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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3582
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:00:00 -
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This is me. I like pretty girls and puppies. Punkturis is all right, too.
Last year, I vowed that I would transform the CSM from a powerless council wracked by ignorance and infighting into a powerful tool of player advocacy. At the time, this was seen as a bold - if not impossible - claim; the CSM had been essentially useless over the years, save for getting a skill queue added. Each election cycle, candidates would promise the moon and stars, and none delivered.
But I did.
You are probably here in Jita Park for the first time, because you probably never cared about the CSM until CSM6; previously the CSM was trivial at best and actively harmful when at its worst. Yet under my guidance, CSM6 got things done. We have more influence with the line developers who actually make Eve Online than any other CSM, because of the 24/7 shared Skype channel that I created. When CCPGÇÖs management drank the Incarna Kool-Aid, we went to Iceland and turned the tide against GÇÿvirtual goodsGÇÖ. CSM6 held firm in the face of attempts by CCPGÇÖs management to distort our message; when management tried to spin the minutes of the Emergency Summit - re-labeling it the GÇÿSpecial SummitGÇÖ and filling the draft with corporate weasel-words - I refused to be played, and launched a searing media offensive that forced them to back down.
The Crucible expansion reads like a laundry list of things that CSM6 fought for - an emphasis on iterative ship balance, Time Dilation, hybrid and Gallente fixes, supercap nerfs, and assault frigates.
Before I took over, the common refrain was that the CSM had no power. Now they whine that the CSM has too much power.
YouGÇÖre welcome.
This year, I am again running for the Chairmanship. The title has tremendous value, even though it officially has no power at all - a concept which you will immediately understand if you have any political intelligence. Last year, I received more votes than any other candidate in the entire history of the CSM. This year, I want more than that - I want a mandate.
But I donGÇÖt want just any vote. Too many candidates this year are offering milquetoast, dumbed-down platforms. They support good things and disapprove of bad things. Me? I have balls, and I have enemies. IGÇÖm not afraid to name them.
- If you think that virtual pants are more important than spaceships, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that wardecs and PvP should be consensual, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that T2 BPO lottery was a good idea, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that EVE should be made GÇÿsafeGÇÖ from scamming and griefing, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that suicide ganking should be banned, I donGÇÖt want your vote. In fact, tell me where you hang out, so I can drop a Brutix on you.
- If GÇ£warGÇ¥, GÇ£murderGÇ¥ and GÇ£conquestGÇ¥ are naughty words that scare you, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
The CSM is not about spreadsheets. The CSM is about persuasion, deal-cutting, and political nuance. It is not a job for a saint, someone on the autism spectrum, or someone who doesnGÇÖt understand why a quiet word in a devGÇÖs ear after a night out drinking is more effective than days of formalized conferences. If you want to get things done, you must be able to read body language, understand how CCP itself works as a business, and determine who the most influential people at the company are. Over the last year IGÇÖve repeatedly proven that I have what it takes to lead, where so many others have failed before.
I listen to my voters; I respond to their evemails, I care about what they think. If you vote for me, you matter to me, and IGÇÖll do what I can to make the game better for you.
Become a constituent. Vote Mittani. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3582
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:01:00 -
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obligatory reserved post The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
285
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:03:00 -
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first Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Meltmind2
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:07:00 -
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~my ceo~ |

esc shk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:07:00 -
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Punkturis is Hot |

Molesty Smurf
Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:08:00 -
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gogo Mittani |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
422
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:08:00 -
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my ceo |

Zadus Rejan
Kernel of War Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:08:00 -
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The CEO! |

Faith Marr
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:08:00 -
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just make it so i can switch characters without having to log in again and i will bring you 100 votes ok |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
422
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:08:00 -
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my chairman |
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Spooky Blossom
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:09:00 -
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:09:00 -
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MY CEO This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |

HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:09:00 -
[13] - Quote
100 likes reached in 9 minutes.
lawl |

Valearx
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:09:00 -
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my ceo |

Crasniya
Legio Geminatus Gentlemen's Agreement
81
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:09:00 -
[15] - Quote
I'll vote for Space King Mittens. |

Donau
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:09:00 -
[16] - Quote
My Chairman My Vote |

Puristaako
Monkey Attack Squad Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:09:00 -
[17] - Quote
"I have balls, and I have enemies. IGÇÖm not afraid to name them" Names of balls? :) +1 "my lord" |

Natalie Cerulean
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
18
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:09:00 -
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If for no other reason I think you have a sexy voice. |

Dilligaf Jack
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:10:00 -
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:Smuggo: |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
422
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:11:00 -
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my king of space :allears: |
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Jiggly Jones
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:11:00 -
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Ground floor in an amazing thread.
edit: ****, I missed a snipe. |

Karadion
394
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:12:00 -
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There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. |

Brooson
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:12:00 -
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Mittani is my voice on the CSM. |

tewkz
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
10
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:12:00 -
[24] - Quote
If you care about space you vote for king mittens. |

Meno Theaetetus
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:13:00 -
[25] - Quote
The last few patches have brought more improvement to EVE than all those before it combined for as long as I can remember, In the last term we have seen CCP move its focus back onto FIS and the benefits have been marked and tangible.
I would really hate to see us slip back into the past of the neutered CSM and neglected EVE, Mittani for re-elect and the continued improvement of EVE. |

Omen Ahr
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:13:00 -
[26] - Quote
+like it. My CEO is even cute. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
285
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:13:00 -
[27] - Quote
A CEO and a promise of future unicorns, thread delivers Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Max Mastadon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:13:00 -
[28] - Quote
Puristaako wrote:"I have balls, and I have enemies. IGÇÖm not afraid to name them" Names of balls? :) +1
Lefty and righty. |

RogueAnt
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:13:00 -
[29] - Quote
+1 |

Silver Persephone
Goonswarm Protective Services
4
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:14:00 -
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Thanks for leading the most effective CSM since the CSM program started. |
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Jathan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:15:00 -
[31] - Quote
My CEO :allears:
All hail Space King Mittens. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:15:00 -
[32] - Quote
Mittani and CSM6, the best thing that has happened to the game in years.
Even if you don't agree with Goons, even if you hate PVP, even if you think that EVE would be a better place tomorrow if every Goon logged off and went off to play Pedophilia (TERA) Online for the rest of time...
No one, absolutely no one, can deny that Mittani has been good for the game. Has been a driving force behind saving CCP (and EVE) from themselves.
But the work is not done yet, is it?
Vote Mittani. CSM7 needs a leader that will continue to help guide the game towards a bigger and brighter future. |

Ting Mei
Pulsar Inc. Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:15:00 -
[33] - Quote
Keep going on good work bro' ! |

Wirbin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:15:00 -
[34] - Quote
my ceo
my king of space |

Xymethian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:16:00 -
[35] - Quote
If you care about internet spaceship content you vote The Mittani. If you care about space pants for your toonies then vote for the other guys. |

Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:17:00 -
[36] - Quote
Mein F++hrer. |

Rydis
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:18:00 -
[37] - Quote
Oh yeeeeeeeah |

Darkside543
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:18:00 -
[38] - Quote
My CEO, also loogit that dog, you gonna say no to that dog? Have you no soul? |

Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:20:00 -
[39] - Quote
200 exhumers will see death in honoUr of your election campaign! |

Reduvius
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:22:00 -
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I like puppies. |
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Arkon Hjallian
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:23:00 -
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You have all my votes |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:24:00 -
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All glory to The Mittani |

Adriana Carillo
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:24:00 -
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~the king of space~ |

Frederick Phelps
Shitty Gimmick Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:26:00 -
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I'll only vote Mittani if he shaves, gets a decent haircut, and starts some properly fitted pants |

Heimdallofasgard
Blazing Celts
70
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:27:00 -
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I'm convinced!
Do you currently have a shortlist of issues you're hoping to tackle provided you are elected? |

Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1191
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:27:00 -
[46] - Quote
If I had a vote for every time Mittens posted the pic of him and Punkturis on the internet......none of y'all would stand a chance.  |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1525
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:28:00 -
[47] - Quote
The Eternal Reign of Chairman Mittani continues. All hail the King of Space The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Rex Augustus
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:28:00 -
[48] - Quote
Mittens for Grand Chancellor!!
oh. wait. wrong game...
Seriously - CSM6 brought more -positive- change to the game in it's short time than it has seen in the last 3 years. Keep the momentum going, keep CSM6 in office as CSM7, and keep seeing EVE return to its roots - FIS. |

Major Spag
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
87
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:35:00 -
[49] - Quote
He, whose soft sultry voice permeates my lobes and caresses my undulating humors, will receive my vote. I encourage everyone to do the same. |

Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1191
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:36:00 -
[50] - Quote
Frederick Phelps wrote:I'll only vote Mittani if he shaves, gets a decent haircut, and starts some properly fitted pants
I think you're confusing him for CCP Soundwave. |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1525
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:41:00 -
[51] - Quote
Somebody get that prencleeve guy to do a campaign video for Mittens. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Heimdallofasgard
Blazing Celts
70
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:44:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Somebody get that prencleeve guy to do a campaign video for Mittens.
Campaign videos could only be a good thing.
In this style as well:
linkage
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Sarmatiko
505
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:44:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/9DfuQ.jpg |

Robbie Circus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:47:00 -
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MY CEO! |

Groperson
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:49:00 -
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Ask about his sabre/ puppy/ house, just do it. |

Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
562
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:56:00 -
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The one they fear
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |

Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 23:57:00 -
[57] - Quote
Ask if his puppy feels like chicken tonight (chicken tonight, chicken tonight...) This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |

Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:57:00 -
[58] - Quote
Eve is multi-player spreadsheets for spergs like me.
But this is a Mittani I can believe in. |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
229
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:57:00 -
[59] - Quote
I want all your mandates you big dirty chairman |

Whiskey Juvenile
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:05:00 -
[60] - Quote
This is a CSM I'd like to get behind!
Can you have my vote if I like spaceships first, then spacepants second? |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9372
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:07:00 -
[61] - Quote
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Heimdallofasgard
Blazing Celts
80
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:10:00 -
[62] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.
Hey Lyris? shouldn't the forum peeps be voting for you and your massive amount of spacelikes? |

Implying Implications
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
18
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:14:00 -
[63] - Quote
you seem quite good |

mookkc
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:15:00 -
[64] - Quote
This is my first post in eve-o. Vote for this man. Trust me. |

Karadion
403
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:16:00 -
[65] - Quote
This thread has more likes than the other candidates.. |

Heimdallofasgard
Blazing Celts
80
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:16:00 -
[66] - Quote
mookkc wrote:This is my first post in eve-o. Vote for this man. Trust me.
And your first like...
Enjoy! |

Gloomy Gus
GoonWaffe
138
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:20:00 -
[67] - Quote
Oh captain, my captain!
*stands on desk* Sincerely, Gloomy Gus, Spaceship Pilot.
This post has been signed and sealed by Gloomy Gus, poster on an internet space ship forum entitled EVE: Gate. All Rights Reserved. |

Osabojo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
94
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:25:00 -
[68] - Quote
My liege! |

Czechlion1977
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:25:00 -
[69] - Quote
I vote for the king of space. |

Sundarbolt
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:32:00 -
[70] - Quote
Name all the balls!!!
My chairman too, not just for goons |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9380
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:33:00 -
[71] - Quote
Heimdallofasgard wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. Hey Lyris? shouldn't the forum peeps be voting for you and your massive amount of spacelikes? Yes, everyone should vote for me. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

ShipToaster
138
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:02:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:But I donGÇÖt want just any vote. Too many candidates this year are offering milquetoast, dumbed-down platforms. They support good things and disapprove of bad things. Me? I have balls, and I have enemies. IGÇÖm not afraid to name them.
- If you think that virtual pants are more important than spaceships, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that wardecs and PvP should be consensual, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that T2 BPO lottery was a good idea, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that EVE should be made GÇÿsafeGÇÖ from scamming and griefing, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that suicide ganking should be banned, I donGÇÖt want your vote. In fact, tell me where you hang out, so I can drop a Brutix on you.
- If GÇ£warGÇ¥, GÇ£murderGÇ¥ and GÇ£conquestGÇ¥ are naughty words that scare you, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
CSM? If you were running ccp we would be in safe hands. Why wont this ******* signature die?
It wont clear. Another bug. How many bugs are in this ******* forum? |

Win Sui
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:05:00 -
[73] - Quote
All my fives. |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
275
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:05:00 -
[74] - Quote
GREAT ZOMBIE JESUS!
Do you have any idea how much of a hipster dirtbag you are? Seriously take a good hard look at the images you linked of yourself. Just take one freaking moment and put down the PBR and really take a look.
You have done NOTHING for the CSM and NOTHING for the EvE playing base.
I am at Cause with you Mittani! I am coming for your job!
Vote Hope Vote Strange Vote Xenuria! Xenuria for CSM |

Alexis Zyl
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:08:00 -
[75] - Quote
A vote for Mittani is a vote for the continued survival of EVE Online: A Game That Sometimes Gets A Little Better |

Win Sui
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:09:00 -
[76] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:GREAT ZOMBIE JESUS!
Do you have any idea how much of a hipster dirtbag you are? Seriously take a good hard look at the images you linked of yourself. Just take one freaking moment and put down the PBR and really take a look.
You have done NOTHING for the CSM and NOTHING for the EvE playing base.
I am at Cause with you Mittani! I am coming for your job!
Vote Hope Vote Strange Vote Xenuria!
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. |

Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:12:00 -
[77] - Quote
There's really no reason not to vote for Mittens Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460 |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1519
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:12:00 -
[78] - Quote
I see it didn't take Xenuria long to get kicked from NA. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
275
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:12:00 -
[79] - Quote
Win Sui wrote:Xenuria wrote:GREAT ZOMBIE JESUS!
Do you have any idea how much of a hipster dirtbag you are? Seriously take a good hard look at the images you linked of yourself. Just take one freaking moment and put down the PBR and really take a look.
You have done NOTHING for the CSM and NOTHING for the EvE playing base.
I am at Cause with you Mittani! I am coming for your job!
Vote Hope Vote Strange Vote Xenuria! There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.
You are so blind. I would bring people top hats and mini skirts. What has mittani done so far? Other then cost us incarna as it was meant to be? Xenuria for CSM |

Xayder
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:13:00 -
[80] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:
If you think that EVE should be made GÇÿsafeGÇÖ from scamming and griefing, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
You, sir Have my vote |
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:16:00 -
[81] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:You are so blind. I would bring people top hats and mini skirts. See, that's your problem. Those are sooooooooooooooo last season.
This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:20:00 -
[82] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:If GÇ£warGÇ¥, GÇ£murderGÇ¥ and GÇ£conquestGÇ¥ are naughty words that scare you, I donGÇÖt want your vote.[/list]
What if they're really exciting ~~ |

Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:25:00 -
[83] - Quote
Then he doesn't just want your vote, he wants your body.  This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |

Li Malak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:28:00 -
[84] - Quote
I like this Topic! Also every Goon post in the first 5 pages. Am I doing this right?
Vote Mittens if you are not a worthless sack of excrement. Also vote Mittens if you ARE a worthless sack of excrement. Then kill yourself. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
348
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:34:00 -
[85] - Quote
you have my sword
(to drive into the heart of npc corps ban npc corps) |

Venus Vermillion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
384
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:48:00 -
[86] - Quote
My Chairman, my CEO, my sponsor, my King of Space. All hail The Mittani. |

Jean Leaner
Kickass inc Nulli Tertius
35
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Posted - 2012.02.11 02:06:00 -
[87] - Quote
You have my sword |

smushsmush
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.02.11 02:13:00 -
[88] - Quote
If you think that virtual pants are more important than spaceships, I donGÇÖt want your vote .
my ceo, it's a good thing i dont fly my ships while in said pants. infact i wear no pants at all. you have my vote |

Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 02:21:00 -
[89] - Quote
Jean Leaner wrote:You have my sword And my pants!
This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |

Talamant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 02:45:00 -
[90] - Quote
My puppy!... I mean, my CEO! :allears: |
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Sendo Jarix
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 03:06:00 -
[91] - Quote
You had me at puppies. |

Johan Krieger
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
61
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 03:33:00 -
[92] - Quote
My glorious chairman/ceo/space godking. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1541
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 04:13:00 -
[93] - Quote
Xenuria wants to be The Mittani so freaking bad...
So do I. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Deitis Surtic
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
22
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 04:25:00 -
[94] - Quote
Yeah, alright. You've done well so far, let the reign continue.
+1 |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
300
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 04:39:00 -
[95] - Quote
Ladie Harlot, if I was the mittani (so you couldn't be him). Would you be my Punkturis? Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Randomus Namus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 04:54:00 -
[96] - Quote
I came expecting a good post.
I was only somewhat disappointed.
You're getting close to posting as well as Endie, Mittens.
~my leader~ |

Randomus Namus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 04:58:00 -
[97] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:GREAT ZOMBIE JESUS!
Do you have any idea how much of a hipster dirtbag you are? Seriously take a good hard look at the images you linked of yourself. Just take one freaking moment and put down the PBR and really take a look.
You have done NOTHING for the CSM and NOTHING for the EvE playing base.
I am at Cause with you Mittani! I am coming for your job!
Vote Hope Vote Strange Vote Xenuria!
I was drinking a PBR when I read this.
I will be voting for my dearest of leaders. |

Ke'Daar
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 05:17:00 -
[98] - Quote
You got my vote! 
You and your fellow council members have done more than any CSM in the past. I wait in anticipation to see what you have up your sleeve next |

Kyle Myr
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
59
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 06:16:00 -
[99] - Quote
You've got my support. And my cyno alt. |

Kratisto
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 06:17:00 -
[100] - Quote
May it be long that the trumpets of Goondor, and everything that is good of eve, sound under the banner of The Mittani, while he yet rests upon the chairmanship of the CSM |
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Richard Bong
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 06:28:00 -
[101] - Quote
~My CEO and King Of Space~ [ASK] Me about drive by thread shitting! |

h g
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 06:44:00 -
[102] - Quote
You have my market alts vote. |

e h
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 06:45:00 -
[103] - Quote
and this ones |

h z
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 06:45:00 -
[104] - Quote
oh yeah this one also |

Roime
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
178
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 06:54:00 -
[105] - Quote
Before CSM6 I thought you were nothing more than loud mouth troll, but during this time I forced myself to see through the rather awesome trolling, read the Spymaster blog and realised that you are indeed a very good chairman.
Thanks for CSM6, you did a great job!
Also, pretty jelly of that Punkturis pic :D
|

Phigmeta
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 07:00:00 -
[106] - Quote
Thankyou Mittani for your service to this fine game.
You have my votes .....
OH ......
..... OOK OOK !!! |

Ryan Rs
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 07:27:00 -
[107] - Quote
Mr. Mittani, you are the reason I started playing EVE. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
308
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 07:28:00 -
[108] - Quote
Just posting to collect more goon bot likes, yums. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
86
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 07:58:00 -
[109] - Quote
Roime wrote:Before CSM6 I thought you were nothing more than loud mouth troll, but during this time I forced myself to see through the rather awesome trolling, read the Spymaster blog and realised that you are indeed a very good chairman. Good job Roime !
|

Xutech
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
144
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 08:09:00 -
[110] - Quote
Delicious |
|

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
94
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 08:11:00 -
[111] - Quote
Li Malak wrote:I like this Topic! Also every Goon post in the first 5 pages. Am I doing this right?
Vote Mittens if you are not a worthless sack of excrement. Also vote Mittens if you ARE a worthless sack of excrement. Then kill yourself.
Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly, and for the same reason.
So what to do about a diaper wearing politician? 
|

HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
96
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 08:29:00 -
[112] - Quote
rodyas wrote:Just posting to collect more goon bot likes, yums.
our bots are smarter than you think |

Steelshine
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
55
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 08:34:00 -
[113] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI2WKeJpV8o&t=1m11s
in b4 red wedding |

Bring Stabity
Magellanic Itg Goonswarm Federation
57
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 08:48:00 -
[114] - Quote
rodyas wrote:Just posting to collect more goon bot likes, yums.
Any post saying "goon" or "bot" does not receive a like. You may think us dumb, but the Art of War clearly states never to underestimate your fihahnbdsabdahjsdbasjl.dklaksdmasdkajnd |

Kcolor
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 08:53:00 -
[115] - Quote
http://www.toshimo.com/csm.html |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
572
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 09:51:00 -
[116] - Quote
More spam  |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
309
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 10:03:00 -
[117] - Quote
Bring Stabity wrote:rodyas wrote:Just posting to collect more goon bot likes, yums. Any post saying "goon" or "bot" does not receive a like. You may think us dumb, but the Art of War clearly states never to underestimate your fihahnbdsabdahjsdbasjl.dklaksdmasdkajnd
Well goonbes can go f their bottsu. Now Likes shall flow to me like milk and honey. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Groperson
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 10:06:00 -
[118] - Quote
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
309
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 10:08:00 -
[119] - Quote
Kcolor wrote:http://www.toshimo.com/csm.html
Very prophetic perhaps, also pretty glad of the 7th spot. As well as congrats to you guys. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Raptor217
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
44
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 10:10:00 -
[120] - Quote
~disappointed by the lack of tildes~ |
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hioshi IV
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 10:51:00 -
[121] - Quote
Every time I read something mitane has to say I lose the entire morning. He's like one of those fags on a train who -ühats l-+udly -ûnto their phone about their f*ck!ng boring career and waving their d!ck about so that everyone in the carriage knows how much of a big useless important boss he is
Voting on him is like eating your own vomit.
There's alot better candidates, more productive AND actually working towards the eve community than this guy, instead of his own belly
|

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
460
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 11:03:00 -
[122] - Quote
good post |

Prayer Angel
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 11:27:00 -
[123] - Quote
+1 For Mittani |

Zuju
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 11:44:00 -
[124] - Quote
all hail the space king.
or something like that... |

Adeirik Brelgard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 12:29:00 -
[125] - Quote
Quote: (4:04:13 PM) the_mittani: you want to see me in propaganda mode, wait until you see this csm thread (4:04:14 PM) shadoo: dabigredboat: we don't need to pretend you have anyone who trusts you with spy intel either now (4:04:15 PM) dent308: reset pl what, and hour ago. this is some great stuff (4:04:15 PM) the_mittani: that's propaganda
(4:04:46 PM) the_mittani: a good csm thread should send anyone into either apopleptic rage or a righteous fury
(4:05:48 PM) the_mittani: no one likes rdn, even their allies
(4:06:02 PM) shadoo: I love goons my friend the_mittani (4:06:12 PM) shadoo: I just rather shoot your pubbie allies (4:06:19 PM) the_mittani: ok how about this (4:06:21 PM) the_mittani: we kill rdn (4:06:24 PM) the_mittani: then you shoot our allies (4:06:28 PM) the_mittani: ;p (4:06:35 PM) Sa Matra: why not form up around ncdot or even init instead of raiden (4:06:56 PM) shadoo: I love T+òST the most hromodox )))
(4:07:47 PM) d-¦bigredboat: hromodox (4:07:49 PM) dabigredboat: you didn't hear (4:07:52 PM) dabigredboat: mittens is an earl (4:07:54 PM) dabigredboat: in england (4:08:28 PM) the_mittani: there's a street in rome named after my family vOv (4:08:47 PM) the_mittani: eurocred itt
(4:09:45 PM) the_mittani: i think the whole pl/rdn thing wouldn't be so controversial if rdn weren't such complete faglords
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Rockus
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 12:37:00 -
[126] - Quote
I give this a +1 |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 13:30:00 -
[127] - Quote
ban npc corp forum alts |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
576
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 13:46:00 -
[128] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:ban npc corp forum alts poor goons, you know ccp will not do that or maby you don't
|

Tomytronic
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
81
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 13:52:00 -
[129] - Quote
i'm posting in a mittani recruitment thread! |

Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
307
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 13:57:00 -
[130] - Quote
Why do you even bother writing a post? Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
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Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
468
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:06:00 -
[131] - Quote
Jowen Datloran wrote:Why do you even bother writing a post?
you don't get goons |

BanzaiBarge
Old Timers Guild Inc. Fusion Alliance
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:13:00 -
[132] - Quote
Quite frankly, I hate the Goons and everything they stand for. At the same time I love what they bring to New Eden.
The Mittani thrills in the asshattery I hate but is undeniably one of the best influences EVE will possibly ever have.
Honestly, you have to be a blind unthinking moron to not notice the positive influence that has been brought to bear. It does not matter if you haul something expensive in an Iteron V and get exploded by a ganker because you didn't want to plan your trip with secure transport with something like an Orca. It does not matter if an alliance member is actively at war with Goonswarm.
For the CSM, until somebody else will grow gutsy enough to rival Mittani in multiple levels, recognize the many things that make EVE so special (which includes piracy and mean people), that can prove a track record of positive effort of equivalent scale and scope, etc...
I'll be voting Mittani. All your vote are belong to him.
Now if we could get government politicians like this...  |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
34
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:20:00 -
[133] - Quote
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:ban npc corp forum alts poor goons, you know ccp will not do that or maby you don't 
learn english or stop posting |

Vellarix Bellonovski
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
26
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:36:00 -
[134] - Quote
So this is Spacebook, yes? |

djendjil
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
4
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:37:00 -
[135] - Quote
go for it mittani |

Jagger Darkening
Kriegsmarinewerft Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:40:00 -
[136] - Quote
in mittani we trust |

Menrith Hadel
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
51
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:40:00 -
[137] - Quote
HELIC0N ONE wrote:rodyas wrote:Just posting to collect more goon bot likes, yums. our bots are smarter than you think Uh-oh, program HELIC0N ONE is learning. I just hope it hasn't already reached the mainframe. |

Rushdie Saladin
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:42:00 -
[138] - Quote
All hail Peter Wig... I mean The Mittani! Hegemon of the Free People of Space! |

Vin Ott
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
12
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:43:00 -
[139] - Quote
mittani <3
|

Jessie42
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:43:00 -
[140] - Quote
Liking The Mittani
IN SPACE |
|

Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
177
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:43:00 -
[141] - Quote
What is your campaign position w/r/t pegging?
(its "all fours" lmbo) |

Shinrea
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
5
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:43:00 -
[142] - Quote
+1 for the Mittani |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
104
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:44:00 -
[143] - Quote
Well with the absence of any real solid campaign points other than stating simply what he doesn't represent, if re-elected I'm sure the Mittani will have no problem doing actually nothing again but ride on the tail coats of CCP and other CSM members. As such quite the "empty" manifesto as a result.
Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. Or that player interest, CCP direction or other more useful members of the CSM don't really contribute with their due dilligence. It would be too strange an idea that CCP might actually be a professional organisation with some integrity. But of course take only "his" word that this in effect is happening as the effective motivating force behind CCP, lol.
Meanwhile spies in the swarm have given us information of the only idea the Mittani has come up with so far for CSM 7 and it concerns "tractor beams". |

Kalras Kruger
Kernel of War Goonswarm Federation
4
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:44:00 -
[144] - Quote
+1 For Mittani |

Snedige Rekel
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:46:00 -
[145] - Quote
our Mittani.
THE KING OF SPACE |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
576
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:46:00 -
[146] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:ban npc corp forum alts poor goons, you know ccp will not do that or maby you don't  learn english or stop posting don't have to 
|

Geertruida Zelle
Quantum Wake Enemy-Fleet
10
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:50:00 -
[147] - Quote
If you want cuddles, pretty things and niceness then go play WoW.
Pubbies and hi-sec carebears should unite to save EvE - Vote Mittani!
(oh, and why has no one said nerf Titans yet?)
|

Orithien Veladorn
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:51:00 -
[148] - Quote
CSM7's results speak for themselves, and there is much more yet to be done.
So: +1 for the Mittani |

Disband the CSM
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:53:00 -
[149] - Quote
Orithien Veladorn wrote:CSM7's results speak for themselves, and there is much more yet to be done.
So: +1 for the Mittani
He couldn't pish off and drive off enough people in CSM6, more to do YO! |

Jessie42
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:54:00 -
[150] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Well with the absence of any real solid campaign points other than stating simply what he doesn't represent, if re-elected I'm sure the Mittani will have no problem doing actually nothing again but ride on the tail coats of CCP and other CSM members. As such quite the "empty" manifesto as a result. Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. Or that player interest, CCP direction or other more useful members of the CSM don't really contribute with their due dilligence. It would be too strange an idea that CCP might actually be a professional organisation with some integrity. But of course take only "his" word that this in effect is happening as the effective motivating force behind CCP, lol.
Meanwhile spies in the swarm have given us information of the only idea the Mittani has come up with so far for CSM 7 and it concerns " tractor beams".
lol |
|

Jessie42
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:55:00 -
[151] - Quote
God that was a bad post |

Jessie42
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:55:00 -
[152] - Quote
Disband the CSM wrote:Orithien Veladorn wrote:CSM7's results speak for themselves, and there is much more yet to be done.
So: +1 for the Mittani He couldn't pish off and drive off enough people in CSM6, more to do YO!
Hahaha this one is bad too |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
576
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:55:00 -
[153] - Quote
Geertruida Zelle wrote: If you want cuddles, pretty things and niceness then go play WoW.
Pubbies and hi-sec carebears should unite to save EvE - Vote Mittani!
(oh, and why has no one said nerf Titans yet?)
umadbro  |

Treyan Argund
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 14:56:00 -
[154] - Quote
My CEO Dear Leader Chairman Lmao Space King
+1 for the King of EVE |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:05:00 -
[155] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:I'm sure the Mittani will have no problem doing actually nothing again but ride on the tail coats of CCP and other CSM members.
Tails have coats now? AND THEY'RE RIDEABLE?
WHY WERE WE NOT TOLD?
Long live our dear leader! |

Dervinus
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
34
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:06:00 -
[156] - Quote
The chairman of our hearts |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:07:00 -
[157] - Quote
As Sun Tzu once said, "What's the deal with airline food?"
Vote Mittani! |

Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:13:00 -
[158] - Quote
The Mittani sits astride the stiff competition with a angelic smile upon his face . Deep is his penetration into the dark depths of wormholes. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:14:00 -
[159] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Well with the absence of any real solid campaign points other than stating simply what he doesn't represent, if re-elected I'm sure the Mittani will have no problem doing actually nothing again but ride on the coattails of CCP and other CSM members. As such quite the "empty" manifesto as a result. Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. Or that player interest, CCP direction or other more useful members of the CSM don't really contribute with their due dilligence. It would be too strange an idea that CCP might actually be a professional organisation with some integrity. But of course take only "his" word that this in effect is happening as the effective motivating force behind CCP, lol.
Meanwhile spies in the swarm have given us information of the only idea the Mittani has come up with so far for CSM 7 and it concerns " tractor beams".
shut up |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
106
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:16:00 -
[160] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Well with the absence of any real solid campaign points other than stating simply what he doesn't represent, if re-elected I'm sure the Mittani will have no problem doing actually nothing again but ride on the coattails of CCP and other CSM members. As such quite the "empty" manifesto as a result. Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. Or that player interest, CCP direction or other more useful members of the CSM don't really contribute with their due dilligence. It would be too strange an idea that CCP might actually be a professional organisation with some integrity. But of course take only "his" word that this in effect is happening as the effective motivating force behind CCP, lol.
Meanwhile spies in the swarm have given us information of the only idea the Mittani has come up with so far for CSM 7 and it concerns " tractor beams". shut up
Seriously Andski, thats the best rebuttal you can come up with? How lame. |
|

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:19:00 -
[161] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Well with the absence of any real solid campaign points other than stating simply what he doesn't represent, if re-elected I'm sure the Mittani will have no problem doing actually nothing again but ride on the coattails of CCP and other CSM members. As such quite the "empty" manifesto as a result. Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. Or that player interest, CCP direction or other more useful members of the CSM don't really contribute with their due dilligence. It would be too strange an idea that CCP might actually be a professional organisation with some integrity. But of course take only "his" word that this in effect is happening as the effective motivating force behind CCP, lol.
Meanwhile spies in the swarm have given us information of the only idea the Mittani has come up with so far for CSM 7 and it concerns " tractor beams". shut up Seriously Andski, thats the best rebuttal you can come up with? How lame.
you're parroting the same crap every other pubbie says
just stop |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
46
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:20:00 -
[162] - Quote
no you see guys the CSM didn't do anything to bring about change in the game, it was all some idiots shooting a statue in jita |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:20:00 -
[163] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:It would be too strange an idea that CCP might actually be a professional organisation with some integrity.
Indeed, it would.
|

Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
179
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:21:00 -
[164] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Well with the absence of any real solid campaign points other than stating simply what he doesn't represent, if re-elected I'm sure the Mittani will have no problem doing actually nothing again but ride on the coattails of CCP and other CSM members. As such quite the "empty" manifesto as a result. Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. Or that player interest, CCP direction or other more useful members of the CSM don't really contribute with their due dilligence. It would be too strange an idea that CCP might actually be a professional organisation with some integrity. But of course take only "his" word that this in effect is happening as the effective motivating force behind CCP, lol.
Meanwhile spies in the swarm have given us information of the only idea the Mittani has come up with so far for CSM 7 and it concerns " tractor beams". shut up Seriously Andski, thats the best rebuttal you can come up with? How lame.
its not the post you want, but it is the post you deserve |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
106
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:22:00 -
[165] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Well with the absence of any real solid campaign points other than stating simply what he doesn't represent, if re-elected I'm sure the Mittani will have no problem doing actually nothing again but ride on the coattails of CCP and other CSM members. As such quite the "empty" manifesto as a result. Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. Or that player interest, CCP direction or other more useful members of the CSM don't really contribute with their due dilligence. It would be too strange an idea that CCP might actually be a professional organisation with some integrity. But of course take only "his" word that this in effect is happening as the effective motivating force behind CCP, lol.
Meanwhile spies in the swarm have given us information of the only idea the Mittani has come up with so far for CSM 7 and it concerns " tractor beams". shut up Seriously Andski, thats the best rebuttal you can come up with? How lame. you're parroting the same crap every other pubbie says just stop
You mean there are a number of people out there who hold a similar conviction. Oh dear, maybe then this viewpoint holds some merit? Just a thought.
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
46
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:23:00 -
[166] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:You mean there are a number of people out there who hold a similar conviction. Oh dear, maybe then this viewpoint holds some merit? Just a thought.
a lot of people think that bigfoot is real, that the moon landings were faked
their viewpoints hold merit because they're a lot of people, apparently! |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:23:00 -
[167] - Quote
Tell me more about CCP's record of being a professional organization with integrity. |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
106
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:26:00 -
[168] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:You mean there are a number of people out there who hold a similar conviction. Oh dear, maybe then this viewpoint holds some merit? Just a thought.
a lot of people think that bigfoot is real, that the moon landings were faked their viewpoints hold merit because they're a lot of people, apparently!
Likewise these numbers games seem to "similarly" work for Goonswarm candidates in elections also.  |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
46
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:29:00 -
[169] - Quote
GSF has nothing compared to a potential organized hisec voting bloc, but keep telling yourself that |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4115
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:32:00 -
[170] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
You mean there are a number of people out there who hold a similar conviction. Oh dear, maybe then this viewpoint holds some merit? Just a thought.
views of npc alts are literally meaningless, and i will be smug in the truth of your impotence despite your many words wasted this season~ The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
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Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
106
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:35:00 -
[171] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
You mean there are a number of people out there who hold a similar conviction. Oh dear, maybe then this viewpoint holds some merit? Just a thought.
views of npc alts are literally meaningless, and i will be smug in the truth of your impotence despite your many words wasted this season~
Very well, you wait till after elections to make a point, its is after all your designed stratergy with an "empty" manifesto. I will be smug now in the many words you have simply wasted for all time.  |

Tiger Would
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
195
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:41:00 -
[172] - Quote
Quote:views of npc alts are literally meaningless
Its true, it is about the views of the person behind the meaningless npc alt, alliance CEO char or any other char. Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4141
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:49:00 -
[173] - Quote
Tiger Would wrote:Quote:views of npc alts are literally meaningless Its true, it is about the views of the person behind the meaningless npc alt, alliance CEO char or any other char.
a person hiding behind a npc alt is not relevant, either
sorry The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
106
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 15:53:00 -
[174] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Tiger Would wrote:Quote:views of npc alts are literally meaningless Its true, it is about the views of the person behind the meaningless npc alt, alliance CEO char or any other char. a person hiding behind a npc alt is not relevant, either sorry
Or a CSM hiding behind anonymity in minutes if that is the case.
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Tiger Would
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
199
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 16:08:00 -
[175] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Tiger Would wrote:Quote:views of npc alts are literally meaningless Its true, it is about the views of the person behind the meaningless npc alt, alliance CEO char or any other char. a person hiding behind a npc alt is not relevant, either sorry
Thats stating the obvious, we are all hiding behind our characters. Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |

BanzaiBarge
Old Timers Guild Inc. Fusion Alliance
6
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 16:24:00 -
[176] - Quote
This is the first thread I ever posted in on the EVE forums. (unless I was drunk and forgot...but I don't drink)
I immediately see a need for a DISlike button next to the Like button. Tracked separately.
However, I could easily see Mittani driving up his own dislikes... |

Kharthis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 16:30:00 -
[177] - Quote
Why do people randomly "quote" things for emphasis?
You have all of these options that have a purpose. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
93
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 17:02:00 -
[178] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:views of npc alts are literally meaningless, and i will be smug in the truth of your impotence despite your many words wasted this season~ Please teach us how to be smug with style like you ~
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The Mittani's Mommy
Perfecto Records Fedaykin.
65
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 17:05:00 -
[179] - Quote
My son
He talks to CCP roaches
I am so sorry |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
93
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 17:06:00 -
[180] - Quote
Oh oh, lets write fake poetry.
Space explodes There are titans Frigate is blapped
Richard Desturned wrote:no you see guys the CSM didn't do anything to bring about change in the game, it was all some idiots shooting a statue in jita I'm sure The Mittani called the statue primary. |
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namron 7
1-800-FUBAR
14
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 17:19:00 -
[181] - Quote
You have got a really pretty mouth
(my avatar talking. He likes to roleplay) Thanks for the help |

RDevz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 17:24:00 -
[182] - Quote
~my ceo~ |

Ispitane
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 17:26:00 -
[183] - Quote
~my ceo~ |

Emcera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 17:29:00 -
[184] - Quote
~my ceo~
(Incidentally, if you could make it so that I didn't have to type in passwords and character names to +rep and post "~my ceo~" on each of my accounts, I'd be eternally grateful.) |

Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
37
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 17:33:00 -
[185] - Quote
CSM6 (chaired by Mittens!) is known for getting CCP to change their direction from developing designer spacejeans and Twilight Online to actually developing the core of EVE's gameplay. CSM3 is known for Larkonisgate. All the other CSM's are known for....
Exactly. Vote for Mittens. Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460 |

HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
106
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 17:37:00 -
[186] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS.
How foolish to think that face-to-face human interaction would have any effect on decision making processes.
Clearly the actions of anonymous spaceship characters at their computers is far more convincing.
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Oberine Noriepa
574
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:06:00 -
[187] - Quote
Approved. |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
111
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:16:00 -
[188] - Quote
HELIC0N ONE wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. How foolish to think that face-to-face human interaction would have any effect on decision making processes. Clearly the actions of anonymous spaceship characters at their computers is far more convincing.
Well if the face-to-face CSM meetings and skype calls are believed to be effective by "all" the council members concerned in an advisory capacity then I would say that it does have an effect.
Or that perhaps CCP do in fact place stock in these annonymous people who actually pay their wages? Or have forums to openly discuss ideas? Or that they hold Expo's? Or the reason they have marketing feedback questionairres? Or that unsubbing influences usually can have a strong infleunce of commercial MMO developers?
But of course it is easy for you to blow the Goon horn for your master in his claims that CCP actually do their buisness in bars in Iceland at the directive of a "whispering" Mittani. I do understand that business does have an element of social entertaining and I'm sure it helps with understanding people but I doubt it is as effective as you're being told to believe or as much as the Mittani wouldn't inflate the truth for his own purposes and ego of course. 
If what you claim is true I would like and I'm sure the playerbase would interested in CCP coroborating these claims that the interests of EvE and CCP development are solely being influenced and directed purely by the Mittani's bar bill. |

Karadion
413
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:17:00 -
[189] - Quote
HELIC0N ONE wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. How foolish to think that face-to-face human interaction would have any effect on decision making processes. Clearly the actions of anonymous spaceship characters at their computers is far more convincing. If he got out of his parent's basement and made friends, he'd realize that he can disprove his own argument when he gains social skills. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
581
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:18:00 -
[190] - Quote
Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:CSM6 (chaired by Mittens!) is known for getting CCP to change their direction from developing designer spacejeans and Twilight Online to actually developing the core of EVE's gameplay. CSM3 is known for Larkonisgate. All the other CSM's are known for....
Exactly. Vote for Mittens. Prove it |
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4203
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:19:00 -
[191] - Quote
aspies gonna asp
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Jessie42
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:24:00 -
[192] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. How foolish to think that face-to-face human interaction would have any effect on decision making processes. Clearly the actions of anonymous spaceship characters at their computers is far more convincing. Well if the face-to-face CSM meetings and skype calls are believed to be effective by "all" the council members concerned in an advisory capacity then I would say that it does have an effect. Or that perhaps CCP do in fact place stock in these annonymous people who actually pay their wages? Or have forums to openly discuss ideas? Or that they hold Expo's? Or the reason they have marketing feedback questionairres? Or that unsubbing influences usually can have a strong infleunce of commercial MMO developers? But of course it is easy for you to blow the Goon horn for your master in his claims that CCP actually do their buisness in bars in Iceland at the directive of a "whispering" Mittani. I do understand that business does have an element of social entertaining and I'm sure it helps with understanding people but I doubt it is as effective as you're being told to believe or as much as the Mittani wouldn't inflate the truth for his own purposes and ego of course.  If what you claim is true I would like and I'm sure the playerbase would interested in CCP coroborating these claims that the interests of EvE and CCP development are solely being influenced and directed purely by the Mittani's bar bill.
look at those words
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Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
111
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:31:00 -
[193] - Quote
Karadion wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. How foolish to think that face-to-face human interaction would have any effect on decision making processes. Clearly the actions of anonymous spaceship characters at their computers is far more convincing. If he got out of his parent's basement and made friends, he'd realize that he can disprove his own argument when he gains social skills.
Before I retired, I was a project manager of international multi-million pound contracts in computing so I have some capabilities in understanding how discussions and social entertainment can influence buisness. Something I don't need my mother or my freinds to confirm for me, though they have remarked how proud they are of some of my achievements. They also are the few individuals I will let call me an "idiot" if it's deserved. |

Caladan Rake
The Resident Haunting Important Internet Spaceship League
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:32:00 -
[194] - Quote
Jessie42 wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Oh and pretending he has CCP's ear by having a few drinks with them whilst in holiday mode, interesting that he claims to be the main driving force of change here, whereas the summer of player protesting had absolutley nothing to do with CCP's U-turn on WiS. How foolish to think that face-to-face human interaction would have any effect on decision making processes. Clearly the actions of anonymous spaceship characters at their computers is far more convincing. Well if the face-to-face CSM meetings and skype calls are believed to be effective by "all" the council members concerned in an advisory capacity then I would say that it does have an effect. Or that perhaps CCP do in fact place stock in these annonymous people who actually pay their wages? Or have forums to openly discuss ideas? Or that they hold Expo's? Or the reason they have marketing feedback questionairres? Or that unsubbing influences usually can have a strong infleunce of commercial MMO developers? But of course it is easy for you to blow the Goon horn for your master in his claims that CCP actually do their buisness in bars in Iceland at the directive of a "whispering" Mittani. I do understand that business does have an element of social entertaining and I'm sure it helps with understanding people but I doubt it is as effective as you're being told to believe or as much as the Mittani wouldn't inflate the truth for his own purposes and ego of course.  If what you claim is true I would like and I'm sure the playerbase would interested in CCP coroborating these claims that the interests of EvE and CCP development are solely being influenced and directed purely by the Mittani's bar bill. look at those words
they make good kindling
You've got my vote already based on track record and ~, but I was kind of curious what you felt was the most glaring issue still needing rectumfying?
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Rothana Haldane
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:34:00 -
[195] - Quote
my vote. My hero |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4314
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:40:00 -
[196] - Quote
Caladan Rake wrote: You've got my vote already based on track record and ~, but I was kind of curious what you felt was the most glaring issue still needing rectumfying?
pegging joke spotted
risk/reward in nullsec: the pointlessness of actually holding sov. this includes stuff like a tech rebalance, boosts to the ihub upgrade system, general buffs to null income to bring it inline with 'spewing isk everywhere for no risk' experiences in hisec like l4 mission botting and incursions
there's a bunch of other crap that I'll continue to push for, of course - dead horse/modular pos revamp, turret titan tracking rebalancing, EAS impacting ewar immune ships, farms and fields.
this isn't anything new from what we've been doing in CSM6, it's just going down the agenda trying to get CCP to patch the sucking chest wounds as they do triage to bring Flying in Space back to where it should have been in priorities The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

uziel99
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:41:00 -
[197] - Quote
The King of Space has my vote. |

Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
42
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:46:00 -
[198] - Quote
~my ceo~
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |

Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
43
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:49:00 -
[199] - Quote
EVENews24 Headline: The Mittani advocates botting.
The Mittani wrote:botting
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |

Malowned Flagg
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:50:00 -
[200] - Quote
~my ceo~ |
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Caldari Citizen 786478786
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
61
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:52:00 -
[201] - Quote
Omg, the lemmings are out in FORCE! |

Jennylicous
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:52:00 -
[202] - Quote
There's no way I can vote for any CSM 6 member that takes credit for putting CCP on the right track. It's the thousands of pod pilots cancelling their accounts which put CCP on the right track. You're there for CCP to bounce their ideas off of you and can be commended for that, but to take credit for opening CCP's eyes and putting them on the right track is proposterous.
Would you agree with that, Mittani? I didn't read the walls of text so just trying to get clarification here as it sounds like that's the negative thing about you on some posts I've read. |

Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
43
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:53:00 -
[203] - Quote
Are you threatened by the up and coming Xenuria? Do you think his policies accurately represent his lack of understand of this game or were you just watching those eyebrows throughout that whole video?
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |

Sascha Ales
Phoenix. Tactical Narcotics Team
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:55:00 -
[204] - Quote
my vote |

Johan Krieger
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
65
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:56:00 -
[205] - Quote
Syndic Thrass wrote:Are you threatened by the up and coming Xenuria? Do you think his policies accurately represent his lack of understand of this game or were you just watching those eyebrows throughout that whole video?
Definitely the eyebrows. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4356
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 18:59:00 -
[206] - Quote
Jennylicous wrote:There's no way I can vote for any CSM 6 member that takes credit for putting CCP on the right track. It's the thousands of pod pilots cancelling their accounts which put CCP on the right track. You're there for CCP to bounce their ideas off of you and can be commended for that, but to take credit for opening CCP's eyes and putting them on the right track is proposterous.
Would you agree with that, Mittani? I didn't read the walls of text so just trying to get clarification here as it sounds like that's the negative thing about you on some posts I've read.
the voices of npc corp alts whining about me are music to my ears
rage some more, i welcome your badposts The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Whiskey Juvenile
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
7
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 19:08:00 -
[207] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Caladan Rake wrote: You've got my vote already based on track record and ~, but I was kind of curious what you felt was the most glaring issue still needing rectumfying?
pegging joke spotted risk/reward in nullsec: the pointlessness of actually holding sov. this includes stuff like a tech rebalance, boosts to the ihub upgrade system, general buffs to null income to bring it inline with 'spewing isk everywhere for no risk' experiences in hisec like l4 mission botting and incursions there's a bunch of other crap that I'll continue to push for, of course - dead horse/modular pos revamp, turret titan tracking rebalancing, EAS impacting ewar immune ships, farms and fields. this isn't anything new from what we've been doing in CSM6, it's just going down the agenda trying to get CCP to patch the sucking chest wounds as they do triage to bring Flying in Space back to where it should have been in priorities
Does "general buffs to null income" also mean trying to make nullsec mining better? Highsec miners can eat a thousand flaming dicks, but nullsec miners actually have to take risks.
Also, ~my CEO, my CSM~ |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
288
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 19:08:00 -
[208] - Quote
Wake up you puppets!
Have you forgotten the Jita Protests? Have you forgotten "Greed is good?"? Have you forgotten that the reason we don't have walking in stations and more stylish high end clothing options is because of the jackass who started this thread?
If it was not for mittani we would be all wandering around in massive station environments right now wearing mink legging under pants that cost upwards of 15 plex! EVE had the chance of being something to rival second life and now look where we are.
We still don't have direct X 11 graphics, Rats still have insane ECM and damps and are not on a level playing field with players. We will probably never see WIS now that mitt and his cabal of sith lords sperged at CCP until they gave up any and all plans of adding NEW content.
New Eden deserves a better class of CSM and I am going to give it to them. Xenuria for CSM |

