anyways keep this to the top guys, i know assembly hall is a pretty dead forum sometimes but can't let the important stuff get lost. |

Tyrhineld Malukker
Krannon of Sherwood Carthage Empires
0
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Posted - 2011.09.08 04:23:00 -
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Agreed. New player <------ but even so I Still miss the old hanger. Bring it back folks!
+1 |

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
4
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Posted - 2011.09.08 16:18:00 -
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1. Dock in old hangar ---> Button to decant from POD and enter station.
2. Checkbox in Options to enter station on docking.
Simple, and would make EVERY PLAYER happy! 
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |

Laechyd Eldgorn
draketrain
1
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Posted - 2011.09.08 17:56:00 -
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i want to buy a different door with my AUR |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2011.09.09 15:38:00 -
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hell i'd spend my 1,000 aur to be allowed to use old ship hanger |

Scrap Dogg
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.09.10 03:29:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I pay to play internet spaceships, not internet Sims. I like CQ i think its a creative alternative to space ships, but it should not be the default, nobody playing should have to wait while the laggy, practicly useless room is loaded, i want to see the ships i spend so much isk and time to get and admire my accomplishment.
Push a button -> leave your ship and go into CQ, thats how it should be. Punch it! |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2011.09.10 16:40:00 -
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Scrap Dogg wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I pay to play internet spaceships, not internet Sims. I like CQ i think its a creative alternative to space ships, but it should not be the default, nobody playing should have to wait while the laggy, practicly useless room is loaded, i want to see the ships i spend so much isk and time to get and admire my accomplishment. Push a button -> leave your ship and go into CQ, thats how it should be.
this, i would use CQ if it wasnt forced. |

Valend
Sanford and Son Salvage Peregrine Nation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.12 03:28:00 -
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They REALLY need to add the old hangar back into the game. The door is lifeless and no fun. The hangar at least preserved some sense of immersion, created an ambience that wasn't as lifeless, was more convenient in terms of viewing your active ship and giving you another way to access cargo and drone bays, and was something I'd gotten used to and comfortable with over the years.
I've made a few attempts recently at coming back from hiatus, because EVE is definitely a game I've enjoyed in the past. But logging in and having the option of viewing "The Door" or a feature I find meaningless and cumbersome in its current state just isn't encouraging in terms of the direction the game is going.
Please give me back my sanity. |

Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
0
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Posted - 2011.09.12 05:53:00 -
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Bring back my Hanger plz and thx u :)
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
2
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Posted - 2011.09.12 08:01:00 -
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I think Incarna was a success in what they set out to achieve based on player demand.
I also think it was a failure in the war on lag as the new software has placed tremendous demand on graphics cards and bandwidth.
I understand the psychological brain numbing practice of ship spinning in the old hangar, but it is a silly thing to get annoyed about. I believe I read somewhere that they will bring it back as an option for those who wish to spin their ships still. Thing is, regardless of the hangar, if you're in station you are not very active in the game of EVE in PvP, PVE, Industry or Exploration.
Even when I am sitting in hangar performing corp duties, I dont have time to spin ships or watch the TV in the CQ, let alone roam the station. So, the hangar situation for me isnt a big issue beyond the new world of lag it has created.
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |

Zanziba'ar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
1
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Posted - 2011.09.12 10:14:00 -
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CQ is AMAAAAAZZZIINGGG you propably just dont have the PC to run it yet. instead of spinning ships i pace up and down. Its great, time of my life |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2011.09.12 19:03:00 -
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the failure is its too hardware intensive for what it gives you... if they had the old hanger and a button to enter CQ it would be optional so the people who don't want to see it won't have to, but currently the people who don't want to see it get a picture of a door and lose many functions the old hanger had.
even if i could run CQ at 60FPS on max settings safely on my pc i wouldnt. its like running crysis on max settings minus the good looking game just for docking..... |

Valend
Sanford and Son Salvage Peregrine Nation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.12 22:07:00 -
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Amun Khonsu wrote: I understand the psychological brain numbing practice of ship spinning in the old hangar, but it is a silly thing to get annoyed about. I believe I read somewhere that they will bring it back as an option for those who wish to spin their ships still. Thing is, regardless of the hangar, if you're in station you are not very active in the game of EVE in PvP, PVE, Industry or Exploration.
I don't think it's a silly thing to get annoyed about at all. It's not about being able to spin your ships so much as it is every other benefit to the game it provides. Like it or not, sometimes some of us have to spend a decent amount of time in stations, and I didn't appreciate having something stripped away that was both more convenient and easier on the load times than WiS and less lifeless and annoying than "The Door". |