Whiskey Juvenile
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
7
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 19:11:00 -
[209] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Wake up you puppets!
Have you forgotten the Jita Protests? Have you forgotten "Greed is good?"? Have you forgotten that the reason we don't have walking in stations and more stylish high end clothing options is because of the jackass who started this thread?
If it was not for mittani we would be all wandering around in massive station environments right now wearing mink legging under pants that cost upwards of 15 plex! EVE had the chance of being something to rival second life and now look where we are.
We still don't have direct X 11 graphics, Rats still have insane ECM and damps and are not on a level playing field with players. We will probably never see WIS now that mitt and his cabal of sith lords sperged at CCP until they gave up any and all plans of adding NEW content.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Seriously.
Actually, I'm pretty sure you are being sarcastic. |

Caladan Rake
The Resident Haunting Important Internet Spaceship League
4
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 19:17:00 -
[210] - Quote
Whiskey Juvenile wrote:Xenuria wrote:Wake up you puppets!
Have you forgotten the Jita Protests? Have you forgotten "Greed is good?"? Have you forgotten that the reason we don't have walking in stations and more stylish high end clothing options is because of the jackass who started this thread?
If it was not for mittani we would be all wandering around in massive station environments right now wearing mink legging under pants that cost upwards of 15 plex! EVE had the chance of being something to rival second life and now look where we are.
We still don't have direct X 11 graphics, Rats still have insane ECM and damps and are not on a level playing field with players. We will probably never see WIS now that mitt and his cabal of sith lords sperged at CCP until they gave up any and all plans of adding NEW content.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Seriously.Actually, I'm pretty sure you are being sarcastic.
I was literally thinking the same thing.
@Mittani - You may have just phrased it as a way of making your point, but you think that we should buff null income, and not nerf L4/Incursion income? Or a bit of both? Just curious. |
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Tango Zulu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 19:18:00 -
[211] - Quote
Xenuria wrote: We will probably never see WIS now that mitt and his cabal of sith lords sperged at CCP until they gave up any and all plans of adding NEW content.
The_MittRomney doesn't care about the poor. |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
288
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 19:19:00 -
[212] - Quote
You just don't get it do you?
Sure Mittani will buy hundreds of votes and because of this he has a good chance of winning. However I will play by the rules and stick to my values so that by the end of this election people will see that even a hipster-godking can bleed. Xenuria for CSM |

Caladan Rake
The Resident Haunting Important Internet Spaceship League
4
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 19:22:00 -
[213] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:You just don't get it do you?
Sure Mittani will buy hundreds of votes and because of this he has a good chance of winning. However I will play by the rules and stick to my values so that by the end of this election people will see that even a hipster-godking can bleed.
If he chooses to continue to shove his space wealth in the collective g-strings of those who also happen to think he's doing a good job, who are we to argue? |

Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
107
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 19:23:00 -
[214] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:aspies gonna asp SHA-ZAM! 
Meanwhile...
The Mittani wrote:this isn't anything new from what we've been doing in CSM6, it's just going down the agenda trying to get CCP to patch the sucking chest wounds as they do triage to bring Flying in Space back to where it should have been in priorities
The Mittani wrote: it's just going down the agenda trying to get CCP to patch the sucking chest wounds
The Mittani wrote: sucking chest wounds
EVERYBODY TAKE A DRINK! This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
581
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Posted - 2012.02.11 19:33:00 -
[215] - Quote
Syndic Thrass wrote:EVENews24 Headline: The Mittani advocates botting. The Mittani wrote:botting Well said.
But there was a quote somewhere that actualy says hesupports boting to bad i dont remember where it was exactly |

Karadion
414
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 19:52:00 -
[216] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:You just don't get it do you?
Sure Mittani will buy hundreds of votes and because of this he has a good chance of winning. However I will play by the rules and stick to my values so that by the end of this election people will see that even a hipster-godking can bleed. I'm still poor. Where's my bailout The Mittani! |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
288
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 20:03:00 -
[217] - Quote
Have you forgotten? Xenuria for CSM |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
681
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 20:06:00 -
[218] - Quote
I wish I could forget |

Meruvyoo Rongtime
Shojuo 'n Shonen
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 20:27:00 -
[219] - Quote
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Syndic Thrass wrote:EVENews24 Headline: The Mittani advocates botting. The Mittani wrote:botting Well said. But there was a quote somewhere that actualy says hesupports boting to bad i dont remember where it was exactly
I think he said some things to the effect of "Belt ratting is boring as sh!t, and needs to be fixed," and "If anyone talks to me about botters, I'll point them in the direction of customer support anyways, because catching them is not my job." |

Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
39
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 20:28:00 -
[220] - Quote
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:CSM6 (chaired by Mittens!) is known for getting CCP to change their direction from developing designer spacejeans and Twilight Online to actually developing the core of EVE's gameplay. CSM3 is known for Larkonisgate. All the other CSM's are known for....
Exactly. Vote for Mittens. Prove it
Okay.
Can you name any significant achivement that any other CSM has achieved? Do they stack up to handling the Incarna diasater? I'm guessing not. Mittens' steadfastness in making CCP realise what a mistake they were making with Incarna was exactly what we needed in a chairman. His Skype channel and his thread about discussing issues with his constituents show a detail to the position that no other CSM could have pulled off, and the similar background of all of the CSM members helped get ideas pushed through to CCP more efficiently than past CSMs that tried to recognize every interest. CSM6 got a lot done, and I'm voting for Mittens again so that we can keep that trend going.
Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460 |
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Lord MushroomStamp
Global Gang Bangers Two Inch Terror
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 20:29:00 -
[221] - Quote
Space pants, this is a terrible idea. Walking in stations, a worse idea. The next thing is some jerk trying to get an internet space ship game to have a modeling contest.
Mittani, my votes for you.
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Talamant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 21:10:00 -
[222] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:You just don't get it do you?
Sure Mittani will buy hundreds of votes and because of this he has a good chance of winning. However I will play by the rules and stick to my values so that by the end of this election people will see that even a hipster-godking can bleed. He has all my votes for free  |

Randomus Namus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 21:14:00 -
[223] - Quote
Every time Xenuria cross promotes h(im)erself by pointing out useless personal tidbits about Mittens I have another drink.
I think my liver's failing. |

Randomus Namus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 21:14:00 -
[224] - Quote
Nice snipe. |

Osabojo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
108
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 21:14:00 -
[225] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote: Before I retired, I was a project manager of international multi-million pound contracts in computing so I have some capabilities in understanding how discussions and social entertainment can influence buisness. Something I don't need my mother or my freinds to confirm for me, though they have remarked how proud they are of some of my achievements. They also are the few individuals I will let call me an "idiot" if it's deserved.
I, too, have done nerd business with other nerds. |

Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
109
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 21:19:00 -
[226] - Quote
Looks like somebody's forgotten basic grooming tips.
This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |

Meclin
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 21:24:00 -
[227] - Quote
+1 for the King of Space and free rides to fites! |

Jerrin Swoop
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 21:25:00 -
[228] - Quote
Doing my part by clicking on a button. |

BBJ Shepard
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
205
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 21:26:00 -
[229] - Quote
LOL ?(: |

doombreed52
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
6
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 21:55:00 -
[230] - Quote
mittens! anyways see you on csm for another year cute husky btw.
EDIT: didnt notice this.
Xenuria wrote:You just don't get it do you?
Sure Mittani will buy hundreds of votes and because of this he has a good chance of winning. However I will play by the rules and stick to my values so that by the end of this election people will see that even a hipster-godking can bleed.
hipsters. get a job you hippy and take a shower jeez stay in highsec god. |
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Doris Dents
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
131
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 22:00:00 -
[231] - Quote
Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:CSM6 (chaired by Mittens!) is known for getting CCP to change their direction from developing designer spacejeans and Twilight Online to actually developing the core of EVE's gameplay. CSM3 is known for Larkonisgate. All the other CSM's are known for....
Exactly. Vote for Mittens. To be fair CSM5 is known for a bunch of empire bears who'd never used a jump bridge voting to get rid of them because IDK I guess travel in 0.0 isn't painful enough and titans needed a big boost by proxy. |

IntegralHellsing
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 22:00:00 -
[232] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:You just don't get it do you?
Sure Mittani will buy hundreds of votes and because of this he has a good chance of winning. However I will play by the rules and stick to my values so that by the end of this election people will see that even a hipster-godking can bleed. Someone's desperate  |

doombreed52
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
6
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 22:15:00 -
[233] - Quote
IntegralHellsing wrote:Xenuria wrote:You just don't get it do you?
Sure Mittani will buy hundreds of votes and because of this he has a good chance of winning. However I will play by the rules and stick to my values so that by the end of this election people will see that even a hipster-godking can bleed. Someone's desperate 
like the great overlord/chairman (ffs mittens titles) conspiracy theories and highsec pubbie "vote grinding" oh this is fun. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
95
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 22:22:00 -
[234] - Quote
Talamant wrote:Xenuria wrote:You just don't get it do you?
Sure Mittani will buy hundreds of votes and because of this he has a good chance of winning. However I will play by the rules and stick to my values so that by the end of this election people will see that even a hipster-godking can bleed. He has all my votes for free  Yeah, why buy hundreds when you just need to tell people and they'll give you thousands.
Too much tinfoil there, your brain must be roasting. |

EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
286
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 23:09:00 -
[235] - Quote
I, too, have posted in this thread. |

Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
52
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 23:35:00 -
[236] - Quote
And that is why it is now ****...
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |

Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
52
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 23:38:00 -
[237] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:You just don't get it do you?
Sure Mittani will buy hundreds of votes and because of this he has a good chance of winning. However I will play by the rules and stick to my values so that by the end of this election people will see that even a hipster-godking can bleed.
There you have it ladies and gentlemen, I am here tonight to reveal to you that the Goonfleet Reimbursement Program is not actually a Reimbursement Program it's all one big method of embezzling the money Mittens promised us for our votes.
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |

Fractals 4Lyfe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
45
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 23:41:00 -
[238] - Quote
All hail The Mittani, King of Space |

EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
289
|
Posted - 2012.02.11 23:46:00 -
[239] - Quote
Syndic Thrass wrote:And that is why it is now ****...
 |

Willard Mitt Romney
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 00:22:00 -
[240] - Quote
Mitt Romney cannot endorse this candidate. He represents the interests of the rich over the poor. The powerful over the weak. I can appreciate that, but Mr. The Mittani's record does not show that he is willing to share power with us, the other members of the power elite. On the contrary, he represents the interests of a secret society called the Guns.... pardon me-- the Goons. There is no place in New Eden for cults or secret society-ism, such as Freemasonry, Scientology, or Goonism. Only for organizations that are open and support the faith and morals of the citizens. For instance, Mormonism. Goonism, no. Furthermore, my God-fearing American parents gave me the name Mitt as my legal name, and by golly I am the only person with a Mitt-like name that is legitimately running for office. I'm Mitt Romney and I approve of this message. |
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Hesperus Vanderbeets
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
130
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 00:29:00 -
[241] - Quote
are you a girl?
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Sendo Jarix
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 00:47:00 -
[242] - Quote
I don't remember if I posted, so I'm posting again. |

Randomus Namus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 00:53:00 -
[243] - Quote
Hesperus Vanderbeets wrote:are you a girl?
Do you love the baby jesus? |

Randomus Namus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 00:53:00 -
[244] - Quote
Nice snipe again. God damn it. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
101
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 01:25:00 -
[245] - Quote
Syndic Thrass wrote:There you have it ladies and gentlemen, I am here tonight to reveal to you that the Goonfleet Reimbursement Program is not actually a Reimbursement Program it's all one big method of embezzling the money Mittens promised us for our votes. What?! Oh no, my blackbird reimbursement was actually an illusion? |

Whiskey Juvenile
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
11
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 02:33:00 -
[246] - Quote
Willard Mitt Romney wrote:Mitt Romney cannot endorse this candidate. He represents the interests of the rich over the poor. The powerful over the weak. I can appreciate that, but Mr. The Mittani's record does not show that he is willing to share power with us, the other members of the power elite. On the contrary, he represents the interests of a secret society called the Guns.... pardon me-- the Goons. There is no place in New Eden for cults or secret society-ism, such as Freemasonry, Scientology, or Goonism. Only for organizations that are open and support the faith and morals of the citizens. For instance, Mormonism. Goonism, no. Furthermore, my God-fearing American parents gave me the name Mitt as my legal name, and by golly I am the only person with a Mitt-like name that is legitimately running for office. I'm Mitt Romney and I approve of this message.
In the history of the world there have been many secret societies. Freemasons, Scientology, The illuminatti, even the Majestic 12.
Now Willard is here to warn us of a new threat against America. That threat calls itself Goons, and they will destroy everything you hold dear.
This film is not yet rated. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 02:51:00 -
[247] - Quote
Whiskey Juvenile wrote:This film is not yet rated. Rated S for spaceships.
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EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 02:57:00 -
[248] - Quote
Rated D for Dongues |

EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 02:58:00 -
[249] - Quote
Or buttes, preferably. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 04:15:00 -
[250] - Quote
Oh captain my captain |
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IntegralHellsing
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
8
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 04:17:00 -
[251] - Quote
Dear leader! |

Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
80
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 05:31:00 -
[252] - Quote
Midge Mo'yb wrote:200 exhumers will see death in honoUr of your election campaign!
http://kb.batcountry-eve.org/index.php/cc_detail/4/
goal met, but the thirst has not been quenched, more catalysts are required |

Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
187
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 05:50:00 -
[253] - Quote
Randomus Namus wrote:Every time Xenuria cross promotes h(im)erself by pointing out useless personal tidbits about Mittens I have another drink.
yeah about that Xenuria |

Jean Leaner
Kickass inc Nulli Tertius
42
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 06:16:00 -
[254] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote: They also are the few individuals I will let call me an "idiot" if it's deserved.
So how exactly are you going to stop me from calling you an idiot, idiot. |

Darth Tickles
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
28
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 06:25:00 -
[255] - Quote
...who? |

Li Malak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 06:53:00 -
[256] - Quote
Posting is Serious Business and should be taken Seriously. |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
124
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 07:54:00 -
[257] - Quote
Jean Leaner wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote: They also are the few individuals I will let call me an "idiot" if it's deserved. So how exactly are you going to stop me from calling you an idiot, idiot.
"I don't need a "friend" who changes when I change and who nods when I nod; my shadow does that much better.", Plutarch |

Hesperus Vanderbeets
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 09:27:00 -
[258] - Quote
Most vile space tyrant. I enfind myself ov endorsement ov thine whims, let your will guide my lance into the peasants ov thine foe.
I hat engaged in thee edit of these here post ov great might, and of much endorsement in order to correct a glaring mistake ov most unholiness. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4516
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 09:48:00 -
[259] - Quote
a delightful sacrifice in the finest democratic tradition~ The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
338
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 10:33:00 -
[260] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Jean Leaner wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote: They also are the few individuals I will let call me an "idiot" if it's deserved. So how exactly are you going to stop me from calling you an idiot, idiot. "I don't need a "friend" who changes when I change and who nods when I nod; my shadow does that much better.", Plutarch
But sometimes an extra shadow is helpful. Of course to make that true- yes that quote is good, and you did a good job of posting it. Also that change ya did was smart and good, so I changed as you changed.
See everyone likes a shadow. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
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Hatsumi Kobayashi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
55
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 10:43:00 -
[261] - Quote
Do you intend to use your CSM powers to post more pictures of your dog and to make riverini feel terrible as often as possible?
Forgive me if this was previously asked. CAUTION
SNIGGS |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
584
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 11:08:00 -
[262] - Quote
Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:CSM6 (chaired by Mittens!) is known for getting CCP to change their direction from developing designer spacejeans and Twilight Online to actually developing the core of EVE's gameplay. CSM3 is known for Larkonisgate. All the other CSM's are known for....
Exactly. Vote for Mittens. Prove it Okay. Can you name any significant achivement that any other CSM has achieved? Do they stack up to handling the Incarna diasater? I'm guessing not. Mittens' steadfastness in making CCP realise what a mistake they were making with Incarna was exactly what we needed in a chairman. His Skype channel and his thread about discussing issues with his constituents show a detail to the position that no other CSM could have pulled off, and the similar background of all of the CSM members helped get ideas pushed through to CCP more efficiently than past CSMs that tried to recognize every interest. CSM6 got a lot done, and I'm voting for Mittens again so that we can keep that trend going.
The CSM minutes are are anonymus and do not show individual views of CSM dudes, therefore you canot say what he did or did not. And the EVE playerbase reaction didn't affect CCP decision "only Mittani with hi chrisma " yea right ?
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
340
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 11:09:00 -
[263] - Quote
I thought the mittani posting pics of his dog and stuff like that was part of his campaign. He is saying he is a man as you are a man. He lives life the way you live life. We are the same you and I, so vote for me.
I think making riverini feel terrible is everyone's hopes and dreams. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
290
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 13:37:00 -
[264] - Quote
Whiskey Juvenile wrote:Willard Mitt Romney wrote:Mitt Romney cannot endorse this candidate. He represents the interests of the rich over the poor. The powerful over the weak. I can appreciate that, but Mr. The Mittani's record does not show that he is willing to share power with us, the other members of the power elite. On the contrary, he represents the interests of a secret society called the Guns.... pardon me-- the Goons. There is no place in New Eden for cults or secret society-ism, such as Freemasonry, Scientology, or Goonism. Only for organizations that are open and support the faith and morals of the citizens. For instance, Mormonism. Goonism, no. Furthermore, my God-fearing American parents gave me the name Mitt as my legal name, and by golly I am the only person with a Mitt-like name that is legitimately running for office. I'm Mitt Romney and I approve of this message. In the history of the world there have been many secret societies. Freemasons, Scientology, The illuminatti, even the Majestic 12. Now Willard is here to warn us of a new threat against America. That threat calls itself Goons, and they will destroy everything you hold dear. This film is not yet rated.
You forgot Anonymous Xenuria for CSM |

IntegralHellsing
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
17
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 13:52:00 -
[265] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:You forgot Anonymous The one you're a supposed PR specialist of?  |

doombreed52
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
13
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 14:10:00 -
[266] - Quote
IntegralHellsing wrote:Xenuria wrote:You forgot Anonymous The one you're a supposed PR specialist of?  ZING! |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
290
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 14:26:00 -
[267] - Quote
doombreed52 wrote:IntegralHellsing wrote:Xenuria wrote:You forgot Anonymous The one you're a supposed PR specialist of?  ZING!
How is that supposed to be funny? Xenuria for CSM |

Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
59
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 14:30:00 -
[268] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:doombreed52 wrote:IntegralHellsing wrote:Xenuria wrote:You forgot Anonymous The one you're a supposed PR specialist of?  ZING! How is that supposed to be funny?
Have you never turned on the Special Olympics and laughed? Laughing at you is basically the same thing.
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |

Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
146
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 15:14:00 -
[269] - Quote
allies and enemies reds and blues vote for the mittani so we may carry on the business of killing each other burn the spacepants and stomp the hisec rights activists
wis: a roman orgy of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, all the evolving new and exciting things you've ever wanted.
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doombreed52
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
14
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 15:18:00 -
[270] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:allies and enemies reds and blues vote for the mittani so we may carry on the business of killing each other burn the spacepants and stomp the hisec rights activists
im up voting cause it kinda rhymed |
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Ntrails
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
35
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 15:54:00 -
[271] - Quote
Will you be supporting Ron Paul? |

HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
120
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 16:12:00 -
[272] - Quote
Ntrails wrote:Will you be supporting Ron Paul?
Never not support Ron Paul |

testobjekt
Creative Accounting Institute
38
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 16:16:00 -
[273] - Quote
Is chairman of the csm like being a surpreme court judge (aka lifetime position?) i'd like that |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
114
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 16:17:00 -
[274] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:allies and enemies reds and blues vote for the mittani so we may carry on the business of killing each other burn the spacepants and stomp the hisec rights activists
Beautiful concept. |

Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
119
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 16:23:00 -
[275] - Quote
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:"I don't need a "friend" who changes when I change and who nods when I nod; my shadow does that much better.", Plutarch Oh goodie! Now give us some Sun Tzu!
"Quoting ancient philosophers over a video game makes you look like a spergy douchebag." - Largo Coronet This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |

Osabojo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 16:41:00 -
[276] - Quote
Sun Ra > Sun Tzu
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Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
72
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 16:56:00 -
[277] - Quote
Rick James>Sun Tsu
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |

Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
72
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 16:57:00 -
[278] - Quote
Oh wait I got a really good one!
"I did not ask sexual favors from that boy." -Xenuria
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |

Phigmeta
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
15
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:20:00 -
[279] - Quote
OH and Sir mittens,
You have my vote and the votes of my many alts.
But dude ... TAN
Seriously, thier is this big circle out there up in the sky .... its the sun. You know that thing that makes shadoo curl up and wimper in the corner.
trust me its a good thing  |

Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
120
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 17:37:00 -
[280] - Quote
Mittens lives in Wisconsin, where the sun is merely a rumor started by sunscreen manufacturers and bathing suit retailers. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |
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Phigmeta
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
15
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:47:00 -
[281] - Quote
[quote=Largo Coronet]Mittens lives in Wisconsin, where the sun is merely a rumor started by sunscreen manufacturers and bathing suit retailers.[/quote
Ahh ok ... whats shadoo's excuse then? |

doombreed52
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:49:00 -
[282] - Quote
finland. |

Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
52
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Posted - 2012.02.12 18:18:00 -
[283] - Quote
My CEO~ EVE is dead |

Doctor Eezee
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 19:42:00 -
[284] - Quote
Syndic Thrass wrote:Oh wait I got a really good one!
"I did not ask sexual favors from that boy." -Xenuria
I got some more from that guy:
Quote:Am I sexually attracted to underage boys? Sexually attracted, you know, I enjoy young people. I love to be around them. But no, IGÇÖm not sexually attracted to young boys. -Xenuria
Quote:OK, we were showering and horsing around. And he actually turned all the showers on and was actually sliding across the floor and we were, as I recall, possibly like snapping a towel and horseplay. -Xenuria
Quote:In retrospect, I shouldnGÇÖt have showered with those kids. -Xenuria |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:55:00 -
[285] - Quote
Largo Coronet wrote:"Quoting ancient philosophers over a video game makes you look like a pretentious spergy douchebag." - Largo Coronet That's very true.
Amazing!
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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
50
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 20:11:00 -
[286] - Quote
So what's your platform? What changes do you think should be made to the game?
I apologize if it's burried somewhere in the 15 pages of text here but I skimmed it and most of the stuff was just banter. |

testobjekt
Creative Accounting Institute
50
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 20:23:00 -
[287] - Quote
Juicy Chanlin wrote:So what's your platform? What changes do you think should be made to the game?
I apologize if it's burried somewhere in the 15 pages of text here but I skimmed it and most of the stuff was just banter.
You dont know what is plattform is?
It seems you are not able to understand English in written form. I would encourage you to seek help for that. If you are able, you probably should read his first post again. And once again after that. Maybe ask your preschool teacher to help you understand his plattform. It is in there, you just have to understand more then a subject-verb-object sentence. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
|
Posted - 2012.02.12 21:23:00 -
[288] - Quote
testobjekt wrote:You dont know what is plattform is?
It seems you are not able to understand English in written form. I would encourage you to seek help for that. How did they manage to type out a couple o complete sentences, it's amazing.
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Militiam
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 00:50:00 -
[289] - Quote
I haven't posted in this thread yet. |

Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
60
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 01:10:00 -
[290] - Quote
testobjekt wrote:Juicy Chanlin wrote:So what's your platform? What changes do you think should be made to the game?
I apologize if it's burried somewhere in the 15 pages of text here but I skimmed it and most of the stuff was just banter. You dont know what is plattform is? It seems you are not able to understand English in written form. I would encourage you to seek help for that. If you are able, you probably should read his first post again. And once again after that. Maybe ask your preschool teacher to help you understand his plattform. It is in there, you just have to understand more then a subject-verb-object sentence.
I do understand english my learned friend.. However, his first post. just stated.
" If you think that virtual pants are more important than spaceships, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
If you think that wardecs and PvP should be consensual, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
If you think that T2 BPO lottery was a good idea, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
If you think that EVE should be made GÇÿsafeGÇÖ from scamming and griefing, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
If you think that suicide ganking should be banned, I donGÇÖt want your vote. In fact, tell me where you hang out, so I can drop a Brutix on you.
If GÇ£warGÇ¥, GÇ£murderGÇ¥ and GÇ£conquestGÇ¥ are naughty words that scare you, I donGÇÖt want your vote."
now I don't know about you.. but to me.. that doesn't tell me what he plans on doing as a CSM and as chairman. It's a nice catch all since at least half the player community likes those statements, but a platform for running it is not. |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1584
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 01:13:00 -
[291] - Quote
Mittens is a little more subtle than the average Eve mouthbreather. It's not surprising that you can't figure out what he stands for. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
82
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 01:58:00 -
[292] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Mittens is a little more subtle than the average Eve mouthbreather. It's not surprising that you can't figure out what he stands for. Not to mention you obviously haven't kept up with the CSM until now.
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |

Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
60
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 03:01:00 -
[293] - Quote
Syndic Thrass wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Mittens is a little more subtle than the average Eve mouthbreather. It's not surprising that you can't figure out what he stands for. Not to mention you obviously haven't kept up with the CSM until now.
You are right. No I haven't.. Hence why I'm asking.. |

Osabojo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
120
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 03:39:00 -
[294] - Quote
The CSM does not have any actual power and can only provide feedback to CCP or make suggestions to CCP, so any candidate with a specific list of things they will do is delusional or deluding you.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
117
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 05:30:00 -
[295] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Mittens is a little more subtle than the average Eve mouthbreather. It's not surprising that you can't figure out what he stands for. I think I see what you're getting at.
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Audie Ryan
Tri-gun Psychotic Tendencies.
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 07:06:00 -
[296] - Quote
How do you feel about tech moons ? and force projection?
Do u think it should be as easy as it is now to move capital fleets across eve? |

Rei Seiji
Production N Destruction INC. The Last Chancers.
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 07:26:00 -
[297] - Quote
The Goonies leader actually needs votes? I always figured he'd automatically win his spot thanks to his hordes of loyal minions. |

Major Spag
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
97
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 07:33:00 -
[298] - Quote
Rei Seiji wrote:The Goonies leader actually needs votes? I always figured he'd automatically win his spot thanks to his hordes of loyal minions.
A mouthbreathing ****** actually posting badly? I always figured they automatically shitpost to themselves because they don't really have friends! |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4662
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 07:52:00 -
[299] - Quote
Audie Ryan wrote:How do you feel about tech moons ? and force projection?
Do u think it should be as easy as it is now to move capital fleets across eve?
I'm already on the record supporting a jump spool-up timer as a nerf to capital force projection, and have likewise fought for tech moons being nerfed/rebalanced. You shouldn't be able to bounce a gigantic titan blob from one end of the galaxy to the other with a cyno net and five minutes of prep time.
Edit: "On the record" means "have actively fought for these positions at CSM summits this year." See the minutes. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
348
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 07:55:00 -
[300] - Quote
Major Spag wrote:Rei Seiji wrote:The Goonies leader actually needs votes? I always figured he'd automatically win his spot thanks to his hordes of loyal minions. A mouthbreathing ****** actually posting badly? I always figured they automatically shitpost to themselves because they don't really have friends!
This forum is just another AIM bot to them. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
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Rei Seiji
Production N Destruction INC. The Last Chancers.
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 08:28:00 -
[301] - Quote
Major Spag wrote:Rei Seiji wrote:The Goonies leader actually needs votes? I always figured he'd automatically win his spot thanks to his hordes of loyal minions. A mouthbreathing ****** actually posting badly? I always figured they automatically shitpost to themselves because they don't really have friends!
Touched a nerve there, hm? So tell me, do all Goonies care about respiration, or is it just a personal interest for you? |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1593
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 09:06:00 -
[302] - Quote
Some of my best friends are posts. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Aiifa
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
6
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Posted - 2012.02.13 10:15:00 -
[303] - Quote
Juicy Chanlin wrote:testobjekt wrote:Juicy Chanlin wrote:So what's your platform? What changes do you think should be made to the game?
I apologize if it's burried somewhere in the 15 pages of text here but I skimmed it and most of the stuff was just banter. You dont know what is plattform is? It seems you are not able to understand English in written form. I would encourage you to seek help for that. If you are able, you probably should read his first post again. And once again after that. Maybe ask your preschool teacher to help you understand his plattform. It is in there, you just have to understand more then a subject-verb-object sentence. I do understand english my learned friend.. However, his first post. just stated. " If you think that virtual pants are more important than spaceships, I donGÇÖt want your vote. If you think that wardecs and PvP should be consensual, I donGÇÖt want your vote. If you think that T2 BPO lottery was a good idea, I donGÇÖt want your vote. If you think that EVE should be made GÇÿsafeGÇÖ from scamming and griefing, I donGÇÖt want your vote. If you think that suicide ganking should be banned, I donGÇÖt want your vote. In fact, tell me where you hang out, so I can drop a Brutix on you. If GÇ£warGÇ¥, GÇ£murderGÇ¥ and GÇ£conquestGÇ¥ are naughty words that scare you, I donGÇÖt want your vote." now I don't know about you.. but to me.. that doesn't tell me what he plans on doing as a CSM and as chairman. It's a nice catch all since at least half the player community likes those statements, but a platform for running it is not.
Chairman fo lyfe and all that: Mittens doesn't need to provide a platform any more; he can get in on weaponized :smug: provided by the majority goon wannabes who like the gameplay that they think will make other people cry. Not that he isn't the best choice and worthy of everyone's vote.
I'd like to hear him express some preferences for change however.
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Captain Jazzmag
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.02.13 10:21:00 -
[304] - Quote
Hey Mittani, more of a question of ethics in EVE than mechanics of EVE which I think the CSM needs to tackle.
What are you going to do about the general level of racism or at least casual use of racist language in EVE? Its now become socially acceptable in EVE to be derogatory towards Jews and its starting to become acceptable to racially abuse people and use derogatory racist language in general, in game chat without any sort of punishment.
It certainly doesn't do much for the image of the game when fleets of people in Null Sec are being asked by the FC to type "N" then "igger" in local chat during fleet fights, in order to circumvent the chat usage policy of CCP. No names of any sort mentioned but I don't think I need to.
I do think CSM 6 was the best CSM yet and certainly enjoyed the fruits of it but I don't think the level of racist language (and anti-semetic) by players in public channels (well any channels but each to their own) does anything for the game, CCP or the players. It certainly made me question which backwards thinking people I'm playing EVE with.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
348
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 10:28:00 -
[305] - Quote
So there is an all black fleet going around calling each other N iggers, that is common among what they do. Lets not go around getting angry at differences and such. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
348
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Posted - 2012.02.13 10:46:00 -
[306] - Quote
Captain Jazzmag wrote:Hey Mittani,
What are you going to do about the Jews and "N"igger" in local chat during fleet fights,
I do think CSM 6 was the best CSM yet and certainly enjoyed level of racist language (and anti-semetic) by players in public channels. It certainly made me thinking people I'm playing EVE with.
Wow sir, that is intense. I do hope your problems are helped with. Good game. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Captain Jazzmag
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 10:46:00 -
[307] - Quote
Reported to CCP. Added to my ignore list.
Hope whatever insecurity issues you have can get solved.
rodyas wrote:So there is an all black fleet going around calling each other N iggers.
Unlikely. I don't believe its common to X up in fleet with your racial heritage before setting out. In examples I could cite, its certainly not been a requirement.
rodyas wrote: that is common among what they do.
Thanks for proving a point.  |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
65
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 10:53:00 -
[308] - Quote
Captain Jazzmag wrote:Hey Mittani, more of a question of ethics in EVE than mechanics of EVE which I think the CSM needs to tackle.
What are you going to do about the general level of racism or at least casual use of racist language in EVE? Its now become socially acceptable in EVE to be derogatory towards Jews and its starting to become acceptable to racially abuse people and use derogatory racist language in general, in game chat without any sort of punishment.
It certainly doesn't do much for the image of the game when fleets of people in Null Sec are being asked by the FC to type "N" then "igger" in local chat during fleet fights, in order to circumvent the chat usage policy of CCP. No names of any sort mentioned but I don't think I need to.
I do think CSM 6 was the best CSM yet and certainly enjoyed the fruits of it but I don't think the level of racist language (and anti-semetic) by players in public channels (well any channels but each to their own) does anything for the game, CCP or the players. It certainly made me question which backwards thinking people I'm playing EVE with.
Yeah, a lot of Americans and English people in general are very abusive sometimes. The hate against anyone Russian is also very strong, blacks, jews and Russians in particular are targeted a lot for abuse in this game. It reminds me a lot of many Americans and British people on Xbox live. Not sure what he can do about it? I suppose he can start by making sure goon mumble members not have swastikas as their profile pic? and also ensure goons members do not scream f'ing jew and the N word in local and such. At least then he sets an example and more can follow perhaps.
PS: For the record, there are blacks, jews, Russians and nice Americans as well as British people within the goons. Don't misunderstand me. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
348
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Posted - 2012.02.13 11:00:00 -
[309] - Quote
Yeah its always the white people.
Also its not a requirement, but its common for racial corp and some alliances to exist.
Were both reported? or just one? and which one? Trying to figure our what I did wrong. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
65
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 11:03:00 -
[310] - Quote
rodyas wrote:Yeah its always the white people.
Also its not a requirement, but its common for racial corp and some alliances to exist.
Were both reported? or just one? and which one? Trying to figure our what I did wrong.
"Yeah its always the white people"
What does that mean? I am white! |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2044
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 11:16:00 -
[311] - Quote
I think racist language in chat channels is something you'd want to address with the GMs rather than the CSM. yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Captain Jazzmag
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 11:20:00 -
[312] - Quote
2bhammered wrote:
Yeah, a lot of Americans and English people in general are very abusive sometimes. The hate against anyone Russian is also very strong, blacks, jews and Russians in particular are targeted a lot for abuse in this game. It reminds me a lot of many Americans and British people on Xbox live. Not sure what he can do about it? I suppose he can start by making sure goon mumble members not have swastikas as their profile pic? and also ensure goons members do not scream f'ing jew and the N word in local and such. At least then he sets an example and more can follow perhaps.
PS: For the record, there are blacks, jews, Russians and nice Americans as well as British people within the goons. Don't misunderstand me.
I didn't mention goons specifically because its not just the goons and I'm not meaning to isolate them or single them out because its a general issue in EVE. This is in no way meant as an attack on Goons.
You can go into many systems in EVE, chat channels and fleets and experience a general level of language that isn't acceptable in the rest of society.
What can Mittani do about it? I'm not 100% sure either but then I wouldn't asking this question to him if he had stated already what his take on this is, and if he's willing to use his position as CSM Chairman to do something about it.
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Captain Jazzmag
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 11:22:00 -
[313] - Quote
Andski wrote:I think racist language in chat channels is something you'd want to address with the GMs rather than the CSM.
Yes, I agree, which is part of the problem. However the GM's seem to be pretty much impotent when it comes to this. |

Uppsy Daisy
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
72
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 11:23:00 -
[314] - Quote
Well, after 16 pages of fawning over the 'great CEO' (I feel sick) maybe its time to actually ask some serious questions instead of just voting with your eyes closed.
So Mittens, great job on the last chairmanship. You really did do a great job!
So your platform is to:
- Keep internet spaceships as the focus - Keep unconsensual pvp - Keep not doing T2 BPO Lotteries - Keep scamming and griefing - Keep suicide ganking
I certainly agree with all of those pretty wholeheartedly - but this really isn't much change. This is how the game is already.
Please tell us some of the things you'd like to see changing during the next CSM term.
Secondly, although I love the visceral nature of EvE and totally agree that non-consensual pvp must remain a key part of it, I do think that it is too difficult for new starters to get into pvp.
What is your opinion on this? Do you think EvE should have a better mechanism for getting new starters into pvp? Or do you think that this is just self-selection at work, and those that do like it shouldn't be here anyway?
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
350
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Posted - 2012.02.13 11:34:00 -
[315] - Quote
Wow Captain jazz, Looks like somone skipped your post since it was just more fawning to the CEO. She is asain as well. Is that racism? (or anti-semantic) Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
295
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 11:43:00 -
[316] - Quote
There should be a limit to how many times you get re-elected. Xenuria for CSM |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
350
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 11:44:00 -
[317] - Quote
Tell that to the person who was on CSM 2,3,4,5,6. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Captain Jazzmag
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 11:45:00 -
[318] - Quote
rodyas wrote:Wow Captain jazz, Looks like somone skipped your post since it was just more fawning to the CEO. She is asain as well. Is that racism? (or anti-semantic)
Do you have anything of value to add? Maybe CCP should come in here and remove more than your signature because you're not adding anything of value to this discussion. You're just coming across as some 13 year old with nothing better to do than spam forums and try to get noticed.
And I'm not sure what "asain". I don't think I want to be enlightened either. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
350
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 11:49:00 -
[319] - Quote
Dont be afraid of enlightenment, That is called a mispelling and shouldnt be drastically feared.
Remove what? My officer shirt? Not fit for unlisted rank? Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
65
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 11:54:00 -
[320] - Quote
Captain Jazzmag wrote:2bhammered wrote:
Yeah, a lot of Americans and English people in general are very abusive sometimes. The hate against anyone Russian is also very strong, blacks, jews and Russians in particular are targeted a lot for abuse in this game. It reminds me a lot of many Americans and British people on Xbox live. Not sure what he can do about it? I suppose he can start by making sure goon mumble members not have swastikas as their profile pic? and also ensure goons members do not scream f'ing jew and the N word in local and such. At least then he sets an example and more can follow perhaps.
PS: For the record, there are blacks, jews, Russians and nice Americans as well as British people within the goons. Don't misunderstand me.
I didn't mention goons specifically because its not just the goons and I'm not meaning to isolate them or single them out because its a general issue in EVE. This is in no way meant as an attack on Goons. You can go into many systems in EVE, chat channels and fleets and experience a general level of language that isn't acceptable in the rest of society. What can Mittani do about it? I'm not 100% sure either but then I wouldn't asking this question to him if he had stated already what his take on this is, and if he's willing to use his position as CSM Chairman to do something about it.
"I didn't mention goons specifically"
Well I did and I think your question is a good one. But I honestly can't think of anything he can do other than police his own corp and alliance and lead by example. Which in my experience is needed and I hope you and everyone else get an answer to this.
But overall it is the responsibility of CCP to deal with these type of situations, perhaps they need to improve a lot. I suppose that is something the CSM could bring up when speaking with the GM's etc. To enforce policy against abuse and racism better than today. |
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Quingar
Yacht Club. Cascade Associates
1
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:00:00 -
[321] - Quote
-1 from me
I will not vote for you as Chairman.
As a regular CSM member yes but not as a chairman. |

Vayna Miychovich
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:02:00 -
[322] - Quote
Donau wrote:My Chairman My Vote
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Valearx
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 12:33:00 -
[323] - Quote
Captain Jazzmag wrote:Andski wrote:I think racist language in chat channels is something you'd want to address with the GMs rather than the CSM. Yes, I agree, which is part of the problem. However the GM's seem to be pretty much impotent when it comes to this.
I think you confuse impotency for policy. This is a game where players are encouraged to steal/scam/be as piratical or paragon as we want. I imagine that name-calling is pretty low down the priority list given the amount of skulduggery that goes on, and the inevitable strings of pubbie expletives directed at the robber/scammer that follow. Bans are still handed out when GMs deem it necessary. As Bannedski said, its a matter for the GMs not the CSM. If you don't like what's being said in local, petition it and wait for a response, ignore it, minimize it or go somewhere else. If fleetcoms offend you, then maybe its time you found another corp/alliance. EVE's uniqueness lies in the sandbox and the freedom given to its players, and that's what separates it from other MMOs (all of which coincidentally impose stringent chat regulations vOv). |

stupid monkey
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
1
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:55:00 -
[324] - Quote
gots my vote and all my alts votes.. |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
625
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 12:56:00 -
[325] - Quote
stupid monkey wrote:gots my vote and all my alts votes..
no no no no stupid monkey - vote for your simian kin
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Captain Jazzmag
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:16:00 -
[326] - Quote
Valearx wrote:Captain Jazzmag wrote:Andski wrote:I think racist language in chat channels is something you'd want to address with the GMs rather than the CSM. Yes, I agree, which is part of the problem. However the GM's seem to be pretty much impotent when it comes to this. I think you confuse impotency for policy. This is a game where players are encouraged to steal/scam/be as piratical or paragon as we want. I imagine that name-calling is pretty low down the priority list given the amount of skulduggery that goes on, and the inevitable strings of pubbie expletives directed at the robber/scammer that follow. Bans are still handed out when GMs deem it necessary. As Bannedski said, its a matter for the GMs not the CSM. If you don't like what's being said in local, petition it and wait for a response, ignore it, minimize it or go somewhere else. If fleetcoms offend you, then maybe its time you found another corp/alliance. EVE's uniqueness lies in the sandbox and the freedom given to its players, and that's what separates it from other MMOs (all of which coincidentally impose stringent chat regulations vOv).
Policy is to ban from local for a number of hours if certain things are said but as I stated, its more widespread and its not enforced, its easily circumvented.
In my example, when a fleet of 300 people is asked to write "N" "igger" to specifically avoid CCP's policy don't you think that is a problem? That isn't scamming, or cheating people out of ISK, that isn't any form of meta game, its not the sandbox, its not even in game 'acceptable' greifing, its just casual racism en masse.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not some up tight guy who is all about political correctness but there are limits.
This is why I think its a CSM issue. Its generally accepted that in EVE you can be a racist bigot. Not an in character one (don't tell me they're in character!) but just one in general. |

SMT008
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
356
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:16:00 -
[327] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:There should be a limit to how many times you get re-elected.
There should be a limit to how mad you can get.
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doombreed52
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:27:00 -
[328] - Quote
SMT008 wrote:Xenuria wrote:There should be a limit to how many times you get re-elected. There should be a limit to how mad you can get.
i think he doesnt like mitttens becuase we arent walking in stations....id like to when they fix other crap first. maybe. and the fact he hates that mittins is well liked even by enemies. |

wallenbergaren
University of Caille Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:44:00 -
[329] - Quote
Maybe this has been answered, but I know you're probably the most outspoken against supercaps out of the people running for CSM, so I'm wondering what your ideas are for fixing the problem permanently. Not just another band aid that postpones the inevitable as supercap numbers keep growing year over year. They must have a role that allows them to function even if there's 15000 of them ingame. |

Agnostos Theos
Southern Cross Trilogy Flying Dangerous
0
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:27:00 -
[330] - Quote
Hey Mittani,
Can't pretend that I like you much so I won't try. Knowing myself to be the anti-social bastard I am, that means little to nothing. I do respect what you've managed to achieve both in the game and in the CSM. As you yourself have exclaimed on a number of accasions, in those rare rational moments that you're not playing the egomanical meglamaniac, it IS the co-ordinated efforts of many people that have brought you as far as you've come. Now that the CSM has been shown to have a bit of relavance (apearances can be decieving and no-one will ever know if this apearance is more thanx to the CSM crying out against obviously disastrous mistakes by CCP and simply predicting a course of action CCP obviously had to take or whether the CSM actually played a part in guiding those actions.) it apears a number of factions with real agendas are lobbying to become part of the process. This is all well and good and part of politics. What worries me is the number of 'personalities' arrising out of the ranks that seem more interested in tearing down each-others reputations then they are in providing any real input towards the future of EVE. Given that the next CSM is unlikely to be as polarised in it's goals nor (hopefully) will it have such tremendous idiocy on the part of CCP to argue against, how do you plan to work with a group which (from observation of many currently running platforms) are ellected to the CSM with the sole purpose of being there to annoy the **** out of you ? Whilst everyone, myself included, might get a laugh out of thinking about what the CSM would be like with Mitt and Riv forever playing who's got the biggest ego and the most influence, I hate to see the CSM become as irrelivant as it once was simply because some clever word-smiths can't help but play juvenille games against each-other rather then look at the game they SHOULD be trying to protect and guide. I've addressed this to you Mitt because if you don't make it to CSM then something, somewhere has seriously ****** up and I'll be surprised if you don't hold the chair. I used Riv as an example only because of the mutual animosity between your factions. In reality I'd like to see all the potential candidates veiws on how they intend to work with their fellow CSM members....
Sincerely AT |
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Valearx
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:02:00 -
[331] - Quote
Captain Jazzmag wrote:Valearx wrote:Captain Jazzmag wrote:Andski wrote:I think racist language in chat channels is something you'd want to address with the GMs rather than the CSM. Yes, I agree, which is part of the problem. However the GM's seem to be pretty much impotent when it comes to this. I think you confuse impotency for policy. This is a game where players are encouraged to steal/scam/be as piratical or paragon as we want. I imagine that name-calling is pretty low down the priority list given the amount of skulduggery that goes on, and the inevitable strings of pubbie expletives directed at the robber/scammer that follow. Bans are still handed out when GMs deem it necessary. As Bannedski said, its a matter for the GMs not the CSM. If you don't like what's being said in local, petition it and wait for a response, ignore it, minimize it or go somewhere else. If fleetcoms offend you, then maybe its time you found another corp/alliance. EVE's uniqueness lies in the sandbox and the freedom given to its players, and that's what separates it from other MMOs (all of which coincidentally impose stringent chat regulations vOv). Policy is to ban from local for a number of hours if certain things are said but as I stated, its more widespread and its not enforced, its easily circumvented. In my example, when a fleet of 300 people is asked to write "N" "igger" to specifically avoid CCP's policy don't you think that is a problem? That isn't scamming, or cheating people out of ISK, that isn't any form of meta game, its not the sandbox, its not even in game 'acceptable' greifing, its just casual racism en masse.Don't get me wrong, I'm not some up tight guy who is all about political correctness but there are limits. This is why I think its a CSM issue. Its generally accepted that in EVE you can be a racist bigot. Not an in character one (don't tell me they're in character!) but just one in general.
And there you have it. Casual racism isn't limited to EVE and for the most part its light-hearted with the intent of annoying anyone who finds it distasteful. The internet isn't suddenly going to change its spots simply because CCP orders it to do so, and the increase in hours spent by GMs enforcing the associated warnings/bans would be phenomenal.
Once again, this is a matter for Customer Service, not the CSM. If you stumble upon a fleet fight and suddenly local fills up with stuff that you deem offensive, by all means petition it, but don't ask the CSM to waste their time on it - time that they and 99.99% of EVE would much rather be spent on improving content and gameplay.
Vote Mittani |

Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:17:00 -
[332] - Quote
+1 Allow us to change characters of the same account without the need to logout and put the password again. |

Major Spag
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
97
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:43:00 -
[333] - Quote
Rei Seiji wrote:Major Spag wrote:Rei Seiji wrote:The Goonies leader actually needs votes? I always figured he'd automatically win his spot thanks to his hordes of loyal minions. A mouthbreathing ****** actually posting badly? I always figured they automatically shitpost to themselves because they don't really have friends! Touched a nerve there, hm? So tell me, do all Goonies care about respiration, or is it just a personal interest for you?
You should keep posting. Your insightful comments are highly sought after and provides the community with wisdom that will span ages.
I am so mad at your internet forum post. Hella mad. I should go rant about it on another forum and talk about how mad you have made me. |

Courthouse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:45:00 -
[334] - Quote
Rei, you should see how mad he's posting about you on goonfleet.com |

Captain Jazzmag
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 16:07:00 -
[335] - Quote
Valearx wrote:Captain Jazzmag wrote:Valearx wrote:Captain Jazzmag wrote:Andski wrote:I think racist language in chat channels is something you'd want to address with the GMs rather than the CSM. Yes, I agree, which is part of the problem. However the GM's seem to be pretty much impotent when it comes to this. I think you confuse impotency for policy. This is a game where players are encouraged to steal/scam/be as piratical or paragon as we want. I imagine that name-calling is pretty low down the priority list given the amount of skulduggery that goes on, and the inevitable strings of pubbie expletives directed at the robber/scammer that follow. Bans are still handed out when GMs deem it necessary. As Bannedski said, its a matter for the GMs not the CSM. If you don't like what's being said in local, petition it and wait for a response, ignore it, minimize it or go somewhere else. If fleetcoms offend you, then maybe its time you found another corp/alliance. EVE's uniqueness lies in the sandbox and the freedom given to its players, and that's what separates it from other MMOs (all of which coincidentally impose stringent chat regulations vOv). Policy is to ban from local for a number of hours if certain things are said but as I stated, its more widespread and its not enforced, its easily circumvented. In my example, when a fleet of 300 people is asked to write "N" "igger" to specifically avoid CCP's policy don't you think that is a problem? That isn't scamming, or cheating people out of ISK, that isn't any form of meta game, its not the sandbox, its not even in game 'acceptable' greifing, its just casual racism en masse.Don't get me wrong, I'm not some up tight guy who is all about political correctness but there are limits. This is why I think its a CSM issue. Its generally accepted that in EVE you can be a racist bigot. Not an in character one (don't tell me they're in character!) but just one in general. And there you have it. Casual racism isn't limited to EVE and for the most part its light-hearted with the intent of annoying anyone who finds it distasteful. The internet isn't suddenly going to change its spots simply because CCP orders it to do so, and the increase in hours spent by GMs enforcing the associated warnings/bans would be phenomenal. Once again, this is a matter for Customer Service, not the CSM. If you stumble upon a fleet fight and suddenly local fills up with stuff that you deem offensive, by all means petition it, but don't ask the CSM to waste their time on it - time that they and 99.99% of EVE would much rather be spent on improving content and gameplay. Vote Mittani
So CCP or the CSM shouldn't take a stand on it? So its OK to be abusive about someone's ethnic background because other people on the internet might do it? Slippery slope from a number of angles no?
I'm well within my CCP allotted right to ask a prospective CSM member there take on this and if it might be something they'll bring up with CCP. I'd like Mittani's take on it, not someone from his alliance. I can do that on Goons Jabber or Mumble.
Also it doesn't have to take up allot of CCP's time, there's plenty of ways to skin a cat. CCP already has the ability to monitor chat/local logs for instance.
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Courthouse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.02.13 16:13:00 -
[336] - Quote
hey, play eve how you want and stop being judgemental towards people who are different. if you don't like naughty words, there are lots of family-friendly groups to play with. it's not our job to be the pottymouth police, especially in 3rd party applications that CCP has no control over. |

Macharion Thelgamor
The Hippies The Bohemians
0
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Posted - 2012.02.13 16:48:00 -
[337] - Quote
Thanks in no small part to CSM 6 and its chairman who collectively helped prevent this great universe we inhabit slump into a terminal failure cascade of it's own doing, this once disillusioned and resigned pilot who turned his back on Incarna returned in Crucible to find EvE heading back onto a path which once made it so enjoyable.
A successful political wartime campaign fought on behalf of all pilots active or otherwise garnered great and positive change. The reward should be another year as chairman to effect a consolidation process and will reveal whether, in what will hopefully be a less turbulent year for EvE itself, the CSM can maintain the relevance it's rightly earned and find ways to improve our collective experience, with particular reference to FIS - let's see it remain a key focus for the year to come! |

Phigmeta
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
21
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Posted - 2012.02.13 16:49:00 -
[338] - Quote
Captain Jazzmag wrote:Reported to CCP. Added to my ignore list. Hope whatever insecurity issues you have can get solved. rodyas wrote:So there is an all black fleet going around calling each other N iggers. Unlikely. I don't believe its common to X up in fleet with your racial heritage before setting out. In examples I could cite, its certainly not been a requirement. rodyas wrote: that is common among what they do. Thanks for proving a point. 
OH please god not the thought police.
OK let me give you a little story, I have been crowned "the Offical Jew" in SMA. Couple of reasons actually but mostly because i can spit out the profit margins of about anything the alliance does with a quickness. (that and i have been known to loot an active battlefield) Are my alliance members being racist towards me ....
... well no because I am actually jewish for one. Does this mean that they are planning a hatemongering campaign?
BTW I am russian jewish in heritage so .... i geuss i should hate all them "mericanz" or something.
I have lived all over the world and broken bread with many of the "average folk" (though most of them are not in the least bit average) and i have learned one thing that seems to hold true.
The people whom are most bothered by "racist" words are the same people that would lose thier marbles if thier daughter was to date someone who is "not like them" I think its the part of them they hate to admit so they cover it up with public outcry when they hear someone saying what they have themselves been thinking. |

doombreed52
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
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Posted - 2012.02.13 18:41:00 -
[339] - Quote
in short to what was said above.
either grow up and deal with it or get out. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4706
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Posted - 2012.02.13 19:00:00 -
[340] - Quote
Captain Jazzmag wrote:Hey Mittani, more of a question of ethics in EVE than mechanics of EVE which I think the CSM needs to tackle.
What are you going to do about the general level of racism or at least casual use of racist language in EVE? Its now become socially acceptable in EVE to be derogatory towards Jews and its starting to become acceptable to racially abuse people and use derogatory racist language in general, in game chat without any sort of punishment.
It certainly doesn't do much for the image of the game when fleets of people in Null Sec are being asked by the FC to type "N" then "igger" in local chat during fleet fights, in order to circumvent the chat usage policy of CCP. No names of any sort mentioned but I don't think I need to.
I do think CSM 6 was the best CSM yet and certainly enjoyed the fruits of it but I don't think the level of racist language (and anti-semetic) by players in public channels (well any channels but each to their own) does anything for the game, CCP or the players. It certainly made me question which backwards thinking people I'm playing EVE with.
The CSM isn't CCP's cop, any more than an alliance leader is an unpaid GM. The playerbase of eve is almost comically racist and misogynistic, from an American perspective. In Europe it's apparently common and uncontroversial to speak openly of 'Jews', not to mention the Scandinavian lack of sensitivity on Things Racial. Because EVE is an international game you end up with a lot of delicate sensibilities being rubbed the wrong way.
Example: Americans think nothing of slagging on Germans for that whole World War 2 thing, but ~how dare~ you mention Germany in front of a German EVE player. An American will get offended at a racist joke that at Dutchman won't even blink at, between Zwarte Piet and the fact that TurboNegro is literally a popular metal band, but god forbid that you criticize every American's sovereign right to invade and bomb whoever the hell we feel like while stockpiling personal arms caches and making little pillow fortresses out of Bibles.
The point, dear NPC alt, is that everyone in this game is basically a jerk and is going to get butthurt about something. It's a culture-clash thing, not a CSM issue.
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4706
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Posted - 2012.02.13 19:12:00 -
[341] - Quote
Uppsy Daisy wrote:Well, after 16 pages of fawning over the 'great CEO' (I feel sick) maybe its time to actually ask some serious questions instead of just voting with your eyes closed.
How do you feel about 'roleplaying' that glorifies slavery, racism, and religious intolerance?
I feel sick.
Quote:So Mittens, great job on the last chairmanship. You really did do a great job!
I did, yes.
Quote:Please tell us some of the things you'd like to see changing during the next CSM term.
Well, before CSM7 takes office in April most of the work on the next expansion is likely to be done. Soundwave has mentioned in blogs/interviews that this will include a wardec/crimewatch revamp, as well as work on FW.
Most of my position discussion can be found in the Chairman's Office thread. With many of the sucking chest wounds patched with Crucible (DRINK), I'm now pushing for the infamous Modular POS proposal, the rebalancing of risk/reward in null, EAS ships being able to impact ewar immune ships, more iterative balance of 'forgotten' hulls, etc. A whole batch of things that the CSM pushed for are in the pipeline but not implemented yet, as well, such as new Rookie Ship models. These are not controversial positions; most of the white-hot controversy surrounded supercapital rebalancing a few months back.
Quote:Secondly, although I love the visceral nature of EvE and totally agree that non-consensual pvp must remain a key part of it, I do think that it is too difficult for new starters to get into pvp.
What is your opinion on this? Do you think EvE should have a better mechanism for getting new starters into pvp? Or do you think that this is just self-selection at work, and those that do like it shouldn't be here anyway?
It's actually very easy to get into PvP. We have pilots killing inside of three hours of installing the trial. A lot of people who 'want' to PvP don't actually want to - they make a bunch of self-imposed barriers to themselves actually doing it, then blame other people/the system for their lack of courage. There's newbie organizations that teach PvP outside of Goonswarm and TEST, too - Agony Unleashed, Eve Uni, etc.
Loss aversion is a powerful instinct. Most 'aspirational pvpers' want things handed to them on a platter; EVE PvP is difficult and if you're not willing to work to seek it out, it's easier to bleat excuses.
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4706
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Posted - 2012.02.13 19:23:00 -
[342] - Quote
wallenbergaren wrote:Maybe this has been answered, but I know you're probably the most outspoken against supercaps out of the people running for CSM, so I'm wondering what your ideas are for fixing the problem permanently. Not just another band aid that postpones the inevitable as supercap numbers keep growing year over year. They must have a role that allows them to function even if there's 15000 of them ingame.
I don't think there's a permanent solution. Supercapitals are CCP's Original Sin - actually, no, that's the T2 BPO Lottery.
Actually, no, it was hiring T20 in the first place.
Hrm.
Ok so: After hiring T20, who designed the T2 BPO Lottery and handed out Sabre BPOs, and after the Lottery itself, Supercapitals are CCP's 3rd biggest boo-boo. There's not going to be any grand solution that offers a permanent fix to the Supercapital Problem.
The /best/ solution is to bring supers into the normal gameplay dynamic of Rock/Paper/Scissors. Right now the only counter to a blob of supers is a bigger blob of supers. In other areas of gameplay, ship classes of various types counter one another: Abaddons counter Drake Blobs, Drake Blobs mess up an Alphafleet, Alphafleets kill Abaddons, Bombers murder all of the above, Hurricanes murder Bombers.
To address the lack of Rock/Paper/Scissors in Super-land, I support two things: a siege mode mechanic for Titans analagous to Dreads, which would significantly reduce their ability to blap newbies in afterburning rifters (this happens with alarming regularity) while leaving them a solid counter to massed capital blobs. Secondly, I'd like to see Electronic Attack Ships be able to impact Ewar Immune ships, so the neglected EAS can abruptly ruin a Titan's day by messing with the tracking of his guns. EAS are made of paper and can be killed by even a tiny escort of support ships - R/P/S balance.
I wish we could turn back time, kick the dev who thought Titans up in the nuts repeatedly, and have them Abruptly Never Exist. But we can't, and a lot of pilots have supercaps now as an endgame ship. Supers need to be given a narrow, defined role - anti-capital weapons - and stop being a one-size-fits-all solution to everything in EVE.
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4706
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Posted - 2012.02.13 19:30:00 -
[343] - Quote
Agnostos Theos wrote: What worries me is the number of 'personalities' arrising out of the ranks that seem more interested in tearing down each-others reputations then they are in providing any real input towards the future of EVE. Given that the next CSM is unlikely to be as polarised in it's goals nor (hopefully) will it have such tremendous idiocy on the part of CCP to argue against, how do you plan to work with a group which (from observation of many currently running platforms) are ellected to the CSM with the sole purpose of being there to annoy the **** out of you ? Whilst everyone, myself included, might get a laugh out of thinking about what the CSM would be like with Mitt and Riv forever playing who's got the biggest ego and the most influence, I hate to see the CSM become as irrelivant as it once was simply because some clever word-smiths can't help but play juvenille games against each-other rather then look at the game they SHOULD be trying to protect and guide. I've addressed this to you Mitt because if you don't make it to CSM then something, somewhere has seriously ****** up and I'll be surprised if you don't hold the chair. I used Riv as an example only because of the mutual animosity between your factions. In reality I'd like to see all the potential candidates veiws on how they intend to work with their fellow CSM members....
Sincerely AT
I've been keeping a close eye on the actual levels of support for each candidate, compared to their perceived support. So far it looks like it's going to be a good crew in the top 14. I've been staying above the fray because the biggest competition is for slots 6 and 7, as well as the long tail of 13/14. Candidates like Riverini and Xenuria are jokes, and they've been put on the ballot with 100 likes just to splinter the ballot/protest the use of +likes as a nomination method.
I'm confident that I can make CSM7 a functional entity, just as CSM6. If I can get along with Trebor and find common ground, I can do so with anyone.
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4713
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Posted - 2012.02.13 19:32:00 -
[344] - Quote
Macharion Thelgamor wrote:Thanks in no small part to CSM 6 and its chairman who collectively helped prevent this great universe we inhabit slump into a terminal failure cascade of it's own doing, this once disillusioned and resigned pilot who turned his back on Incarna returned in Crucible to find EvE heading back onto a path which once made it so enjoyable.
A successful political wartime campaign fought on behalf of all pilots active or otherwise garnered great and positive change. The reward should be another year as chairman to effect a consolidation process and will reveal whether, in what will hopefully be a less turbulent year for EvE itself, the CSM can maintain the relevance it's rightly earned and find ways to improve our collective experience, with particular reference to FIS - let's see it remain a key focus for the year to come!
I do expect CSM7 to be a lot easier than CSM6. There should be no more Incarna war; most of the parties involved with Incarna or the NeX aren't with the company after the 20% purge. Ideally I'll be able to settle into something of a caretaker role and just make sure that nothing ******** happens, like CSM5's jump bridges moment. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
402
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Posted - 2012.02.13 19:33:00 -
[345] - Quote
killstealing approves (+1) |

ORJI
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
3
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Posted - 2012.02.13 20:05:00 -
[346] - Quote
+1
Good luck bro and great job with CSM6. |

Prometheus Exenthal
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
303
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Posted - 2012.02.13 20:15:00 -
[347] - Quote
Despite the public persona and not really *needing* your votes, Mittens is actually a pretty chill dude and doesn't speak on things he has limited knowledge about. I didin't mind him being a chair before, and I wouldn't again. CSM Candidate & PVP Samurai RE-ELECT PROM4CSM7 www.promsrage.com |

tewkz
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
19
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Posted - 2012.02.13 20:26:00 -
[348] - Quote
Prometheus Exenthal wrote:Despite the public persona and not really *needing* your votes, Mittens is actually a pretty chill dude and doesn't speak on things he has limited knowledge about. I didin't mind him being a chair before, and I wouldn't again.
Hmm. I'm blue with mittani and I mean, **** all HYDRAS. It's telling that someone from an alliance I wouldn't mind seeing fall apart supports the same candidate as me. |

SkiD-MaRk
DEAD-ON
7
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Posted - 2012.02.13 23:24:00 -
[349] - Quote
Got my vote. Dont agree on everything. But you always seem to have a decent grasp on what you bring too the table. That is more then I have seen in all the rest but one other.
+1 |

Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.13 23:27:00 -
[350] - Quote
You're forgetting that he understands basic human interaction too! I've even seen it happen!
~My CEO~ for CSM 7 |
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4757
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Posted - 2012.02.13 23:46:00 -
[351] - Quote
The Mittani 2012: I've Known The Touch Of A Woman, At Least Once The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Uppsy Daisy
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2012.02.13 23:50:00 -
[352] - Quote
Quote:How do you feel about 'roleplaying' that glorifies slavery, racism, and religious intolerance?
I feel sick.
You know nothing about me. You think these guys are roleplaying?! They are licking a** and you know it.
Well, modesty was never a requirement, so fair enough.
Quote:Well, before CSM7 takes office in April most of the work on the next expansion is likely to be done. Soundwave has mentioned in blogs/interviews that this will include a wardec/crimewatch revamp, as well as work on FW.
Most of my position discussion can be found in the Chairman's Office thread. With many of the sucking chest wounds patched with Crucible (DRINK), I'm now pushing for the infamous Modular POS proposal, the rebalancing of risk/reward in null, EAS ships being able to impact ewar immune ships, more iterative balance of 'forgotten' hulls, etc. A whole batch of things that the CSM pushed for are in the pipeline but not implemented yet, as well, such as new Rookie Ship models. These are not controversial positions; most of the white-hot controversy surrounded supercapital rebalancing a few months back.
True that much of your opinions are in that thread, nice of you to restate them here though were more people might read them. Thanks for that.
Quote:It's actually very easy to get into PvP. We have pilots killing inside of three hours of installing the trial. A lot of people who 'want' to PvP don't actually want to - they make a bunch of self-imposed barriers to themselves actually doing it, then blame other people/the system for their lack of courage. There's newbie organizations that teach PvP outside of Goonswarm and TEST, too - Agony Unleashed, Eve Uni, etc.
Loss aversion is a powerful instinct. Most 'aspirational pvpers' want things handed to them on a platter; EVE PvP is difficult and if you're not willing to work to seek it out, it's easier to bleat excuses.
Here's where we disagree. It really is NOT easy to get into pvp in this game. It takes many people years.
Yes, Goons have pilots killing inside three hours. They have an amazing support network, community, reimbursement programme, etc. This is atypical.
I'm not staying that I want pvp to be easier, I just think that the game could do a much better job of making the learning curve a bit less vertical.
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4757
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Posted - 2012.02.13 23:52:00 -
[353] - Quote
Uppsy Daisy wrote: I'm not staying that I want pvp to be easier, I just think that the game could do a much better job of making the learning curve a bit less vertical.
To be fair, the same could be said of just about every aspect of the New Player Experience, or the game itself. The good news is that CSM7 will likely have a bunch of NPE-focused people with large newbie constituencies - myself, Dovinian, and Kelduum of Eve-Uni at the bare minimum.
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
465
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Posted - 2012.02.14 00:11:00 -
[354] - Quote
I might not like your alliance, but you made a damn good CSM chair. I'm not sure you'll actually have my first vote (Hans needs it for FW), but regardless, rock on! Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

Scevvin
Tri-gun Psychotic Tendencies.
2
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Posted - 2012.02.14 01:41:00 -
[355] - Quote
I am a fairly casual player who, before CSM6, didn't pay attention to what the CSM was, let alone who the Members were. The strongest point in The Mittani's re-election campaign is the presence he has created for the Council and voice he has given the players. In this last year, knowing who the Members were and how active and adamant they were in progress and change for EVE was very accessible information for the casual and the hardcore player. This is how it should be: a group of people dedicating their time to speak for the players; and, the players knowing that they are being spoken for. This is what has sold me in casting my vote for The Mittani's re-election.
There have been great changes to the game thus far; and, more to come I'm sure. |

EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
234
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Posted - 2012.02.14 04:40:00 -
[356] - Quote
stop killing my game you monster |

chumbucket
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:04:00 -
[357] - Quote
On a scale of 1-10 I put your shoddy sandbagger work as csm at a strong 3 the only thing you should be re-elected to do is clean the grease traps again at the Burger King you manage :) |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
787
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:13:00 -
[358] - Quote
chumbucket wrote:On a scale of 1-10 I put your shoddy sandbagger work as csm at a strong 3 the only thing you should be re-elected to do is clean the grease traps again at the Burger King you manage :)
Ill-informed and jealous.
Damn Mittens, you really have a talent at this. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4814
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:35:00 -
[359] - Quote
chumbucket wrote:On a scale of 1-10 I put your shoddy sandbagger work as csm at a strong 3 the only thing you should be re-elected to do is clean the grease traps again at the Burger King you manage :)
sorry about bulldozing your alliance in delve, it was for the best The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
354
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:51:00 -
[360] - Quote
Its always sad hearing how mom and pop burger shops always get put out of business, by the uber Burger King and McD's alliances. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
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Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:59:00 -
[361] - Quote
THIS is why I was avoiding this section of the forum...I KNEW I had a reason...
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

Courthouse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:04:00 -
[362] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:chumbucket wrote:On a scale of 1-10 I put your shoddy sandbagger work as csm at a strong 3 the only thing you should be re-elected to do is clean the grease traps again at the Burger King you manage :) sorry about bulldozing your alliance in delve, it was for the best Well, there was Geminate before that, too. Not that Brick/Majesta/Rage didn't represent the worst of the old NC, but they didn't really stand out for much else. |

chumbucket
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 07:27:00 -
[363] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:[quote=chumbucket]On a scale of 1-10 I put your shoddy sandbagger work as csm at a strong 3 the only thing you should be re-elected to do is clean the grease traps again at the Burger King you manage :)
Ill-informed and jealous.
Damn Mittens, you really have a talent at this. lol the only talent i saw was taking credit for others work
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Johan Krieger
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2012.02.14 07:38:00 -
[364] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:chumbucket wrote:On a scale of 1-10 I put your shoddy sandbagger work as csm at a strong 3 the only thing you should be re-elected to do is clean the grease traps again at the Burger King you manage :) sorry about bulldozing your alliance in delve, it was for the best
MY CEO~ :swoon: |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2050
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Posted - 2012.02.14 07:38:00 -
[365] - Quote
chumbucket wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:[quote=chumbucket]On a scale of 1-10 I put your shoddy sandbagger work as csm at a strong 3 the only thing you should be re-elected to do is clean the grease traps again at the Burger King you manage :) Ill-informed and jealous. Damn Mittens, you really have a talent at this. lol the only talent i saw was taking credit for others work
I see you have a knack for breaking quotes, m8 yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Johan Krieger
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2012.02.14 07:39:00 -
[366] - Quote
chumbucket wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:[quote=chumbucket]On a scale of 1-10 I put your shoddy sandbagger work as csm at a strong 3 the only thing you should be re-elected to do is clean the grease traps again at the Burger King you manage :) Ill-informed and jealous. Damn Mittens, you really have a talent at this. lol the only talent i saw was taking credit for others work
Others work? Like your dear leader Darius III? Oh wait, he's done nothing. I wonder who that could be...? |

Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.14 07:43:00 -
[367] - Quote
chumbucket wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:[quote=chumbucket]On a scale of 1-10 I put your shoddy sandbagger work as csm at a strong 3 the only thing you should be re-elected to do is clean the grease traps again at the Burger King you manage :) Ill-informed and jealous. Damn Mittens, you really have a talent at this. lol the only talent i saw was taking credit for others work
It's not a Burger King, it's a Hobby Lobby. |

Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.02.14 08:39:00 -
[368] - Quote
Vote Superior Comrade-in-Arms Mittani, Invincible and Ever-triumphant General, for Eternal Chairman of the CSM. Glorious Leader of Our Party and Our Nation! EVE is dead |

Tsubutai
The Tuskers
64
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Posted - 2012.02.14 08:59:00 -
[369] - Quote
As chairman, how do you feel about the prospect of working (and potentially, socialising) with an actual ...uh... "racial realist" and fan of David Duke? |

Tyslas
Tort Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.02.14 09:17:00 -
[370] - Quote
Yay Mittens! |
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Tyrion Struan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.14 09:34:00 -
[371] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Uppsy Daisy wrote: I'm not staying that I want pvp to be easier, I just think that the game could do a much better job of making the learning curve a bit less vertical.
To be fair, the same could be said of just about every aspect of the New Player Experience, or the game itself. The good news is that CSM7 will likely have a bunch of NPE-focused people with large newbie constituencies - myself, Dovinian, and Kelduum of Eve-Uni at the bare minimum.
On this, I am a new player that have benefitted from coming into this game by an alliance that actually put new players straight into nullsec. I only spent a few days in highsec, , but long enough to know that I probably wouldnGÇÖt have lasted my trial if IGÇÖd have had to train skills and spend the time that seems necessary in order to be considered by most nullsec alliances. So if it hadnGÇÖt been for the awesomeness and handholding provided by Goons, IGÇÖd have been gone. (IGÇÖm not trying to say that would have been a great loss. I do however swear, DBRB did ask for that bubble that caught all those blues. )
Could the game, for instance, benefit from tossing in an anom that was doable in a destroyer and one doable in a cruiser? I know this goes against what seems to be CCPs idea of starting the game in highsec, stay there for quite some time and then, maybe, venture into lowsec before taking the big leap into nullsec. But my premise is that that idea is bad, and cost the game players. Many of us donGÇÖt want that, we want to be able to get right into the fun part of the game right away and participate. Sod the patience thing, get more rifters into nullsec. The experienced players get more to shoot at, and weGÇÖll be badly fit with terrible skills, so itGÇÖs not like they wonGÇÖt already be at an advantage and harvest our killmails.
The hope would be that alliances that currently see new players as a liability (they are dumb) would recruit them. These new players would be using anoms that would otherwise be unused, and able to support themselves more easily. IGÇÖm not complaining for myself here, my newbee experience has been great, but that is because IGÇÖm a bee and get all the support that goes with it. Reading the recruitment stuff on these forums IGÇÖd like to see more alliances doing what we do, and with more stuff to do for new players requiring less hand holding they may see themselves as able to. T2 fit drakes of course isnGÇÖt that long of a train, but I think the game would benefit from an even quicker introduction into nullsec, and allowing for more than drakes as a new player ship would also be good. |

Collatinus Vedius
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 15:22:00 -
[372] - Quote
~my ceo~ |

KFenn
Percussive Diplomacy
156
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Posted - 2012.02.14 16:54:00 -
[373] - Quote
The Mittani for chairman 2012/13. Also President, King of the World and various other position of political prominence.
If nothing else he gets **** done. Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade SLAPD Director |

Kamteix
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 18:00:00 -
[374] - Quote
My CEO  |

Devilish Ledoux
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.02.14 18:02:00 -
[375] - Quote
Me, I'm voting for whoever Solo Drakban tells me to vote for; even if it's DBRB. |

Kelvan Hemanseh
Starwinders The Unwilling.
5
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Posted - 2012.02.14 18:37:00 -
[376] - Quote
Is Vile Rat not running this time? |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4902
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:20:00 -
[377] - Quote
Tsubutai wrote:As chairman, how do you feel about the prospect of working (and potentially, socialising) with an actual ...uh... "racial realist" and fan of David Duke?
Who's that? Not the autistic pedo or the Objectivst, or the obese, vaguely literate Panamanian?
It's so hard to keep track, this election. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:28:00 -
[378] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Tsubutai wrote:As chairman, how do you feel about the prospect of working (and potentially, socialising) with an actual ...uh... "racial realist" and fan of David Duke? Who's that? Not the autistic pedo or the Objectivst, or the obese, vaguely literate Panamanian? It's so hard to keep track, this election.
dis guy: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=800932#post800932 |

AfroOfDoom
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:54:00 -
[379] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:The Mittani wrote:Tsubutai wrote:As chairman, how do you feel about the prospect of working (and potentially, socialising) with an actual ...uh... "racial realist" and fan of David Duke? Who's that? Not the autistic pedo or the Objectivst, or the obese, vaguely literate Panamanian? It's so hard to keep track, this election. dis guy: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=800932#post800932
Just to avoid all doubt, Fon Revedhort voluntarily compares himself to the former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.
Wow. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:58:00 -
[380] - Quote
Now the hood in his character portrait takes on a whole new meaning. Maybe he'll push for the NeX to stock white ones. |
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Travis Wells
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
176
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:07:00 -
[381] - Quote
The ability to manage an alliance and coalition of so many people shows the kind of leader The Mittani is. You know where my votes are going. |

None ofthe Above
61
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:30:00 -
[382] - Quote
AfroOfDoom wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:The Mittani wrote:Tsubutai wrote:As chairman, how do you feel about the prospect of working (and potentially, socialising) with an actual ...uh... "racial realist" and fan of David Duke? Who's that? Not the autistic pedo or the Objectivst, or the obese, vaguely literate Panamanian? It's so hard to keep track, this election. dis guy: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=800932#post800932 Just to avoid all doubt, Fon Revedhort voluntarily compares himself to the former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. Wow.
Yeah, its also quite perplexing if he thought that would help his case. If not why the hell would he bring this up?
Tired of the current CSM? Vote for me, I am None ofthe Above! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=795254
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:34:00 -
[383] - Quote
None ofthe Above wrote:Yeah, its also quite perplexing if he thought that would help his case. If not why the hell would he bring this up?
Support of the *** (let alone that openly) isn't exactly a strong indicator of intelligence or the capacity for rational decision making.
in short: he's ******' duuumb |

Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
305
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:37:00 -
[384] - Quote
Mittani does spaghetti ever boil out of your pockets when you talk to girls? Xenuria for CSM |

Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
24
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:41:00 -
[385] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Mittani does spaghetti ever boil out of your pockets when you talk to girls? And yet you claim, and I paraphrase here, you "arent in fact a meme spouting moron". |

doombreed52
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:24:00 -
[386] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Mittani does spaghetti ever boil out of your pockets when you talk to girls?
leave. dont let the door hit you on the way out i dont want to have to clean the door of the smell of ass. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:30:00 -
[387] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Mittani does spaghetti ever boil out of your pockets when you talk to girls?
Guys, guys, you're not paying attention to meeeee! Guys? Curse you, Fon Revedhort!! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:31:00 -
[388] - Quote
Devilish Ledoux wrote:Me, I'm voting for whoever Solo Drakban tells me to vote for; even if it's DBRB. Then he'll tell us about the time he won a CSM seat with a candidate thread that only said
Bark
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
884
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Posted - 2012.02.15 00:12:00 -
[389] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:This is me. I like pretty girls and puppies. Punkturis is all right, too.But I donGÇÖt want just any vote. Too many candidates this year are offering milquetoast, dumbed-down platforms. They support good things and disapprove of bad things. Me? I have balls, and I have enemies. IGÇÖm not afraid to name them.
- If you think that virtual pants are more important than spaceships, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that wardecs and PvP should be consensual, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that T2 BPO lottery was a good idea, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that EVE should be made GÇÿsafeGÇÖ from scamming and griefing, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that suicide ganking should be banned, I donGÇÖt want your vote. In fact, tell me where you hang out, so I can drop a Brutix on you.
- If GÇ£warGÇ¥, GÇ£murderGÇ¥ and GÇ£conquestGÇ¥ are naughty words that scare you, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
I like stuff that's good and not a fan of things that are bad. But even as a carebear mining candidate I agree with every point you make. Problem is you can agree with all those things and still be a carebear highsec miner.
So I have no doubt you'll emerge on top again, your minions all but guaranty that outcome. I also expect you will again be very effective at representing the folks that will elect you.
I hope however, if a few of us other folk get elected that you'll agree to work with us in partnership to represent all of Eve and not just a well organized minority.
Good luck! (you won't need it! )
Issler (also thinks spaceships are more important than space pants which isn't what ambulation is) |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
886
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Posted - 2012.02.15 00:46:00 -
[390] - Quote
Ntrails wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:
I hope however, if a few of us other folk get elected that you'll agree to work with us in partnership to represent all of Eve and not just a well organized minority.
Oddly enough if you show up, display a good understanding of the game, manage not to be a mouth breathing ******, and make coherent arguments based on facts and experience of the game - working with him won't be an issue, as just about the entire current CSM would probably vouch.
I am counting on it! 
Issler |
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Marlona Sky
EntroPraetorian Academy EntroPraetorian Aegis
434
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Posted - 2012.02.15 00:48:00 -
[391] - Quote
Not going to scroll through almost twenty pages of goons tugging on themselves to see if this question has been answered; what changes would need to happen where you decide to log into EVE and play instead of queue up another round of WoT?
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4944
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Posted - 2012.02.15 01:10:00 -
[392] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:Not going to scroll through almost twenty pages of goons tugging on themselves to see if this question has been answered; what changes would need to happen where you decide to log into EVE and play instead of queue up another round of WoT?
I'm sorry, I was busy running a massive empire in EVE. You were doing what again?
oh, that's right, posting on failheap like a babby: always butthurt, always impotent~
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
365
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Posted - 2012.02.15 01:16:00 -
[393] - Quote
Running massive empire in EVE = WoT. His cravings are satisfied.
But all games offer different and unique activites to engage in. Propably should play WoT to engage in what WoT offers. Then come back to EVE to enjoy what EVE offers when you got the craving for it. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

OrangeRed
Viziam Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:27:00 -
[394] - Quote
I heard that TheMittani has a puppy. A PUPPY!!! |

Radjaw
Alea Iacta Est Universal Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:39:00 -
[395] - Quote
Mittens for Space King.
(So long as TEST keeps the BK crown.) |

Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.02.15 06:21:00 -
[396] - Quote
The Mittani - He's not ~my ceo~ but that doesn't stop him from being the best. Vote for a CSM that gets things done, vote for Mittens. Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460 |

Xolve
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
887
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Posted - 2012.02.15 07:02:00 -
[397] - Quote
rodyas wrote:Running massive empire in EVE = WoT. His cravings are satisfied.
Its tribes this week, fool.
SHAZBOT! Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
371
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Posted - 2012.02.15 07:44:00 -
[398] - Quote
We're sig bros from different fathers. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

JEFFRAIDER
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
25
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Posted - 2012.02.15 07:56:00 -
[399] - Quote
Sup The Mittani,
How are you going to nerf alliances packing fleets with tons of mouthbreathers in Maelstroms?
Regards,
Jeff R Aider |

Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.02.15 08:35:00 -
[400] - Quote
JEFFRAIDER wrote:Sup The Mittani,
How are you going to nerf alliances packing fleets with tons of mouthbreathers in Maelstroms?
Regards,
Jeff R Aider abloobloobloo EVE is dead |
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Mintrolio
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
281
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Posted - 2012.02.15 08:38:00 -
[401] - Quote
CONFRIMIGN THE GLOVE IST COME OF.
GOON VS GOAT !
KEEP UP GOOD POASTIGN ! MINTROLIO FUR CSM7 |

Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
18
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Posted - 2012.02.15 14:47:00 -
[402] - Quote
I think that The Mittani needs to get rid of the dog and get a cat instead, because cats are superior. Also, cats like griefing defenseless mice and have tremendous fun doing it, so they are the perfect match for the boss of Goonswarm.
Apart from the missing cat however, I see no reason not to vote for chairman The Mittani. |

OldMan Gana
The Flaming Sideburn's Art of War Alliance
29
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Posted - 2012.02.15 15:43:00 -
[403] - Quote
I'm betting this ends up a 30 page mega thread. " I spent most of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best-á |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
650
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Posted - 2012.02.15 15:45:00 -
[404] - Quote
http://www.suddenlyninjas.net/voteskipper.jpg
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
124
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Posted - 2012.02.15 16:36:00 -
[405] - Quote
JEFFRAIDER wrote:Sup The Mittani,
How are you going to nerf alliances packing fleets with tons of mouthbreathers in Maelstroms? Oh oh, let's return to fleets with tons of mouthbreathers in Abaddons! Or we can go the ~cool hip~ path with tengufleets! Tuffcats, roflcats, what other great names are there for those? Or what about just HACs all day?
Just wait until one day we get a couple drakefleets in and start shooting one another with ungrouped weapons. Free TiDi for everyone~~~ |

SirMille
Sigma Kid Protection Services Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.15 16:36:00 -
[406] - Quote
My Alliance Leader~ |

doombreed52
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2012.02.15 16:42:00 -
[407] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:JEFFRAIDER wrote:Sup The Mittani,
How are you going to nerf alliances packing fleets with tons of mouthbreathers in Maelstroms? Oh oh, let's return to fleets with tons of mouthbreathers in Abaddons! Or we can go the ~cool hip~ path with tengufleets! Or what about just HACs all day? Just wait until one day we get a couple drakefleets in and start shooting one another with ungrouped weapons. Free TiDi for everyone~~~ but we cant be as classy as some other alliances remember everyone in the CFC is a scrub. that is terrible at eve. |

Marlona Sky
EntroPraetorian Academy EntroPraetorian Aegis
436
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Posted - 2012.02.15 17:08:00 -
[408] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Not going to scroll through almost twenty pages of goons tugging on themselves to see if this question has been answered; what changes would need to happen where you decide to log into EVE and play instead of queue up another round of WoT? I'm sorry, I was busy running a massive empire in EVE. You were doing what again? oh, that's right, posting on failheap like a babby: always butthurt, always impotent~
Jesus... Ok let me reword my question into something more lucid for you.
You say you play WoT because you can just log in queue up for a match and presto, you have instant fun. What changes would you like to happen in EVE that would give the players the same kind of instant satisfaction; if that is something you would like to see at all in any shape.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
473
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Posted - 2012.02.15 17:14:00 -
[409] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote: You say you play WoT because you can just log in queue up for a match and presto, you have instant fun. What changes would you like to happen in EVE that would give the players the same kind of instant satisfaction; if that is something you would like to see at all in any shape.
Amamake III Belt 1. Guaranteed satisfaction within minutes.
Eve doesn't need a built-in system for instant fun -- it just needs more people knowing how to make fun for themselves (and others) instead of waiting for it to be spoon-fed to them.
People need to stop comparing WoT and EVE. They are different games. For a more accurate comparison, compare Runescape and EVE. Edit: and you'd still be really far off the mark, but a bit closer than WoT. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

Magnusian
Sigma Kid Protection Services Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.15 17:19:00 -
[410] - Quote
The Mittani for CCP CEO. |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
2951
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Posted - 2012.02.15 17:49:00 -
[411] - Quote
JEFFRAIDER wrote:Sup The Mittani,
How are you going to nerf alliances packing fleets with tons of mouthbreathers in Maelstroms?
Regards,
Jeff R Aider
Look at this guy: he's afraid to fight goons with subcaps. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.02.15 17:55:00 -
[412] - Quote
The MIttani takes yoga and knows the importance of breathing through the nose. He has passed that wisdom on to the students who follow in his path.
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Venus Vermillion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
408
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Posted - 2012.02.15 19:49:00 -
[413] - Quote
Mintrolio wrote:CONFRIMIGN THE GLOVE IST COME OF. GOON VS GOAT !KEEP UP GOOD POASTIGN !
Sigma is already a part of goonwaffe. I don't know why they'd fight us. Seems self-defeating. Literally.
Dumb goatlovers. |

Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.02.15 20:37:00 -
[414] - Quote
Posting in the hope for a candidacy view on the following: Bounty Hunting
"All griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems." |

Tinker Ahrire
Ruvas Logistics and Maintenance Services
0
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Posted - 2012.02.15 21:55:00 -
[415] - Quote
So much potential here. I only hope that he can keep his in game character separate from what is good for Eve as a whole...
Perhaps I should split votes between Mittens and Xenuria.  |

Jaiimez Skor
Exanimo Inc Psychotic Tendencies.
21
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Posted - 2012.02.15 23:28:00 -
[416] - Quote
A year ago, the idea of a Goon having a place on the CSM with any kind of real power in affecting the direction of the game was a thought that terrified me, but after seeing the things you achieved as chairman of the CSM in the past year, I would not have the slightest bit of concern in voting for your re-election to the CSM and for a second term as chairman.
You have my vote, now just to decide who gets my other (we still get 2 right.) |

Paxton Brimstone
Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.02.15 23:35:00 -
[417] - Quote
Enjoying the change in how our representation is listened to and respected. Good work and a good ally + 1 vote for Mittens for another round! |

ConXtionS
Jian Products Engineering Group Nulli Secunda
6
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Posted - 2012.02.16 00:55:00 -
[418] - Quote
you're who????
Irrelevant
Back to EVE! |

Staar Antollare
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 00:58:00 -
[419] - Quote
An idea for Null Sec:
Allow Sov Holding Alliances to lease "Systems" to renter alliances. This would introduce revenue generation at the alliance level and new meta-game options for players.
Thanks. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5042
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Posted - 2012.02.16 02:58:00 -
[420] - Quote
Grumpy Owly wrote:Posting in the hope for a candidacy view on the following: Bounty Hunting
Your sig says:
"All griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems."
Get out of my thread. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
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Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
10
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Posted - 2012.02.16 03:24:00 -
[421] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:There should be a limit to how many times you get re-elected. There should be a limit to who can get elected in the first place as well. So far I've found one (MAYBE two, but that's not my point).
Guess what, you get the honour of being very, very special and unique, and doesn't get to be elected.
At least, if I decided. |

Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
176
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Posted - 2012.02.16 03:39:00 -
[422] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Posting in the hope for a candidacy view on the following: Bounty Hunting Your sig says: "All griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems." Get out of my thread.
I guess then this implies I'm not allowed a personal view on the subject?
Can I similarly then simply assume you support griefing? Largely a rhetorical question given your stance on the game.
Please don't feel compelled to repsond however, I understand your denial of any viewpoint that doesn't support your own is of no relevance or concern to you or your campaign interests.
As a champion of "griefers" the very fact that you have not bothered to answer since you are scared by a players stance simply supports my signatures comment. 
"All griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems." |

The Gard'ner
New Eden's Garden
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 05:10:00 -
[423] - Quote
The Mittani,
Most of your posts, that I have read so far, in several threads have a "like it or leave" ring to them. With that not only the response to a legit question from Grumpy Owly, but other remarks on the forum.
You will represent those who voted for you, what if something happens through the year where most of your voters don't agree on, will it be the same snobby additude telling us to "like it or leave" ? |

Akelorian
FinFleet Raiden.
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 07:20:00 -
[424] - Quote
The Gard'ner wrote:The Mittani,
Most of your posts, that I have read so far, in several threads have a "like it or leave" ring to them. With that not only the response to a legit question from Grumpy Owly, but other remarks on the forum.
You will represent those who voted for you, what if something happens through the year where most of your voters don't agree on, will it be the same snobby additude telling us to "like it or leave" ?
Its who he is, and what he does, like it or leave it. I'd much rather call him a **** than give him my vote, its up to the players to see Mittens for what he is and whats really on his agenda, and no, it is not for the good of the players but for his alliance. He is corrupt, cares very little for you or I, or the new player. He cares only about getting his way by proposing changes in the game that benefits only him and his alliance/coalition. |

Lolmer
Yahoo Inc Caffeine Nicotine and Hate
20
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Posted - 2012.02.16 08:00:00 -
[425] - Quote
2bhammered wrote: Yeah, a lot of Americans and English people in general are very abusive sometimes. The hate against anyone Russian is also very strong, blacks, jews and Russians in particular are targeted a lot for abuse in this game. It reminds me a lot of many Americans and British people on Xbox live. Not sure what he can do about it? I suppose he can start by making sure goon mumble members not have swastikas as their profile pic? and also ensure goons members do not scream f'ing jew and the N word in local and such. At least then he sets an example and more can follow perhaps.
PS: For the record, there are blacks, jews, Russians and nice Americans as well as British people within the goons. Don't misunderstand me.
You're saying that we're racist in the same breath in which you are spouting racist nonsense? Xbox Live players are people too and you should show them respect!
NOTE: I don't actually own an Xbox nor do I have an Xbox Live account. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2087
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 08:21:00 -
[426] - Quote
Akelorian wrote:[quote=The Gard'ner]Its who he is, and what he does, like it or leave it. I'd much rather call him a **** than give him my vote, its up to the players to see Mittens for what he is and whats really on his agenda, and no, it is not for the good of the players but for his alliance. He is corrupt, cares very little for you or I, or the new player. He cares only about getting his way by proposing changes in the game that benefits only him and his alliance/coalition.
Tell me how much you care about the new player, akelorian of finfleet yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Mintrolio
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
296
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 08:23:00 -
[427] - Quote
Akelorian wrote:The Gard'ner wrote:The Mittani,..............
Its who he is, and what he does, like it or leave it. I'd much rather call him a **** than give him my vote, its up to the players to see Mittens for what he is and whats really on his agenda, and no, it is not for the good of the players but for his alliance. He is corrupt, cares very little for you or I, or the new player. He cares only about getting his way by proposing changes in the game that benefits only him and his alliance/coalition.
I AM THINK I MAY HAVE PLAN JUST FUR YOU.
PLEASE VOTIGN MINTROLIO - YOU CAN FINDIGN MINE WORDS IN LINK BELLOWS.
ALSO EVEN IF NOT VOTIGN MINTROLIO, I AM THENK YOU FUR TIME.
MINTROLIO FUR CSM7 |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5083
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 11:09:00 -
[428] - Quote
The Gard'ner wrote: Most of your posts, that I have read so far, in several threads have a "like it or leave" ring to them. With that not only the response to a legit question from Grumpy Owly, but other remarks on the forum.
You will represent those who voted for you, what if something happens through the year where most of your voters don't agree on, will it be the same snobby additude telling us to "like it or leave" ?
You get what you get from me. I've been entirely consistent in fighting for issues that are core to my constituents over the past year, and unlike any CSM in memory I've brought results. Someone who whines about 'griefers' isn't going to vote for me anyway.
It's unlikely that my views on nullsec priorities will do an abrupt about-face in the middle of CSM7.
There's an amusing misconception among some about the CSM elections. If I, a flaming leftie, go visit a bible-banging conservative representative who happens to have won my district, he's not going to hear my views on 'maybe we should stop bombing people all the time', he's going to laugh me out of the office. I don't represent consensual PvP, I don't represent people who are afraid of griefers, and I certainly don't represent those obsessed with e-honour.
Deal with it. vOv The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
2966
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Posted - 2012.02.16 11:14:00 -
[429] - Quote
Akelorian wrote:The Gard'ner wrote:The Mittani,
Most of your posts, that I have read so far, in several threads have a "like it or leave" ring to them. With that not only the response to a legit question from Grumpy Owly, but other remarks on the forum.
You will represent those who voted for you, what if something happens through the year where most of your voters don't agree on, will it be the same snobby additude telling us to "like it or leave" ? Its who he is, and what he does, like it or leave it. I'd much rather call him a **** than give him my vote, its up to the players to see Mittens for what he is and whats really on his agenda, and no, it is not for the good of the players but for his alliance. He is corrupt, cares very little for you or I, or the new player. He cares only about getting his way by proposing changes in the game that benefits only him and his alliance/coalition.
I challenge you to name 2 such proposals or admit to being a liar making things up to smear an in-game opponent. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5083
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 11:19:00 -
[430] - Quote
The funny thing is that there's basically no difference in policy between GSF and Finfleet on null issues, unless it's titan gun tracking or if Raiden is Literally The Only Alliance Who Likes Tech The Way It Is.
Anyway, I just found out that the angry NPC alt who hates griefers ran, not walked, to the ~fire mttens~ thread to write a wall of text about how I am a 'punk' because I didn't represent his anti-griefing views.
'heh'
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
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Galatica789
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
15
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 11:28:00 -
[431] - Quote
I live in Lulm, ill expect that Brutix |

Gevlin
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
102
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 13:04:00 -
[432] - Quote
I have you have my support but....
be careful of making eve the one way to play only. the reworking of the Drone lands just so they are the same as all other region. As I have been told it is worthless space but the CSM wants to Nerf it making it like every other region.
I WANT MORE NON CONSENSUAL PVP BUT ALSO MORE I am a Carebare at heart to increase my type op player: Ie i believe there should be an added option of Consensual PVP like In game mechanic for fight simulators, or in game tournament mechanic to automate something similar to our Alliance tournaments.
But Don't remove the current non consensual PVP Suicide Ganking, wardecs, etc.... I mine in Null sec, it is exciting to be the mouse in a house of cats If you are a smart mouse you begin to learn ways to protect your self, in PVP servers I can't play because I can't make my self safe.
Though EVE needs to expanded Non Consensual PVP so the suicide gangker can't hide behind concord. Ie Goon ganks a Miner, who won't have any skill to fight back, in a throw away ship. Then gets into his expensive ship to fly around with little risk of retaliation. Care Bears should have the right to transfer "or sell" Their kill rights" to another. Now we have true non Consensual PVP as Care Bears are given the tools to fight back.
-->I like my pants but I don't need more , I want the opportunity to interact with other avatars even with limited mechanics. Role Playing. -->I want more marketing control, I want to open shop to sell to my choice of customers, giving me more control on who gets my goods, not some red buying my stock of damage controls, Even if it is off a tab in the Hanger UI I want more ships --> I want t3 Frigate, but I also want to have some new Industry ships or more industrial options for current combat ships. I love being hunted
In Summary. Eve is more than just SHIP PVP. -Market PVP, Asset Denial, Politics. Roleplaying, Inflated Egoes this is what makes eve great!!
so Don't be scraping what pants I got. Though I don't need more Don't be taking the sand our of my Sand box, put more in it!
I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |

Mintrolio
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
299
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:17:00 -
[433] - Quote
GELVIN IST FINE LINE YOU WALKIGN
JUST A THOUHGT
KEEP UP GOOD POASTIGN MINTROLIO FUR CSM7 |

Boris Lachenkov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:30:00 -
[434] - Quote
How long will Mintrolio's reign of slander be allowed to run? I call upon CCP to take action in this time of crisis.
Snipe. |

Mintrolio
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
299
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 13:50:00 -
[435] - Quote
Boris Lachenkov wrote:How long will Mintrolio's reign be allowed to run? I call upon CCP to take action in this time of crisis.
Snipe.
UNTIL MARCH 21ST. MINTROLIO FUR CSM7 |

Boris Lachenkov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
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Posted - 2012.02.16 14:01:00 -
[436] - Quote
This is much too long, I ask the Mittani what he plans to do in order to counter these horrific claims. Namely being compared to David Cameron.
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
152
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 14:05:00 -
[437] - Quote
The Mittani,
I can't verify that you have had the dramatic effect on the CSM that you claim, nor do i think you care about the views of the wider community, so i just have a couple questions that i hope you can answer honestly...
If it were up to you, what direction would you like to see EVE grow in?
What do you consider to be the biggest problem in EVE today and conversely what do you consider the best thing about EVE? |

Herbatrix
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:08:00 -
[438] - Quote
Mr Mittani, as someone who has no idea who you are, who has never voted, and who is not going to read through 22 pages, could you briefly summarise what sorts of changes you're looking to make, what issues you think need to be looked at, etc.? |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5103
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 15:17:00 -
[439] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote:The Mittani,
I can't verify that you have had the dramatic effect on the CSM that you claim, nor do i think you care about the views of the wider community, so i just have a couple questions that i hope you can answer honestly...
If it were up to you, what direction would you like to see EVE grow in?
What do you consider to be the biggest problem in EVE today and conversely what do you consider the best thing about EVE?
I'd like to see more expansions like Crucible, and keep stabbing stakes into the heart of Incarna. Just to be absolutely certain that it's dead, and that Hilmar doesn't get more Kool-Aid.
Many of the sucking chest wounds impacting EVE were dealt with during CSM6 and the Crucible expansion. Lag, iterative ship balance, supercaps, etc etc. Right now the highest priority post-Crucible would be risk/reward balance, as EVE is spewing risk-free isk everywhere, while there's not much reason to actually hold or profit from sov, which is quite risky.
The best thing about EVE is the metagame - the politics, the treachery. That's what makes it unique. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5103
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 15:18:00 -
[440] - Quote
Herbatrix wrote:Mr Mittani, as someone who has no idea who you are, who has never voted, and who is not going to read through 22 pages, could you briefly summarise what sorts of changes you're looking to make, what issues you think need to be looked at, etc.?
I'm not going to hold your hand if you're too lazy to educate yourself. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
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Tubrug1
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
24
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:20:00 -
[441] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:
[list]
If you think that virtual pants are more important than spaceships, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
.
But what about virtual hats? You think theyre important right? Don't listen to what i say |

RUSROG
Beasts of Burden
106
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 15:21:00 -
[442] - Quote
You have beautiful eyes.
-áE .-+ ` ' /-+. F
Your tears fuel me. And as always, have nice day. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
68
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 15:24:00 -
[443] - Quote
Tubrug1 wrote:The Mittani wrote:
[list]
If you think that virtual pants are more important than spaceships, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
. But what about virtual hats? You think theyre important right?
At least people would actually seem them sometimes. I want a fez. My main wants a do rag. I would pay Aurum for these.
|

Dramaticus
Goonswarm Federation
53
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 15:44:00 -
[444] - Quote
The Mittani why do you support bad facial hair? |

Boris Lachenkov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 15:48:00 -
[445] - Quote
If you vote for me in CSM 8, I will push for virtual hats to be added to the game in conjunction with a valve TF2 EVE hat release.
I want an avatar to dangle from the top of my head. |

Jonathan Malcom
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
52
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 15:57:00 -
[446] - Quote
Hey Mittens, any chance you can talk Vile rat into running again? He's dreamy. <3 |

Herbatrix
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 15:58:00 -
[447] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Herbatrix wrote:Mr Mittani, as someone who has no idea who you are, who has never voted, and who is not going to read through 22 pages, could you briefly summarise what sorts of changes you're looking to make, what issues you think need to be looked at, etc.? I'm not going to hold your hand if you're too lazy to educate yourself.
You're doing politics wrong. You're meant to be sucking up to the voters to get their +1  |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
152
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 16:32:00 -
[448] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:[quote=Rek Seven] I'd like to see more expansions like Crucible, and keep stabbing stakes into the heart of Incarna. Just to be absolutely certain that it's dead, and that Hilmar doesn't get more Kool-Aid.
Many of the sucking chest wounds impacting EVE were dealt with during CSM6 and the Crucible expansion. Lag, iterative ship balance, supercaps, etc etc. Right now the highest priority post-Crucible would be risk/reward balance, as EVE is spewing risk-free isk everywhere, while there's not much reason to actually hold or profit from sov, which is quite risky.
The best thing about EVE is the metagame - the politics, the treachery. That's what makes it unique.
Thanks for your reply. Although i want the existing content to be improved and fixed, personally i want to see the WiS features many people were expecting implemented in the future and I'm not going to be happy if all i can expect from now on is polish and more ships added to the list of ships i have no intention of flying.
For that reason i hope you don't get get your way as i think your attitude stifles the creativeness of CCP and will lead to a stagnate game with a dwindling player base, that may look pretty but will be filled with elitist players who forget that EVE is a game. |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
482
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:44:00 -
[449] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote: Thanks for your reply. Although i want the existing content to be improved and fixed, personally i want to see the WiS features many people were expecting implemented in the future and I'm not going to be happy if all i can expect from now on is polish and more ships added to the list of ships i have no intention of flying.
For that reason i hope you don't get get your way as i think your attitude stifles the creativeness of CCP and will lead to a stagnate game with a dwindling player base, that may look pretty but will be filled with elitist players who forget that EVE is a game.
At the core, Eve is (still) a spaceship game. I don't mind adding more WiS stuff, as it looks really cool and can be great for immersion. I don't even mind AUR and vanity items all that much. However, the FiS part of the game has so many balance problems that it makes very little sense to prioritize WiS over FiS.
CCP has proven that it cannot properly do both WiS and FiS at the same time. That is why people like The Mittani are good, as they pound the "put FiS first" attitude that preserves and improves the game, rather than leaving glaring problems be and just add more ~awesome~.
More succinctly: stifling the creativeness of an architect who just wants to design fancy arch decorations in favor of making him do the much less fun task of making sure the building is stable is not a bad thing. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
152
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 17:03:00 -
[450] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote: At the core, Eve is (still) a spaceship game. I don't mind adding more WiS stuff, as it looks really cool and can be great for immersion. I don't even mind AUR and vanity items all that much. However, the FiS part of the game has so many balance problems that it makes very little sense to prioritize WiS over FiS.
CCP has proven that it cannot properly do both WiS and FiS at the same time. That is why people like The Mittani are good, as they pound the "put FiS first" attitude that preserves and improves the game, rather than leaving glaring problems be and just add more ~awesome~.
More succinctly: stifling the creativeness of an architect who just wants to design fancy arch decorations in favor of making him do the much less fun task of making sure the building is stable is not a bad thing.
I totally agree with you. The FiS content is the reason we were all attracted to this game in the first place and therefore the developers should be focusing on improving and expanding on that part first but the Mittani is saying he doesn't what WiS whatsoever.
Incarna as it is now adds next to nothing to the game and i'm not going to sit here and claim otherwise but i believe it has potential to be a hell of a lot more and could actually enhance/compliment EVE gameplay. |
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FOEHAMMER006
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 17:16:00 -
[451] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote: At the core, Eve is (still) a spaceship game. I don't mind adding more WiS stuff, as it looks really cool and can be great for immersion. I don't even mind AUR and vanity items all that much. However, the FiS part of the game has so many balance problems that it makes very little sense to prioritize WiS over FiS.
CCP has proven that it cannot properly do both WiS and FiS at the same time. That is why people like The Mittani are good, as they pound the "put FiS first" attitude that preserves and improves the game, rather than leaving glaring problems be and just add more ~awesome~.
More succinctly: stifling the creativeness of an architect who just wants to design fancy arch decorations in favor of making him do the much less fun task of making sure the building is stable is not a bad thing.
I totally agree with you. The FiS content is the reason we were all attracted to this game in the first place and therefore the developers should be focusing on improving and expanding on that part first but the Mittani is saying he doesn't what WiS whatsoever. Incarna as it is now adds next to nothing to the game and i'm not going to sit here and claim otherwise but i believe it has potential to be a hell of a lot more and could actually enhance/compliment EVE gameplay.
There is this game called Second Life, you can build it yourself.
I want to be able to keep blowing **** up in many ways possible. |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
57
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 17:29:00 -
[452] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote:I totally agree with you. The FiS content is the reason we were all attracted to this game in the first place and therefore the developers should be focusing on improving and expanding on that part first but the Mittani is saying he doesn't what WiS whatsoever.
Incarna as it is now adds next to nothing to the game and i'm not going to sit here and claim otherwise but i believe it has potential to be a hell of a lot more and could actually enhance/compliment EVE gameplay.
The point you're missing with that is that it's not so much that WiS is inherently bad or wrong in and of itself, it's just that the amount of resources it would take to make it work and work well is nowhere near worth what you get out of having it in place (nothing, basically).
If this was a fantasyland where you could just snap your fingers and have a fully working WiS implementation in the game, I don't think anyone would really oppose it. However, this is a world where CCP has laid off 20% of it's worldwide staff, so if they're going to be working on anything, WiS is about the lowest priority thing out there, if not THE lowest.
And that's to say nothing of the negative connotations Incarna has after the whole monoclegate thing. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5126
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 17:29:00 -
[453] - Quote
I'm not averse to WiS being developed eventually, once the sucking chest wounds have been patched in Flying in Space content.
However, I think FiS will require years of work to make up for the years of neglect received during the long years of Incarna mis-development, and in my view FiS > WiS when it comes to development triage. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Kriegman
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:56:00 -
[454] - Quote
Mittani for CSM. Long live the king of space! |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
1
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:01:00 -
[455] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:I'm not averse to WiS being developed eventually, once the sucking chest wounds have been patched in Flying in Space content.
However, I think FiS will require years of work to make up for the years of neglect received during the long years of Incarna mis-development, and in my view FiS > WiS when it comes to development triage.
You do have to admit that WiS does have the potential to be really, really cool. |

Zandramus
Quiet.Storm NEM3SIS.
15
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:13:00 -
[456] - Quote
I am reading this thread on my iPhone so please forgive me if this question has already been asked and answered, as I don't feel like looking through. 28 pages of circle jerking fanbois.
What is your positions on the following items.
1. Delayed local in nullsec. 2. Fixing the broken physics engine if at all possible in relation to small ships bumping much larger ships. 3. Iteration of new capital and tech 3 ships.
Thanks
Zandramus |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
152
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:36:00 -
[457] - Quote
I respect your views and dedication to improving the core gameplay, especially if what you say is true, in that meaningful WiS content is that far off. However, I hope your energy will be devoted to improving the game for everyone, rather than going out of your way to destroy certain parts of the game.
Thanks for your time |

Timmy Tebow
Saevos Aviation Saevos Aviation LLC
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 19:50:00 -
[458] - Quote
I hope I didn't miss these elsewhere in the thread, but I have three questions for you:
1) How do you feel about time dilation and the potential impact it has on CCP in regards to demotivating them in upgrading server hardware?
2) PLEX/GTC prices are too damn high. How will you leverage your influence on the CSM to bring down the price of game time paid with isk?
3) How should CCP reward veterans for their longevity in playing this game instead of punishing them via "end-game" nerfs?
Thanks for answering and good luck in your campaign! |

Phigmeta
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
25
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:24:00 -
[459] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:chumbucket wrote:On a scale of 1-10 I put your shoddy sandbagger work as csm at a strong 3 the only thing you should be re-elected to do is clean the grease traps again at the Burger King you manage :) sorry about bulldozing your alliance in delve, it was for the best
the buthurt was strong in that one |

Commander McSpacepants
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:45:00 -
[460] - Quote
Worthless hi-sec carebear in an NPC corp chiming in: everything that I love about EvE and hope to accomplish if I ever get time to log in and ****** PLAY this game is represented by the Mittani and Goonswarm. Votin fer ya. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2103
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:26:00 -
[461] - Quote
Timmy Tebow wrote:3) How should CCP reward veterans for their longevity in playing this game instead of punishing them via "end-game" nerfs?
if you think supercapitals are the "end-game" you are sorely mistaken yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Akelorian
FinFleet Raiden.
3
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:32:00 -
[462] - Quote
Malcanis wrote: I challenge you to name 2 such proposals or admit to being a liar making things up to smear an in-game opponent.
Supercap nerfing is in the best interest for the CFC, and the not so nerf'ed tech isk printers of the north, please show me where neither of these changes or unchanges have not had a serious impact on his alliance/coalition. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2103
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:36:00 -
[463] - Quote
Akelorian wrote:He is corrupt, cares very little for you or I, or the new player.
please elaborate on the bolded part!
btw, it's probably worth noting that most players recruited into GoonWaffe are days-old newbies. yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Akelorian
FinFleet Raiden.
3
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:42:00 -
[464] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:The funny thing is that there's basically no difference in policy between GSF and Finfleet on null issues, unless it's titan gun tracking or if Raiden is Literally The Only Alliance Who Likes Tech The Way It Is.
Anyway, I just found out that the angry NPC alt who hates griefers ran, not walked, to the ~fire mttens~ thread to write a wall of text about how I am a 'punk' because I didn't represent his anti-griefing views.
'heh'
In my personal opinion tech has been a worse isk printer than prom/dyspro alone, at least those moons were spread around eve in every region, Tech is in the northern regions alone and have provided less opportunity for other alliances to take them, up until the fall of the Northern Coalition of last year. And yet what is the current conflict over yet again? Control of the insanely valuable Tech moons of the north.
I would have thought being part of the csm you would have had this fixed over the past term, yet you fail to produce on anything that would affect GSF or the CFC because its not in your best interest. I am amused at the ammount of people who do not see this nor are willing to accept the fact that you truely are a liar and an opportunistic ****.
Please correct me where I am wrong, I am not hiding behind an alt, nor running away :)
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Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:44:00 -
[465] - Quote
Andski wrote:Akelorian wrote:He is corrupt, cares very little for you or I, or the new player. please elaborate on the bolded part! btw, it's probably worth noting that most players recruited into GoonWaffe are days-old newbies. goons are terrible towards newbies
unlike elite pvp entity finfleet which in-game is comprised of only ISD volunteers hanging out in the rookie help channel |

Akelorian
FinFleet Raiden.
3
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:46:00 -
[466] - Quote
Andski wrote:Akelorian wrote:He is corrupt, cares very little for you or I, or the new player. please elaborate on the bolded part! btw, it's probably worth noting that most players recruited into GoonWaffe are days-old newbies.
Funny how you talk as if GSF isn't formed from an outside community where you pay to be a part of it, and most members of the GSF come from this community. I will not condone scamming of new players nor am I against it, but sadly morals is something that is lacking within the GSF, and that starts from the top.
Though I am glad you recruit many day old newbies, its easier to get spies in that way :) |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2103
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 22:54:00 -
[467] - Quote
Akelorian wrote:Andski wrote:Akelorian wrote:He is corrupt, cares very little for you or I, or the new player. please elaborate on the bolded part! btw, it's probably worth noting that most players recruited into GoonWaffe are days-old newbies. Funny how you talk as if GSF isn't formed from an outside community where you pay to be a part of it, and most members of the GSF come from this community. I will not condone scamming of new players nor am I against it, but sadly morals is something that is lacking within the GSF, and that starts from the top. Though I am glad you recruit many day old newbies, its easier to get spies in that way :)
yeah, The Mittani is a terrible person who scams new players out of their supercarriers yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
420
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 22:55:00 -
[468] - Quote
Andski wrote:Timmy Tebow wrote:3) How should CCP reward veterans for their longevity in playing this game instead of punishing them via "end-game" nerfs? if you think supercapitals are the "end-game" you are sorely mistaken the true endgame is to go to fanfest, get drunk and take a swing at some enemy diplo |

Akelorian
FinFleet Raiden.
3
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Posted - 2012.02.16 23:03:00 -
[469] - Quote
Andski wrote:
Tell me how much you care about the new player, akelorian of finfleet
I value them greatly, as they provide more pilots for your coalition, hence more people to shoot ;) |

Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
300
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 23:14:00 -
[470] - Quote
This thread needs more angry members of the general public posting in it. |
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Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
300
|
Posted - 2012.02.16 23:16:00 -
[471] - Quote
Akelorian wrote:Funny how you talk as if GSF isn't formed from an outside community where you pay to be a part of it, and most members of the GSF come from this community. I will not condone scamming of new players nor am I against it, but sadly morals is something that is lacking within the GSF, and that starts from the top.
Though I am glad you recruit many day old newbies, its easier to get spies in that way :)
There are non-SA corps in GoonSwarm. Or did you really believe all those French and RUS)) corps they took in had the :10bux: requirements before merging into GSF?
Please tell me which one it is so I can make fun of your stupidity either way. |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1061
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 01:36:00 -
[472] - Quote
Let me tell you about a Mitten I know.
I first met Alex when I was still working at CCP at the Las Vegas EVE meet in 2009. After a few slideshows and lots of nerd talk, the people attending were broken up into five groups of 'devs' and given about an hour to come up with a new EVE expansion. Name, features, etc... Mittens said he didn't really want to do this or take charge of his group but, of course, he did. When it came time to present their expansion, he launched into a presentation called EVE Online: Corruption that pretty much owned. It was all about how ****** up lo-sec was and how you could do all this cool stuff to make it better and OMG METH-NAUGHTS (drug lab cap ships).
At FanFest 2009, Mittens first, he was all over the place in different panels and round tables. He was in my presentation on Game Design and it was either him or Zastrow that made the chainsaw sound effect for the new DD animation because the video I showed was silent. I remember him saying at one point, "Damnit, I just met a guy I really hate in ATLAS and he's actually pretty cool. I can't hate him now. Coming here was a mistake."
I could talk a lot about the person behind the character, but probably the most honest (and possibly damning) thing I can say is that he's not the monster he wants you to believe. Even before he was in the CSM, I watched Mittens rant about nerfing supercaps just as enthusiastically as bitching about the EVE tutorial and how lost newbies are when they join EVE. I do not agree with him on everything and I wish he would put more of a happy face on sometimes in his responsibilities as CSM Chair, but there is no denying that he has put forth an extraordinary amount of time and effort into the CSM.
TLDR - The Mittani - he's actually a nice guy.  Seleene's Sandbox - My Blog, where I say stuff. Follow Seleene on Twitter |

Thrawn Rulendo
RED FALCONS
2
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Posted - 2012.02.17 02:21:00 -
[473] - Quote
Mittani for CSM  |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
80
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 02:25:00 -
[474] - Quote
Seleene wrote:Let me tell you about a Mitten I know. I first met Alex when I was still working at CCP at the Las Vegas EVE meet in 2009. After a few slideshows and lots of nerd talk, the people attending were broken up into five groups of 'devs' and given about an hour to come up with a new EVE expansion. Name, features, etc... Mittens said he didn't really want to do this or take charge of his group but, of course, he did. When it came time to present their expansion, he launched into a presentation called EVE Online: Corruption that pretty much owned. It was all about how ****** up lo-sec was and how you could do all this cool stuff to make it better and OMG METH-NAUGHTS (drug lab cap ships). At FanFest 2009, Mittens first, he was all over the place in different panels and round tables. He was in my presentation on Game Design and it was either him or Zastrow that made the chainsaw sound effect for the new DD animation because the video I showed was silent. I remember him saying at one point, "Damnit, I just met a guy I really hate in ATLAS and he's actually pretty cool. I can't hate him now. Coming here was a mistake." I could talk a lot about the person behind the character, but probably the most honest (and possibly damning) thing I can say is that he's not the monster he wants you to believe. Even before he was in the CSM, I watched Mittens rant about nerfing supercaps just as enthusiastically as bitching about the EVE tutorial and how lost newbies are when they join EVE. I do not agree with him on everything and I wish he would put more of a happy face on sometimes in his responsibilities as CSM Chair, but there is no denying that he has put forth an extraordinary amount of time and effort into the CSM. TLDR - The Mittani - he's actually a nice guy. 
Quoting this from the bottom of the last page for reference, and also to possibly embarrass ~my ceo~. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
127
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Posted - 2012.02.17 02:38:00 -
[475] - Quote
Akelorian wrote:Though I am glad you recruit many day old newbies, its easier to get spies in that way :) Silly, newbies that get recruited from say a newbie drive are recruited even before they've started playing EVE.
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
151
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 03:20:00 -
[476] - Quote
In the same linked linked thread:
CCP Diagoras wrote: We have not seen evidence of any NDA breaches. Should you have any, please feel free to contact us via the petition system.
I believe this makes you what non-goons call a "liar". Mudslinging makes you far too similar to real-world professional politicians for my tastes. Thanks for all your hard work grabbing power for an alliance I'm not in though. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
129
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Posted - 2012.02.17 04:56:00 -
[477] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Thanks for all your hard work grabbing power for an alliance I'm not in though. Thanks for grabbing power for an alliance I'm in! Please continue to do your best :)
I recall they had difficulty finding anything about the BoB T2 BPO thing too, didn't they? Someone refresh my memory on this. |

Dilligaf Jack
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.02.17 05:47:00 -
[478] - Quote
So many space mad pubbies
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Mujen
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 05:50:00 -
[479] - Quote
Voted for Mittani last year. He'll have my vote again this year. |

Choc talar
Praetorian Mining and Planetary Exploitation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 06:23:00 -
[480] - Quote
[quote=The Mittani]This is me. I like pretty girls and puppies. Punkturis is all right, too.
- If you think that virtual pants are more important than spaceships, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that wardecs and PvP should be consensual, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that T2 BPO lottery was a good idea, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that EVE should be made GÇÿsafeGÇÖ from scamming and griefing, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that suicide ganking should be banned, I donGÇÖt want your vote. In fact, tell me where you hang out, so I can drop a Brutix on you.
- If GÇ£warGÇ¥, GÇ£murderGÇ¥ and GÇ£conquestGÇ¥ are naughty words that scare you, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
I am and have been a hi-sec dweller but I agree with these things! See not all Hi-Sec are scared puppy dogs!
I would like to hear what you have planned however, or rather what items you would push over the next year. had to add an outside support since most support so far seems a little pedantic.
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Syninder
Kuhri Innovations
0
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Posted - 2012.02.17 08:38:00 -
[481] - Quote
Vote Mittans.
You may not like him and his alliance but he gets **** done. |

Adeirik Brelgard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 09:15:00 -
[482] - Quote
Mittani = Jita protest nonsens |

Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 09:42:00 -
[483] - Quote
It would be better to accept and submit to a Tyrant that can rule well, than to subject yourselves to the will of the unwashed, uneducated masses. What is good for Goonswarm is good for Eve.
Submit and be fruitful. |

Boris Lachenkov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2012.02.17 10:18:00 -
[484] - Quote
Seleene wrote:better and OMG METH-NAUGHTS (drug lab cap ships)
Seleene wrote:OMG METH-NAUGHTS
http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/1912-so-much-win.jpg |

Hrald
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
79
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 10:40:00 -
[485] - Quote
I'm only a few weeks away from finishing all my training for a carrier. I would drop EVERYTHING for a methnaught. |

Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
754
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 10:54:00 -
[486] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:In the same linked linked thread: CCP Diagoras wrote: We have not seen evidence of any NDA breaches. Should you have any, please feel free to contact us via the petition system.
I believe this makes you what non-goons call a "liar". Mudslinging makes you far too similar to real-world professional politicians for my tastes. Thanks for all your hard work grabbing power for an alliance I'm not in though.
You both are slightly incorrect actually.
The information leaked from a NDA protected channel was deemed non NDA breaking. That he leaked information from that channel was never in question. After the incident it was reiterated to all of us that the channel that leaked was not to be leaked in any way.
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Dipluz
Notorious Legion Mildly Intoxicated
3
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 11:34:00 -
[487] - Quote
Go Mittens (and im not even goonswarm!)
Btw Mittani look at the proposal I made in Assembly Hall!
Its a littlebit about Risk VS Reward which we had some exchanging words about, and I want your views on it. Do feel free to mail me ingame if its good or ****.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=70962&find=unread |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
84
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 14:36:00 -
[488] - Quote
Hrald wrote:I'm only a few weeks away from finishing all my training for a carrier. I would drop EVERYTHING for a methnaught.
You and everyone else. Methnought BPOs would basically be a license to print isk. And idea full of win, a company full of fail, cast your vote for Mittens, and let the WIN prevail! Burma Shave.
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Boris Lachenkov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
21
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 15:53:00 -
[489] - Quote
I vote the methnaught have a new gang warfare link that allows a booster effect to be partially applied to the whole fleet for the duration, this would be in addition to the boosters used by any of the fleet users.
This would require a new siege module of course and it deploys itself into the smiling face of The Mittani, eyes glowing and green smoke pouring out from his mouth. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
108
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 16:19:00 -
[490] - Quote
@Mittani: you can probably secure Hans Jagerblitzen's vote if you pinky-promise to make OMG METH-NAUGHTS happen. He loves his booster production. Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7 |
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
506
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 17:32:00 -
[491] - Quote
Malcanis wrote: I can't seriously imagine anyone being against METH-NAUGHTS
I will be the devil's advocate here: I thought we all also wanted more accessible PvP that is not auto-win for those with pockets deep enough to afford a boosting alt, Falcon alt, a supercap ready to hotdrop, a million implants, and boosters? METH-NAUGHTS would be a step in the wrong direction from that aspect, by making boosters common enough that they become yet another thing you "need" in order to be competitive in PvP. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

Boris Lachenkov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
22
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 18:15:00 -
[492] - Quote
It's simple. The Methnaught becomes a low-sec cap ship and booster production can only occur in low-sec, that way the amount it costs to make stays roughly the same. Low-sec gets a cool way of making money and the methnaught becomes a reality.
You bend EVE around the methnaught so it can work, don't just shove it in. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 19:22:00 -
[493] - Quote
There was an issue with parsing this post's BBCode http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 19:22:00 -
[494] - Quote
Vile rat wrote: You both are slightly incorrect actually.
The information leaked from a NDA protected channel was deemed non NDA breaking. That he leaked information from that channel was never in question. After the incident it was reiterated to all of us that the channel that leaked was not to be leaked in any way.
No, we are not both slightly incorrect. He is 100% incorrect, and I am 100% correct.
Darius did not breach the NDA. Fact verified by CCP as quoted above.
Whether or not he leaked some info from your super-sekrit non-NDA-covered CSM chat channel is irrelevant. He either breached the NDA, making Mittens right, or he didn't, making Mittens full of ****. As he did not breach the NDA, mittens is indeed full of **** and smearing a candidate like a typical mud-slinging politician is apt to do. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
2983
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 19:32:00 -
[495] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:Malcanis wrote: I can't seriously imagine anyone being against METH-NAUGHTS
I will be the devil's advocate here: I thought we all also wanted more accessible PvP that is not auto-win for those with pockets deep enough to afford a boosting alt, Falcon alt, a supercap ready to hotdrop, a million implants, and boosters? METH-NAUGHTS would be a step in the wrong direction from that aspect, by making boosters common enough that they become yet another thing you "need" in order to be competitive in PvP.
Counterpoint: I'm forwarding this post to your mother. Expect to be disowned by morning. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2109
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 19:36:00 -
[496] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Vile rat wrote: You both are slightly incorrect actually.
The information leaked from a NDA protected channel was deemed non NDA breaking. That he leaked information from that channel was never in question. After the incident it was reiterated to all of us that the channel that leaked was not to be leaked in any way.
No, we are not both slightly incorrect. He is 100% incorrect, and I am 100% correct. Darius did not breach the NDA. Fact verified by CCP as quoted above. Whether or not he leaked some info from your super-sekrit non-NDA-covered CSM chat channel is irrelevant. He either breached the NDA, making Mittens right, or he didn't, making Mittens full of ****. As he did not breach the NDA, mittens is indeed full of **** and smearing a candidate like a typical mud-slinging politician is apt to do.
ah yes, the entire CSM 6 cohort is lying about darius doing absolutely nothing the whole year besides showing up to one summit yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Ustrello
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 19:36:00 -
[497] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Vile rat wrote: You both are slightly incorrect actually.
The information leaked from a NDA protected channel was deemed non NDA breaking. That he leaked information from that channel was never in question. After the incident it was reiterated to all of us that the channel that leaked was not to be leaked in any way.
No, we are not both slightly incorrect. He is 100% incorrect, and I am 100% correct. Darius did not breach the NDA. Fact verified by CCP as quoted above. Whether or not he leaked some info from your super-sekrit non-NDA-covered CSM chat channel is irrelevant. He either breached the NDA, making Mittens right, or he didn't, making Mittens full of ****. As he did not breach the NDA, mittens is indeed full of **** and smearing a candidate like a typical mud-slinging politician is apt to do.
I'd love to think the world is as black and white as you say |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
506
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 19:36:00 -
[498] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Malcanis wrote: I can't seriously imagine anyone being against METH-NAUGHTS
I will be the devil's advocate here: I thought we all also wanted more accessible PvP that is not auto-win for those with pockets deep enough to afford a boosting alt, Falcon alt, a supercap ready to hotdrop, a million implants, and boosters? METH-NAUGHTS would be a step in the wrong direction from that aspect, by making boosters common enough that they become yet another thing you "need" in order to be competitive in PvP. Counterpoint: I'm forwarding this post to your mother. Expect to be disowned by morning. Confirming I am now disowned by my mother for not liking meth. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 19:45:00 -
[499] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Vile rat wrote: You both are slightly incorrect actually.
The information leaked from a NDA protected channel was deemed non NDA breaking. That he leaked information from that channel was never in question. After the incident it was reiterated to all of us that the channel that leaked was not to be leaked in any way.
No, we are not both slightly incorrect. He is 100% incorrect, and I am 100% correct. Darius did not breach the NDA. Fact verified by CCP as quoted above. Whether or not he leaked some info from your super-sekrit non-NDA-covered CSM chat channel is irrelevant. He either breached the NDA, making Mittens right, or he didn't, making Mittens full of ****. As he did not breach the NDA, mittens is indeed full of **** and smearing a candidate like a typical mud-slinging politician is apt to do. I'd love to think the world is as black and white as you say
I'd love to think the world wasn't so used to being spun by politicians that people could still recognize the existence of a fact. Instead, flat-out lies are accepted as "slightly incorrect" (read: mostly factual) because they're spoken by people you support. If CCP isn't the recognized authority concerning the FACT that THEIR NDA was not breached, then exactly who is? Mittens? A bunch of no-life gamers elected to the CSM?
CCP says their NDA was not breached. Therefore, it was not breached.
Mittens says that CCP's NDA was breached, in contradiction to CCP's own official decision on the matter. Therefore, mittens is full of ****. I'm not sure if I can state it in a simpler manner, so if you're still lost, it's a case of hear-no-evil, speak-no-evil monkey business. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Ustrello
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 19:52:00 -
[500] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Ustrello wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Vile rat wrote: You both are slightly incorrect actually.
The information leaked from a NDA protected channel was deemed non NDA breaking. That he leaked information from that channel was never in question. After the incident it was reiterated to all of us that the channel that leaked was not to be leaked in any way.
No, we are not both slightly incorrect. He is 100% incorrect, and I am 100% correct. Darius did not breach the NDA. Fact verified by CCP as quoted above. Whether or not he leaked some info from your super-sekrit non-NDA-covered CSM chat channel is irrelevant. He either breached the NDA, making Mittens right, or he didn't, making Mittens full of ****. As he did not breach the NDA, mittens is indeed full of **** and smearing a candidate like a typical mud-slinging politician is apt to do. I'd love to think the world is as black and white as you say I'd love to think the world wasn't so used to being spun by politicians that people could still recognize the existence of a fact. Instead, flat-out lies are accepted as "slightly incorrect" (read: mostly factual) because they're spoken by people you support. If CCP isn't the recognized authority concerning the FACT that THEIR NDA was not breached, then exactly who is? Mittens? A bunch of no-life gamers elected to the CSM? CCP says their NDA was not breached. Therefore, it was not breached. Mittens says that CCP's NDA was breached, in contradiction to CCP's own official decision on the matter. Therefore, mittens is full of ****. I'm not sure if I can state it in a simpler manner, so if you're still lost, it's a case of hear-no-evil, speak-no-evil monkey business.
Ever think that maybe they didn't want to make a big deal out of it so they wouldn't have another mess on their hands while dealing with all the other crap that was going on at the time? |
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 20:08:00 -
[501] - Quote
Ustrello wrote: Ever think that maybe they didn't want to make a big deal out of it so they wouldn't have another mess on their hands while dealing with all the other crap that was going on at the time?
Also irrelevant. The NDA is an agreement between CCP and the individual CSMs. It's not broken until CCP says it's broken.
But hey, if you don't wanna listen to someone you label a "pubbie", and you don't wanna listen to the NDA's author CCP, listen to one of your own, and a CSM to boot:
Vile rat wrote: Breaking NDA isn't a reason not to vote for somebody honestly. That's a legal determination and between CCP and the CSM member.
And verified by another CSM, quoting Vile rat:
Two step wrote: This man speaks truth.
Ah but I bet I'll still hear protests. Have fun matching your world-view to the facts. Earplugs go a long way to keeping the sand out of your ear canals. Goggles will help for your eyes. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
120
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 20:12:00 -
[502] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:No, we are not both slightly incorrect. He is 100% incorrect, and I am 100% correct.
Darius did not breach the NDA. Fact verified by CCP as quoted above.
Whether or not he leaked some info from your super-sekrit non-NDA-covered CSM chat channel is irrelevant. He either breached the NDA, making Mittens right, or he didn't, making Mittens full of ****. As he did not breach the NDA, mittens is indeed full of **** and smearing a candidate like a typical mud-slinging politician is apt to do.
Jesus Christ, you are dumb.
What was leaked was deemed NON NDA BREAKING, where it came from was from a NDA COVERED CHANNEL. If it had been any other company than CCP, D3 would have been shown the door, and had a lawsuit nailed to his butt. Just because CCP showed restraint and let D3 slide BECAUSE WHAT WAS LEAKED WAS DEEMED NON NDA BREAKING off of A NDA COVERED CHANNEL, does not validate your position.
You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Tyrion Struan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 20:12:00 -
[503] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Ustrello wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Vile rat wrote: You both are slightly incorrect actually.
The information leaked from a NDA protected channel was deemed non NDA breaking. That he leaked information from that channel was never in question. After the incident it was reiterated to all of us that the channel that leaked was not to be leaked in any way.
No, we are not both slightly incorrect. He is 100% incorrect, and I am 100% correct. Darius did not breach the NDA. Fact verified by CCP as quoted above. Whether or not he leaked some info from your super-sekrit non-NDA-covered CSM chat channel is irrelevant. He either breached the NDA, making Mittens right, or he didn't, making Mittens full of ****. As he did not breach the NDA, mittens is indeed full of **** and smearing a candidate like a typical mud-slinging politician is apt to do. I'd love to think the world is as black and white as you say I'd love to think the world wasn't so used to being spun by politicians that people could still recognize the existence of a fact. Instead, flat-out lies are accepted as "slightly incorrect" (read: mostly factual) because they're spoken by people you support. If CCP isn't the recognized authority concerning the FACT that THEIR NDA was not breached, then exactly who is? Mittens? A bunch of no-life gamers elected to the CSM? CCP says their NDA was not breached. Therefore, it was not breached. Mittens says that CCP's NDA was breached, in contradiction to CCP's own official decision on the matter. Therefore, mittens is full of ****. I'm not sure if I can state it in a simpler manner, so if you're still lost, it's a case of hear-no-evil, speak-no-evil monkey business.
Your argument presuposes that there is such a thing as an objective reality. Secondly you presuppose that someone has the full an total ability to determine the thruth. Your argument is that CCP says they have not seen proof of an NDA violation, there has therefore not been one. By the same argument; CCP holds no proof that player A has ever violated the EULA, therefore he has not done so. Or, taking an out of game example; I have never been found guilty in a court of law of having driven above the speed limit, therefore I have never done so. Reality and proven facts are not the same.
Vile is pointing out another point. That the CSM members were informed by CCP that the channel was covered by the NDA. Thus they had every reason to expect that information in there was covered by the NDA. Information from that channel was leaked. The person leaking said information therefore had every reason to expect that he was leaking NDA protected information. However, in the aftermath, CCP found that piece of information to have been not covered by the NDA. That is CCP detemining what they want to pursue and not, the person behind the leak had no reason to think that he was not leaking priviliged information. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:19:00 -
[504] - Quote
To above:
Whether a NDA was breached is a LEGAL DETERMINATION. You can have all of the opinions you like, but saying someone breached a NDA is stating a legal fact. When someone is convicted of a crime, then legally that person DID commit the crime. You can ramble on about objective reality and how it relates to philosophy all day, but that does not change a simple fact:
If CCP says the NDA was not breached, then it was not breached.
As for Vile, his expressed opinion is in complete contradiction to HIS OWN WORDS as quoted above. Here, I'll quote it again for those not able to keep up:
Vile rat wrote:
Breaking NDA isn't a reason not to vote for somebody honestly. That's a legal determination and between CCP and the CSM member. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2110
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:24:00 -
[505] - Quote
okay, so the alleged NDA breach aside, what about the fact that he did not do anything at all yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:26:00 -
[506] - Quote
Falin whalin wrote: What was leaked was deemed NON NDA BREAKING...
My point exactly. If what was leaked did not break the NDA, then Darius is not "a NDA-breaching incompetent" as your candidate has stated. Therefore, your candidate is full of ****. It's really not that hard to see this. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Ustrello
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
0
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:27:00 -
[507] - Quote
Hey! he posted 80 posts on the csm forums! that counts.....right? |

Beckie DeLey
Brigade of Guards SpaceMonkey's Alliance
17
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:29:00 -
[508] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote: Breaking NDA isn't a reason not to vote for somebody honestly. That's a legal determination and between CCP and the CSM member.
This.
Much more interesting than any breach of NDA or not is how his fellow CSM members all seem to agree that he didn't participate much. I mean, i wouldn't think much of that accusation if it came only from vile rat and Mittens. But other (non-Goon affiliated) members of the CSM confirmed that. How is DIII even remotely being considered for re-election after that? It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |

Tyrion Struan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:34:00 -
[509] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:To above: Whether a NDA was breached is a LEGAL DETERMINATION. You can have all of the opinions you like, but saying someone breached a NDA is stating a legal fact. When someone is convicted of a crime, then legally that person DID commit the crime. You can ramble on about objective reality and how it relates to philosophy all day, but that does not change a simple fact: If CCP says the NDA was not breached, then it was not breached. As for Vile, his expressed opinion is in complete contradiction to HIS OWN WORDS as quoted above.  Here, I'll quote it again for those not able to keep up: Vile rat wrote: Breaking NDA isn't a reason not to vote for somebody honestly. That's a legal determination and between CCP and the CSM member.
I'm not taking a stance on whether the NDA was breached or not. I'm trying to say that your argument is faulty. You are confusing the relation between what has been determined as a fact in the eyes of the law and what is a "fact". When someone is convicted of a crime it is correct to say that they in the eyes of the law is guilty. That does not mean they committed the crime. Miscarrige of justice happens.
For your argument (accepting CCP as supreme judge of the question) to hold true they'd have to say that ther has been no violation. All I've seen them say is that they lack proof. Those are different things. I'm not saying by this that there was a violation (Vile says there wasn't) I'm just trying to say that you are claiming something to logically follow that does not.
As for Vile he is not saying what you think. It is not for CCP to determine whether the NDA was breached. Whether a contract has been violated or not is a question of law, and as such is for the courts to determine. Barring clauses to something different in the agreement that will be recognised as binding by the courts. (Typically clauses that keep legal determinations out of courts are met with some opposition. I haven't seen the NDA, so I don't know what it says on the matter.) All Vile is saying in the quote is that its a legal determination.
As for the relevance of it for the voters I think Vile is wrong. It's an election. If you want to vote for Xenophile because he wears a hat I support your right to do so. I don't think it should matter and I'll argue against its relevance. But if somebody wants to be carefull of voting for a candidate that knowingly leaked information from a channel that was said to be under NDA protection and which the person therefore had no rightful expectation to think would not be considered a violation of said NDA, I think they're allowed to do so. |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
508
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:34:00 -
[510] - Quote
Call The Mittani a mudslinging lying turd if you want, but don't try to make him sound worse than D3.
D3, on all his campaign promises:
Darius III wrote:Everyone knows that platform doesnt mean anything in election.
D3, on why so many people are bashing his thread:
Darius III wrote:If little Mittens doesnt think I am a threat, why does ho go to such great lengths to lie and send in his morons in droves to be shitting up my campaign thread?
D3, on how he doesn't want to cooperate with the CSM due to his dislike of Mittani:
Darius III wrote:Your voice is muffled when you speak from the end of Mittanis digestive tract. Because I don't feel the need to be part of your Polly Pretty Pants Tea Party in Skype doent mean I didn't participate. Coming from a guy whose campaign focus was on the fact the he lived in a wormhole I take your tears as a sure sign I am doing things right. As you are one of the herd blindly following Mittani's every suggestion, I have to ask-did he ask you to post here?
D3, on how Mittani excluded him from the "Polly Pretty Pants Tea Party" that he "didn't feel the need to be part of":
Darius III wrote:Fact is, the CSM don't like me because I was the only one not permanently lodged in the end organ of Mittani's digestive system. The same Mittani who wrongfully excluded me from the Skype discussion and removed me from said discussion three times without cause. Clearly a vote for Darius III is a vote against Mittani and the rest of the establishment.
D3's "CSM accomplishments".
Mittani might be a stubborn ass who continues to yell "NDA breach" ignoring CCP's choice in favor to personal convictions, but he gets stuff done, and has a lot of people backing him and his views. He also at least tries to make reasonable-sounding posts, and does not resort to mud-slinging every time someone contradicts him.
The CSM is supposed to be a team who discusses and collaborates in informing CCP of the players' wishes. When a member of the team refuses to participate in discussion, and is accused by the others of being extremely unproductive, that person does not belong on the team. That is regardless if everyone there is up Mittani's rear -- an rear which, I should mention, will remain on the CSM despite all of D3's bleating. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
1255
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:54:00 -
[511] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:But hey, if you don't wanna listen to someone you label a "pubbie", and you don't wanna listen to the NDA's author CCP, listen to one of your own, and a CSM to boot: Vile rat wrote: Breaking NDA isn't a reason not to vote for somebody honestly. That's a legal determination and between CCP and the CSM member.
And verified by another CSM, quoting Vile rat: Two step wrote: This man speaks truth.
Ah but I bet I'll still hear protests. Have fun matching your world-view to the facts. Earplugs go a long way to keeping the sand out of your ear canals. Goggles will help for your eyes.
I don't like people misquoting someone else, and then misquoting me. I said that the following was the truth:
Vile rat wrote: Breaking NDA isn't a reason not to vote for somebody honestly. That's a legal determination and between CCP and the CSM member. Being a CSM who never participated and was largely AWOL for the vast majority of his term is a bigger reason to not consider him.
Note that I didn't just quote the first sentence as you did. I consider the last sentence far more important. The NDA is a serious thing, but the stuff that we *know* d3 leaked was minor, and was just Mittens talking about leaking fake info to Riverini. If the leak was more substantive, it would have been a bigger issue. Vote Two step for CSM 7 CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog |