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
32
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Posted - 2011.09.13 00:22:00 -
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I support this.
Now where is the 'support' box for me to check? I mean I know I can 'like', but 'likes' serve a completely different purpose, and this forum section needs the 'support' function implemented, like on the old forums.
Does this look like a pattern to anyone? Losing functionality? I know some may consider this a silly thing to complain about. However when this is coupled with the total fu-üking abortion that is this entire forum, it starts to really wear on you. |

TheExtruder
Malicious Destruction
4
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Posted - 2011.09.13 00:50:00 -
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Razin wrote:I support this.
Now where is the 'support' box for me to check? I mean I know I can 'like', but 'likes' serve a completely different purpose, and this forum section needs the 'support' function implemented, like on the old forums.
Does this look like a pattern to anyone? Losing functionality? I know some may consider this a silly thing to complain about. However when this is coupled with the total fu-üking abortion that is this entire forum, it starts to really wear on you.
Its fine the way it is now, we'll have to get used to the new way I guess.
I support this thread too,
there needs to be a 'quicker' version of the hanger, because it takes ages to load the current station environments. |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2011.09.13 03:22:00 -
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something fun i used to do was buy 1 ship of each class i could fly, starting with my pod i would jump into a shuttle, some frigs, then a cruiser, then a BC then BS and then a freighter.... it was fast fun and i would look in detail at the ship i was about to fly. it was fun and something simple to do to see how far i came.. |

thoth rothschild
Method of Destruction Snatch Victory
0
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Posted - 2011.09.13 07:04:00 -
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CQ is oudated graphics with to much load on Memory & CPU. Movement is a pain. Interaction is not smart.
I like to get my fast loading interface called hangar back. fast interaction with menus. Self explanationary, easy to use with a nice gimmig called ship spinning.
If you want to sell us space pilkots items in a nex store, ship skins and writings on my torps would be more aporpriate than clothes :p |

Valend
Sanford and Son Salvage Peregrine Nation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.13 07:56:00 -
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I read the thread on the old forums the other day, and I think most of its points were spot on.
How much sense does it make that our characters take the time to get out of their ships every time when all they want to do is change ammo?
I understand they probably feel they worked really hard on WiS, and are really proud of it or whatever, but it's not a feature I want forced upon me. When they eventually give it some kind of real meaning, I'd prefer to use it when I choose to... but we're not even at that stage yet. |

Javajunky
Viscosity Controlled Chaos
0
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Posted - 2011.09.13 10:44:00 -
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+1 for bringing back old hangar / supported.
-10 yet again for CCP for not displaying prominently the "Vote Button" in this forum subsection. |

RedXVI
UnReadable
0
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Posted - 2011.09.13 11:49:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:if he load station enviorment button was turned to "use old station Hanger" i would be just as happy.. +1 |

Shingorash
No.Mercy Merciless.
1
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Posted - 2011.09.13 12:09:00 -
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Would be nice if I knew what ship I was in as well. When I login I sometimes forget what I was flying.
Undocking in hostile 0.0 in the wrong ship can be a problem..
I want my spinning ship back gdi! |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2011.09.14 14:44:00 -
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tell your friends mail your alliance tell them to vote on all accounts
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Valend
Sanford and Son Salvage Peregrine Nation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.14 21:01:00 -
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I really don't see what the downside to giving us back our ship hangars is, except for the aforementioned CCP fearing no one would use WiS anymore, and something about them wanting to create a uniform and seamless experience... which doesn't make any sense to me because it's anything but.
Give us a button to enter/exit our ship, and have a check box in the settings menu to enable or disable automatically entering the CQ upon docking. Pretty please? |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2011.09.15 00:40:00 -
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CCP just being babies to be honest. like eve gate which no one used. CCP likes thinking people use their features now we have to use eve gate to use forums.
the thing is people would like CQ more if it was option. i know i would use it if all it took was a button to start watching my TV |

Jack' Sparrow
J0urneys End Journeys End Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.09.15 10:20:00 -
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I support this 100%.
Like many other people have said, it would be logical to have the old station view back and the option to enter the CQ.
If Eve was a reality in the real world, when you docked you wouldn't suddenly end up in the CQ, you would be in your ship still until you decided to leave to the CQ.
So overall, bring back old station view with option and make it what it should be.
+1
Thanks.
PS: Would be nice to hear back from CCP or CSM regarding this. Many topics and posts yet not response  |

Kaelie Onren
Pyrrhus Industries
2
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Posted - 2011.09.15 11:18:00 -
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no one bothers to answer you because the bringing back of spinning is already in the works. Google the old threads. |

Valend
Sanford and Son Salvage Peregrine Nation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.15 18:53:00 -
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I did already dig through the old forums. The only thing I remember seeing was one or two people thinking CCP was bringing it back at some point in the future / "eventually". Not particularly conclusive, nor something I feel should be on the back burner.
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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2011.09.15 23:07:00 -
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Kaelie Onren wrote:no one bothers to answer you because the bringing back of spinning is already in the works. Google the old threads.
yea like they will expand faction warfare right 
don't forget that we already had the perfect interface, in fact hackers used python injections to get the old hanger back... so there is no technical reason for it to not be back already. |

Dyvim Slorm
Masonic Templar Warfare Industries
0
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Posted - 2011.09.17 13:58:00 -
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Fully supported.
Perhaps when CCP make WIS useful I'll think differently, but at present it's just a proceesing hog for rather mediocre graphics. |

Kaelie Onren
Pyrrhus Industries
2
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Posted - 2011.09.17 16:18:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:Kaelie Onren wrote:no one bothers to answer you because the bringing back of spinning is already in the works. Google the old threads. yea like they will expand faction warfare right  don't forget that we already had the perfect interface, in fact hackers used python injections to get the old hanger back... so there is no technical reason for it to not be back already.
No reason? I would say the reason is that they have a forced beta testing of wis technology. And the aurum market. You have already made your concerns heard. When wis comes out I have confidence that they will have the 'decant' option or spin. People continually asking for a reversion ain't going to make it happen. If you want the spin back then get one of the hacks that you mentioned. I'd like it back too. But I can see how ccp would see this as a step backward. |

Cyprus Black
PILGRIMS Insane Asylum
26
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Posted - 2011.09.17 16:51:00 -
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Yes, bring the old hanger back.
I don't like the old hanger, but it's infinitely better than CQ. CQ was interesting for about 5 minutes but quickly turned annoying and cumbersome. The old hanger wasn't pretty but it also didn't cause problems playing the game.
Out with CQ. In with Old Hanger. |

Kaelie Onren
Pyrrhus Industries
2
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Posted - 2011.09.19 23:34:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp
In case that link changes, it's the one where they are bringing back spinning. Just as all veterans of assembly hall already knew.
I think when we moved over to these eve gate forums we got a whole fresh batch of forum newbies who were unaware.
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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
72
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Posted - 2011.09.20 15:05:00 -
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uh no, they never said they were bringing old station hanger back ( as we wanted) until a day or 2 ago, this thread was made the day the new forums opened. |

Kaelie Onren
Pyrrhus Industries
2
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Posted - 2011.09.21 15:57:00 -
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Uh, so I guess you have been living under a rock, are a forum newbie, can't be bothered to google it, or can't be bothered to read the old threads that I referred to.
No they didn't give an exact DAY, CCP has learned their hard lessons in promising features with exact timelines but they have said that they were going to bring it back since the CSM meeting in June. I believe the mittani may have mentioned it in the post meeting interview, a lot was under NDA so exact timelines were only educated guesses. But enough rumours of winter release was mentioned way before these new forums, and your thread started us back at square 1 on this topic. Thankfully, CCP looks to be on schedule with this release. |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2011.09.22 15:53:00 -
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wow you are immature, i never heard of you yet you claim i'm a forum newbie, before this post, all CCP claimed was in some way or another that you would be able to spin ships again "soon"
and until their promised old hanger comes back this should stay open, please learn to look at post dates before posting. it would make you not look like and ass. |
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