Karadion
435
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:59:00 -
[512] - Quote
Here's a simple question that Princess can answer. If there is nothing NDA breaching, then are you saying that the entire minutes in that meeting can be given out without question? IE if Darius were to give out the entire minutes under the argument by using their statement that few lines Darius intentionally leaked wasn't NDA breaking therefore the rest of the minutes must not be NDA breaking. Would that still be okay with you? The fact is, Darius did leak specific minutes from a meeting under NDA and the rest of the CSM6 team can't trust him anymore not to leak anymore minutes for his own gain. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 21:11:00 -
[513] - Quote
Two step wrote:Princess Bride wrote:But hey, if you don't wanna listen to someone you label a "pubbie", and you don't wanna listen to the NDA's author CCP, listen to one of your own, and a CSM to boot: Vile rat wrote: Breaking NDA isn't a reason not to vote for somebody honestly. That's a legal determination and between CCP and the CSM member.
And verified by another CSM, quoting Vile rat: Two step wrote: This man speaks truth.
Ah but I bet I'll still hear protests. Have fun matching your world-view to the facts. Earplugs go a long way to keeping the sand out of your ear canals. Goggles will help for your eyes. I don't like people misquoting someone else, and then misquoting me. I said that the following was the truth: Vile rat wrote: Breaking NDA isn't a reason not to vote for somebody honestly. That's a legal determination and between CCP and the CSM member. Being a CSM who never participated and was largely AWOL for the vast majority of his term is a bigger reason to not consider him.
Note that I didn't just quote the first sentence as you did. I consider the last sentence far more important. The NDA is a serious thing, but the stuff that we *know* d3 leaked was minor, and was just Mittens talking about leaking fake info to Riverini. If the leak was more substantive, it would have been a bigger issue.
I was quoting what was relevant to the point I was making. The other parts are not relevant, and I don't care if if bothers you that I dropped the irrelevant parts. That's common practice. You quoted the part I did along with other stuff and put a stamp of "TRUTH" on all of it. So now you're backing away from part of it? Part of what your bud said was "less than truth" now?
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 21:15:00 -
[514] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Here's a simple question that Princess can answer. If there is nothing NDA breaching, then are you saying that the entire minutes in that meeting can be given out without question? IE if Darius were to give out the entire minutes under the argument by using their statement that few lines Darius intentionally leaked wasn't NDA breaking therefore the rest of the minutes must not be NDA breaking. Would that still be okay with you? The fact is, Darius did leak specific minutes from a meeting under NDA and the rest of the CSM6 team can't trust him anymore not to leak anymore minutes for his own gain.
Hypothetical question is hypothetical. I won't entertain them and choose instead to look at the factual questions that actually happened.
If a frog had wings, it would not repetitively impact its own posterior. However a frog does not have wings, and the situation you lay out above did not happen and so it does not matter. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 21:29:00 -
[515] - Quote
Quote:It is not for CCP to determine whether the NDA was breached. Whether a contract has been violated or not is a question of law, and as such is for the courts to determine.
So show me the court decision that the NDA was violated or it didn't happen. And again, your guy is full of ****. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10031
|
Posted - 2012.02.17 21:31:00 -
[516] - Quote
Hello space friends, this seems like a lively discussion. Mind if I join? Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 21:47:00 -
[517] - Quote
Hey Lyris, glad you could join us. To catch you up to speed, I'll summarize the past few pages:
Where I repeatedly bump The Mittani's CSM election thread...
Where they to do the same...
Where I point out that Mittens is not being factual when he says that Darius III is a "CDA-breaching incompetent" since CCP insists the CDA was not breached and no court has ruled otherwise...
Where they attempt to defend Mittani's slander as expected...
Where I quote their own statements on the subject back to them, in which they agree with me...
Where they get indignant and try to change the subject to Darius III's alleged faults, hypotheticals, and philosophy...
Where I ignore their diversionary tactics and stick to the point... which is that The Mittani is mud-slinging.
Your input? http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.02.17 21:53:00 -
[518] - Quote
You're not a space friend, are you? |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10031
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Posted - 2012.02.17 21:55:00 -
[519] - Quote
My input?
By responding at all to this thread you are giving The Mittani what he wants, which is threefold: first, you are using your time and effort to focus on him and his antics; second, you are keeping this thread bumped so that he maintains popular name recognition and can later point to the length of the thread to gloat about "whining pubbies," "threadnought," and other such things to gloat; third, you are by virtue of the first two points not doing other, more enjoyable things with your time. It is entirely possible that you derive enjoyment and satisfaction from arguing in circles with idiots on the Internet, and if so then more power to you and honestly I'm quite jealous since you've got a goldmine of never-ending bliss at your fingertips; but, if that is not the case, then you are allowing a megalomaniac to dominate your time, effort, and emotions. In short, you are losing by even participating.
I'd suggest that instead of wasting your time, you vote for me. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Tyrion Struan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.02.17 21:55:00 -
[520] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Quote:It is not for CCP to determine whether the NDA was breached. Whether a contract has been violated or not is a question of law, and as such is for the courts to determine. So show me the court decision that the NDA was violated or it didn't happen. And again, your guy is full of ****.
We are moving along nicely. You have now come to the realisation that CCP is not the final arbitrator in the world on what is and is not. Next step. You claim something to be, that there has been no violation of the NDA. CCP says they have no proof. These are different things. You seem to now be set on courts having the final word, this would mean that for you to say that there has been no violation would require you to be able to show a court ruling to that effect. Barring this you cannot establish a lie, only an inaccuracy of a statement. Which is pretty much what Vile has done.
Tbh I couldn't care less about what Darius did and did not do when it comes to the NDA, according to his own statement he don't seem to have done a lot of anything, so I suppose its a good thing that he at least once was in an NDA protected channel. |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10031
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Posted - 2012.02.17 21:56:00 -
[521] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:You're not a space friend, are you? I am Lyris Nairn, the pubbie born, space friend to all. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2012.02.17 21:57:00 -
[522] - Quote
So if I promise you not to pee on your leg, and then I pee on your leg, but you don't want to acknowledge the fact that I just peed on your leg because that's pretty embarrassing and it was just a little bit of pee, hardly worth getting upset over, then could I truthfully say that I did not break my "no leg peeing" promise? |

Karadion
435
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Posted - 2012.02.17 21:57:00 -
[523] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Karadion wrote:Here's a simple question that Princess can answer. If there is nothing NDA breaching, then are you saying that the entire minutes in that meeting can be given out without question? IE if Darius were to give out the entire minutes under the argument by using their statement that few lines Darius intentionally leaked wasn't NDA breaking therefore the rest of the minutes must not be NDA breaking. Would that still be okay with you? The fact is, Darius did leak specific minutes from a meeting under NDA and the rest of the CSM6 team can't trust him anymore not to leak anymore minutes for his own gain. Hypothetical question is hypothetical. I won't entertain them and choose instead to look at the factual questions that actually happened. If a frog had wings, it would not repetitively impact its own posterior. However a frog does not have wings, and the situation you lay out above did not happen and so it does not matter. Yes, exactly. You choose to selectively pick out what you want to make your point for your BFF. Fact is Darius did leak minutes from an NDA meeting where they were all under the impression that the minutes were not going to be given out. The specific parts of the minutes were deemed by CCP not to be critical but if it had compromised of information based on such as Tech moons are going to be nerfed / other moons are going to be buffed, then CCP would be freaking out. But this one was based on insulting Riverini in an NDA meeting, a corp mate of Darius, and Darius didn't like that so he told Riverini. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:12:00 -
[524] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:My input?
By responding at all to this thread you are giving The Mittani what he wants, which is threefold: first, you are using your time and effort to focus on him and his antics; second, you are keeping this thread bumped so that he maintains popular name recognition and can later point to the length of the thread to gloat about "whining pubbies," "threadnought," and other such things to gloat; third, you are by virtue of the first two points not doing other, more enjoyable things with your time. It is entirely possible that you derive enjoyment and satisfaction from arguing in circles with idiots on the Internet, and if so then more power to you and honestly I'm quite jealous since you've got a goldmine of never-ending bliss at your fingertips; but, if that is not the case, then you are allowing a megalomaniac to dominate your time, effort, and emotions. In short, you are losing by even participating.
I'd suggest that instead of wasting your time, you vote for me.
Where I repeatedly bump The Mittani's CSM election thread...
Where they to do the same...
Maybe I'm just a spai, sent to bump his thread. Ah, wheels within wheels...
Actually, every now and again I do get in the mood to argue in circles with idiots on the internet. This is indeed one of those times, and at the moment I am quite content. But thank you for your concern. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
510
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:13:00 -
[525] - Quote
Johnny Marzetti wrote:Now, I believe this is The Mittani's thread. Don't make me pee on your leg again.
I believe just you bringing the subject back to The Mittani's impending election involves peeing on her leg, so... keep at it? Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
94
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:14:00 -
[526] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote: Actually, every now and again I do get in the mood to argue in circles with idiots on the internet.
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Tyrion Struan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:15:00 -
[527] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:
So by your own admission, Mittani's characterization of Darius III in his one-line insult/summary was based on something completely irrelevant. Also, by ignoring your lame hypothetical I'm "picking and choosing" my facts? No. I'm distinguishing facts from hypothetical garbage. That's different.
Nope. He made an assessment. He is free to do that, and better placed to do so than both of us (unless you're privy to the NDA). You are calling him out as a lier based on CCP saying that they lack proof. This does, however, not mean that there was no breach of the NDA. The worst thing you can call him out for is to not have begun his statement with "In my assessment..." Which, I think, is a rather lame outcall. Again, I don't care, I just think its fun that you holding others to standards in their arguments that you are not able to meet yourself, that is my amusement and only concern in this. So by your argument you are a lying [insert derogatory term here], because you are no able to show the truth of your statement that there has been a lie.
I have no doubt that you will now either put your head back into the sand with another statement of, "no, that is not what I said", or once more move the goalpost. |

Karadion
436
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:16:00 -
[528] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Karadion wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Karadion wrote:Here's a simple question that Princess can answer. If there is nothing NDA breaching, then are you saying that the entire minutes in that meeting can be given out without question? IE if Darius were to give out the entire minutes under the argument by using their statement that few lines Darius intentionally leaked wasn't NDA breaking therefore the rest of the minutes must not be NDA breaking. Would that still be okay with you? The fact is, Darius did leak specific minutes from a meeting under NDA and the rest of the CSM6 team can't trust him anymore not to leak anymore minutes for his own gain. Hypothetical question is hypothetical. I won't entertain them and choose instead to look at the factual questions that actually happened. If a frog had wings, it would not repetitively impact its own posterior. However a frog does not have wings, and the situation you lay out above did not happen and so it does not matter. Yes, exactly. You choose to selectively pick out what you want to make your point for your BFF. Fact is Darius did leak minutes from an NDA meeting where they were all under the impression that the minutes were not going to be given out. The specific parts of the minutes were deemed by CCP not to be critical but if it had compromised of information based on such as Tech moons are going to be nerfed / other moons are going to be buffed, then CCP would be freaking out. But this one was based on insulting Riverini in an NDA meeting, a corp mate of Darius, and Darius didn't like that so he told Riverini. So by your own admission, Mittani's characterization of Darius III in his one-line insult/summary was based on something completely irrelevant. Also, by ignoring your lame hypothetical I'm "picking and choosing" my facts? No. I'm distinguishing facts from hypothetical garbage. That's different. It may have been based on something trivial but facts is that it came from an NDA meeting, did it not? Yes or no. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:18:00 -
[529] - Quote
Johnny Marzetti wrote:So you're saying...
Why do I get the feeling you're about to try to put words in my mouth, and tell me what I was saying...
Quote: *bunch of crap I didn't say*
Honestly, after reading the guy's thread I think I'll just not vote for him because of his posting. How's that?
Now, I believe this is The Mittani's thread. Don't make me pee on your leg again.
I don't care who you vote for. Why would I? *confused* http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:20:00 -
[530] - Quote
Quote: It may have been based on something trivial but facts is that it came from an NDA meeting, did it not? Yes or no.
What's a NDA meeting? http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
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Karadion
436
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:22:00 -
[531] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Quote: It may have been based on something trivial but facts is that it came from an NDA meeting, did it not? Yes or no.
What's a NDA meeting? Yes or no, did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. That's it. That's all I want to hear. Yes or no. |

Rochefort Trappistes
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:24:00 -
[532] - Quote
Johnny Marzetti wrote:Princess Bride wrote: Actually, every now and again I do get in the mood to argue in circles with idiots on the internet.
localhost is 127.0.0.1
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Get with the times. |

Boris Lachenkov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
22
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:27:00 -
[533] - Quote
You guys are getting way off topic.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
510
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:31:00 -
[534] - Quote
Boris Lachenkov wrote:You guys are getting way off topic.
Speaking of topics, a really cool topic is nerfing ECM, don't you think? Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

Boris Lachenkov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
22
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:32:00 -
[535] - Quote
ECM don't need a nerf, it needs a reboot.
ECM frigates need a use beyond gimmick/frigate roams. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10037
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:34:00 -
[536] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote: Maybe I'm just a spai, sent to bump his thread. Ah, wheels within wheels..
Let's clear this up right now then.
X up if you're a spy!
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10037
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:34:00 -
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X Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:34:00 -
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Tyrion Struan wrote:Princess Bride wrote:
So by your own admission, Mittani's characterization of Darius III in his one-line insult/summary was based on something completely irrelevant. Also, by ignoring your lame hypothetical I'm "picking and choosing" my facts? No. I'm distinguishing facts from hypothetical garbage. That's different.
Nope. He made an assessment. He is free to do that, and better placed to do so than both of us (unless you're privy to the NDA). You are calling him out as a lier based on CCP saying that they lack proof. This does, however, not mean that there was no breach of the NDA. The worst thing you can call him out for is to not have begun his statement with "In my assessment..." Which, I think, is a rather lame outcall. Again, I don't care, I just think its fun that you holding others to standards in their arguments that you are not able to meet yourself, that is my amusement and only concern in this. So by your argument you are a lying [insert derogatory term here], because you are no able to show the truth of your statement that there has been a lie. I have no doubt that you will now either put your head back into the sand with another statement of, "no, that is not what I said", or once more move the goalpost.
Hmm let's go over this one last time:
As other CSMs have said, and as I have repeatedly quoted them saying, and you have failed to disprove, the determination of whether a NDA is breached or not is a legal question. As such, it is either true because it has been proven at law, or it is not true, because it has not. Think "Innocent until proven guilty" here, as you seem to be having trouble (probably intentionally) understanding this point. As many in this thread have argued, it seems that unless a legal determination has been made that the NDA was breached, it has not been breached. And as there is no such determination, nor is the author of the NDA and alleged "victim" in this incident asserting that there was a breach, we can safely assume that there was no breach. Yet you rant on about the semantics of it all and attempt to invalidate my argument with something akin to "How can we know whether I am the dream of the butterfly, or the butterfly part of my dream?"
You have waxed poetic on the subjects of objective reality, the definition of the word "fact" and other theoretical nonsense in an attempt to muddy the waters and obscure The Mittani's mud-slinging. That's great, and you've done a fine job of it. Hopefully, you are being paid for the service.
Next I expect you will propose an argument on the definition of the word "of" or perhaps continue to paraphrase your undergrad philosophy text. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Skye Aurorae
No Bull Ships
159
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:35:00 -
[539] - Quote
I'm a Spy!
XXXXX Skye Aurora is a 7 year old Girl Who Wants to be on the CSM! Unfortunately, the Lawyers say you have to be 21, so.. Vote for Scott Manley / Skye Aurorae for CSM 7 An Expert in Dealing with Childish Arguments Over Toys. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68506 |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
510
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:38:00 -
[540] - Quote
Boris Lachenkov wrote:ECM don't need a nerf, it needs a reboot.
ECM frigates need a use beyond gimmick/frigate roams. You mean EW frigates in general, probably.
Also, all other forms of EW get stacking penalized on the target, while ECM does not. It is also possible to be immune to the other EW forms (or to use in-combat maneuvers to minimize their effect) but impossible to do so against ECM other than via fitting ECCM. Also a Falcon touched my Rifter in naughty places.
Oh, and:
X spy who is also a CEO reporting in Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:39:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Quote: It may have been based on something trivial but facts is that it came from an NDA meeting, did it not? Yes or no.
What's a NDA meeting? Yes or no, did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. That's it. That's all I want to hear. Yes or no.
Yes or no. Now that you've heard all you want to hear, perhaps you'll now answer MY question?
What's a NDA meeting? http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Karadion
436
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:41:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:Karadion wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Quote: It may have been based on something trivial but facts is that it came from an NDA meeting, did it not? Yes or no.
What's a NDA meeting? Yes or no, did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. That's it. That's all I want to hear. Yes or no. Yes or no. Now that you've heard all you want to hear, perhaps you'll now answer MY question? What's a NDA meeting? I still haven't gotten my answer.
Did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. Yes or no. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10037
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:42:00 -
[543] - Quote
Petrus Blackshell wrote:Boris Lachenkov wrote:ECM don't need a nerf, it needs a reboot.
ECM frigates need a use beyond gimmick/frigate roams. You mean EW frigates in general, probably. Also, all other forms of EW get stacking penalized on the target, while ECM does not. It is also possible to be immune to the other EW forms (or to use in-combat maneuvers to minimize their effect) but impossible to do so against ECM other than via fitting ECCM. Also a Falcon touched my Rifter in naughty places. Oh, and: X spy who is also a CEO reporting in I am sure he was referring to the Griffin and Kitsune specifically. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
510
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:43:00 -
[544] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:I am sure he was referring to the Griffin and Kitsune specifically. He was, but the Crucifier, Sentinel, Vigil, Hyena, Maulus and Keres could all use a looksee too. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:44:00 -
[545] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Karadion wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Quote: It may have been based on something trivial but facts is that it came from an NDA meeting, did it not? Yes or no.
What's a NDA meeting? Yes or no, did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. That's it. That's all I want to hear. Yes or no. Yes or no. Now that you've heard all you want to hear, perhaps you'll now answer MY question? What's a NDA meeting? I still haven't gotten my answer. Did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. Yes or no.
You still haven't clarified your question. When you do, I will answer. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Karadion
436
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:46:00 -
[546] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Karadion wrote:I still haven't gotten my answer.
Did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. Yes or no. You still haven't clarified your question. When you do, I will answer. Are the contents of the minutes in that meeting under NDA. You know this answer. The answer is yes. Back to you, Bob.
Did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. Yes or no. |

Boris Lachenkov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
23
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:47:00 -
[547] - Quote
As you mentioned, the other types of EW frigates are pretty bad and need a rework. Perhaps that is a push change for another expansion labelled "Warfare".
Not sure what the change would be, in all honesty. A flat change to how much the modules can stack but seriously, a new methnaught would be amazing. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:50:00 -
[548] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Karadion wrote:I still haven't gotten my answer.
Did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. Yes or no. You still haven't clarified your question. When you do, I will answer. Are the contents of the minutes in that meeting under NDA. You know this answer. The answer is yes. Back to you, Bob. Did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. Yes or no.
If the statements that were "leaked" came from a meeting that was covered by the NDA between CCP and the CSM, then evidence of the leaks (which we all acknowledge exist) would have been evidence of a breach of the NDA. As CCP has clearly stated, they have seen no evidence of a breach of the NDA, therefore, the meeting was not covered under the NDA. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Karadion
436
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:51:00 -
[549] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Karadion wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Karadion wrote:I still haven't gotten my answer.
Did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. Yes or no. You still haven't clarified your question. When you do, I will answer. Are the contents of the minutes in that meeting under NDA. You know this answer. The answer is yes. Back to you, Bob. Did the trivial statements come from a meeting that was under NDA. Yes or no. If the statements that were "leaked" came from a meeting that was covered by the NDA between CCP and the CSM, then evidence of the leaks (which we all acknowledge exist) would have been evidence of a breach of the NDA. As CCP has clearly stated, they have seen no evidence of a breach of the NDA, therefore, the meeting was not covered under the NDA. Yes or no. You have a reading comprehension of a child. Prove me wrong. |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
510
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Posted - 2012.02.17 22:52:00 -
[550] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote: If the statements that were "leaked" came from a meeting that was covered by the NDA between CCP and the CSM, then evidence of the leaks (which we all acknowledge exist) would have been evidence of a breach of the NDA. As CCP has clearly stated, they have seen no evidence of a breach of the NDA, therefore, the meeting was not covered under the NDA.
The issue is they did come from such meeting, but it wasn't super privileged info that was worth making a mess over, so CCP simply called it a non-issue. Mittens still thought it was an issue, presumably because he did not want the info shared, and keeps calling D3 a NDA-breaker. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
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Tyrion Struan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.02.17 23:00:00 -
[551] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Tyrion Struan wrote:Princess Bride wrote:
So by your own admission, Mittani's characterization of Darius III in his one-line insult/summary was based on something completely irrelevant. Also, by ignoring your lame hypothetical I'm "picking and choosing" my facts? No. I'm distinguishing facts from hypothetical garbage. That's different.
Nope. He made an assessment. He is free to do that, and better placed to do so than both of us (unless you're privy to the NDA). You are calling him out as a lier based on CCP saying that they lack proof. This does, however, not mean that there was no breach of the NDA. The worst thing you can call him out for is to not have begun his statement with "In my assessment..." Which, I think, is a rather lame outcall. Again, I don't care, I just think its fun that you holding others to standards in their arguments that you are not able to meet yourself, that is my amusement and only concern in this. So by your argument you are a lying [insert derogatory term here], because you are no able to show the truth of your statement that there has been a lie. I have no doubt that you will now either put your head back into the sand with another statement of, "no, that is not what I said", or once more move the goalpost. Hmm let's go over this one last time: As other CSMs have said, and as I have repeatedly quoted them saying, and you have failed to disprove, the determination of whether a NDA is breached or not is a legal question. As such, it is either true because it has been proven at law, or it is not true, because it has not. Think "Innocent until proven guilty" here, as you seem to be having trouble (probably intentionally) understanding this point. As many in this thread have argued, it seems that unless a legal determination has been made that the NDA was breached, it has not been breached. And as there is no such determination, nor is the author of the NDA and alleged "victim" in this incident asserting that there was a breach, we can safely assume that there was no breach. Yet you rant on about the semantics of it all and attempt to invalidate my argument with something akin to "How can we know whether I am the dream of the butterfly, or the butterfly part of my dream?" You have waxed poetic on the subjects of objective reality, the definition of the word "fact" and other theoretical nonsense in an attempt to muddy the waters and obscure The Mittani's mud-slinging. That's great, and you've done a fine job of it. Hopefully, you are being paid for the service. Next I expect you will propose an argument on the definition of the word "of" or perhaps continue to paraphrase your undergrad philosophy text.
X - spy.
And no. You are making a rather common mistake in the application of innocent utill prove guilty. This applies in the eyes of the law, but does not mean that a thing has or has not happened. Also, it applies in criminal law, which this is not. (You've seen to many cop shows.) That something is a legal issue - like if Marzetti has promised not to pee on your leg or not and whether he has violated that promise or not - does not mean that it may not have taken place unless it has been found to be so by a court. I have never been found guilty of exeeding the speed limit, doesn't mean that I never have. The alleged victime has chosen to say that they lack proof, and apparently in in private that though it was said in a channel where all information was to be considered priviliged under the NDA, that this particular information did not. As a matter of law that is an assessment, and no more. Its not desicive either way.
Oh, and just so no one thinks that I'm claiming e-peen here, I neither hold, nor have I ever studied for, an undergrad in philosophy. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 23:00:00 -
[552] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Princess Bride wrote: If the statements that were "leaked" came from a meeting that was covered by the NDA between CCP and the CSM, then evidence of the leaks (which we all acknowledge exist) would have been evidence of a breach of the NDA. As CCP has clearly stated, they have seen no evidence of a breach of the NDA, therefore, the meeting was not covered under the NDA.
Yes or no. You have a reading comprehension of a child. Prove me wrong.
Wow. Okay, to clarify for the literalists:
If the statements that were "leaked" came from a meeting that was covered by the NDA between CCP and the CSM, then evidence of the leaks (which we all acknowledge exist) would have been evidence of a breach of the NDA. As CCP has clearly stated, they have seen no evidence of a breach of the NDA, therefore, NO the meeting was not covered under the NDA.
Proof:
CCP Diagoras wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Didn't get enough NDA leaking during CSM6?
We have not seen evidence of any NDA breaches. Should you have any, please feel free to contact us via the petition system.
http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
111
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Posted - 2012.02.17 23:15:00 -
[553] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Karadion wrote:Princess Bride wrote: If the statements that were "leaked" came from a meeting that was covered by the NDA between CCP and the CSM, then evidence of the leaks (which we all acknowledge exist) would have been evidence of a breach of the NDA. As CCP has clearly stated, they have seen no evidence of a breach of the NDA, therefore, the meeting was not covered under the NDA.
Yes or no. You have a reading comprehension of a child. Prove me wrong. Wow. Okay, to clarify for the literalists: If the statements that were "leaked" came from a meeting that was covered by the NDA between CCP and the CSM, then evidence of the leaks (which we all acknowledge exist) would have been evidence of a breach of the NDA. As CCP has clearly stated, they have seen no evidence of a breach of the NDA, therefore, NO the meeting was not covered under the NDA. Proof: CCP Diagoras wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Didn't get enough NDA leaking during CSM6?
We have not seen evidence of any NDA breaches. Should you have any, please feel free to contact us via the petition system.
I think the Goons and everyone else with any kind of common sense has been arguing that the fact that CCP found what D3 leaked to not be NDA-breaking is beside the point. The concern is that D3 willfully and purposefully leaked information from a channel that was clearly defined to be protected by NDA. After the fact, CCP reiterated that the channel was protected by NDA and that nothing from that channel should be leaked.
What does that say about D3's character? He either doesn't hold a lot of regard for NDA, is some kind of billionaire in real life and doesn't afraid of any litigation, or has a distinct and disturbing lack of common sense. I don't find any of those options particularly comforting, especially in someone who could potentially be representing my interests on the CSM.
On a side point, your idea that you can half-quote something like you did with Two Step's post and still retain the entire truth and meaning of his words is ludicrous. Please just remove D3's ******* from your mouth, it'll save everyone a lot of trouble.
Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7 |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 23:16:00 -
[554] - Quote
Tyrion Struan wrote:
And no. You are making a rather common mistake in the application of innocent utill prove guilty. This applies in the eyes of the law, but does not mean that a thing has or has not happened. Also, it applies in criminal law, which this is not. (You've seen to many cop shows.) That something is a legal issue - like if Marzetti has promised not to pee on your leg or not and whether he has violated that promise or not - does not mean that it may not have taken place unless it has been found to be so by a court. I have never been found guilty of exeeding the speed limit, doesn't mean that I never have. The alleged victime has chosen to say that they lack proof, and apparently in in private that though it was said in a channel where all information was to be considered priviliged under the NDA, that this particular information did not. As a matter of law that is an assessment, and no more. Its not desicive either way.
Oh, and just so no one thinks that I'm claiming e-peen here, I neither hold, nor have I ever studied for, an undergrad in philosophy.
My goodness. If you cut out all of the condescending parts, you're not even left with something funny, just kinda sad.
Again, you're failing to differentiate between a determination of law, which the question of breach clearly is, and a determination of fact. I am not questioning whether someone's leg was peed upon, nor whether information from a chat was leaked. The first I'm sure is true in some context, and the second I can stipulate to. The question is whether Darius III breached his NDA with CCP. That's a legal question, and as CCP has stated they have seen no evidence of a breach, it's safe to assume there was no breach. If there was no breach, which again is a legal question, then Mittani's statement that there was a breach is mud slinging.
You seem stuck on this word "assessment". Relabeling a legal determination made by a non-party does not make it any more valid. It could be my "assessment" that my neighbor trespassed on another neighbor's property. However, when I make the statement "He trespassed", that does not make a legal truth of it. That would be a legal determination. If my neighbor is not alleging trespass, and a court has not found this to be the case, then I can "assess" this all I want. I could have witnessed one neighbor walking on another neighbor's land. But that doesn't mean there was a trespass. Perhaps there was an easement I don't know about.
Your main argument seems to be that The Mittani was not lying, only being ignorant. Either way, politically motivated ignorance is still mud slinging.
Also, when being condescending, please make a better effort to keep your writings clear of obvious errors. Trying to look down on me when you are adding extra Ls to until, Es to victim, Is to privilege, dropping the C in decisive, etc. does little to prove your condescension is valid. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Karadion
436
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Posted - 2012.02.17 23:18:00 -
[555] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Karadion wrote:Princess Bride wrote: If the statements that were "leaked" came from a meeting that was covered by the NDA between CCP and the CSM, then evidence of the leaks (which we all acknowledge exist) would have been evidence of a breach of the NDA. As CCP has clearly stated, they have seen no evidence of a breach of the NDA, therefore, the meeting was not covered under the NDA.
Yes or no. You have a reading comprehension of a child. Prove me wrong. Wow. Okay, to clarify for the literalists: If the statements that were "leaked" came from a meeting that was covered by the NDA between CCP and the CSM, then evidence of the leaks (which we all acknowledge exist) would have been evidence of a breach of the NDA. As CCP has clearly stated, they have seen no evidence of a breach of the NDA, therefore, NO the meeting was not covered under the NDA. Proof: CCP Diagoras wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Didn't get enough NDA leaking during CSM6?
We have not seen evidence of any NDA breaches. Should you have any, please feel free to contact us via the petition system.
I didn't ask for that answer. Yes or no. That's all I wanted. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 23:27:00 -
[556] - Quote
Vordak Kallager wrote: I think the Goons and everyone else with any kind of common sense has been arguing that the fact that CCP found what D3 leaked to not be NDA-breaking is beside the point. The concern is that D3 willfully and purposefully leaked information from a channel that was clearly defined to be protected by NDA. After the fact, CCP reiterated that the channel was protected by NDA and that nothing from that channel should be leaked.
What does that say about D3's character? He either doesn't hold a lot of regard for NDA, is some kind of billionaire in real life and doesn't afraid of any litigation, or has a distinct and disturbing lack of common sense. I don't find any of those options particularly comforting, especially in someone who could potentially be representing my interests on the CSM.
On a side point, your idea that you can half-quote something like you did with Two Step's post and still retain the entire truth and meaning of his words is ludicrous. Please just remove D3's ******* from your mouth, it'll save everyone a lot of trouble.
I would argue that if the meeting was so clearly covered under the NDA, then Darius would not have "leaked" information from it. That answer seems far more likely than Darius being a billionaire or any of your other theories. Also, I would argue that if it was clearly covered under the NDA, then evidence of the leak would be evidence of a breach of the NDA, and CCP would not have stated that they have seen no evidence of a breach.
Then after he basically told his friend, "Hey they called you an ******* in that meeting" or whatever the "leak" was, CCP clarified that those meetings were indeed covered under the NDA...probably under one of the more sweeping clauses and not specified precisely, and life went on.
My point is that Mittani has turned this into a personal slanderous attack, implying a serious breach of trust that should preclude him from being a CSM. This is clearly false, and clearly mud-slinging.
Also, I'm not here to save you trouble nor to save you from your obvious homophobic issues. But I'd look into that with some self-reflection if I were you. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.17 23:30:00 -
[557] - Quote
Karadion wrote: I didn't ask for that answer. Yes or no. That's all I wanted.
Hmmmm. Get used to disappointment? If you made the rules, which you don't, I wouldn't be here participating. If a clear answer to your question isn't good enough for you because it contained more than a single word, then perhaps I'm not the one who has reading comprehension problems. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.18 00:04:00 -
[558] - Quote
So, that's it, we're done here? Good. It was just starting to grow wearisome.
With that I proclaim that The Mittani has engaged in mud-slinging and political slanders and will not get my vote unless he removes his unfair characterization of Darius III as a CSM who breached CCP's NDA. Not only is this untrue, but CCP has taken the trouble of pointing out that they have not even so much as seen evidence of it. All arguments to the contrary have been neatly put to bed and it's time that The Mittani come out of the shadows and admit to his slanderous back-biting dirty politics, or expect to lose the vote of all Eve players who are sick of such strategies.
If The Mittani is willing to lie about this, what else is he willing to lie to you about? http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.02.18 00:07:00 -
[559] - Quote
Yay for The Mittani ! |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10042
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Posted - 2012.02.18 00:11:00 -
[560] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:So, that's it, we're done here? Good. It was just starting to grow wearisome.
With that I proclaim that The Mittani has engaged in mud-slinging and political slanders and will not get my vote unless he removes his unfair characterization of Darius III as a CSM who breached CCP's NDA. Not only is this untrue, but CCP has taken the trouble of pointing out that they have not even so much as seen evidence of it. All arguments to the contrary have been neatly put to bed and it's time that The Mittani come out of the shadows and admit to his slanderous back-biting dirty politics, or expect to lose the vote of all Eve players who are sick of such strategies.
If The Mittani is willing to lie about this, what else is he willing to lie to you about? Would you vote for me, then? Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
152
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Posted - 2012.02.18 00:21:00 -
[561] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Princess Bride wrote:So, that's it, we're done here? Good. It was just starting to grow wearisome.
With that I proclaim that The Mittani has engaged in mud-slinging and political slanders and will not get my vote unless he removes his unfair characterization of Darius III as a CSM who breached CCP's NDA. Not only is this untrue, but CCP has taken the trouble of pointing out that they have not even so much as seen evidence of it. All arguments to the contrary have been neatly put to bed and it's time that The Mittani come out of the shadows and admit to his slanderous back-biting dirty politics, or expect to lose the vote of all Eve players who are sick of such strategies.
If The Mittani is willing to lie about this, what else is he willing to lie to you about? Would you vote for me, then?
To be completely honest I doubt I'll actually notice that the voting has begun and end up not casting a vote. If I do though, I'll seriously consider voting for you, based on posts of yours that have caught my attention in the past. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10043
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Posted - 2012.02.18 00:27:00 -
[562] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Princess Bride wrote:So, that's it, we're done here? Good. It was just starting to grow wearisome.
With that I proclaim that The Mittani has engaged in mud-slinging and political slanders and will not get my vote unless he removes his unfair characterization of Darius III as a CSM who breached CCP's NDA. Not only is this untrue, but CCP has taken the trouble of pointing out that they have not even so much as seen evidence of it. All arguments to the contrary have been neatly put to bed and it's time that The Mittani come out of the shadows and admit to his slanderous back-biting dirty politics, or expect to lose the vote of all Eve players who are sick of such strategies.
If The Mittani is willing to lie about this, what else is he willing to lie to you about? Would you vote for me, then? To be completely honest I doubt I'll actually notice that the voting has begun and end up not casting a vote. If I do though, I'll seriously consider voting for you, based on posts of yours that have caught my attention in the past. If as you say you are not likely to vote at all, then I would be so bold as to propose that your opinion is of minimal significance to any of the candidates running in the election. I am further given evidence that you are in fact a Goon spy within your organisation, serving no purpose but to undermine the Pubby Proletariat by keeping The Mittani's thread bumped to the top of Page 1. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10050
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 00:42:00 -
[563] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:keeping The Mittani's thread bumped to the top of Page 1. Is this op peacetime reimbuseable? :siren: RIFTERSWARM :siren: Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; RIFTERSWARM : Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar; Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
120
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 00:58:00 -
[564] - Quote
Princess, I really have to point out that your arguments are all based on Logical fallacies.
Go Here, or better yet try to avoid the two you seem to make HERE, and HERE.
Your entire argument is based on you either affirming the consequent, or denying the antecedent. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10050
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 01:06:00 -
[565] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:Princess, I really have to point out that your arguments are all based on Logical fallacies. Go Here, or better yet try to avoid the two you seem to make HERE, and HERE. Your entire argument is based on you either affirming the consequent, or denying the antecedent. Dearest Space Friend,
No one on the forums dot EVE Online gives a damn about formal debate, logical consistency or rhetorical philosophy.
You will find only disappointment and frustration should you continue down the road of trying to enlighten the masses.
Warm regards,
GÖÑ Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; RIFTERSWARM : Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar; Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Courthouse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
80
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 09:12:00 -
[566] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:Princess, I really have to point out that your arguments are all based on Logical fallacies. Go Here, or better yet try to avoid the two you seem to make HERE, and HERE. Your entire argument is based on you either affirming the consequent, or denying the antecedent. You keep this up and you may just find a boot up your antecedent. |

Ishen Villone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 15:41:00 -
[567] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:Princess, I really have to point out that your arguments are all based on Logical fallacies. Go Here, or better yet try to avoid the two you seem to make HERE, and HERE. Your entire argument is based on you either affirming the consequent, or denying the antecedent.
Reset GoonWaffe.
Wait. Damnit. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
396
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 16:04:00 -
[568] - Quote
Ishen Villone wrote:Falin Whalen wrote:Princess, I really have to point out that your arguments are all based on Logical fallacies. Go Here, or better yet try to avoid the two you seem to make HERE, and HERE. Your entire argument is based on you either affirming the consequent, or denying the antecedent. Reset GoonWaffe. Wait. Damnit.
You are just qq'ing people before you pp on them.
(Hopefully everyone clicked the links and did their homework, so I dont look foolish) disorientating |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10061
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 16:06:00 -
[569] - Quote
rodyas wrote:Ishen Villone wrote:Falin Whalen wrote:Princess, I really have to point out that your arguments are all based on Logical fallacies. Go Here, or better yet try to avoid the two you seem to make HERE, and HERE. Your entire argument is based on you either affirming the consequent, or denying the antecedent. Reset GoonWaffe. Wait. Damnit. You are just qq'ing people before you pp on them. (Hopefully everyone clicked the links and did their homework, so I dont look foolish) Heh, you think people think. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; RIFTERSWARM : Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar; Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
396
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 16:14:00 -
[570] - Quote
I decry the straw man argument on that. Thinking is hard, but math wasnt involved so I had a little hope. disorientating |
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doombreed52
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
26
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 16:16:00 -
[571] - Quote
Havent filled thread with post for aa few pages posting to fill spam mail. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10110
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 17:47:00 -
[572] - Quote
rodyas wrote:I decry the straw man argument on that. Thinking is hard, but math wasnt involved so I had a little hope. Few people on this forum care for the rules of formal debate. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; RIFTERSWARM : Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar; Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
397
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 18:06:00 -
[573] - Quote
The people are too desperate for formal debate, its a free for all. disorientating |

Talamant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
14
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 18:07:00 -
[574] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:Princess, I really have to point out that your arguments are all based on Logical fallacies. Go Here, or better yet try to avoid the two you seem to make HERE, and HERE. Your entire argument is based on you either affirming the consequent, or denying the antecedent. :siren: BADPOSTING DETECTED :siren: |

Volgram
Imperium Immortalis Ab Jove Principium
1
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Posted - 2012.02.18 18:09:00 -
[575] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:
Become a constituent. Vote Mittani.
I have but a simple question.
Of all the questions that one individual or several groups could think about, this sole question seems to me the most significant. And thus, I wish to ask you this:
What is your vision for our sandbox?
The CSM might not have game changing power, prehaps not even any power at all. The final decision always lies with CCP. However, with all of this seemingly "powerlessness", we still see men and women who wish to be a beacon that the masses can rally behind. Yet, no "power" is within their grasp.
I would imagine that being on the CSM, sometimes a person has to go to great lengths to ensure that our game, our sandbox, still looks the way we know it. Sometimes without benefit to oneself and, prehaps, even to the detriment of one's surroundings.
So, in essence, I ask:
What drives you to continue your work in the CSM? What is your vision? |

Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
87
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 19:00:00 -
[576] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:a delightful sacrifice in the finest democratic tradition~
http://kb.batcountry-eve.org/index.php/cc_detail/4/
500 has come and gone, and the thirst for blood has not subsided. |

Devalis
CyberShield Inc ROMANIAN-LEGION
4
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 22:21:00 -
[577] - Quote
Why is your dog punching your junk? Little weird bro! |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5224
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 23:21:00 -
[578] - Quote
I forgot to troll Jita Park for two days because I've been too busy playing in Red vs Blue with a 400mm plated Rifter.
Couple of things:
1. I withdraw my prior support for any kind of batlteground/instanced PvP arena. This is not needed, as Red vs Blue provides exactly that.
2. You guys should give it a whirl, it's like Syndicate in 2006 - frigate slugfests and no supercaps. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5224
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 23:29:00 -
[579] - Quote
Volgram wrote:The Mittani wrote:
Become a constituent. Vote Mittani.
I have but a simple question. Of all the questions that one individual or several groups could think about, this sole question seems to me the most significant. And thus, I wish to ask you this: What is your vision for our sandbox? The CSM might not have game changing power, prehaps not even any power at all. The final decision always lies with CCP. However, with all of this seemingly "powerlessness", we still see men and women who wish to be a beacon that the masses can rally behind. Yet, no "power" is within their grasp. I would imagine that being on the CSM, sometimes a person has to go to great lengths to ensure that our game, our sandbox, still looks the way we know it. Sometimes without benefit to oneself and, prehaps, even to the detriment of one's surroundings. So, in essence, I ask: What drives you to continue your work in the CSM? What is your vision?
Your question is a funny one, because it's predicated on a lot of 'the CSM has no power' assumptions and predicates, when it's pretty obvious that it does have power - at least, to the people who understand power, influence, and politics, those being the barons of nullsec. If I had a dime for every time a hisec miner bleated about how power 'really' works while updating their spreadsheets, I'd buy another house in cash.
That power can't be allowed to fall into the hands of drooling idiots, like it has in the past. The power also has to be used wisely to counteract the penchant of CCP's management-level suits to drink Kool-aid and consider their ideas (pants!) flawless despite criticism.
As CSM Chair, I offer sound guidance and guardianship of that power; I'm one of the first to truly wield it effectively. I'm here to protect the nullsec population against the existential danger of allowing an ignorant hiseccer and Greyscale to get together and talk about jump bridges. I'm here to keep the focus of the game on spaceships instead of a testbed for WoD or a venue for more pants. It's a guardianship.
My ideas are not particularly unique; all nullsec candidates have a similar worldview. What's unique about what I offer the CSM and EVE as a whole is a puissant understanding of politics, influence, dealmaking, and Getting Things Done. The record of CSM6 - the most successful CSM in history - is a testament to that savvy.
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5224
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 23:32:00 -
[580] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Tyrion Struan wrote:
And no. You are making a rather common mistake in the application of innocent utill prove guilty. This applies in the eyes of the law, but does not mean that a thing has or has not happened. Also, it applies in criminal law, which this is not. (You've seen to many cop shows.) That something is a legal issue - like if Marzetti has promised not to pee on your leg or not and whether he has violated that promise or not - does not mean that it may not have taken place unless it has been found to be so by a court. I have never been found guilty of exeeding the speed limit, doesn't mean that I never have. The alleged victime has chosen to say that they lack proof, and apparently in in private that though it was said in a channel where all information was to be considered priviliged under the NDA, that this particular information did not. As a matter of law that is an assessment, and no more. Its not desicive either way.
Oh, and just so no one thinks that I'm claiming e-peen here, I neither hold, nor have I ever studied for, an undergrad in philosophy.
My goodness. If you cut out all of the condescending parts, you're not even left with something funny, just kinda sad. Again, you're failing to differentiate between a determination of law, which the question of breach clearly is, and a determination of fact. I am not questioning whether someone's leg was peed upon, nor whether information from a chat was leaked. The first I'm sure is true in some context, and the second I can stipulate to. The question is whether Darius III breached his NDA with CCP. That's a legal question, and as CCP has stated they have seen no evidence of a breach, it's safe to assume there was no breach. If there was no breach, which again is a legal question, then Mittani's statement that there was a breach is mud slinging. You seem stuck on this word "assessment". Relabeling a legal determination made by a non-party does not make it any more valid. It could be my "assessment" that my neighbor trespassed on another neighbor's property. However, when I make the statement "He trespassed", that does not make a legal truth of it. That would be a legal determination. If my neighbor is not alleging trespass, and a court has not found this to be the case, then I can "assess" this all I want. I could have witnessed one neighbor walking on another neighbor's land. But that doesn't mean there was a trespass. Perhaps there was an easement I don't know about. Your main argument seems to be that The Mittani was not lying, only being ignorant. Either way, politically motivated ignorance is still mud slinging. Also, when being condescending, please make a better effort to keep your writings clear of obvious errors. Trying to look down on me when you are adding extra Ls to until, Es to victim, Is to privilege, dropping the C in decisive, etc. does little to prove your condescension is valid.
Are you writing a lot of words to say that I sling mud?
This is an election; deal with it. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5224
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 23:37:00 -
[581] - Quote
holy crap you guys spent the last three pages arguing about 'if i sling mud' and having non-lawyers trying to parse legal phrases
i sling mud, i scam supercaps, and i'm a sadist, this isn't new or particularly interesting
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
418
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 23:47:00 -
[582] - Quote
We could have worst sadists, then just ones that throw mud to get jollies.
Also on the RvB it does sound great and I can see what ya mean by it being a battleground or an arena. I suppose I usually dont like to talk about the isk costs of ship and supporting pvp through isk, Just alot of pvpers talk about needing isk to pvp. Wondering with how RvB is and what size of ship can be used to support it being arena based on isk making, or what ships are too big to sustain in arena use in RvB.
It seems what can be hard with arena, is the constant isk using to buy ships to keep fighting. Wondering if you have any ideas on isk useage in arena pvp really. disorientating |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
419
|
Posted - 2012.02.18 23:59:00 -
[583] - Quote
Well I was thinking of isk making potential and supporting arena pvp. It seems tech moons and high sec incursions are the best isk makers. Maybe that means hi seccer have potential to run arena and null seccers. Of course that isk is used to make titans and mothers, as well as reimburesment and whatever incursion runners buy. So some hard decisions would have to be made there I imagine. But it does seem low sec has no real way of making decent isk. I am not a sadist, so I wont mention them just doing low sec incursion if they want an arena style pvp.
So there are some decent isk makers to support arena play, but they do come with hard decisions and people who enjoy low sec would be hard hit up to make isk enough to join in. disorientating |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2115
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 00:26:00 -
[584] - Quote
"guys guys we need to nerf anomalies and jump bridges, people are making way too much ISK and projecting far too much power hey why is nullsec empty" yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
137
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 02:10:00 -
[585] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:i sling mud, i scam supercaps, and i'm a sadist, this isn't new or particularly interesting Mittani for CSM chair !
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
155
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 02:23:00 -
[586] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:holy crap you guys spent the last three pages arguing about 'if i sling mud' and having non-lawyers trying to parse legal phrases
i sling mud, i scam supercaps, and i'm a sadist, this isn't new or particularly interesting
What's most interesting about this statement is that your alliance has spent a lot of effort trying to draw the distinction between your role in-game (dishonest, scammer, etc.) and what you are in real life. It appears that they're wrong about you and we can expect the same things from you as a CSM as we expect in game. All those arguments about how Eve is a sandbox which excuses your in-game behavior and how silly people are for thinking you're not different in real life were for nothing.
Thank you for clearing that up. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5227
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 02:48:00 -
[587] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote: What's most interesting about this statement is that your alliance has spent a lot of effort trying to draw the distinction between your role in-game (dishonest, scammer, etc.) and what you are in real life. It appears that they're wrong about you and we can expect the same things from you as a CSM as we expect in game. All those arguments about how Eve is a sandbox which excuses your in-game behavior and how silly people are for thinking you're not different in real life were for nothing.
Thank you for clearing that up.
I'm an incumbent. You can expect exactly the same kind of stuff from me in CSM7 as you got in CSM6, the most effective CSM in history.
I'm delighted to run on my record. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
155
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 03:02:00 -
[588] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Princess Bride wrote: What's most interesting about this statement is that your alliance has spent a lot of effort trying to draw the distinction between your role in-game (dishonest, scammer, etc.) and what you are in real life. It appears that they're wrong about you and we can expect the same things from you as a CSM as we expect in game. All those arguments about how Eve is a sandbox which excuses your in-game behavior and how silly people are for thinking you're not different in real life were for nothing.
Thank you for clearing that up.
I'm an incumbent. You can expect exactly the same kind of stuff from me in CSM7 as you got in CSM6, the most effective CSM in history. I'm delighted to run on my record.
There's an old saying that "you can't make a good deal with bad people." I view a vote for a CSM as a contract between myself and the CSM. You are an admitted sadist, brag about slinging mud as a politician, and draw no distinction between you as a person and The Mittani. Regardless of how effective you say you were as a CSM last year, I feel its only a matter of time before you fall back on who you are as a person and politician. When this happens I think it's safe to say that you'll have no problem with screwing everyone over if you can... Eve, CCP, the players, and those who voted for you. I mean that's what mud-slinging sadists do, right? I'm sure it'll be lol-tastic too.
However, I'd rather vote for someone who is a decent human being to represent me in Iceland. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Solinuas
Viziam Amarr Empire
57
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 03:29:00 -
[589] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:
There's an old saying that "you can't make a good deal with bad people." I view a vote for a CSM as a contract between myself and the CSM. You are an admitted sadist, brag about slinging mud as a politician, and draw no distinction between you as a person and The Mittani. Regardless of how effective you say you were as a CSM last year, I feel its only a matter of time before you fall back on who you are as a person and politician. When this happens I think it's safe to say that you'll have no problem with screwing everyone over if you can... Eve, CCP, the players, and those who voted for you. I mean that's what mud-slinging sadists do, right? I'm sure it'll be lol-tastic too.
However, I'd rather vote for someone who is a decent human being to represent me in Iceland.
And because of this me and all of my alts shall vote for mittens! |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
155
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 04:06:00 -
[590] - Quote
Solinuas wrote: And because of this me and all of my alts shall vote for mittens!
Don't kid yourself. You and the rest of the goons will vote for him because you're a socially inept lemming who is happy to do what he's told because you live vicariously through The Mittani. The bigger he gets, the bigger and more important you'll feel. The fact that he's an admitted sadist and mudslinging politician who has trouble distinguishing between his role as a CSM and his role in-game will not affect your decision in either direction. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5228
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 04:19:00 -
[591] - Quote
*advises people not to kid themselves*
*posts earnestly about contracts, ethics, and the moral high ground in jita park*
heh The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Home Strech
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 04:21:00 -
[592] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote: The fact that he's an admitted sadist and mudslinging politician who has trouble distinguishing between his role as a CSM and his role in-game will not affect your decision in either direction.
Um being a politician when running for council seat is a bad thing?
And what is wrong with being a sadist I am a masochist and LOVE sadists :) |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5228
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 04:26:00 -
[593] - Quote
I think there's a lot of folks who missed my CSM6 campaign last year. I make no bones about being a complete bastard. Most people who know me in nullsec or have been on the wrong end of my alliance are entirely aware of the lengths I go to in order to win.
In CSM6 I vowed that I would put my skill at raw bastardry to use - to improve the game and make the CSM actually work; I did exactly that. I'm not a saint, an angel, or a ~nice guy~. Those kind of people don't do well in a political group where your task is to influence and persuade others, to cut deals, to think in a Machiavellian manner.
If you think an effective politician is a 'moral' person, well, I know a great guy who can act as a trusted third party if you need to transfer a supercap!
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
156
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 04:32:00 -
[594] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:I think there's a lot of folks who missed my CSM6 campaign last year. I make no bones about being a complete bastard. Most people who know me in nullsec or have been on the wrong end of my alliance are entirely aware of the lengths I go to in order to win.
In CSM6 I vowed that I would put my skill at raw bastardry to use - to improve the game and make the CSM actually work; I did exactly that. I'm not a saint, an angel, or a ~nice guy~. Those kind of people don't do well in a political group where your task is to influence and persuade others, to cut deals, to think in a Machiavellian manner.
If you think an effective politician is a 'moral' person, well, I know a great guy who can act as a trusted third party if you need to transfer a supercap!
Actually, you're kinda fail as a follower of Machiavelli. To quote The Prince:
"For this reason a prince ought to take care that he never lets anything slip from his lips that is not replete with the above-named five qualities, that he may appear to him who sees and hears him altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright, and religious."
See, Machiavelli understood that a leader had to APPEAR virtuous, despite his true nature. It's funny you should mention Machiavelli as I was just musing to myself that you must have never read him. You're not going to be elected because you're a master of Machiavelli's teachings. You'll get elected because of the structure of the election and the large voting block you control. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5230
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 04:37:00 -
[595] - Quote
all i see in your posts is 'a bloo bloo bloo', my computer must be screwing up again~ The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Sara XIII
My lil Tax Shelter
57
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 04:40:00 -
[596] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:The Mittani wrote:I think there's a lot of folks who missed my CSM6 campaign last year. I make no bones about being a complete bastard. Most people who know me in nullsec or have been on the wrong end of my alliance are entirely aware of the lengths I go to in order to win.
In CSM6 I vowed that I would put my skill at raw bastardry to use - to improve the game and make the CSM actually work; I did exactly that. I'm not a saint, an angel, or a ~nice guy~. Those kind of people don't do well in a political group where your task is to influence and persuade others, to cut deals, to think in a Machiavellian manner.
If you think an effective politician is a 'moral' person, well, I know a great guy who can act as a trusted third party if you need to transfer a supercap!
Actually, you're kinda fail as a follower of Machiavelli. To quote The Prince: "For this reason a prince ought to take care that he never lets anything slip from his lips that is not replete with the above-named five qualities, that he may appear to him who sees and hears him altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright, and religious." See, Machiavelli understood that a leader had to APPEAR virtuous, despite his true nature. It's funny you should mention Machiavelli as I was just musing to myself that you must have never read him. You're not going to be elected because you're a master of Machiavelli's teachings. You'll get elected because of the structure of the election and the large voting block you control.
Psst, your pubbie is showing. Please stop.  |

Poetic Stanziel
Major Kong Freight
749
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 04:49:00 -
[597] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:... and draw no distinction between you as a person and The Mittani. The Mittani would beat a dog if he thought it would get him something he desired (like a ham sammich).
This Alexander Gianturco fellow, I don't think he would beat a dog, unless under the most extreme circumstances/duress.
The Mittani is an asshole. I hear that this Alexander Gianturco fellow is actually a pretty nice and friendly guy. The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |

Endeavour Starfleet
646
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 04:53:00 -
[598] - Quote
Would you mind please going over your views of incursion going into CSM7? With the possibility of a renewed campaign to get them seriously nerfed in the future I would like to know if you are willing to go from a rather passive stance to that of defending them and content like it from those with an agenda of pushing more CTA participation without benefits. Or those who just hate highsec. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
156
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 04:56:00 -
[599] - Quote
Poetic Stanziel wrote:Princess Bride wrote:... and draw no distinction between you as a person and The Mittani. The Mittani would beat a dog if he thought it would get him something he desired (like a ham sammich). This Alexander Gianturco fellow, I don't think he would beat a dog, unless under the most extreme circumstances/duress. The Mittani is an as shole. I hear that this Alexander Gianturco fellow is actually a pretty nice and friendly guy.
So who are we speaking to here. The Mittani, or Alex? More importantly, who are we electing? http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Mintrolio
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
311
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 05:02:00 -
[600] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote: So who are we speaking to here. The Mittani, or Alex? More importantly, who are we electing?
PLESE ELECTIGN ME AND LEAFIGN THIS POOR DEFENSLESE GOON MITANI ALONE NOW.
ALSO THESE CONTINU POASTIGN IS PUSHIGN MINE POAST DOWN DOWN DOWN.
THENK YOU. MINTROLIO FUR CSM7 |
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5230
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 05:10:00 -
[601] - Quote
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Would you mind please going over your views of incursion going into CSM7? With the possibility of a renewed campaign to get them seriously nerfed in the future I would like to know if you are willing to go from a rather passive stance to that of defending them and content like it from those with an agenda of pushing more CTA participation without benefits. Or those who just hate highsec.
I don't really deal with Incursions much. On CSM6 the 'Incursion Session' in the December minutes was primarily spearheaded by Draco Llasa, as he had done a bunch of research and participated heavily in them firsthand. I generally stand by Draco's knowledge on this topic, so if the December minutes comments on Incursions makes you extremely angry, vOv
I'd like to see more flavors of Incursions than Sansha and more variety in sites, and they also need to stop spewing out comical amounts of risk-free isk in hisec. That's a fairly common view. Incursions are certainly superior as content goes to L4 missions, that's unquestionable. I've suggested having 'Newbie Incursions' as well to get new players to group up and fight against a common foe as a NPE experience, to snap new players out of the 'all alone' mindset. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
156
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 05:11:00 -
[602] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:all i see in your posts is 'a bloo bloo bloo', my computer must be screwing up again~
Ah. That's a bit disappointing.
Well, when you get the only thing that gives your life meaning back up and running, perhaps you could post a list of politicians who -admit- they're mudslingers. There are plenty of mud-slinging politicians out there, but I'm having trouble remembering any of them labeling themselves such. Can you help me out here? Right, not really. I guess most -real- politicians actually read Machiavelli and practice what they learned instead of pretending.  http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5231
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 05:15:00 -
[603] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:The Mittani wrote:all i see in your posts is 'a bloo bloo bloo', my computer must be screwing up again~ Ah. That's a bit disappointing. Well, when you get the only thing that gives your life meaning back up and running, perhaps you could post a list of politicians who -admit- they're mudslingers. There are plenty of mud-slinging politicians out there, but I'm having trouble remembering any of them labeling themselves such. Can you help me out here? Right, not really. I guess most -real- politicians actually read Machiavelli and practice what they learned instead of pretending. 
one of the best things about winning space-elections is watching people like you howl in frustration ^_^ The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
156
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 05:32:00 -
[604] - Quote
Of course. You're a sadist. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 05:35:00 -
[605] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Would you mind please going over your views of incursion going into CSM7? With the possibility of a renewed campaign to get them seriously nerfed in the future I would like to know if you are willing to go from a rather passive stance to that of defending them and content like it from those with an agenda of pushing more CTA participation without benefits. Or those who just hate highsec. I don't really deal with Incursions much. On CSM6 the 'Incursion Session' in the December minutes was primarily spearheaded by Draco Llasa, as he had done a bunch of research and participated heavily in them firsthand. I generally stand by Draco's knowledge on this topic, so if the December minutes comments on Incursions makes you extremely angry, vOv I'd like to see more flavors of Incursions than Sansha and more variety in sites, and they also need to stop spewing out comical amounts of risk-free isk in hisec. That's a fairly common view. Incursions are certainly superior as content goes to L4 missions, that's unquestionable. I've suggested having 'Newbie Incursions' as well to get new players to group up and fight against a common foe as a NPE experience, to snap new players out of the 'all alone' mindset.
I think that would sort of, kind of work like the final quest in the Death Knight tutorial in wow, right? |

Endeavour Starfleet
646
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 05:40:00 -
[606] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Would you mind please going over your views of incursion going into CSM7? With the possibility of a renewed campaign to get them seriously nerfed in the future I would like to know if you are willing to go from a rather passive stance to that of defending them and content like it from those with an agenda of pushing more CTA participation without benefits. Or those who just hate highsec. I don't really deal with Incursions much. On CSM6 the 'Incursion Session' in the December minutes was primarily spearheaded by Draco Llasa, as he had done a bunch of research and participated heavily in them firsthand. I generally stand by Draco's knowledge on this topic, so if the December minutes comments on Incursions makes you extremely angry, vOv I'd like to see more flavors of Incursions than Sansha and more variety in sites, and they also need to stop spewing out comical amounts of risk-free isk in hisec. That's a fairly common view. Incursions are certainly superior as content goes to L4 missions, that's unquestionable. I've suggested having 'Newbie Incursions' as well to get new players to group up and fight against a common foe as a NPE experience, to snap new players out of the 'all alone' mindset.
I agree with the idea of Noob incursions. Getting newer players into group efforts ASAP will be of benefit to the community.
If you don't mind me going further with this. Have you participated in the daily HQ fleet that is pretty regular lately? I have lately grown to seriously like this type of gameplay as it represents the best of Hisec in my opinion. There are actually players with shiny ships that can be going 100M plus in the VGs or making 150M plus pounding their sanctum systems. yet choose the 50-60M tops HQ fleets instead because they prefer the group setting. I would encourage you to use an alt or something to try in the future as they aren't very picky about ships.
I have stated that I don't like how Shiny fleets have an extreme advantage over nonshiny fleets. In VGs this is mainly due to extreme shiny webbing and point that leads to rather extreme advantages they have over just having more isk in their ships. Because a nonshiny fleet always lacks in the Web and point ability it is almost always an automatic fail for the nonshiny.
I will admit I have been too defensive on the subject. Mainly because I see people (Including some goons which confuses me due to the unique requirements to join your group) Who don't want them changed but nuked. With obvious reasoning because it competes with Nullsec living. And the CTAs. People like me have lived and participated greatly in nullsec and want to see changes that can encourage living out there (Modular POS and Corp PLEASE) Yet have grown tired of going on cookie cutter CTAs with no SRP and come back to an AFK cloaked system. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5231
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 05:46:00 -
[607] - Quote
I think you're getting worked up over a straw man. There's no serious push to remove hisec incursions that I've encountered, only to balance the payouts of the sites and make it worthwhile to do something other than vanguards. Whoever is telling you that 'someone wants to remove hisec incursions' is getting you riled up for nothing. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Endeavour Starfleet
646
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 05:55:00 -
[608] - Quote
Fair Enough.
So just a final clarification.
IF you had to choose between say giving VGs different spawns to nullify the web point shiny advantage or just cutting VG payout by 3x you would choose the first one right?
It may seem stupid and repetitive but there ARE calls out there for flat out cuts which will gut the smaller nonshiny VG fleets already suffering against the shiny fleets. There ARE calls saying that there is extreme Incursion Inflation and that is why Payout cut or removal to LP is somehow needed and while I suspect you won't kneejerk to that stance I still worry about the potential of the others. |

Arctus Arrakis
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 06:12:00 -
[609] - Quote
Hey Mittani, you have this newbies vote. Mostly because you seem like you could handle yourself in a discussion, rather than spew nerd rage. But anyway, good look mate.
P.S. Maybe one day I can log between characters without reopening the game? :D Would appreciate it greatly. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5233
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 06:22:00 -
[610] - Quote
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Fair Enough.
So just a final clarification.
IF you had to choose between say giving VGs different spawns to nullify the web point shiny advantage or just cutting VG payout by 3x you would choose the first one right?
It may seem stupid and repetitive but there ARE calls out there for flat out cuts which will gut the smaller nonshiny VG fleets already suffering against the shiny fleets. There ARE calls saying that there is extreme Incursion Inflation and that is why Payout cut or removal to LP is somehow needed and while I suspect you won't kneejerk to that stance I still worry about the potential of the others.
The CSM doesn't micromanage balance calls like that. The level of payouts of an anomaly or a particular Incursion site isn't something we get nitty gritty on.
As an example, the Anomaly nerfs that Greyscale put in between CSM5 and CSM6 without consulting us were a complete disaster. We pointed this out, loudly and repeatedly. We didn't say 'tweak this haven in this truesec band to have 15% more of a payout'; the feedback was more 'you ****** up bigtime, and you can see evidence of the fuckup in the following effects across null, stop being crazy.'
When in Crucible CCP clawed back from the Anomaly nerfs and buffed them, we didn't get a nitty-gritty spreadsheet listing the changes, nor would that be useful to us. The CSM is an advocacy group, not a playground for statisticians. Hopefully that makes a bit more sense. We highlight major problems and leave the micro-level balance and game design issues to the actual game designers. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5233
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 06:23:00 -
[611] - Quote
Arctus Arrakis wrote:Hey Mittani, you have this newbies vote. Mostly because you seem like you could handle yourself in a discussion, rather than spew nerd rage. But anyway, good look mate.
P.S. Maybe one day I can log between characters without reopening the game? :D Would appreciate it greatly.
I think everyone wants to swap characters without closing the client. I have no idea why it's not in. I'll ask in Skype, there might be some horrifically difficult coding reason or something.
Thanks for the vote. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Endeavour Starfleet
646
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 06:28:00 -
[612] - Quote
I need to save my votes for others that are at risk of being defeated by flatly anti incursion candidates. However I have to say that you have handled yourself in a professional manner and are worthy of the votes others are giving to you and worthy to continue to lead the CSM into the future. You have my thanks and my respect. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
137
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 06:34:00 -
[613] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:As an example, the Anomaly nerfs that Greyscale put in between CSM5 and CSM6 without consulting us were a complete disaster. We pointed this out, loudly and repeatedly. We didn't say 'tweak this haven in this truesec band to have 15% more of a payout'; the feedback was more 'you ****** up bigtime, and you can see evidence of the fuckup in the following effects across null, stop being crazy.' How do they respons to such evidence of their messups? |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
598
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 08:56:00 -
[614] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:
As CSM Chair, I offer sound guidance and guardianship of that power; I'm one of the first to truly wield it effectively. I'm here to protect the nullsec population against the existential danger of allowing an ignorant hiseccer and Greyscale to get together and talk about jump bridges. I'm here to keep the focus of the game on spaceships instead of a testbed for WoD or a venue for more pants. It's a guardianship.
Our savior... 
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
426
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 12:56:00 -
[615] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:The Mittani wrote:As an example, the Anomaly nerfs that Greyscale put in between CSM5 and CSM6 without consulting us were a complete disaster. We pointed this out, loudly and repeatedly. We didn't say 'tweak this haven in this truesec band to have 15% more of a payout'; the feedback was more 'you ****** up bigtime, and you can see evidence of the fuckup in the following effects across null, stop being crazy.' How do they respons to such evidence of their messups?
They get angry over it and take away the jump bridges. disorientating |

HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
156
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 13:07:00 -
[616] - Quote
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:I need to save my votes for others that are at risk of being defeated by flatly anti incursion candidates.
There are 'flatly anti-incursion candidates'?
Someone link a thread, that sounds like it would be good fun to read.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
137
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 15:50:00 -
[617] - Quote
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:The Mittani wrote:As CSM Chair, I offer sound guidance and guardianship of that power; I'm one of the first to truly wield it effectively. I'm here to protect the nullsec population against the existential danger of allowing an ignorant hiseccer and Greyscale to get together and talk about jump bridges. I'm here to keep the focus of the game on spaceships instead of a testbed for WoD or a venue for more pants. It's a guardianship. Our savior...  Protecting us daily from the dangers of ~elite pvp~ and CCP.
rodyas wrote:They get angry over it and take away the jump bridges. Any day now all jumpbridges will stop working.... |

Gizmo Reaper
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 17:23:00 -
[618] - Quote
MIttens, you suicided my hulk and my main is part of the southern block - but you still have my vote from one of my accounts because i believe you are making EVE betterer. |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
124
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 17:50:00 -
[619] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:The Mittani wrote:I think there's a lot of folks who missed my CSM6 campaign last year. I make no bones about being a complete bastard. Most people who know me in nullsec or have been on the wrong end of my alliance are entirely aware of the lengths I go to in order to win.
In CSM6 I vowed that I would put my skill at raw bastardry to use - to improve the game and make the CSM actually work; I did exactly that. I'm not a saint, an angel, or a ~nice guy~. Those kind of people don't do well in a political group where your task is to influence and persuade others, to cut deals, to think in a Machiavellian manner.
If you think an effective politician is a 'moral' person, well, I know a great guy who can act as a trusted third party if you need to transfer a supercap!
Actually, you're kinda fail as a follower of Machiavelli. To quote The Prince: "For this reason a prince ought to take care that he never lets anything slip from his lips that is not replete with the above-named five qualities, that he may appear to him who sees and hears him altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright, and religious." See, Machiavelli understood that a leader had to APPEAR virtuous, despite his true nature. It's funny you should mention Machiavelli as I was just musing to myself that you must have never read him. You're not going to be elected because you're a master of Machiavelli's teachings. You'll get elected because of the structure of the election and the large voting block you control.
What you fail to comprehend is that the inteligent people have read The Prince, and are deeply distrustful of those that appear merciful, faithful, humane, upright, and religious. I find it refreshing that someone is honest about showing you the knife and telling you what he is going to do if you don't comply, verses someone that is pretending to be your friend and smiling up untill he plunges the dagger into your back because it furthers his political ambitions.
The Mittani does what he says on the tin, it is the ones that appear merciful, faithful, humane, upright and religious, you have to watch out for, because you never know what ulterior motives are lurking beneath. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
137
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 18:06:00 -
[620] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:What you fail to comprehend is that the inteligent people have read The Prince, and are deeply distrustful of those that appear merciful, faithful, humane, upright, and religious. I find it refreshing that someone is honest about showing you the knife and telling you what he is going to do if you don't comply, verses someone that is pretending to be your friend and smiling up untill he plunges the dagger into your back because it furthers his political ambitions. Ah game theory. Et tu EVE-O, an internet spaceship forums
Compliance is mandatory. |
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
426
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 18:25:00 -
[621] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Protecting us daily from the dangers of ~elite pvp~ and CCP. rodyas wrote:They get angry over it and take away the jump bridges. Any day now all jumpbridges will stop working....
Well not all jump bridges, just some they took away. CCP hasn't developed perfect anger yet. But once they do, I imagine a total loss across the board. disorientating |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
137
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 18:30:00 -
[622] - Quote
rodyas wrote:Well not all jump bridges, just some they took away. CCP hasn't developed perfect anger yet. But once they do, I imagine a total loss across the board. They'll break the code some day...
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
426
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 18:33:00 -
[623] - Quote
If their alchohol was stronger they could.
(hit below the belt) disorientating |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
124
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 18:38:00 -
[624] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:rodyas wrote:Well not all jump bridges, just some they took away. CCP hasn't developed perfect anger yet. But once they do, I imagine a total loss across the board. They'll break the code some day...
Delet BOOT.INI You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
426
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 18:40:00 -
[625] - Quote
Delete RIFTER.INI :) disorientating |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10211
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 18:58:00 -
[626] - Quote
rodyas wrote:Delete RIFTER.INI :) I thought we were friends.  Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar; Space Friend to All Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
426
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 19:02:00 -
[627] - Quote
Delete skycaptainofyourheart.INI
That is for CCP to do, I wouldn't do it. We are just measuring CCP's strength. disorientating |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
124
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 19:05:00 -
[628] - Quote
You youngsers today. Don't know your history. I was talking about THIS fabulous incident. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
426
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 19:14:00 -
[629] - Quote
That is really hilarious, even more hilarious then me rolling gallente when incursions came out. disorientating |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
137
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 19:41:00 -
[630] - Quote
Yeah, like that image gif people have... crash jita, break bridges, delete boot.ini |
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SkiD-MaRk
DEAD-ON
9
|
Posted - 2012.02.19 20:44:00 -
[631] - Quote
Mittani. You should make a fake neckbeard and were it to fan fest.
Then, I know my vote will be in the hands of the right man.  |

Magnusian
Sigma Kid Protection Services Goonswarm Federation
5
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 00:03:00 -
[632] - Quote
In the same vein as the post above (which is a terrible post btw), Mittens, what is your official reponse to those who worry about your little chin pube making you unqualified for representing neckbeards as a CSM?
E: Would you be willing to grow a proper neckbeard to assuage these concerns? |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
522
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 06:55:00 -
[633] - Quote
Magnusian wrote:In the same vein as the post above (which is a terrible post btw), Mittens, what is your official reponse to those who worry about your little chin pube making you unqualified for representing neckbeards as a CSM?
E: Would you be willing to grow a proper neckbeard to assuage these concerns?
This question needs answering, Mittani! Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

Solinuas
Viziam Amarr Empire
68
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 11:57:00 -
[634] - Quote
Are you kidding princess, im just voting for him just to spite you, i was actually going to vote for T'amber, but you seemed like a lot of fun to spitevote on.
Also mittens is responsible for half of the amusement on the forums, without him on the CSM the tinfoil hat theory threads wont show up to make me crack up, making the forum a far less interesting place, so voting for mittens is voting to keep the forums more amusing! |

Kai Jyokoroi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 12:19:00 -
[635] - Quote
Never don't vote Mittani |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
137
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 19:20:00 -
[636] - Quote
Solinuas wrote:Also mittens is responsible for half of the amusement on the forums, without him on the CSM the tinfoil hat theory threads wont show up to make me crack up, making the forum a far less interesting place, so voting for mittens is voting to keep the forums more amusing! Makes perfect sense !
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esmeralda
Drunken Wookies BricK sQuAD.
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 21:47:00 -
[637] - Quote
I didnt know Mittens been featured on damnlol aswell; here
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Oreb Wing
Black Guards
24
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 22:39:00 -
[638] - Quote
Like it or not, The Mittani has effected change. Change enough for a player like me to resub with all the stories I read off-site that rekindled my curiosity for EvE, and I am enjoying playing again as much as reading about it. I left the first time the moment I saw my first 14-day skill queue up and cancelled thinking I was being had, to wait half my pay cycle while watching a skill count-down. Cheers, to change! and defending my shiny rocks and money from maniacs!  |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
869
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 22:39:00 -
[639] - Quote
Please don't belittle the Mittani. CCP and even the CSM have a lot of hardworking men and women who are very intelligent, working on making New Eden a better place-it is CCP management that I fear the most. |

Chib
Drunken Wookies BricK sQuAD.
7
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 22:44:00 -
[640] - Quote
yeah, he's taken this CSM to new Heights |
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Aarora
Thundercats Initiative Mercenaries
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 22:46:00 -
[641] - Quote
aye filling his shoes will be a Tall order |

NeuroSyn
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 22:48:00 -
[642] - Quote
Don't underestimate the height of his influence in this game, He can institute change in a very short amount of time with very little support! |

Nastasya Filippovna
Thundercats Initiative Mercenaries
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 22:49:00 -
[643] - Quote
I do hope he can reply to this thread Shortly |

Vanjja
Thundercats Initiative Mercenaries
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 22:51:00 -
[644] - Quote
You guys shouldn't make him angry -he does have a Short fuse |

Defying
Drunken Wookies BricK sQuAD.
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 22:57:00 -
[645] - Quote
indeed, he should be congratulated on His Accomplishents as they are no small feat |

Rassad2
Squad Bank
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:00:00 -
[646] - Quote
one Small step for Goonswarm, one Giant leap for the Mittani |

Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
334
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:13:00 -
[647] - Quote
Mittani, if Re-elected, how will you make the game more enjoyable for me?
Direct x 11? Optional High Res Texture pack (one that can be ticked off for large fights) Will you bring us dresses for the NEX? Pretty pink dresses with frills and bows with blooming flowers on them? What about top hats and velvetier trench coats?
Will you focus on fixing rats? I mean they ARE still using PRE-Nerf ECM and accociated stuff.
If I fly a proteus with a subsystem designed to prevent jamming then it should work against npcs too. My understanding is that currently that subsystem has "no effect" on the ability of rats to jam or damp you.
Will you ignore everything I asked you?
Vote Xenuria CSM7 |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
437
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:15:00 -
[648] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Will you ignore everything I asked you?
Most likely yes. |

Sniperlove
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:18:00 -
[649] - Quote
I hope he continues to stand up tall and not shrink away from his duties |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
437
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:20:00 -
[650] - Quote
I like how Mittani's second post on the first page has been blanked out. Who is CCP defending? The pedophile? The David Duke fan? The Ayn Rand fanboy? The morbidly obese? Or the NDA breaking CSM failure? |
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Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
870
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:20:00 -
[651] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Xenuria wrote:Will you ignore everything I asked you?
Most likely yes.
He isn't saying much to anyone it seems. Whats the matter Mittani-cat got your tongue?
CCP and even the CSM have a lot of hardworking men and women who are very intelligent, working on making New Eden a better place-it is CCP management that I fear the most. |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
437
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:21:00 -
[652] - Quote
Darius III wrote:Karadion wrote:Xenuria wrote:Will you ignore everything I asked you?
Most likely yes. He isn't saying much to anyone it seems. Whats the matter Mittani-cat got your tongue? If you want to answer the pedophile, by all means, go for it. |

Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
334
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:22:00 -
[653] - Quote
Karadion wrote:I like how Mittani's post has been blanked out. Who is CCP defending? The pedophile? The David Duke fan? The Ayn Rand fanboy? The morbidly obese? Or the NDA breaking CSM failure?
Personal attacks are not allowed on the forums.
 Vote Xenuria CSM7 |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
437
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Posted - 2012.02.20 23:24:00 -
[654] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Karadion wrote:I like how Mittani's post has been blanked out. Who is CCP defending? The pedophile? The David Duke fan? The Ayn Rand fanboy? The morbidly obese? Or the NDA breaking CSM failure? Personal attacks are not allowed on the forums.  Please tell me more about how you're so going to win the CSM election. If you want to put down a wager, I'm fine with that. |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
870
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:24:00 -
[655] - Quote
Karadion wrote:I like how Mittani's second post on the first page has been blanked out. Who is CCP defending? The pedophile? The David Duke fan? The Ayn Rand fanboy? The morbidly obese? Or the NDA breaking CSM failure?
>Protip: There was never a violation of the NDA
CCP and even the CSM have a lot of hardworking men and women who are very intelligent, working on making New Eden a better place-it is CCP management that I fear the most. |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
437
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:27:00 -
[656] - Quote
Darius III wrote:Karadion wrote:I like how Mittani's second post on the first page has been blanked out. Who is CCP defending? The pedophile? The David Duke fan? The Ayn Rand fanboy? The morbidly obese? Or the NDA breaking CSM failure? >Protip: There was never a violation of the NDA Protip: Tell it to someone who cares. Like Princess Bride. At least at my job, I uphold the NDA agreements that I made with my company so that my co-workers and boss can trust me. |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
870
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:31:00 -
[657] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Protip: Tell it to someone who cares. Like Princess Bride. At least at my job, I uphold the NDA agreements that I made with my company so that my co-workers and boss can trust me.
Not sure who cares about you/your 'job' but thanks for sharing
CCP and even the CSM have a lot of hardworking men and women who are very intelligent, working on making New Eden a better place-it is CCP management that I fear the most. |

Dr KhaaknBaulz
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham
0
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Posted - 2012.02.20 23:31:00 -
[658] - Quote
With a small amount of luck, and a little push in the right direction, he can continue to serve the "Less Reaching" population in this community. I especially applaud his ability to address the little issues that shrink our desire to play this game, and reduce the feeling that we are all just "Little people, In a Big EVE World"..
..I personally hope that he helps the players that have had their "growth halted" early, due to EULA issues, as well as "limited growth" in the EVE Market.
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
334
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:31:00 -
[659] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Darius III wrote:Karadion wrote:I like how Mittani's second post on the first page has been blanked out. Who is CCP defending? The pedophile? The David Duke fan? The Ayn Rand fanboy? The morbidly obese? Or the NDA breaking CSM failure? >Protip: There was never a violation of the NDA Protip: Tell it to someone who cares. Like Princess Bride. At least at my job, I uphold the NDA agreements that I made with my company so that my co-workers and boss can trust me.
Wait so you claim that he broke the NDA and then when he and everybody else says he did no such thing you suddenly pull the "I don't care" card.
Are you 12? I hope you know saying you don't care when you have clearly lost the argument is NOT a sign of maturity rather the opposite. Vote Xenuria CSM7 |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
437
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:36:00 -
[660] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Karadion wrote:Darius III wrote:Karadion wrote:I like how Mittani's second post on the first page has been blanked out. Who is CCP defending? The pedophile? The David Duke fan? The Ayn Rand fanboy? The morbidly obese? Or the NDA breaking CSM failure? >Protip: There was never a violation of the NDA Protip: Tell it to someone who cares. Like Princess Bride. At least at my job, I uphold the NDA agreements that I made with my company so that my co-workers and boss can trust me. Wait so you claim that he broke the NDA and then when he and everybody else says he did no such thing you suddenly pull the "I don't care" card. Are you 12? I hope you know saying you don't care when you have clearly lost the argument is NOT a sign of maturity rather the opposite. The lines did come from a meeting that was under NDA. Darius may have been excused at what is NDA breaking or not but when the scripts came from a meeting under NDA, you pretty much undermine the confidence of other CSM members that you're supposed to work with. Darius is just being an anti-CSM candidate because he wants free trips to Iceland although he's contributed NOTHING to the CSM.
I'm not from the Langer School of Thoughts (Retards) so I don't care if I don't meet your requirements for winning or losing arguments. Especially since I never did any such circumstances of defining the goals or who have won such an argument.
But hey, I'm not the one here that has a problem with pedophilia. |
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Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
|
Posted - 2012.02.20 23:39:00 -
[661] - Quote
Xenuria, you are pretty dense and i can't comprehend why anyone bothers responding to you, HTH. |

Sniperlove
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 00:39:00 -
[662] - Quote
Karadion wrote:
But hey, I'm not the one here that has a problem with pedophilia.
Wait.....what? are you telling me it is okay for someone to sexually assault a child? If this is true you need to re-evaluate your life, your existance and your moral beliefs, or maybe re-evaluate those times your uncle invited you over when you were 5? |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
438
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 00:57:00 -
[663] - Quote
Sniperlove wrote:Karadion wrote:
But hey, I'm not the one here that has a problem with pedophilia.
Wait.....what? are you telling me it is okay for someone to sexually assault a child? If this is true you need to re-evaluate your life, your existance and your moral beliefs, or maybe re-evaluate those times your uncle invited you over when you were 5? You are terrible at reading. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
137
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 01:05:00 -
[664] - Quote
The Mittani's thread always delivers! |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 01:20:00 -
[665] - Quote
Oooh, I never noticed the ambiguity of "don't have a problem with" before, that's cool. |

Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
47
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 08:29:00 -
[666] - Quote
Mittens - The CSM Chairman of Your Heart Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460 |

Trin again
Sinister Order
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 09:08:00 -
[667] - Quote
Post number 666 is affirming a vote for Mittani. Dudes got balls, what can I say? |

Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
97
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 10:11:00 -
[668] - Quote
Who is this guy, I have never heard of him. |

Sniperlove
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 14:01:00 -
[669] - Quote
Just remember guys, people who support pedophilia support mittani, just read up in previous posts,
By supporting Mittani you partner along with these people who think violating the virginity of children is acceptable............
Mittani how do you feel about people who are encouraging, maybe even partaking in this horrendous activity supporting your campaign to make eve a better place? your thoughts here will LARGELY affect the SMALL community of eve players who believe in morality and help affect deminishing returns |

Sirref Naes
Spacial 8 Xchange
7
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 14:04:00 -
[670] - Quote
Sniperlove wrote:Just remember guys, people who support pedophilia support mittani, just read up in previous posts,
By supporting Mittani you partner along with these people who think violating the virginity of children is acceptable............
Mittani how do you feel about people who are encouraging, maybe even partaking in this horrendous activity supporting your campaign to make eve a better place? your thoughts here will LARGELY affect the SMALL community of eve players who believe in morality and help affect deminishing returns
I'm glad someone pointed this out... But Mittani touched me as a child... |
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
441
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 14:59:00 -
[671] - Quote
Sniperlove wrote:Just remember guys, people who support pedophilia support Xenuria,
By supporting Xenuria you partner along with these people who think violating the virginity of children is acceptable............
But what do I know? I'm a dumb pubbie. Don't forget to ask Xenuria about hockles. He'll tell you all about it. |
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ISD Grossvogel
Community Communications Liaisons
26

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Posted - 2012.02.21 15:39:00 -
[672] - Quote
We had to kill a number of posts from this thread. Continued personal attacks will be prosecuted; there's no fun in that, believe me. ISD Grossvogel (ISD -ô-Ç-+-ü-ü-ä-+-¦-¦-+-î) Captain, Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) -Æ-+-+-+-+-é-æ-Ç -¦-Ç-â-+-+-ï -+-+ -¦-+-¦-+-+-+-¦-¦-¦-ü-é-¦-+-Ä -ü -+-¦-Ç-+-¦-¦-+-+ Interstellar Services Department |
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Chib
Drunken Wookies BricK sQuAD.
7
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Posted - 2012.02.21 16:12:00 -
[673] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:derppderp
The Crucible expansion reads like a laundry list of things that CSM6 fought for - an emphasis on iterative ship balance, Time Dilation, hybrid and Gallente fixes, supercap nerfs, and assault frigates.
more derp.
This   |

Sniperlove
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 16:51:00 -
[674] - Quote
Low-Down short version
Mittani = time dilation Link = Goons complaining about time dilation
Vote for the man who has the BIGGEST interest for his alliance |

Harvey Skywarker
Higher Than Everest BricK sQuAD.
5
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 16:55:00 -
[675] - Quote
"BoB used to have an advantage, they had lower ping times." classic |

Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
334
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 19:23:00 -
[676] - Quote
Well Mittani now that you are assured enough votes you seem unwilling to respond on particular issues. Vote Xenuria CSM7 |

Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
161
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 19:29:00 -
[677] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Well Mittani now that you are assured enough votes you seem unwilling to respond on particular issues. the mittani is assured of enough votes regardless of what someone who, - in accordance with ccp's rules regarding how credible allegations of extremely illegal and unacceptable conduct are not relevant to an election wherein we vote on these people as individuals - certainly has not been credibly accused of being a pedophile thinks |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
137
|
Posted - 2012.02.21 22:55:00 -
[678] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:Xenuria wrote:Well Mittani now that you are assured enough votes you seem unwilling to respond on particular issues. the mittani is assured of enough votes regardless of what someone who, - in accordance with ccp's rules regarding how credible allegations of extremely illegal and unacceptable conduct are not relevant to an election wherein we vote on these people as individuals - certainly has not been credibly accused of being a pedophile thinks Haha people trying to jab at The Mittani.
I'll give you a 5.5/10 for effort. Not you Retar, you get a +1like/10 |

Darth Tickles
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
28
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 00:04:00 -
[679] - Quote
More like GAYttani, amirite?
Hi5s. |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
441
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 01:28:00 -
[680] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Well Mittani now that you are assured enough votes you seem unwilling to respond on particular issues. We don't need dickgirls and twatguys especially for any future scenario where WiS might become a part of this game. Stop trying. (9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á |
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Quingar
Yacht Club. Cascade Associates
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 09:10:00 -
[681] - Quote
Hey Mittens I think you wanted some posters for your CSM votes
I think this one speaks for itself :D
http://jestertrek.com/eve/blog/2012/twins.png |

High Heel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 09:36:00 -
[682] - Quote
Mittens:
Why you hate Titans and SuperC's So much? Do they make you angry cause you can't afford them or what is it?
Why do you want to limit the game to subSupercap warfare? That is basically saying 400 VS 500. the ones whit 500 wins. So you are basicly supporting larger and larger fleetfights? |

Alexis Zyl
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 09:42:00 -
[683] - Quote
Please post pictures of your puppy. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3037
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 10:15:00 -
[684] - Quote
High Heel wrote:Mittens:
Why you hate Titans and SuperC's So much? Do they make you angry cause you can't afford them or what is it?
Why do you want to limit the game to subSupercap warfare? That is basically saying 400 VS 500. the ones whit 500 wins. So you are basicly supporting larger and larger fleetfights?
The tighter you squeeze, the more systems will slip through your grip, Center For Advanced Studies! Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
434
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 11:24:00 -
[685] - Quote
High Heel wrote:Mittens:
Why you hate Titans and SuperC's So much? Do they make you angry cause you can't afford them or what is it?
Why do you want to limit the game to subSupercap warfare? That is basically saying 400 VS 500. the ones whit 500 wins. So you are basicly supporting larger and larger fleetfights? because supercaps are gay as hell
(also the DFC owns more supercaps than anyone else) |

Chib
Drunken Wookies BricK sQuAD.
8
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Posted - 2012.02.22 12:07:00 -
[686] - Quote
i do not own a supercap nor have i ever however they definately should have a place in the game i do not think them any less "gay" than the ability to bring 1000 alpha ships to a fight
removing them merley puts the advantage back to the guys who can bring the biggest fleets again
so tbh you cant fairly limit supers without seriously considering gimping the alternative aswell
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Rastrelli Strasov
EntroPrelatial Industria EntroPraetorian Aegis
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 12:12:00 -
[687] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:
- If you think that virtual pants are more important than spaceships, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that wardecs and PvP should be consensual, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that T2 BPO lottery was a good idea, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that EVE should be made GÇÿsafeGÇÖ from scamming and griefing, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
- If you think that suicide ganking should be banned, I donGÇÖt want your vote. In fact, tell me where you hang out, so I can drop a Brutix on you.
- If GÇ£warGÇ¥, GÇ£murderGÇ¥ and GÇ£conquestGÇ¥ are naughty words that scare you, I donGÇÖt want your vote.
You make me laugh And not want to undock. How do you do it? (Space magic?)
+1 |

Leonard J Crabs
Leonard J Crabs and Associates LLC
9
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 13:38:00 -
[688] - Quote
A vote for The Mittani is a vote for the common workers voice to be heard.
http://i.imgur.com/b9xmG.jpg |

A4521
ROMANIA Renegades ROMANIAN-LEGION
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 14:30:00 -
[689] - Quote
+2 |

Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
139
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 14:32:00 -
[690] - Quote
Chib wrote: i do not think them any less "gay" than the ability to bring 1000 alpha ships to a fight
I have 2 questions.
1. Have you ever seen 1000 alpha ships on one side in a battle? Not 1000 pilots, but 1k alpha ships. This kind of number is floating for a long time now and used as counter-argument that supercaps do need balancing. I would love to see some killboard related link for that battle.
2. Have you seen 100+ supers on one side in battle? For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
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Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
48
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 15:33:00 -
[691] - Quote
High Heel wrote:Mittens:
Why you hate Titans and SuperC's So much? Do they make you angry cause you can't afford them or what is it?
Why do you want to limit the game to subSupercap warfare? That is basically saying 400 VS 500. the ones whit 500 wins. So you are basicly supporting larger and larger fleetfights?
Hahahaha oh man you must be trolling there's no way that this post is serious
The CFC (as pointed out above) can and does afford as many supercaps and titans as they would ever need. I think it says something when the coalition with the most supercaps in the game wants them nerfed.
Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460 |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
443
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 17:07:00 -
[692] - Quote
Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:High Heel wrote:Mittens:
Why you hate Titans and SuperC's So much? Do they make you angry cause you can't afford them or what is it?
Why do you want to limit the game to subSupercap warfare? That is basically saying 400 VS 500. the ones whit 500 wins. So you are basicly supporting larger and larger fleetfights? Hahahaha oh man you must be trolling there's no way that this post is serious The CFC (as pointed out above) can and does afford as many supercaps and titans as they would ever need. I think it says something when the coalition with the most supercaps in the game wants them nerfed. Oh god that guy might come in and say "Then the Goons must not have the most supercap in the game then!" with his dumb logic. (9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á |

Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
237
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 17:47:00 -
[693] - Quote
Last CSM was the first one i had ever voted in and i voted for you. I'll probably do so again. Stuff Goes here |

trader raider
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 18:20:00 -
[694] - Quote
First rule of eve: NEVER trust a goon Second rule of eve : NEVER trust a goon
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
113
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 18:51:00 -
[695] - Quote
trader raider wrote:First rule of eve: NEVER trust a goon Second rule of eve : NEVER trust a goon
lol, sounds like somebody got more than just the tip
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HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
164
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 21:16:00 -
[696] - Quote
We don't ask for your trust, just your vote. |

CTapocTAevp
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 22:22:00 -
[697] - Quote
Gogogo Mittens |

Egort Pareleru
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 22:29:00 -
[698] - Quote
DARIUS III has done more for the Eve community and the individual Eve players. I say...VOTE FOR DARIUS III for CSM 7 |

Sara XIII
My lil Tax Shelter
62
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 23:23:00 -
[699] - Quote
Egort Pareleru wrote:DARIUS III has done more for the Eve community and the individual Eve players. I say...VOTE FOR DARIUS III for CSM 7
This interests me. Show me on a Sov Map where I might find this "Darius III" and you'll have my votes.  |

Egort Pareleru
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.22 23:35:00 -
[700] - Quote
Sara XIII wrote:Egort Pareleru wrote:DARIUS III has done more for the Eve community and the individual Eve players. I say...VOTE FOR DARIUS III for CSM 7 This interests me. Show me on a Sov Map where I might find this "Darius III" and you'll have my votes. 
Aridia Black Rise The Bleak Lands Branch Cache Catch The Citadel Cloud Ring Cobalt Edge Curse Deklein Delve Derelik Detorid Devoid Domain Esoteria Essence Etherium Reach Everyshore Fade Feythabolis The Forge Fountain Geminate Genesis Great Wildlands Heimatar Immensea Impass Insmother Kador The Kalevala Expanse Khanid Kor-Azor Lonetrek Malpais Metropolis Molden Heath Oasa Omist Outer Passage Outer Ring Paragon Soul Period Basis Perrigen Falls Placid Providence Pure Blind Querious Scalding Pass Sinq Laison Solitude The Spire Stain Syndicate Tash-Murkon Tenal Tenerifis Tribute Vale of the Silent Venal Verge Vendor Wicked Creek
How has this...Mit*$% person helped me? Why should I help him? He has not done anything for me.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
140
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 00:12:00 -
[701] - Quote
Mittani fot King of Space. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Fuujin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 00:15:00 -
[702] - Quote
Egort Pareleru wrote:
How has this...Mit*$% person helped me? Why should I help him? He has not done anything for me. Darius, however at least helped me learn the game.
I can attest that The Mittani has personally shown hundreds of miners how to fit and (badly) use tanking modules, a skill entirely alien to them before! |

Lex Striker
Eldron Enterprises Black Thorne Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 03:17:00 -
[703] - Quote
Do I like personally you?... No... Do I like what you do here in Eve?... No... In fact, I just do not flatout like your silly butt at all.
However, have you been effective in the CSM... I have to answer yes... with a job well done... and thank you, appreciate your efforts. I have multiple accounts, and you will get at least one of their votes. All I ask is to give me a way to shove that suicide ganking Brutix sideways up their arse before CONCORD does.
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D Derp
xXxSePhIrOtHSSJ420xXx W33D4LYFE Fanclub
0
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:25:00 -
[704] - Quote
The Mittani wrote: one of the best things about winning space-elections is watching people like you howl in frustration ^_^
This right here is probably the best reason to vote for ~my ceo~ |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 05:49:00 -
[705] - Quote
D Derp wrote:The Mittani wrote: one of the best things about winning space-elections is watching people like you howl in frustration ^_^
This right here is probably the best reason to vote for ~my ceo~ Yes. I also like your corp btw. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

SidneyB
Chaos Mercenaries BLACK-MARK
0
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:49:00 -
[706] - Quote
Mittens for Emperor of the Galaxy. |

esc shk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
52
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 10:27:00 -
[707] - Quote
Mittens for Space Pope. |

P0SY
Skyforger Tactical Narcotics Team
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 10:36:00 -
[708] - Quote
King |

esc shk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
52
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 10:39:00 -
[709] - Quote
Pope. King Pope. |

Mfume Apocal
Origin. Nulli Secunda
318
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 10:39:00 -
[710] - Quote
trader raider wrote:First rule of eve: NEVER trust a goon Second rule of eve : NEVER trust a goon
What we have here, ladies and gentlemen, is a angry member of the general public. |
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Uhura Dennkhar
Free Trader industries
7
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 13:44:00 -
[711] - Quote
And if you want that Eve Change don't vote for him !!!! |

Ela Fox
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.23 13:47:00 -
[712] - Quote
Uhura Dennkhar wrote:And if you want that Eve Change don't vote for him !!!!
Yep it's always matter of the big blob and the others... That's sad...
We don't need you candidature... we need some fresh candidate!!
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Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
755
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 13:51:00 -
[713] - Quote
x up if you think the mittani is a swell guy |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
755
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 13:51:00 -
[714] - Quote
x |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
444
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 14:42:00 -
[715] - Quote
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. (9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á |

DaarMaar
Eve Global Invest Group
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 15:02:00 -
[716] - Quote
The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end.. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
146
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Posted - 2012.02.23 15:03:00 -
[717] - Quote
Ahahahahahahahahahaha
I'll consider that when -
Oh WHAT, they're headshotting VFK? Oh damnit, they are gonna make the most of Febuary's last week CTA CTA CTA!! Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
445
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 16:45:00 -
[718] - Quote
DaarMaar wrote:The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end.. Still got 6 more days left in this Deklein by February! Hurry up :) (9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á |

Mac Zehn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 17:47:00 -
[719] - Quote
I just read all 36 pages of this thread and I gota say these tears are delicious.
Also Mittani is a cool dood who talked about funny stuff in an op i was on once |

Oroan
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 18:21:00 -
[720] - Quote
Lookat dat fukken dog |
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Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
608
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 21:00:00 -
[721] - Quote
Yea
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Rochefort Trappistes
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 21:34:00 -
[722] - Quote
I don't think you get why people vote for Mittens. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
1016
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 21:43:00 -
[723] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Inappropriate post removed. Please refrain from personal attacks. Spitfire
I lol'd 
I've said before that I mostly like Mittens. He's done what he said he would do and I agree that his influence on the role of the CSM has been significant. In fact, I hope that he'll be elected again because I think his voice is one CCP needs to hear.
That said, don't vote for him. He's got the voting might of Goonswarm behind him, He doesn't need yours. The Mittani needs opposition, voices to counter him when his ideas becomes too self-serving or fail to represent large portions of the Eve playerbase. There are a number of candidates out there who will represent other priorities, and they do need your vote. |

VaL Iscariot
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
26
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 22:42:00 -
[724] - Quote
I guess this guy wants my approval for a free trip to Iceland eerrr I mean vote. |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
450
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 23:29:00 -
[725] - Quote
VaL Iscariot wrote:I guess this guy wants my approval for a free trip to Iceland eerrr I mean vote. What about the others? For example, Darius wanted a free trip to Iceland despite doing nothing on the CSM. (9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á |

Chib
Drunken Wookies BricK sQuAD.
8
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Posted - 2012.02.24 01:35:00 -
[726] - Quote
Karadion wrote:VaL Iscariot wrote:I guess this guy wants my approval for a free trip to Iceland eerrr I mean vote. What about the others? For example, Darius wanted a free trip to Iceland despite doing nothing on the CSM.
yeah but this year he wants TWO free trips |

Ocular Shadows
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 04:12:00 -
[727] - Quote
Lookat dat fukken cat |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1647
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 04:12:00 -
[728] - Quote
Chib wrote:Karadion wrote:VaL Iscariot wrote:I guess this guy wants my approval for a free trip to Iceland eerrr I mean vote. What about the others? For example, Darius wanted a free trip to Iceland despite doing nothing on the CSM. yeah but this year he wants TWO free trips
It's nice that Darius has goals.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Richard Bong
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.02.24 04:16:00 -
[729] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/KAjx6.jpg [ASK] Me about drive by thread shitting! |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
159
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 06:34:00 -
[730] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote: It's nice that Darius has goals.
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r363/zensins/PBride/janbrady-1.jpg http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
452
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 08:16:00 -
[731] - Quote
To piss you off. (9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á |

Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 08:42:00 -
[732] - Quote
Poorly done propaganda poster
I like this one a lot cause the cut on his face literally cuts space itself. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
412
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 10:06:00 -
[733] - Quote
what is this, some alex jones wackjob bullshit? is mittani like the eve-o infowars obama? |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
453
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 10:14:00 -
[734] - Quote
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:what is this, some alex jones wackjob bullshit? is mittani like the eve-o infowars obama? No, that's Riverini. Useless, fat and dumb like your Alex Jones. (9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á |

Richter Enderas
Coronal Core Research Inc Elite Space Guild
17
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 10:58:00 -
[735] - Quote
+1 for mittani
because he is not riverini or a hisec publord |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2188
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 11:25:00 -
[736] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:The Mittani wrote:Inappropriate post removed. Please refrain from personal attacks. Spitfire I lol'd  I've said before that I mostly like Mittens. He's done what he said he would do and I agree that his influence on the role of the CSM has been significant. In fact, I hope that he'll be elected again because I think his voice is one CCP needs to hear. That said, don't vote for him. He's got the voting might of Goonswarm behind him, He doesn't need yours. The Mittani needs opposition, voices to counter him when his ideas becomes too self-serving or fail to represent large portions of the Eve playerbase. There are a number of candidates out there who will represent other priorities, and they do need your vote.
Friend, you should vote for Mittens.
You may not believe that he needs your vote, but he does. Goonswarm may be a large 3000+ member alliance, but those votes alone will not secure the Chairmanship. It is not an important title, but it gives him a mandate. With this mandate, CCP will be even more inclined to listen to your concerns through his soft, soothing voice whispering into their ears in the Reykjavik bars.
I have no doubt that The Mittani will secure the CSM 7 chairmanship, but even if it is completely inevitable, you should still give him your vote if you cannot think of a more worthy candidate with a real chance. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
609
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 14:09:00 -
[737] - Quote
Andski wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:The Mittani wrote:Inappropriate post removed. Please refrain from personal attacks. Spitfire I lol'd  I've said before that I mostly like Mittens. He's done what he said he would do and I agree that his influence on the role of the CSM has been significant. In fact, I hope that he'll be elected again because I think his voice is one CCP needs to hear. That said, don't vote for him. He's got the voting might of Goonswarm behind him, He doesn't need yours. The Mittani needs opposition, voices to counter him when his ideas becomes too self-serving or fail to represent large portions of the Eve playerbase. There are a number of candidates out there who will represent other priorities, and they do need your vote. Friend, you should vote for Mittens. You may not believe that he needs your vote, but he does. Goonswarm may be a large 3000+ member alliance, but those votes alone will not secure the Chairmanship. It is not an important title, but it gives him a mandate. With this mandate, CCP will be even more inclined to listen to your concerns through his soft, soothing voice whispering into their ears in the Reykjavik bars. I have no doubt that The Mittani will secure the CSM 7 chairmanship, but even if it is completely inevitable, you should still give him your vote if you cannot think of a more worthy candidate with a real chance. Hehe... but he will get to the CSM7 thats engouth
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Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 14:11:00 -
[738] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:The Mittani wrote:Inappropriate post removed. Please refrain from personal attacks. Spitfire I lol'd  I've said before that I mostly like Mittens. He's done what he said he would do and I agree that his influence on the role of the CSM has been significant. In fact, I hope that he'll be elected again because I think his voice is one CCP needs to hear. That said, don't vote for him. He's got the voting might of Goonswarm behind him, He doesn't need yours. The Mittani needs opposition, voices to counter him when his ideas becomes too self-serving or fail to represent large portions of the Eve playerbase. There are a number of candidates out there who will represent other priorities, and they do need your vote.
The more people who vote for The Mittani, the less votes the other CSM candidates you support will need to secure a seat. Spreading the vote out across more candidates will make it harder for all candidates to get a seat. Voting for Mittens is like voting twice, once for him, and once for the other candidates you support. |

Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
68
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 16:05:00 -
[739] - Quote
Yeah I would honestly remind anyone voting for Mittani of a simple yet very real fact. Manufacturing Papercuts ***CSM Interstellar Debate - Mining Profession**
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D Derp
xXxSePhIrOtHSSJ420xXx W33D4LYFE Fanclub
1
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:14:00 -
[740] - Quote
Revolution Rising wrote:Yeah I would honestly remind anyone voting for Mittani of a simple yet very real fact.
Is this the Eve version of "OBAMA IS A SECRET MUSLIM!!!!!"? |
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
162
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 18:21:00 -
[741] - Quote
D Derp wrote:Revolution Rising wrote:Yeah I would honestly remind anyone voting for Mittani of a simple yet very real fact. Is this the Eve version of "OBAMA IS A SECRET MUSLIM!!!!!"?
No, that would be The Mittani accusing Darius III of breaching the NDA... which CCP confirmed was bullshit. Oh wait, that's more like the birthers isn't it. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2423
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 18:32:00 -
[742] - Quote
darius III's campaign is already deceased let us not speak ill of the dead |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2423
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 18:33:00 -
[743] - Quote
and given there is nothing to discuss about darius IIIs campaign that does not require us to speak ill of it let us not discuss it at all |

Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
44
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:18:00 -
[744] - Quote
Everyone should ask themselves one simple question: are you better off after Crucible, or before Crucible? If the latter, find another game to play space barbies. If the former, then re-elect The Mittani. He doesn't need the CSM chairmanship to advance GSF's agenda: technetium does that well enough, thank you. He does want EVE to be less horrible, however, and he's the only CSM candidate capable of leading the CSM in a manner which helps CCP do that. |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
435
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 21:06:00 -
[745] - Quote
Revolution Rising wrote:Yeah I would honestly remind anyone voting for Mittani of a simple yet very real fact. i would like to remind anyone who is about to take this seriously to remember that this is the type of person who mines in eve
miners are ********. |

Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
46
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 21:45:00 -
[746] - Quote
One other thought: don't kid yourself about not getting griefed in EVE. Even if The Mittani loses, there are plenty of players--in Goonswarm and without--who will happily harvest tears for as long as their wallets hold out.
The question you should ask yourself is not "Will such-and-such a candidate make me safer in high-sec?"
The question you should ask yourself is "Who will best lead our customer advocacy group in a way to influence CCP to do cool things, and not do stupid things." |

CatreX Nolen
GriffinWaffe The Jagged Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 22:01:00 -
[747] - Quote
where do i sign up? |

Shadako
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 22:59:00 -
[748] - Quote
I endorse this product or service. |

Harlequin Sweetlips
Emergent Entity KONZERN
7
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Posted - 2012.02.25 00:29:00 -
[749] - Quote
Rather stupidly, you brought attention to the Goons and made lots of people who had never bothered with them before hate them. This is why you will not be chairman after the election. Oh, and get a better beard. |

Johan Krieger
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
87
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 02:00:00 -
[750] - Quote
Harlequin Sweetlips wrote:Rather stupidly, you brought attention to the Goons and made lots of people who had never bothered with them before hate them. This is why you will not be chairman after the election. Oh, and get a better beard.
Not the beard jokes, anything but the beard jokes! |
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
135
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 03:31:00 -
[751] - Quote
HAY I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERUONE OF SOME IMAGE MACRO I FOUND |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
165
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 03:41:00 -
[752] - Quote
Killstealing wrote:i would like to remind anyone who is about to take this seriously to remember that this is the type of person who mines in eve
miners are ********. That's a very important bit of information. Thanks for informing me of it. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 07:04:00 -
[753] - Quote
I want to know what my CEO is going to do about the state of the jukebox in eve. There hasn't been any new music in it in years. It needs some new tunes. |

Richter Enderas
Coronal Core Research Inc Elite Space Guild
20
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 09:11:00 -
[754] - Quote
Lapine Davion wrote:I want to know what my CEO is going to do about the state of the jukebox in eve. There hasn't been any new music in it in years. It needs some new tunes.
combat music on the playlist please~ |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
437
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 13:56:00 -
[755] - Quote
Harlequin Sweetlips wrote:Rather stupidly, you brought attention to the Goons and made lots of people who had never bothered with them before hate them. This is why you will not be chairman after the election. Oh, and get a better beard. im gonna quote this so that when you sober up tomorrow you can look back and laugh at what you posted |

Richter Enderas
Coronal Core Research Inc Elite Space Guild
20
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 16:50:00 -
[756] - Quote
Harlequin Sweetlips wrote:Rather stupidly, you brought attention to the Goons and made lots of people who had never bothered with them before hate them. This is why you will not be chairman after the election. Oh, and get a better beard.
dunno what kind of jenkem you are huffing but
the mittani has done more for this game, for better or worse (mostly the former) than anyone else on the csm in its entire history
this isn't bias or brown-nosing, it's cold truth brah
and it's so fun to watch kids like you squirm around in your hisec cubby holes berating him like he is the devil incarnate
if you'd like, he can hang up the boots and we can go back down the path towards Microtransactions Online
i, for one, welcome our (not so) new goon overlords |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2463
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 17:24:00 -
[757] - Quote
Lapine Davion wrote:I want to know what my CEO is going to do about the state of the jukebox in eve. There hasn't been any new music in it in years. It needs some new tunes. EVE has sound? |

Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 17:29:00 -
[758] - Quote
Where is the Mittani to answer the many charges questions placed by the player base?
It's nearly a week since last he seemed to be bothered about CSM7.
Mind Mittens is one "lost sock" I wouldn't really want turning up. Too many holes in the fabric of what he stands for as a CSM candidate to be of any use really. 
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
165
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 17:42:00 -
[759] - Quote
Vote Mittani! (Because he'll end incursion income so that people are forced to stand on their heads in the 6' of shite known as 0.0 for a decent income stream...preferably in goon space so Mittens gets a cut.) http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
165
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 17:44:00 -
[760] - Quote
Delici Feelgood wrote:Where is the Mittani to answer the many charges questions placed by the player base? It's nearly a week since last he seemed to be bothered about CSM7. Mind Mittens is one " lost sock" I wouldn't really want turning up. Too many holes in the fabric of what he stands for as a CSM candidate to be of any use really. 
He's been less enthusiastic since he got busted being a poseur. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
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Ustrello
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 17:54:00 -
[761] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Delici Feelgood wrote:Where is the Mittani to answer the many charges questions placed by the player base? It's nearly a week since last he seemed to be bothered about CSM7. Mind Mittens is one " lost sock" I wouldn't really want turning up. Too many holes in the fabric of what he stands for as a CSM candidate to be of any use really.  He's been less enthusiastic since he got busted being a poseur.
Yes those are defiantly tears  |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2463
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 18:02:00 -
[762] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Delici Feelgood wrote:Where is the Mittani to answer the many charges questions placed by the player base? It's nearly a week since last he seemed to be bothered about CSM7. Mind Mittens is one " lost sock" I wouldn't really want turning up. Too many holes in the fabric of what he stands for as a CSM candidate to be of any use really.  He's been less enthusiastic since he got busted being a poseur. holy crap that is a bad blog |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2463
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 18:03:00 -
[763] - Quote
if i were that PB character i would probably be working pretty hard to get that erased from the internet and hope nobody ever saw it again |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2463
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 18:04:00 -
[764] - Quote
fortunately for that PB character the rest of the blog is so uninteresting and pathetic it is unlikely anyone will ever visit it again |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
165
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 18:12:00 -
[765] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:fortunately for that PB character the rest of the blog is so uninteresting and pathetic it is unlikely anyone will ever visit it again
So you found the front page interesting too? I guess so since you had to qualify your attack. So aside from attacking the rest of the blog, what are your thoughts on your boss getting cold-busted lying about being a pro politician who "thinks like Machiavelli?" http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 18:38:00 -
[766] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Weaselior wrote:fortunately for that PB character the rest of the blog is so uninteresting and pathetic it is unlikely anyone will ever visit it again So you found the front page interesting too? I guess so since you had to qualify your attack. So aside from attacking the rest of the blog, what are your thoughts on your boss getting cold-busted lying about being a pro politician who "thinks like Machiavelli?" I think its hilarious you think you're people |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 18:42:00 -
[767] - Quote
that getting mocked when you try to quote the prince is the highlight of your year so much you recusitated that horrid blog is basically the saddest thing I've ever heard
not only did you think you came out even slightly ahead there you were so proud you posted it n a blog and linked to the blog
some days I think I'm too hard on the common pubbie and then they go and do this |

Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 18:52:00 -
[768] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:that getting mocked when you try to quote the prince is the highlight of your year so much you recusitated that horrid blog is basically the saddest thing I've ever heard
not only did you think you came out even slightly ahead there you were so proud you posted it n a blog and linked to the blog
some days I think I'm too hard on the common pubbie and then they go and do this
That is really rich considering some of the BS and Claims Goons come out with their propoganda machine.
The questioning seems leading but the analysis of Mittens abilities or lack of understanding on a topic to which he claims to have some prowess seems quite clear to me. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
166
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 19:23:00 -
[769] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:that getting mocked when you try to quote the prince is the highlight of your year so much you recusitated that horrid blog is basically the saddest thing I've ever heard
not only did you think you came out even slightly ahead there you were so proud you posted it n a blog and linked to the blog
some days I think I'm too hard on the common pubbie and then they go and do this
You're not doing much to garner respect when you lean so heavily on insults and refuse to address the substance. I "tried to" quote Machiavelli? Actually no, I did quote him, and any fool with eyes can see that Machiavelli's instruction regarding appearance directly contradicts your boss' actions. The more mud you sling in an attempt to counter this, the worse you are making him and yourself look. Cranking up the volume doesn't make you right, it just makes you loud.
So do you want to take a shot at disproving my point, or are you going to continue to concede it by falling back on personal attacks? http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 19:43:00 -
[770] - Quote
yes let us reason with the unimportant nobody who thinks quoting the prince means he knows anything |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 19:45:00 -
[771] - Quote
he seems like a reasonable chap, sure to have his views affected by things like facts and reason, which is why he thinks he knows anything cause he quoted the prince to prove that he, an unimportant nobody with an unbroken record of failure, knows anything
for your next trick i presume you will quote ~sun tzu~ about how our next war will never work |

Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 19:50:00 -
[772] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:he seems like a reasonable chap, sure to have his views affected by things like facts and reason, which is why he thinks he knows anything cause he quoted the prince to prove that he, an unimportant nobody with an unbroken record of failure, knows anything about politics, the "success" of other people notwithstainding
So are you saying that the Mittani is an expert on everything? Even though clearly his understanding of a notable rennaissance diplomat is questionably suspect.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 19:53:00 -
[773] - Quote
Delici Feelgood wrote:Weaselior wrote:he seems like a reasonable chap, sure to have his views affected by things like facts and reason, which is why he thinks he knows anything cause he quoted the prince to prove that he, an unimportant nobody with an unbroken record of failure, knows anything about politics, the "success" of other people notwithstainding So are you saying that the Mittani is an expert on everything? Even though clearly his understanding of a notable rennaissance diplomat is questionably suspect. mittani is, presumably, an expert at winning space elections (having achieved more votes than anyone else ever in a csm election) and playing space dictator sucessfully, given that he heads up the most successful alliance in eve
mittani also presumably knows, unlike our dimwitted friend, that machiavellian has a different meaning in common english language than "to the letter follower of machiavelli", it instead refers to a certain disregard for ethics |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 19:54:00 -
[774] - Quote
but then, why am i reasoning with a noname npc alt |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 19:55:00 -
[775] - Quote
if you lie down and roll over you get a doggie biscuit! who wants the doggie biscuit? is it you? yes its you isn't it |

Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 19:58:00 -
[776] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:mittani is, presumably, an expert at winning space elections (having achieved more votes than anyone else ever in a csm election) and playing space dictator sucessfully, given that he heads up the most successful alliance in eve
Fair enough, just so that we are clear that his CV is mainly getting a block vote from his alliance and being able to head up an alliance, for which he claims that he delegates the everyday running to others (if certain presentations made by the Goons are to be believed) and nothing to do with facts or figures at all. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
166
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:03:00 -
[777] - Quote
Weaselior wrote: mittani also presumably knows, unlike our dimwitted friend, that machiavellian has a different meaning in common english language than "to the letter follower of machiavelli", it instead refers to a certain disregard for ethics
Hey look, a counterpoint. Thank you for finally putting one together.
Actually, a disregard for ethics would be covered by the definition of "unethical". When you invoke the name Machiavelli, it really does mean the core principles outlined by Machiavelli, especially in The Prince. Perhaps it has been dumbed-down a bit in your circle, but that's not surprising, nor does it validate anything.
Also, pointing to his success as a roleplayer really doesn't invalidate the fact that he's successful DESPITE completely failing to understand and apply Machiavelli. The worst part, however, is when he roleplays that he's actually Machiavellian while his actions directly contradict The Prince. It's not that he's failing to follow it "to the letter", implying a minor deviance from the core concepts. I can break it down further for you if you wish, but frankly the linked dialogue speaks for itself unless you're intentionally trying to pretend otherwise. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:03:00 -
[778] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Weaselior wrote:yes let us reason with the unimportant nobody who thinks quoting the prince means he knows anything Welp. What should I expect from an alliance who thinks posting ASCII penises to local is the height of communication. Local is for posting art, communication happens in mumble/teamspeak, alliance, corp chat, and intel channels.
You just don't apreciate our art. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:10:00 -
[779] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Weaselior wrote: mittani also presumably knows, unlike our dimwitted friend, that machiavellian has a different meaning in common english language than "to the letter follower of machiavelli", it instead refers to a certain disregard for ethics
Hey look, a counterpoint. Thank you for finally putting one together. Actually, a disregard for ethics would be covered by the definition of "unethical". When you invoke the name Machiavelli, it really does mean the core principles outlined by Machiavelli, especially in The Prince. Perhaps it has been dumbed-down a bit in your circle, but that's not surprising, nor does it validate anything. Also, pointing to his success as a roleplayer really doesn't invalidate the fact that he's successful DESPITE completely failing to understand and apply Machiavelli. The worst part, however, is when he roleplays that he's actually Machiavellian while his actions directly contradict The Prince. It's not that he's failing to follow it "to the letter", implying a minor deviance from the core concepts. I can break it down further for you if you wish, but frankly the linked dialogue speaks for itself unless you're intentionally trying to pretend otherwise. wrong, moron
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:10:00 -
[780] - Quote
this is why i don't reason with pubbies you can't reason with something incapable of thinking |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:11:00 -
[781] - Quote
if there is anyone capable of coherent thought who was puzzled, please see: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/machiavellian
definition 2&3 |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
166
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:14:00 -
[782] - Quote

Yes, everyone, please completely ignore the primary and secondary definitions. Only look at the tertiary. Nothing to see in 1 and 2, move along, nothing to see here! http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:14:00 -
[783] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:I mostly delegated discussion of hybrid issues to the CSM6 hybrid experts, Prometheus Exenthal and White Tree. I'm a nullsec sovwar guy, whether rails need a 10% buff and a 12% grid decrease is really too micro for me. I'd just mess things up.
I'm pretty happy with what Tallest has posted in his hybrid blog.
Another demonstration of the Mittani expertise and dedication to a subject. Which is pretty interesting since he has been missing for a week seemingly disinterested with CSM 7 and yet his campaign slogan is "Our" work is not yet done. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:20:00 -
[784] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote: Yes, everyone, please completely ignore the primary and secondary definitions. Only look at the tertiary. Nothing to see in 1 and 2, move along, nothing to see here! see this is why you don't let them think they're people
they start thinking their opinions mean anything to real people |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2465
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:21:00 -
[785] - Quote
and they're not intelligent enough to figure out they're wrong |

Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:27:00 -
[786] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:and they're not intelligent enough to figure out they're wrong
And clearly your level of debating skills is limited to a derogatory and contradictory stance. 
Such prowess. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
166
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:27:00 -
[787] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:and they're not intelligent enough to figure out they're wrong
Sure, if you're willing to believe that the third definition in the dictionary is actually the primary, and the primary should be disregarded. 1 is 3 and 3 is 1. Black is white, and white is black.  http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 20:29:00 -
[788] - Quote
Leave him be Weaselior, he has stapled the tinfoil to his skull to tight, and you can't fix stupid. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 21:15:00 -
[789] - Quote
wait, so by "interview" that pubbie actually meant he just edited together excerpts from this thread? that's even worse than riverini |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
28
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 21:30:00 -
[790] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:this is why i don't reason with pubbies you can't reason with something incapable of thinking
Not all pubbies are incapable of thinking, just the loud ones a lot of times.
P.S. How do I join Goonswarm? |
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Johan Krieger
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
87
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 21:41:00 -
[791] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Weaselior wrote:yes let us reason with the unimportant nobody who thinks quoting the prince means he knows anything Welp. What should I expect from an alliance who thinks posting ASCII penises to local is the height of communication.
ASCII penises are the absolute epitome of communication. |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
166
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 21:46:00 -
[792] - Quote
Berke Negri wrote:wait, so by "interview" that pubbie actually meant he just edited together excerpts from this thread? that's even worse than riverini
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/interview
As per standard Goon logic, please focus on the 2) and 3) in the definition, and ignore 1). Thank you. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
142
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 21:52:00 -
[793] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Weaselior wrote:and they're not intelligent enough to figure out they're wrong Sure, if you're willing to believe that the third definition in the dictionary is actually the primary, and the primary should be disregarded. 1 is 3 and 3 is 1. Black is white, and white is black. 
Hello, linguist irl here. FYI in most dictionaries, the order of the definitions is determined by the date of attestation, that is, the earliest known occurrence of that particular use of the word. Not the most frequent or the "most correct", whatever that means (hint: nothing). A notable exception to this is the American Heritage Dictionary, which orders by some type of usage frequency. However, in either case, there is no meaningful distinction among lexicographers of "primary", "secondary", "tertiary" etc. definitions. No definition is any less valid than the other, regardless of the numerical order in which they occur.
You can verify this by asking any lexicographer or just reading the introductory pages in any decent published dictionary.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
142
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 21:54:00 -
[794] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Berke Negri wrote:wait, so by "interview" that pubbie actually meant he just edited together excerpts from this thread? that's even worse than riverini http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/interviewAs per standard Goon logic, please focus on the 2) and 3) in the definition, and ignore 1). Thank you.
Thank you for confirming that you do not know how to use a dictionary. |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
28
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 22:19:00 -
[795] - Quote
Johan Krieger wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Weaselior wrote:this is why i don't reason with pubbies you can't reason with something incapable of thinking Not all pubbies are incapable of thinking, just the loud ones a lot of times. P.S. How do I join Goonswarm? Send me a 500 mil security deposit and i'll sponsor you in. Snypa
If you sponsor me in first, I'll send you 750 mil and you can keep 250. |

Shadako
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 22:20:00 -
[796] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Berke Negri wrote:wait, so by "interview" that pubbie actually meant he just edited together excerpts from this thread? that's even worse than riverini http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/interviewAs per standard Goon logic, please focus on the 2) and 3) in the definition, and ignore 1). Thank you.
There are no goons Bob killed them back during the D2 campaign what do you mean?
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Johan Krieger
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
88
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 22:22:00 -
[797] - Quote
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Johan Krieger wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Weaselior wrote:this is why i don't reason with pubbies you can't reason with something incapable of thinking Not all pubbies are incapable of thinking, just the loud ones a lot of times. P.S. How do I join Goonswarm? Send me a 500 mil security deposit and i'll sponsor you in. Snypa If you sponsor me in first, I'll send you 750 mil and you can keep 250.
deal evemail me |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
28
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 22:33:00 -
[798] - Quote
Johan Krieger wrote:deal evemail me Sent. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
173
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 22:36:00 -
[799] - Quote
Mittani CSM char 4lyfe. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
166
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 23:31:00 -
[800] - Quote
Johnny Marzetti wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Berke Negri wrote:wait, so by "interview" that pubbie actually meant he just edited together excerpts from this thread? that's even worse than riverini http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/interviewAs per standard Goon logic, please focus on the 2) and 3) in the definition, and ignore 1). Thank you. Thank you for confirming that you do not know how to use a dictionary.
Thank you for clarifying that my interview -was- an interview as only a linguist could. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
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Elson Tamar
Lion Investments
97
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 00:37:00 -
[801] - Quote
I'll vote for him as he is good for the CSM and i have a horrible feeling he actually may even keep his CSM role seperate from being Goon.
And I liked the Dog |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
166
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 00:56:00 -
[802] - Quote
Elson Tamar wrote:I'll vote for him as he is good for the CSM and i have a horrible feeling he actually may even keep his CSM role seperate from being Goon.
And I liked the Dog
You'd be wrong him keeping his roles separate. He actually references his CSM candidacy and in-game activities in the same sentence, for example:
The Mittani wrote: "i sling mud, i scam supercaps, and iGÇÖm a sadist, this isnGÇÖt new or particularly interesting"
I believe that parses to "i sling mud [in the election], i scam supercaps [in game scam], and iGÇÖm a sadist [both? not sure], this isnGÇÖt new or particularly interesting"
He goes on to say:
The Mittani wrote: In CSM6 I vowed that I would put my skill at raw bastardry to use GÇô to improve the game and make the CSM actually work; I did exactly that. IGÇÖm not a saint, an angel, or a ~nice guy~. Those kind of people donGÇÖt do well in a political group where your task is to influence and persuade others, to cut deals, to think in a Machiavellian manner.
Now that SOUNDS like The Mittani, his in-game role. But it references the CSM, which is not in-game, and what a "raw bastard" he was and will be in Iceland. How exactly is this approach "different" than how he plays Eve? http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
177
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 01:40:00 -
[803] - Quote
So much seriouspoast quoting. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Solinuas
Viziam Amarr Empire
77
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 02:43:00 -
[804] - Quote
You know, the funniest thing is princess whining about mittens will most likely have absolutely no effect on whether The Mittani gets elected, as the staggering majority of voters will either A. Vote for him despite her (Weak) arguments against it or B. Didn't read this thread anyway and voted anyway. Or C. will vote just BECAUSE of her arguments, just to know she raged when mittens got re-elected
Which of course brings up the question, if it isn't achieving anything, Why is she still here bitching about it?
Oh thats right, because most likely Princess likely has nothing better to do........ |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
177
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 02:46:00 -
[805] - Quote
Solinuas wrote:Which of course brings up the question, if it isn't achieving anything, Why is she still here bitching about it?
Oh thats right, because most likely Princess likely has nothing better to do........ Feeding off own inability to affect the world via posting?
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
606
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 02:56:00 -
[806] - Quote
It's so cute when someone hates someone else so much they'll literally spend DAYS looking for any way they can twist all the words the way they want. |

Xenuria
Peace Million Foundation Shadow of xXDEATHXx
336
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 03:19:00 -
[807] - Quote
Lord Zim wrote:It's so cute when someone hates someone else so much they'll literally spend DAYS looking for any way they can twist all the words the way they want.
Vote Xenuria CSM7 |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
166
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 03:25:00 -
[808] - Quote
Whining? Really all I've done is quote the candidate (and Machiavelli). As I've acknowledged previously, I view his election as inevitable, so I'll hardly be raging when it happens. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
166
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 03:32:00 -
[809] - Quote
Lord Zim wrote:It's so cute when someone hates someone else so much they'll literally spend DAYS looking for any way they can twist all the words the way they want.
Twist? Since when is fully quoting someone in context and on subject "twisting"? http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Solinuas
Viziam Amarr Empire
77
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 03:33:00 -
[810] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Whining? Really all I've done is quote the candidate (and Machiavelli). As I've acknowledged previously, I view his election as inevitable, so I'll hardly be raging when it happens.
But by your text throughout the thread you clearly view Mittens Re-election as a bad choice which it isn't, it is an interesting choice, which is better even than a good choice |
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
166
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 03:52:00 -
[811] - Quote
Solinuas wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Whining? Really all I've done is quote the candidate (and Machiavelli). As I've acknowledged previously, I view his election as inevitable, so I'll hardly be raging when it happens. But by your text throughout the thread you clearly view Mittens Re-election as a bad choice which it isn't, it is an interesting choice, which is better even than a good choice
Damn, that sounded really whiny. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
607
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 03:53:00 -
[812] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Lord Zim wrote:It's so cute when someone hates someone else so much they'll literally spend DAYS looking for any way they can twist all the words the way they want. Twist? Since when is fully quoting someone in context and on subject "twisting"? See, now you're doing it again. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
178
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 04:07:00 -
[813] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Lord Zim wrote:It's so cute when someone hates someone else so much they'll literally spend DAYS looking for any way they can twist all the words the way they want. Twist? Since when is fully quoting someone in context and on subject "twisting"? This is the internet, land of the citation needed.
Please just quote the whole entire essay the Mittani writes. It's good for even experienced forums readers to get a fresh look at his works.
Lord Zim wrote:See, now you're doing it again. Tsk, the internet isn't as forgiving as CONCORD. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
146
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 04:09:00 -
[814] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Berke Negri wrote:wait, so by "interview" that pubbie actually meant he just edited together excerpts from this thread? that's even worse than riverini http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/interviewAs per standard Goon logic, please focus on the 2) and 3) in the definition, and ignore 1). Thank you. Thank you for confirming that you do not know how to use a dictionary. Thank you for clarifying that my interview -was- an interview as only a linguist could.
Now you're just embarrassing yourself whether your realize it or not. The wise move would be to just drop it and find something else to do with your time. Forums PvP is not for everyone. |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
440
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 04:29:00 -
[815] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Weaselior wrote:yes let us reason with the unimportant nobody who thinks quoting the prince means he knows anything Welp. What should I expect from an alliance who thinks posting ASCII penises to local is the height of communication. it isn't, that's the whole point of shitting up local
holy **** you're ********. hey guys look at the ******, look at it |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
440
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 04:30:00 -
[816] - Quote
that interview was hilarious, I'd make a jab regarding EN24 here but even they write better pieces |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
178
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 04:33:00 -
[817] - Quote
Killstealing wrote:Princess Bride wrote:What should I expect from an alliance who thinks posting ASCII penises to local is the height of communication. it isn't, that's the whole point of shitting up local holy **** you're ********. hey guys look at the ******, look at it Yeah pretty much. That's what local is for.
But someone here doesn't understand the nuanced beauty of interpretive butte-dongue abstract art Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
465
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 05:05:00 -
[818] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote: Yes, everyone, please completely ignore the primary and secondary definitions. Only look at the tertiary. Nothing to see in 1 and 2, move along, nothing to see here! Wow you are really dumb, are you? English words always have had multiple meanings in the English language. There is no primary or tertiary BS. They're listed in the order of the most common meaning to the least common meaning in other words they're all primary definitions depending on the usage one uses. The English language has always been a very complex language and no one denies that. Another example, a friend of mine who served on a LDS mission to Croatia have said that it's the same way like English there where for example using the a certain word three times in a row will have a different meaning from each other.
What do I know? I'm a deaf stupid goon. Deafies are like really dumb people who aren't really human by any means. They're like gingers. They have no soul. (9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
179
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 08:42:00 -
[819] - Quote
Karadion wrote:What do I know? I'm a deaf stupid goon. Deafies are like really dumb people who aren't really human by any means. They're like gingers. They have no soul. We're also bad at EVE.
Shocked and horrified, you are. We know. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
127
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 15:32:00 -
[820] - Quote
Solinuas wrote:You know, the funniest thing is princess whining about mittens will most likely have absolutely no effect on whether The Mittani gets elected, as the staggering majority of voters will either A. Vote for him despite her (Weak) arguments against it or B. Didn't read this thread anyway and voted anyway. Or C. will vote just BECAUSE of her arguments, just to know she raged when mittens got re-elected
Which of course brings up the question, if it isn't achieving anything, Why is she still here bitching about it?
Oh thats right, because most likely Princess likely has nothing better to do........ Oh, i hope it is C, please let it be C, because I want to see the howling rage meltdown played out on the forums. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
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Phigmeta
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
27
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 16:37:00 -
[821] - Quote
it has been 2 weeks since i posted in this thread.
its now been 4 seconds
1 sec...
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Oroan
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 19:35:00 -
[822] - Quote
Nirnaeth Ornoediad wrote:Everyone should ask themselves one simple question: are you better off after Crucible, or before Crucible? If the latter, find another game to play space barbies. If the former, then re-elect The Mittani. He doesn't need the CSM chairmanship to advance GSF's agenda: technetium does that well enough, thank you. He does want EVE to be less horrible, however, and he's the only CSM candidate capable of leading the CSM in a manner which helps CCP do that.
This pretty much says enough |

Snot Snot
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 19:39:00 -
[823] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:Solinuas wrote:You know, the funniest thing is princess whining about mittens will most likely have absolutely no effect on whether The Mittani gets elected, as the staggering majority of voters will either A. Vote for him despite her (Weak) arguments against it or B. Didn't read this thread anyway and voted anyway. Or C. will vote just BECAUSE of her arguments, just to know she raged when mittens got re-elected
Which of course brings up the question, if it isn't achieving anything, Why is she still here bitching about it?
Oh thats right, because most likely Princess likely has nothing better to do........ Oh, i hope it is C, please let it be C, because I want to see the howling rage meltdown played out on the forums. 
lawl typical goon13 bad at pvp
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
187
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 20:00:00 -
[824] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:Solinuas wrote:C. will vote just BECAUSE of her arguments, just to know she raged when mittens got re-elected Oh, i hope it is C, please let it be C, because I want to see the howling rage meltdown played out on the forums.  Yes, press butan C.
Snot Snot wrote:lawl typical goon13 bad at pvp We're not the ~elite pvp~ caliber, certainly. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5422
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 20:04:00 -
[825] - Quote
oh man, that guy literally wrote fanfic about me, and still thinks me being a sadist is somehow a /bad/ thing
i love you, internet~ The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Sephiroth CloneIIV
Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK
56
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 20:35:00 -
[826] - Quote
He called a hit team on me for badposting that killed my ratting domi, and my pod, but I support and will vote for him. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
187
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 20:47:00 -
[827] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:oh man, that guy literally wrote fanfic about me, and still thinks me being a sadist is somehow a /bad/ thing
i love you, internet~ Where can I find this fanfic? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
441
|
Posted - 2012.02.27 02:06:00 -
[828] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:oh man, that guy literally wrote fanfic about me, and still thinks me being a sadist is somehow a /bad/ thing
i love you, internet~ oh stop it, we all know you're getting off to this |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
441
|
Posted - 2012.02.27 02:31:00 -
[829] - Quote
also the only way to be good at eve is to not play it, eve is one of those things where if you do it more often you get worse at it |

D Derp
xXxSePhIrOtHSSJ420xXx W33D4LYFE Fanclub
2
|
Posted - 2012.02.27 03:06:00 -
[830] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Princess Bride wrote: Yes, everyone, please completely ignore the primary and secondary definitions. Only look at the tertiary. Nothing to see in 1 and 2, move along, nothing to see here! Wow you are really dumb, are you? English words always have had multiple meanings in the English language. There is no primary or tertiary BS. They're listed in the order of the most common meaning to the least common meaning in other words they're all primary definitions depending on the usage one uses.
Internet-aspergers.
Not you, the robotic "THAT IS NOT THE ASSIGNED DEFINITION" guy.
Snype. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
188
|
Posted - 2012.02.27 04:06:00 -
[831] - Quote
That's interesting. So there's a specific internet type of this, huh .. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

The Bailiff
Innsmouth Inshore Lifeboat Service
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.27 12:09:00 -
[832] - Quote
I like the cut of this man's jib. |

Richter Enderas
Coronal Core Research Inc Elite Space Guild
20
|
Posted - 2012.02.27 16:07:00 -
[833] - Quote
welcome to asperger king
where your very specific order is our mumble mumble |

Devon Aidendale
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.27 18:34:00 -
[834] - Quote
Humility Meaning and Definition.
An act of submission or courtesy.
The state or quality of being humble; freedom from pride and arrogance;
lowliness of mind; a modest estimate of one's own worth;
a sense of one's own unworthiness through imperfection and sinfulness; self-abasement;
humbleness. |

iNfeck7ed
Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn
17
|
Posted - 2012.02.27 21:56:00 -
[835] - Quote
Big Bump, Big Bro |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
444
|
Posted - 2012.02.28 01:25:00 -
[836] - Quote
My hands face and neck was covered in the poor beastGÇÖs blood. I felt ashamed, but my gut was saying otherwise, bulging with food. I felt content now. Unfortunately. Only for a few moments. I looked down and saw that the scales had crawled up past my arms and to the base of my neck. My feet had finished deforming, long digits of three with menacing claws aching to be impaled with an animals flesh. I delighted in thinking about it. No, wait, I donGÇÖt. With a shudder at the conflicting thoughts, my attention drifted to my legs. However, my examination was cut short by just how bad my vision was. Everything was blurry now. I could barely see. I let myself sit back and rest. Before I could fall back into sleep, however, Kerrigan made her appearance again. GÇ£Wow. ErGǪ.GÇ¥ I heard the sound of clinking platters and what was probably the bone, GÇ£ Well. You still hungry?GÇ¥ My eyes shot open. GÇ£Yes!GÇ¥ I heard myself exclaim, but I didnGÇÖt realize it until a few moments after. I corrected myself and sat back down. Putting my deforming hand against my forehead, I sighed with frustration. Kerrigan plopped down and lied next to me. I felt her breath against my cheek, and heard the inhale and exhale of her lungs. Her scent. Something about itGǪ I canGÇÖt grasp the word. A peculiar musk of some sort, a perfume. |

Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:57:00 -
[837] - Quote
Killstealing wrote:My hands face and neck was covered in the poor beastGÇÖs blood. I felt ashamed, but my gut was saying otherwise, bulging with food. I felt content now. Unfortunately. Only for a few moments. I looked down and saw that the scales had crawled up past my arms and to the base of my neck. My feet had finished deforming, long digits of three with menacing claws aching to be impaled with an animals flesh. I delighted in thinking about it. No, wait, I donGÇÖt. With a shudder at the conflicting thoughts, my attention drifted to my legs. However, my examination was cut short by just how bad my vision was. Everything was blurry now. I could barely see. I let myself sit back and rest. Before I could fall back into sleep, however, Kerrigan made her appearance again. GÇ£Wow. ErGǪ.GÇ¥ I heard the sound of clinking platters and what was probably the bone, GÇ£ Well. You still hungry?GÇ¥ My eyes shot open. GÇ£Yes!GÇ¥ I heard myself exclaim, but I didnGÇÖt realize it until a few moments after. I corrected myself and sat back down. Putting my deforming hand against my forehead, I sighed with frustration. Kerrigan plopped down and lied next to me. I felt her breath against my cheek, and heard the inhale and exhale of her lungs. Her scent. Something about itGǪ I canGÇÖt grasp the word. A peculiar musk of some sort, a perfume.
Vote The Mittani for CSM7 Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460 |

Jobrosk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.28 03:46:00 -
[838] - Quote
Oh captain my captain!
Mittani fo life! |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1686
|
Posted - 2012.02.28 04:08:00 -
[839] - Quote
Chairman For Life Mittani has my vote even though he doesn't need it. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Ka P'lah
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
4
|
Posted - 2012.02.28 14:02:00 -
[840] - Quote
Well, The (...Can I call you The? It's a bit informal, I know, but I'm afraid I'm not entirely comfortable using something like "Grand Space Leader of Leaders"...good thing yer such an accommodating kind of guy, thanks... ), you're smart, effective, good at organizing, and good at the social / networking aspects. Credit where credit is due. (but ya don't suffer from low self esteem, do ya? ;D ) I think you're well aware that many players in EVE might be a little wary of you, hoping you use your powers for good, as it were.
I'd like to think you are smart enough to see that a healthy future eve means more fun for all, however we play, as we are all - sorry if it causes trauma for anyone, just kinda those pesky fact things - dependent on each other overall in making this the big sandbox we all enjoy.
So, allow me to quote myself from another thread: "'I'm pretty amazed at how so many EVE players - very much including most of the CSM candidates - freak out at the mention of WiS / ambulation. Folks...it's coming...can't you see the future direction of EVE? Dust 514 will be a success, I think (whatever might happen with it's initial success, I doubt the concept of the Eve tie-in is going away [but I kind of think dust might do ok...]), and more and more tie-ins moving in the direction of avatars walking / driving / skimming / shooting around are going to be part of EVE. The incarna thing was messed up...do you really want that kind of disaster again? Ignoring ambulation and treating the idea with utter contempt risks CCP not developing the game with player input in this critical area. The spaceships-first positive focus CCP has realized is their good core game is always going to remain the way it is as CCP has more success and starts making more money with avatar-enhancing game additions? Dismissing WiS / ambulation with a sneer as whiny ridiculous spacepantsbarbiefluff rather than recognizing that it's gonna happen and needs to be done right with the proper focus on spaceship game-first is shortsighted and dangerous to a healthy future EVE."
Seems that far from going away if we ignore it, the issue with the WiS / ambulation thing is something the CSM will face ongoing. I just hope the CSM doesn't let the disgust generated for all by the incarna disaster blind them to trying to get CCP to do it right (meaning don't sacrifice FiS to do it, don't make it an either-or thing CCP, do both), since it's coming in some form, bad or good eventually... So I'm trusting you're smart enough to see what's coming, The, and what it could mean to our game (including, of course the hunting for your associates and every other activity of those you consider your constituents...and the rest of course :) ). So, if you're gonna be the CSM guy - you got this?
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Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
614
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Posted - 2012.02.28 14:26:00 -
[841] - Quote
The concept of WiS was good. The current implementation and direction was ****, and I seem to remember something being said about how there was a huge difference from what CCP said to the CSM, and what CCP delivered, which would account for the 180 degree change in attitude. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5488
|
Posted - 2012.02.28 21:07:00 -
[842] - Quote
Ka P'lah wrote: Well, The (...Can I call you The? It's a bit informal, I know, but I'm afraid I'm not entirely comfortable using something like "Grand Space Leader of Leaders"...good thing yer such an accommodating kind of guy, thanks... ), you're smart, effective, good at organizing, and good at the social / networking aspects. Credit where credit is due. (but ya don't suffer from low self esteem, do ya? ;D ) I think you're well aware that many players in EVE might be a little wary of you, hoping you use your powers for good, as it were.
I'd like to think you are smart enough to see that a healthy future eve means more fun for all, however we play, as we are all - sorry if it causes trauma for anyone, just kinda those pesky fact things - dependent on each other overall in making this the big sandbox we all enjoy.
So, allow me to quote myself from another thread: "'I'm pretty amazed at how so many EVE players - very much including most of the CSM candidates - freak out at the mention of WiS / ambulation. Folks...it's coming...can't you see the future direction of EVE? Dust 514 will be a success, I think (whatever might happen with it's initial success, I doubt the concept of the Eve tie-in is going away [but I kind of think dust might do ok...]), and more and more tie-ins moving in the direction of avatars walking / driving / skimming / shooting around are going to be part of EVE. The incarna thing was messed up...do you really want that kind of disaster again? Ignoring ambulation and treating the idea with utter contempt risks CCP not developing the game with player input in this critical area. The spaceships-first positive focus CCP has realized is their good core game is always going to remain the way it is as CCP has more success and starts making more money with avatar-enhancing game additions? Dismissing WiS / ambulation with a sneer as whiny ridiculous spacepantsbarbiefluff rather than recognizing that it's gonna happen and needs to be done right with the proper focus on spaceship game-first is shortsighted and dangerous to a healthy future EVE."
Seems that far from going away if we ignore it, the issue with the WiS / ambulation thing is something the CSM will face ongoing. I just hope the CSM doesn't let the disgust generated for all by the incarna disaster blind them to trying to get CCP to do it right (meaning don't sacrifice FiS to do it, don't make it an either-or thing CCP, do both), since it's coming in some form, bad or good eventually... So I'm trusting you're smart enough to see what's coming, The, and what it could mean to our game (including, of course the hunting for your associates and every other activity of those you consider your constituents...and the rest of course :) ). So, if you're gonna be the CSM guy - you got this?
Just call me Mittens, it's a lot easier.
I actually supported Incarna as it was initially presented in the design stages. It seemed like a necessary evolution. I didn't expect it to be so utterly botched, that botch timed with the disastrous planning failure of the NeX store, set video cards on fire, and have no follow-up establishment gameplay after literally years of work.
Most of us see Incarna as a symbol of the worst sort of Icelandic Kool-Aid, and while we suspect it will eventually be developed, it should only be developed after badly-needed resources which were wasted on Incarna's failures go to patching the holes in the actual game we play. You know, the one about spaceships.
If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
35
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Posted - 2012.02.29 06:14:00 -
[843] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:holy crap you guys spent the last three pages arguing about 'if i sling mud' and having non-lawyers trying to parse legal phrases
i sling mud, i scam supercaps, and i'm a sadist, this isn't new or particularly interesting
I'll agree it isn't new, but I do think it is particularly interesting. I support The Mittani for CSM 7 for the whole of EVE, including mining. |

Whiskey Juvenile
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
|
Posted - 2012.02.29 07:11:00 -
[844] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Ka P'lah wrote: Well, The (...Can I call you The? It's a bit informal, I know, but I'm afraid I'm not entirely comfortable using something like "Grand Space Leader of Leaders"...good thing yer such an accommodating kind of guy, thanks... ), you're smart, effective, good at organizing, and good at the social / networking aspects. Credit where credit is due. (but ya don't suffer from low self esteem, do ya? ;D ) I think you're well aware that many players in EVE might be a little wary of you, hoping you use your powers for good, as it were.
I'd like to think you are smart enough to see that a healthy future eve means more fun for all, however we play, as we are all - sorry if it causes trauma for anyone, just kinda those pesky fact things - dependent on each other overall in making this the big sandbox we all enjoy.
So, allow me to quote myself from another thread: "'I'm pretty amazed at how so many EVE players - very much including most of the CSM candidates - freak out at the mention of WiS / ambulation. Folks...it's coming...can't you see the future direction of EVE? Dust 514 will be a success, I think (whatever might happen with it's initial success, I doubt the concept of the Eve tie-in is going away [but I kind of think dust might do ok...]), and more and more tie-ins moving in the direction of avatars walking / driving / skimming / shooting around are going to be part of EVE. The incarna thing was messed up...do you really want that kind of disaster again? Ignoring ambulation and treating the idea with utter contempt risks CCP not developing the game with player input in this critical area. The spaceships-first positive focus CCP has realized is their good core game is always going to remain the way it is as CCP has more success and starts making more money with avatar-enhancing game additions? Dismissing WiS / ambulation with a sneer as whiny ridiculous spacepantsbarbiefluff rather than recognizing that it's gonna happen and needs to be done right with the proper focus on spaceship game-first is shortsighted and dangerous to a healthy future EVE."
Seems that far from going away if we ignore it, the issue with the WiS / ambulation thing is something the CSM will face ongoing. I just hope the CSM doesn't let the disgust generated for all by the incarna disaster blind them to trying to get CCP to do it right (meaning don't sacrifice FiS to do it, don't make it an either-or thing CCP, do both), since it's coming in some form, bad or good eventually... So I'm trusting you're smart enough to see what's coming, The, and what it could mean to our game (including, of course the hunting for your associates and every other activity of those you consider your constituents...and the rest of course :) ). So, if you're gonna be the CSM guy - you got this?
Just call me Mittens, it's a lot easier. I actually supported Incarna as it was initially presented in the design stages. It seemed like a necessary evolution. I didn't expect it to be so utterly botched, that botch timed with the disastrous planning failure of the NeX store, set video cards on fire, and have no follow-up establishment gameplay after literally years of work. Most of us see Incarna as a symbol of the worst sort of Icelandic Kool-Aid, and while we suspect it will eventually be developed, it should only be developed after badly-needed resources which were wasted on Incarna's failures go to patching the holes in the actual game we play. You know, the one about spaceships. If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
When you get into the mindset of calling what we were presented for WiS "Incarna", and call what was actually promised "Ambulation", Mittani's stance is pretty good. Dude liked what WiS was supposed to be, thinks that CCP botched it hard, and pretty much now needs to be humbled and put in the "time out corner" for a bit to learn their lesson before they are allowed to make realdolls in space again. |

Ka P'lah
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
6
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Posted - 2012.02.29 07:30:00 -
[845] - Quote
The Mittani wrote: I actually supported Incarna as it was initially presented in the design stages. It seemed like a necessary evolution. ...
and then right after:
The Mittani wrote: If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
Mmkk....So let me get this straight - you know that it's a good idea if it were to be done right and is coming, but anyone who might think that should just go away?...got it...makes total sense... So it's gonna be the blinded to the direction the game will eventually take by the disgusting failure CCP bungled with incarna then is it? Alright...
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1699
|
Posted - 2012.02.29 07:49:00 -
[846] - Quote
Ka P'lah wrote:The Mittani wrote: I actually supported Incarna as it was initially presented in the design stages. It seemed like a necessary evolution. ...
and then right after: The Mittani wrote: If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
Mmkk....So let me get this straight - you know that it's a good idea if it were to be done right and is coming, but anyone who might think that should just go away?...got it...makes total sense... So it's gonna be the blinded to the direction the game will eventually take by the disgusting failure CCP bungled with incarna then is it? Alright...
Issler Dainze alt spotted.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Ka P'lah
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
6
|
Posted - 2012.02.29 07:56:00 -
[847] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Issler Dainze alt spotted.
Nope, sorry bud.
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
783
|
Posted - 2012.02.29 15:00:00 -
[848] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Skippermonkey cant even make it as a Director in his corporation, but i can tell he has what it takes to lead the CSM. If i wasnt running for CSM myself i'd vote for him!
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5506
|
Posted - 2012.02.29 15:19:00 -
[849] - Quote
Ka P'lah wrote:The Mittani wrote: I actually supported Incarna as it was initially presented in the design stages. It seemed like a necessary evolution. ...
and then right after: The Mittani wrote: If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
Mmkk....So let me get this straight - you know that it's a good idea if it were to be done right and is coming, but anyone who might think that should just go away?...got it...makes total sense... So it's gonna be the blinded to the direction the game will eventually take by the disgusting failure CCP bungled with incarna then is it? Alright...
If you don't understand why the practical effect of the Incarna botch has everyone with any kind of business sense leery of expending more work on WiS, I don't know what to tell you. All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
783
|
Posted - 2012.02.29 15:22:00 -
[850] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions
true story
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Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
52
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Posted - 2012.02.29 16:27:00 -
[851] - Quote
The Mittani wrote: If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
We really don't want to bring up what people do In Second Life in this forum. This is a respectful sort of place, after all, and one shudders at the wanton hedonism of such venues.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
|
Posted - 2012.02.29 16:39:00 -
[852] - Quote
Skippermonkey wrote:The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions true story I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
784
|
Posted - 2012.02.29 17:11:00 -
[853] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions true story I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM? Indeed, CSM is srs bizness, and i intend to use BOTH my knees if elected
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knobber Jobbler
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
40
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:14:00 -
[854] - Quote
Nirnaeth Ornoediad wrote:The Mittani wrote: If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
We really don't want to bring up what people do In Second Life in this forum. This is a respectful sort of place, after all, and one shudders at the wanton hedonism of such venues.
There are EVE channels for Second lifers...I once made the mistake I'll pass on now to everyone who reads this, of going to the EVE furries channel. I understand there are many more channels Xenuira occupies where they talk about deviant practices. |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
132
|
Posted - 2012.02.29 21:13:00 -
[855] - Quote
Skippermonkey wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions true story I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM? Indeed, CSM is srs bizness, and i intend to use BOTH my knees if elected Just as long as those knees find CCPs groin if they try something stupid, again. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:25:00 -
[856] - Quote
Skippermonkey wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions true story I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM? Indeed, CSM is srs bizness, and i intend to use BOTH my knees if elected
Why wait until you are(n't) elected? You can get started right now! *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip* |

Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
79
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:33:00 -
[857] - Quote
Triskian wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions true story I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM? Indeed, CSM is srs bizness, and i intend to use BOTH my knees if elected Why wait until you are(n't) elected? You can get started right now! *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip*
Best use of goonswarm knees in 6 CSM's.
Manufacturing Papercuts ***CSM Interstellar Debate - Mining Profession**
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Ka P'lah
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
6
|
Posted - 2012.02.29 22:08:00 -
[858] - Quote
Quote:If you don't understand why the practical effect of the Incarna botch has everyone with any kind of business sense leery of expending more work on WiS, I don't know what to tell you. All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June.
mmmkay. I'll consider myself put in my place. Sorry for being uppity. |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
581
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Posted - 2012.02.29 22:49:00 -
[859] - Quote
Ka P'lah wrote:Quote:If you don't understand why the practical effect of the Incarna botch has everyone with any kind of business sense leery of expending more work on WiS, I don't know what to tell you. All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. mmmkay. I'll consider myself put in my place. Sorry for being uppity. Being reasonable is not allowed in this thread. GTFO. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
|
Posted - 2012.03.01 01:17:00 -
[860] - Quote
Revolution Rising wrote:Triskian wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM?
Indeed, CSM is srs bizness, and i intend to use BOTH my knees if elected Why wait until you are(n't) elected? You can get started right now! *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip* Best use of goonswarm knees in 6 CSM's. Goonswarm, staying classy on an internet spaceships game forum. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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Iris Bravemount
Aliastra Gallente Federation
60
|
Posted - 2012.03.01 01:22:00 -
[861] - Quote
Hi,
I came to this thread, determined to read more about this candidate so often described as the demon overlord of the evil goons. I really wanted to make my own opinion on the famous Mittani.
But seriously guys, pages and pages of you drooling in front of your idol from the very first page on only made me skip to the last page.
So, please Mittani, could you detail your program in a spam free place? And I mean really detailled, not just vague slogans, however promising they are. I am definately enclined to read dozens of pages of what you have to say, but please keep your fans at bay.
Regards,
Iris Improve weapon sound effects |

Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
|
Posted - 2012.03.01 01:51:00 -
[862] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do. Stick penises on everything and waste hours playing video poker. At least, that's all I can remember about the place. Except for W^, which stuck poker on everything and played video penises. Those scamps. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
|
Posted - 2012.03.01 02:53:00 -
[863] - Quote
Iris Bravemount wrote:But seriously guys, pages and pages of you drooling in front of your idol from the very first page on only made me skip to the last page. Oh well. This reminds me of that time someone wanted to talk to Mittani on TS/Mumble too. He tried very hard... Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Iris Bravemount
Aliastra Gallente Federation
60
|
Posted - 2012.03.01 03:03:00 -
[864] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Iris Bravemount wrote:But seriously guys, pages and pages of you drooling in front of your idol from the very first page on only made me skip to the last page. Oh well. This reminds me of that time someone wanted to talk to Mittani on TS/Mumble too. He tried very hard...
A link to a nice (and related) pdf and/or blog is all I'm asking for. Improve weapon sound effects |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5511
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Posted - 2012.03.01 03:17:00 -
[865] - Quote
Iris Bravemount wrote:Hi,
I came to this thread, determined to read more about this candidate so often described as the demon overlord of the evil goons. I really wanted to make my own opinion on the famous Mittani.
But seriously guys, pages and pages of you drooling in front of your idol from the very first page on only made me skip to the last page.
So, please Mittani, could you detail your program in a spam free place? And I mean really detailled, not just vague slogans, however promising they are. I am definately enclined to read dozens of pages of what you have to say, but please keep your fans at bay.
Regards,
Iris
My views on a whole pile of issues can be found in my Chairman's thread, linked in my sig, as well as almost 3 years worth of Tentonhammer columns. I don't have a consolidated 'platform document' as those are rubbish, neither did I have one last year. If you're so eager to read pages and pages, you'll appreciate the nuance. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
|
Posted - 2012.03.01 03:32:00 -
[866] - Quote
I wonder if they'll read that thread if they didn't read this one... Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

esc shk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
61
|
Posted - 2012.03.01 09:08:00 -
[867] - Quote
ALL WOMEN ARE MANIPULATIVE WHORES TEACH ME THEIR WAYS SO I MAY TRICK ONE INTO SHOWING ME THE MAGICAL VAGINA |

Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
37
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Posted - 2012.03.01 13:01:00 -
[868] - Quote
YouGÇÖre on the short-list! what would be your Dream Team? |

DoraTheExplora Taft
The Management.
7
|
Posted - 2012.03.01 17:51:00 -
[869] - Quote
art imitates life! I am in shock this dogmatic wordsmith has captured my heartstrings and played them like musical instruments! I approve! No really I mean... wtf this is video game I want the most insane bombastic csm possible to increase the "these internet are serious bidness" quotient of csm. I want these people to scare ccp and remind them they're horrible people for allowing this abomination of a game to exist. |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
448
|
Posted - 2012.03.01 21:52:00 -
[870] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Iris Bravemount wrote:But seriously guys, pages and pages of you drooling in front of your idol from the very first page on only made me skip to the last page. Oh well. This reminds me of that time someone wanted to talk to Mittani on TS/Mumble too. He tried very hard... grothsmore actually sent me a pm to join broski (to be blue to The Goonies) but I wasnt allowed to accept him |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
208
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Posted - 2012.03.01 23:46:00 -
[871] - Quote
Killstealing wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Oh well. This reminds me of that time someone wanted to talk to Mittani on TS/Mumble too. He tried very hard... grothsmore actually sent me a pm to join broski (to be blue to The Goonies) but I wasnt allowed to accept him Heh, maybe he could get into TEST, I hear they'll pick people who ask for them on recruitment channel. Or was it some other corp, I can't remember.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
37
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Posted - 2012.03.02 02:14:00 -
[872] - Quote
DoraTheExplora Taft wrote:art imitates life! I am in shock this dogmatic wordsmith has captured my heartstrings and played them like musical instruments! I approve! No really I mean... wtf this is video game I want the most insane bombastic csm possible to increase the "these internet are serious bidness" quotient of csm. I want these people to scare ccp and remind them they're horrible people for allowing this abomination of a game to exist.
Rift is an abomination of a game. Not because it's bad, but because it brings absolutely nothing new to the table. It's WoW for the price of WoW but with less content, less class design, and poor class balancing.
Love it or hate it, you have to admit EVE Online is a very unique game. Even that alone is enough reason for CCP to be proud, but I think having your game appear in civilian newscasts around the world just as often as WoW is also pretty exceptional. I support The Mittani for CSM 7 for the whole of EVE, including mining. |

Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
30
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Posted - 2012.03.02 02:42:00 -
[873] - Quote
Iris Bravemount wrote:Hi,
I came to this thread, determined to read more about this candidate so often described as the demon overlord of the evil goons. I really wanted to make my own opinion on the famous Mittani.
But seriously guys, pages and pages of you drooling in front of your idol from the very first page on only made me skip to the last page.
So, please Mittani, could you detail your program in a spam free place? And I mean really detailled, not just vague slogans, however promising they are. I am definately enclined to read dozens of pages of what you have to say, but please keep your fans at bay.
Regards,
Iris
Pretty much this ('definately' aside.) Alex asks for a 'mandate' without providing a platform. (unless this is his idea of a 'mandate'.) Either stand for something or step aside for someone who will.
CCP's about face came as a result of the summer of rage and the unsubscriptions. CSM VI did everything in its power to diminish the effect and magnitude of those protests by spouting CCP happytalk. Alex taking credit for CCP's about face is like the Darth Vader kid thinking he started his Dad's car.
That being said, Alex will be chair again simply as a result of being able to order his cyber-serfs around. Don't be foolish enough to give him more votes than he already has. |

Mechaet
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.02 17:36:00 -
[874] - Quote
Cyber-serf reporting in. |

Yeep
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.03.02 18:10:00 -
[875] - Quote
Confirming that as a cyber serf I can be ordered to man date The Mittani at any time |

Rochefort Trappistes
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2012.03.02 19:01:00 -
[876] - Quote
Yeep wrote:Confirming that as a cyber serf I can be ordered to man date The Mittani at any time
You should be happy, I have to date Monty.  |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2279
|
Posted - 2012.03.02 19:08:00 -
[877] - Quote
Jonathan Ferguson wrote:Pretty much this ('definately' aside.) Alex asks for a 'mandate' without providing a platform. (unless this is his idea of a 'mandate'.) Either stand for something or step aside for someone who will. CCP's about face came as a result of the summer of rage and the unsubscriptions. CSM VI did everything in its power to diminish the effect and magnitude of those protests by spouting CCP happytalk. Alex taking credit for CCP's about face is like the Darth Vader kid thinking he started his Dad's car. That being said, Alex will be chair again simply as a result of being able to order his cyber-serfs around. Don't be foolish enough to give him more votes than he already has.
Yes CCP really got the message when a bunch of idiots shot a statue for hours on end and unsubbed cyno alts "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
210
|
Posted - 2012.03.02 19:09:00 -
[878] - Quote
Andski wrote:Yes CCP really got the message when a bunch of idiots shot a statue for hours on end and unsubbed cyno alts Man, we shoot structures for days on end. Listen to us! Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2279
|
Posted - 2012.03.02 19:11:00 -
[879] - Quote
to drive the point home a bit, what do you think is more useful to the devs? tossing horrible ideas at the CSM and getting feedback on how terrible they are, or putting those horrible ideas into the game and reversing them when the unsub cascade hits? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
454
|
Posted - 2012.03.02 19:51:00 -
[880] - Quote
the devs should hire a guy who follows them around all day and makes sarcastic/cynic remarks about everything they say.
i can be contacted at: |
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Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:37:00 -
[881] - Quote
Is there any truth to the rumor that you bought a dog with RMTed funds from moongoo sales to russians? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
210
|
Posted - 2012.03.02 21:11:00 -
[882] - Quote
Andski wrote:to drive the point home a bit, what do you think is more useful to the devs? tossing horrible ideas at the CSM and getting feedback on how terrible they are, or putting those horrible ideas into the game and reversing them when the unsub cascade hits? The latter encourages highsec structure shoots. I can't be too harsh. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.03.02 21:12:00 -
[883] - Quote
Andski wrote:to drive the point home a bit, what do you think is more useful to the devs? tossing horrible ideas at the CSM and getting feedback on how terrible they are, or putting those horrible ideas into the game and reversing them when the unsub cascade hits? I prefer the latter just because it is funny when people get riled up over spaceships. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5553
|
Posted - 2012.03.02 22:13:00 -
[884] - Quote
Jonathan Ferguson wrote:Pretty much this ('definately' aside.) Alex asks for a 'mandate' without providing a platform. (unless this is his idea of a 'mandate'.) Either stand for something or step aside for someone who will. CCP's about face came as a result of the summer of rage and the unsubscriptions. CSM VI did everything in its power to diminish the effect and magnitude of those protests by spouting CCP happytalk. Alex taking credit for CCP's about face is like the Darth Vader kid thinking he started his Dad's car. That being said, Alex will be chair again simply as a result of being able to order his cyber-serfs around. Don't be foolish enough to give him more votes than he already has.
Ah, where would we be without Akjon, the poster so bad he got chased out of failheap?
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
455
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:32:00 -
[885] - Quote
"ultimatums are something people new to politics and teenagers think are effective"
gg no re |

Mechaet
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 04:19:00 -
[886] - Quote
Meester Meessani can I have a quession? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
212
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 07:21:00 -
[887] - Quote
Killstealing wrote:"ultimatums are something people new to politics and teenagers think are effective"
gg no re Just one of several amazing lines. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
42
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Posted - 2012.03.03 07:45:00 -
[888] - Quote
If it pleases you to respond, how smart is Derek Smart?
Also, how important is it for EVE to retain it's art team? |

Elson Tamar
Lion Investments
100
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 11:10:00 -
[889] - Quote
Actually i just realised I dont need to vote for him as he will be in anyway, doh as he has enough votes before starting out to get in and on the final 7 seats, I may as well vote for someone else who also represents me!
Still like the dog though, big fan of Huskies, although im going walking with wolves in a couple of weeks :) |

knobber Jobbler
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
46
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Posted - 2012.03.03 13:03:00 -
[890] - Quote
Mittani, you've lost my vote. Taking advantage of remedial people on public radio is shameful. |
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
279
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Posted - 2012.03.03 13:42:00 -
[891] - Quote
Elson Tamar wrote:Actually i just realised I dont need to vote for him as he will be in anyway, doh as he has enough votes before starting out to get in and on the final 7 seats, I may as well vote for someone else who also represents me!
Still like the dog though, big fan of Huskies, although im going walking with wolves in a couple of weeks :)
Hey hey, I saw this episode of Simpsons, we all skip voting for Mittani and Riverini gets in because we're all hung over (and still drunk) at the celebration party.
Lets not and say we did, eh? |

Oroan
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.03.04 18:23:00 -
[892] - Quote
When does the voting start btw?? |

Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
40
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 18:31:00 -
[893] - Quote
this is one defenetly not getting my vote |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
213
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 18:37:00 -
[894] - Quote
Andrea Roche wrote:this is one defenetly not getting my vote
You already said that with your other NPC corp alt. |

Nic Huston
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 20:31:00 -
[895] - Quote
I hate to get personal - but as mentioned by a couple of people in this topc, you can have my vote if you shave off that ridiculous tuft of hair on your chin. Do we have a deal? |

Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
40
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 21:11:00 -
[896] - Quote
Johnny Marzetti wrote:Andrea Roche wrote:this is one defenetly not getting my vote You already said that with your other NPC corp alt.
yeah thats what you will do. Thats why i didnt . Only a goon can play that idiot game |

Tehg Rhind
Atlantic Innovations
0
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Posted - 2012.03.04 22:03:00 -
[897] - Quote
I'm actually pretty impressed with how the CSM went last year, but wanted to ask a question on the T2 BPO thing.
Do you really think they are even that relevant to industry? I mean, yes, they price out invention in large ships (command ships, recons, and most HACs) but they don't significantly affect module invention as the demand so massively outstrips the quantity the BPO owners can supply.
In terms of unfair profitability the payoff times on these is usually around 7 years these days, so they really aren't that profitable. But they do supply an investment opportunity for people that have ungodly amounts of ISK. They also supply the single most valuable items in game, which is kind of neat. A sleipnir BPO recently sold for something like 230 Billion ISK.
And its not like there aren't high end invention opportunities available in game. Jump Freighters, T2 BSs, and T2 Siege/Triage modules come to mind. And if they add more T2 ships this will only be more true.
It would just make me kind of sad to see these items disappear. I don't think the BPO lottery was a good idea, but the main damage is already done and only diminishes over time as new items appear, and frankly you won't find many industrialists that really feel these items affect their game play.
Even as someone who would never invest in one because they are so unprofitable I appreciate their existence for the uniqueness they represent. Removing them would be like when the French killed all the Unicorns, something we all feel bad about today. SUPPORT BIODIVERSITY IN THE MARKETS. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5601
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 22:16:00 -
[898] - Quote
Tehg Rhind wrote:I'm actually pretty impressed with how the CSM went last year, but wanted to ask a question on the T2 BPO thing.
Do you really think they are even that relevant to industry? I mean, yes, they price out invention in large ships (command ships, recons, and most HACs) but they don't significantly affect module invention as the demand so massively outstrips the quantity the BPO owners can supply.
In terms of unfair profitability the payoff times on these is usually around 7 years these days, so they really aren't that profitable. But they do supply an investment opportunity for people that have ungodly amounts of ISK. They also supply the single most valuable items in game, which is kind of neat. A sleipnir BPO recently sold for something like 230 Billion ISK.
And its not like there aren't high end invention opportunities available in game. Jump Freighters, T2 BSs, and T2 Siege/Triage modules come to mind. And if they add more T2 ships this will only be more true.
It would just make me kind of sad to see these items disappear. I don't think the BPO lottery was a good idea, but the main damage is already done and only diminishes over time as new items appear, and frankly you won't find many industrialists that really feel these items affect their game play.
Even as someone who would never invest in one because they are so unprofitable I appreciate their existence for the uniqueness they represent. Removing them would be like when the French killed all the Unicorns, something we all feel bad about today. SUPPORT BIODIVERSITY IN THE MARKETS.
Edit: Oh yeah, one other issue I was curious about. High Sec incursions seem to be a really big issue in terms of profitability and lack of risk.
Do you think that they are a significant problem and do you support their removal?
Removal of high-sec incursions, absolutely not. They're great content. Tweaking the payouts such that there's a better balance on the risk continuum from null/low/high, yes. That's been discussed at length in my Chairman's thread, in my sig.
Re: T2 BPOs, I actually just brought this up this weekend; I've asked for a little more regulatory clarity on T2 BPOs. I'm not a fan of them, but every election season there's howls for either their removal, conversion to bpcs, or whatever. CCP hasn't offered a formal statement in a post in S&I about what their plans - or lack thereof - are for T2 BPOs, and I'd like to see it clarified, in public, so investors and holders have more certainty about them. IE, if T2 BPOs are a safe investment forever, we should hear about it, so potential buyers and sellers aren't worried about the regulatory risk of having them wiped out.
I don't particularly /like/ T2 bpos, but the environment of uncertainty isn't good for anyone, bpo holders or anti-bpo holders.
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3106
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Posted - 2012.03.04 22:25:00 -
[899] - Quote
The best T2 BPO nerf would be a change in the focus on material cost for T2 production. The ME advantage of producing from a BPO is the big advantage of the T2 BPO holder. In short: you can boost invention by nerfing Technetium
That said, the fact that margins on SKUs like HICs, for which no BPOs exist, aren't noticeably different from HACs, indicates that the greatest competition inventors face is not BPO holders, but other inventors. (Barring low-volume items which, by definition, are less relevent.) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Jitacaldari
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.04 22:30:00 -
[900] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:
I don't particularly /like/ T2 bpos, but the environment of uncertainty isn't good for anyone, bpo holders or anti-bpo holders.
If an insufferable clown like this guy didn't exist I'd have to invent him just to motivate players to vote so children like him would not be identified as the "typical" EVE player.
Time we all realized the dumbing down of a complex space sandbox game to accommodate those who actually seem better fit for a playground sandbox is not good for a game thinking adults can enjoy.
Would love to see a demographic breakdown of the high school dropouts and unemployed slackers that make up this guys voting support. The bottom of the barrel has great power when no one else bothers to vote. |
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Tehg Rhind
Atlantic Innovations
0
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Posted - 2012.03.05 00:27:00 -
[901] - Quote
Wow that was remarkably incomprehensible. It looks like you actually put effort into making sure it couldn't be deciphered. But the jokes on you, I broke your code and figured out the secrets you wished to hide, and will reveal them here:
"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"
A crummy commercial? Not cool man. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5602
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 02:17:00 -
[902] - Quote
Jitacaldari wrote:The Mittani wrote:
I don't particularly /like/ T2 bpos, but the environment of uncertainty isn't good for anyone, bpo holders or anti-bpo holders.
If an insufferable clown like this guy didn't exist I'd have to invent him just to motivate players to vote so children like him would not be identified as the "typical" EVE player. Time we all realized the dumbing down of a complex space sandbox game to accommodate those who actually seem better fit for a playground sandbox is not good for a game thinking adults can enjoy. Would love to see a demographic breakdown of the high school dropouts and unemployed slackers that make up this guys voting support. The bottom of the barrel has great power when no one else bothers to vote.
oh no another forum alt saying mean things about me, this will truly ruin my campaign The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
216
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 02:52:00 -
[903] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:oh no another forum alt saying mean things about me, this will truly ruin my campaign Yeah, this and the weight of 1000 other forum alts. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
220
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 03:57:00 -
[904] - Quote
Andrea Roche wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Andrea Roche wrote:this is one defenetly not getting my vote You already said that with your other NPC corp alt. yeah thats what you will do. Thats why i didnt  . Only a goon can play that idiot game
Actually it's open to anyone who isn't posting with an NPC corp alt. |

Tyrone Cashmoney
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2012.03.05 04:05:00 -
[905] - Quote
Andrea Roche wrote:yeah thats what you will do. Thats why i didnt  . Only a goon can play that idiot game You're pretty good at the idiot game. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3109
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Posted - 2012.03.05 07:34:00 -
[906] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Jitacaldari wrote:The Mittani wrote:
I don't particularly /like/ T2 bpos, but the environment of uncertainty isn't good for anyone, bpo holders or anti-bpo holders.
If an insufferable clown like this guy didn't exist I'd have to invent him just to motivate players to vote so children like him would not be identified as the "typical" EVE player. Time we all realized the dumbing down of a complex space sandbox game to accommodate those who actually seem better fit for a playground sandbox is not good for a game thinking adults can enjoy. Would love to see a demographic breakdown of the high school dropouts and unemployed slackers that make up this guys voting support. The bottom of the barrel has great power when no one else bothers to vote. oh no another forum alt of a hurtbutte supercap owner saying mean things about me, this will truly ruin my campaign
fyp
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1765
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 09:25:00 -
[907] - Quote
People still mad about supercap nerfs are my favorite thing about Eve. Hopefully they will soon be replaced with people mad about titan tracking getting fixed. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
2
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Posted - 2012.03.05 11:06:00 -
[908] - Quote
Quite bold this Mittani fellow, I like it.
Sadly he isnt a carebear. Sry for that.  |

Giruvagen
Southern Cross Trilogy Flying Dangerous
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 12:32:00 -
[909] - Quote
Mittens,
Apologies first of all if I've glanced over previous discussion in this thread or the chairman's thread.
As DUST 514 is slowly becoming a reality, what is your stance, concerns and feelings on the game itself, how it is progressing, and the ultimate issue of how it is going to integrate into EVE-O itself?
Thanks for your time. |

Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
149
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 12:35:00 -
[910] - Quote
Giruvagen wrote:Mittens,
Apologies first of all if I've glanced over previous discussion in this thread or the chairman's thread.
As DUST 514 is slowly becoming a reality, what is your stance, concerns and feelings on the game itself, how it is progressing, and the ultimate issue of how it is going to integrate into EVE-O itself?
Thanks for your time. This question was asked during his radio debate with Riverini. If i remember correctly the basic stance was - we have to wait and see the game. For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
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Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
795
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Posted - 2012.03.05 13:15:00 -
[911] - Quote
Giruvagen wrote:Mittens,
Apologies first of all if I've glanced over previous discussion in this thread or the chairman's thread.
As DUST 514 is slowly becoming a reality, what is your stance, concerns and feelings on the game itself, how it is progressing, and the ultimate issue of how it is going to integrate into EVE-O itself?
Thanks for your time.
The CSM knows nothing about dust that you don't already know. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3112
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 13:59:00 -
[912] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:People still mad about supercap nerfs are my favorite thing about Eve. Hopefully they will soon be replaced with people mad about titan tracking getting fixed.
Well I for one am sure that the luminaries of PL, NCdot And RDN will have learned their lesson from the previous supercarrier rebalance, and will accept the necessary changes with calm good grace and provide dignified, constructive comment. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3112
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 14:04:00 -
[913] - Quote
(ahahaha they'll all baww like a babby with a hornet in his dapiers and threaten to unsub their eleventy-seven accounts each) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
24
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Posted - 2012.03.05 14:17:00 -
[914] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:(ahahaha they'll all baww like a babby with a hornet in his dapiers and threaten to unsub their eleventy-seven accounts each)
Or more likely, they'll adapt and you'll find something new to whine about for CCP to fix. |

Groperson
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 16:42:00 -
[915] - Quote
Dez Affinity wrote:Malcanis wrote:(ahahaha they'll all baww like a babby with a hornet in his dapiers and threaten to unsub their eleventy-seven accounts each) Or more likely, they'll adapt and you'll find something new to whine about for CCP to fix. Well, PL should be fine, but raiden are getting skullf*cked. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3114
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 16:56:00 -
[916] - Quote
Dez Affinity wrote:Malcanis wrote:(ahahaha they'll all baww like a babby with a hornet in his dapiers and threaten to unsub their eleventy-seven accounts each) Or more likely, they'll adapt and you'll find something new to whine about for CCP to fix.
Well I guess we'll find out about that soon enough
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
229
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 17:22:00 -
[917] - Quote
Hail Mittani our Supreme Leader Creator of the World, Savior of the Human Race, and the Most honest, kindhearted, fair, intelligent, caring, powerful, holy, honourable, mighty, glorious person in history, the infinitely charismatic champion of human rights.
ALL HAIL CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |

D Derp
xXxSePhIrOtHSSJ420xXx W33D4LYFE Fanclub
7
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Posted - 2012.03.05 18:02:00 -
[918] - Quote
Trainwreck McGee wrote:Hail Mittani our Supreme Leader Creator of the World, Savior of the Human Race, and the Most honest, kindhearted, fair, intelligent, caring, powerful, holy, honourable, mighty, glorious person in history, the infinitely charismatic champion of human rights.
ALL HAIL You forgot the time he talked to a girl. Otherwise, you hit the nail on the head.
HAIL |

Highauger's animated corpse
Stargate SG-1 Fatal Ascension
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 18:41:00 -
[919] - Quote
First it was Crucible
Now he wants more
Mitanni for CSM chair 2012 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
217
|
Posted - 2012.03.05 21:53:00 -
[920] - Quote
Groperson wrote:Well, PL should be fine, but raiden are getting skullf*cked. Will this be one of those "I was there" moments.
As in "I was there at the first Raiden. titan blob after the nerf"
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
164
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Posted - 2012.03.06 00:14:00 -
[921] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Groperson wrote:Well, PL should be fine, but raiden are getting skullf*cked. Will this be one of those "I was there" moments. As in "I was there at the first Raiden. titan blob after the nerf" I want to be there, heck I just may log in just for that.
You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.03.06 01:03:00 -
[922] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Groperson wrote:Well, PL should be fine, but raiden are getting skullf*cked. Will this be one of those "I was there" moments. As in "I was there at the first Raiden. titan blob after the nerf" I want to be there, heck I just may log in just for that. As long as it occurs before the Mittani has an even bigger blob than they do, since it would be pretty blas+¬ afterwards.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Thermoss Devlin
Wrath Bringers
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 09:07:00 -
[923] - Quote
You have my sword. Drive it into the infedels! |

Avasa Siuu
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
3
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 14:30:00 -
[924] - Quote
You have FAs special snowflakes vote.
Represent all special snowflakes well mittens.
|

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
225
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 20:52:00 -
[925] - Quote
Let us fly in space and leave our pants behind, O King!
|

Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 21:12:00 -
[926] - Quote
pantydropping in spaaaaaaaaaace~
vote The Mittani 2012 |

Tehg Rhind
Atlantic Innovations
4
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 22:40:00 -
[927] - Quote
Got a question for you.
Last year saw some significant mismanagement of resources on CCPs part that lead to the Incarna Summer of Rage. The CSM maintained a clear voice opposing this and avoided a shrill demeanor in it's communication. Both of these helped solidify the value of the CSM as a sounding board, which should increase the CSMs value. However, some of the problems that lead to this were fundamentally rooted in the managing of CCP as a business, which ultimately is outside the scope of the CSMs realm. Where do you see that line of division between the corporate management of CCP and the areas involving development that is the purview of the CSM?
A quick followup as well. The buy-in that was earned through measured and accurate response would obviously be harmed if the CSM operated as a Chicken Little, crying fowl at innapropriate times or in innapropriate manners. In that same vein, is it ever in the CSMs advantage to try and mitigate unnecessary or unwarranted bitching by the player community, to operate as a salve to avoid mass unsubs and the like, and do you think it helps the CSMs buy-in to do so? Failheap Challenge is a good example of the kind of over-reacting playerbase I'm talking about. |

LesbianCharizard
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 23:24:00 -
[928] - Quote
My CEO \o/ |

RDevz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 00:12:00 -
[929] - Quote
Remember folks, vote early, and vote often. |

Dramaticus
Goonswarm Federation
54
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 00:36:00 -
[930] - Quote
yes we can
again |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2556
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 00:53:00 -
[931] - Quote
Vote here: http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=438
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Tetragammatron Prime
Pink Sockers
22
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 00:55:00 -
[932] - Quote
or here http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=454 |

Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 01:12:00 -
[933] - Quote
Make Mine Mittani |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2556
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 01:38:00 -
[934] - Quote
Tetragammatron Prime wrote: this idiot is spamming riverini links do not be fooled |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5652
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 07:56:00 -
[935] - Quote
So far, so good. We've hit the polls like a sledgehammer already - keep it up. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
53
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 08:02:00 -
[936] - Quote
A vote for The Mittani is a vote for a productive CSM7 Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460 |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3123
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 10:35:00 -
[937] - Quote
Good luck mittens Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

wowjemd
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 10:48:00 -
[938] - Quote
hello the The Mittani its daley the one who did post on the goonswarm forums post in the war room dear The Mittani please read that was me you have got my vote |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
68
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 11:05:00 -
[939] - Quote
Voting for Hans,but wishing you good luck,Mittani. o7 |

Elijah Bry'an Baudoin
EVE Exchange
5
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 11:13:00 -
[940] - Quote
King of Space,
Myself and my schizophrenia inducing collection of Alts appreciate your good work so far, but ask simply:
How many ISK per vote are we talking here? |
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Johan Krieger
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
100
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 14:40:00 -
[941] - Quote
Elijah Bry'an Baudoin wrote:King of Space,
Myself and my schizophrenia inducing collection of Alts appreciate your good work so far, but ask simply:
How many ISK per vote are we talking here?
7. You get 7 ISK per vote. |

Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
49
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 14:48:00 -
[942] - Quote
Now that the hoopla of CSM7 campaigning is over IGÇÖd like to congratulate you on another term as Chair in all seriousness. I really do think you deserve it and that the issues you focus on are the important ones. It was a tough one this time but I think people polarised nicely in the end.
Again, thank you for all your hard work in CSM6 and I wish you all the best.
He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee ~Friedrich Nietzsche |

Dervinus
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
38
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 14:52:00 -
[943] - Quote
wowjemd wrote:hello the The Mittani its daley the one who did post on the goonswarm forums post in the war room dear The Mittani please read that was me you have got my vote
With Daley's vote in hand, there is no way Mittens cant win THE DOVITANI FOR CSM |

smljdcgirggsgmxghrm
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 15:01:00 -
[944] - Quote
Our fearless leader |

Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 15:24:00 -
[945] - Quote
My CEO~ EVE is dead |

Drechlas
Shattered Star Exiles SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 15:40:00 -
[946] - Quote
I was kind of 'meh' on the voting until I took a spam mail of Trebor Daehdoow to the knee
Mittens you get 4 votes of me |

Red Bluesteel
State War Academy Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 17:11:00 -
[947] - Quote
Voting for The Mittani / Goons / or UAxDeath / Legion is like voting for Cancer, you never get rid of it. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
859
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 17:14:00 -
[948] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Our work is not yet done.
I think you are wrong on that one.
Mr Epeen 
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |

Xenuria
Peace Million Foundation Shadow of xXDEATHXx
359
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 19:59:00 -
[949] - Quote
Red Bluesteel wrote:Voting for The Mittani / Goons / or UAxDeath / Legion is like voting for Cancer, you never get rid of it. Vote Xenuria! Vote Xenuria CSM7 |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
167
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 21:33:00 -
[950] - Quote
All hail the Mittani, king of space, and CSM chairman for life. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
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Bliswonowon
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
12
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 22:58:00 -
[951] - Quote
Elijah Bry'an Baudoin wrote:King of Space,
Myself and my schizophrenia inducing collection of Alts appreciate your good work so far, but ask simply:
How many ISK per vote are we talking here?
The Mittani, King of Space, does not have time for such mundane transactions. However, here's a personal offer from me. If you pledge to vote for The Mittani, I offer to sponsor you as a trial member of my corp (the oldest and most respected membercorp in Goonswarm), and I'll pay half of the security deposit myself.
If interested, send evemail to this character. |

Zirse
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
278
|
Posted - 2012.03.08 01:36:00 -
[952] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uYCmhbZ2AU |

Susie Chow
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
|
Posted - 2012.03.08 12:15:00 -
[953] - Quote
Bliswonowon wrote:Elijah Bry'an Baudoin wrote:King of Space,
Myself and my schizophrenia inducing collection of Alts appreciate your good work so far, but ask simply:
How many ISK per vote are we talking here? The Mittani, King of Space, does not have time for such mundane transactions. However, here's a personal offer from me. If you pledge to vote for The Mittani, I offer to sponsor you as a trial member of my corp (the oldest and most respected membercorp in Goonswarm), and I'll pay half of the security deposit myself. If interested, send evemail to this character.
Wow, thank you for that. I got in to Goonswarm for 50% off my deposit and all I had to do was screenshot my vote for The Mittani! |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
241
|
Posted - 2012.03.08 13:41:00 -
[954] - Quote
Argh! I knew I should have waited until the election. I had to pay full price! Still, it was worth it, as I've made more than triple back with the great ores and ratting available to me now. Don't miss out on this, folks!
|

Zirse
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
278
|
Posted - 2012.03.08 21:05:00 -
[955] - Quote
I found this on the second page. A travesty I tell you. |

Zirse
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
278
|
Posted - 2012.03.09 03:18:00 -
[956] - Quote
Twice rescued from the deeps. |

Tess La'Coil
Lightbringer's Sanctuary BLACK-MARK
14
|
Posted - 2012.03.09 12:01:00 -
[957] - Quote
Mittens for president. Yes, in fact it does make me look smarter. |

Mintrolio
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
398
|
Posted - 2012.03.09 12:26:00 -
[958] - Quote
CONFRIMIGN - HES WORK MAY ONLY BE BEGINIGN !
MITANI WE NEEDIGN YOU MINTROLIO FUR CSM7 |

Rain Tian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
|
Posted - 2012.03.09 17:14:00 -
[959] - Quote
Space king for life! |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5706
|
Posted - 2012.03.10 02:53:00 -
[960] - Quote
So far, so good. 10k or bust. That mandate is almost within reach. The Mittani, CSM7: Vote Here - One EVE. One Vote. One Chairman
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
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Vampy bat
Prussia Group Meracom
1
|
Posted - 2012.03.10 03:08:00 -
[961] - Quote
I just voted for him myself, which is weird considering I'm the proverbial carebear who hasn't been out of high sec for over a year now. But I must say after deciding to vote for the CSM for the first time and finally being bothered to actually read and search for what the candidates stood for, at least for me this was one of only 2 candidates that made sense to me. And I know most people in my corp that are going to vote, will be voting Mittani as well.
Of course no one likes being scammed or ganked in high sec but ultimately the CSM is about game features and mechanics and not about ingame player behavior. And though I find it disturbing, Mittani's views on the direction the game should take are the closest there is to how I would like the game to be like.
There is however one point I completely disagree with the Mittani. Time and again, he has claimed that if you want to roleplay, Eve is the worst game ever to do that. I don't really care as I don't do roleplay, at least not in the traditional sense. But I would argue that the CSM elections are the pinnacle of roleplay, even if it doesn't fit entirely or nicely with the game cannon. But if these campaigns, the whine, drama, tears, debates and twists and who knows what else are not fantastic roleplay, I don't know what they are.
There, I did it. Flame away. |

Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
Liberty Trident
3
|
Posted - 2012.03.10 04:33:00 -
[962] - Quote
Red Bluesteel wrote:Voting for The Mittani / Goons / or UAxDeath / Legion is like voting for Cancer, you never get rid of it.
I know, right? My gay friend warned me cancer is a water sign and I'm a leo and things would never work out. But man, that's one clingy biatch I got, and now I just can't get rid of her. She's loco!!
Wait, what!? |

Algia Knightstorm
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
11
|
Posted - 2012.03.10 10:09:00 -
[963] - Quote
I'm Commander Shepard and The Mittani is my favorite store on the Citadel. |

Solinuas
Beyond Evil and Good
84
|
Posted - 2012.03.10 18:34:00 -
[964] - Quote
I voted for mittani because i am convinced he is secretly a furry! |

indiana bones
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
36
|
Posted - 2012.03.10 20:55:00 -
[965] - Quote
+4 votes here from a 2003 bittervet.
Never really had any dealings with mittens or the goons, but got my votes because
a) think he's doing a good job b) is politically very competent c) is not someone who CCP can play 'puppet on a string' with |

RDevz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
|
Posted - 2012.03.10 22:43:00 -
[966] - Quote
~my votes~ for ~my ceo~ |

Ayla Hanaya
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 10:00:00 -
[967] - Quote
Confirming that Space King Mittens got my vote, bring more murder, scamming, and griefing to EVE, also, more better fights! |

Elijah Bry'an Baudoin
EVE Exchange
5
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 11:15:00 -
[968] - Quote
Bliswonowon wrote:Elijah Bry'an Baudoin wrote:King of Space,
Myself and my schizophrenia inducing collection of Alts appreciate your good work so far, but ask simply:
How many ISK per vote are we talking here? The Mittani, King of Space, does not have time for such mundane transactions. However, here's a personal offer from me. If you pledge to vote for The Mittani, I offer to sponsor you as a trial member of my corp (the oldest and most respected membercorp in Goonswarm), and I'll pay half of the security deposit myself. If interested, send evemail to this character. Nah, sounds like a fair deal. Just flick me 1/2 the security deposit now and I'll put it forward with my Application.
The Mittani wrote:So far, so good. 10k or bust. That mandate is almost within reach. What are you planning on busting?
|

Poetic Stanziel
Major Kong Freight
764
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 17:04:00 -
[969] - Quote
Goonswarm Inspirational Poster
http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2012/03/goonswarm-friend-to-all.html The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |

Amaterrassy
Desperate Venture Company Darkspawn.
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 17:32:00 -
[970] - Quote
Deserved my total support, because as he said: "I have balls, and I have enemies. IGÇÖm not afraid to name them." That is the main thing for a good candidate as I think, because he won't fear to fight with CCP for all people playing. |
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Takashi Kaeda
Perkone Caldari State
17
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 18:07:00 -
[971] - Quote
Even among eve blogs yours is pretty bad mate. |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
1006
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 19:20:00 -
[972] - Quote
Sara XIII wrote:Egort Pareleru wrote:DARIUS III has done more for the Eve community and the individual Eve players. I say...VOTE FOR DARIUS III for CSM 7 This interests me. Show me on a Sov Map where I might find this "Darius III" and you'll have my votes. 
Can I direct you to BWF-ZZ Solar System where you will find BWF-ZZ V Darius III for CSM 7 station on the Orbital bodies tab. It may not properly display until tomorrow after down time, but that is where you find me on the sov map.
CCP and even the CSM have a lot of hardworking men and women who are very intelligent, working on making New Eden a better place-it is CCP management that I fear the most. D3 for CSM7 Direct link-á http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=480 |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
269
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 20:17:00 -
[973] - Quote
Poetic Stanziel wrote:The Mittani wrote:So far, so good. 10k or bust. That mandate is almost within reach. What happens if you don't reach 10K? Public temper tantrum? What?
We just really like round numbers.
|

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5716
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 22:32:00 -
[974] - Quote
Poetic Stanziel wrote:The Mittani wrote:So far, so good. 10k or bust. That mandate is almost within reach. What happens if you don't reach 10K? Public temper tantrum? What?
I imagine that I'll shrug and move on. The Mittani, CSM7: Vote Here - One EVE. One Vote. One Chairman
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Poetic Stanziel
Major Kong Freight
765
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 22:39:00 -
[975] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:The Mittani wrote:So far, so good. 10k or bust. That mandate is almost within reach. What happens if you don't reach 10K? Public temper tantrum? What? I imagine that I'd shrug and move on. Ah. So it's not 10k or bust, it is 10k or shrug.
::disappointed::
The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |

Oreb Wing
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
24
|
Posted - 2012.03.11 22:45:00 -
[976] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:The Mittani wrote:So far, so good. 10k or bust. That mandate is almost within reach. What happens if you don't reach 10K? Public temper tantrum? What? I imagine that I'd shrug and move on.
The legendary Trapezius muscle of The Mitanni!! Atlas who!?
It's a good thing his index finger is just as strong. |

None ofthe Above
117
|
Posted - 2012.03.12 06:18:00 -
[977] - Quote
Amaterrassy wrote:Deserved my total support, because as he said: "I have balls, and ... IGÇÖm not afraid to name them."
Sooo what are the names of The Mittani's balls? Or do we really not want to know?
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |

Kno Bodeesbitch
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
|
Posted - 2012.03.12 21:46:00 -
[978] - Quote
None ofthe Above wrote:Amaterrassy wrote:Deserved my total support, because as he said: "I have balls, and ... IGÇÖm not afraid to name them." Sooo what are the names of The Mittani's balls? Or do we really not want to know?
"Ididn't" and "Dropyet" hard to pronounce...its a dead language |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5726
|
Posted - 2012.03.12 22:40:00 -
[979] - Quote
NPC alts: left with nothing to do but whine about my balls as our movement steamrolls to victory, yet again~ The Mittani, CSM7: Vote Here - One EVE. One Vote. One Chairman
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
564
|
Posted - 2012.03.12 23:15:00 -
[980] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:NPC alts: left with nothing to do but whine about my balls as our movement steamrolls to victory, yet again~
What are you hoping to accomplish with your mandate? By who and by what measure is the number of votes for you officially a mandate? What was not able to be done/accomplished during CSM 6 because you did not have said mandate?
And yes, I currently am in a NPC corp due to promoting an event, so what. v0v
|
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None ofthe Above
119
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 07:44:00 -
[981] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:NPC alts: left with nothing to do but whine about my balls as our movement steamrolls to victory, yet again~
The Office of the Chairman: A Threat to Constituent Issues
Actually I've been a busy little NPC corp beaver, how about you?
You've not campaigned much at all, I guess you've got it all wrapped up? Or spending all your time flogging your serfs for more votes?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=928388#post928388
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2390
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 07:53:00 -
[982] - Quote
None ofthe Above wrote:The Mittani wrote:NPC alts: left with nothing to do but whine about my balls as our movement steamrolls to victory, yet again~
The Office of the Chairman: A Threat to Constituent Issues
Actually I've been a busy little NPC corp beaver, how about you? You've not campaigned much at all, I guess you've got it all wrapped up? Or spending all your time flogging your serfs for more votes? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=928388#post928388
heh, you fell for that troll. are you that dumb? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2390
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 07:55:00 -
[983] - Quote
i mean really his character name is SirMille
do you live under a rock? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 11:26:00 -
[984] - Quote
Andski wrote:i mean really his character name is SirMille
do you live under a rock? Oh wow, that's hilarious. I guess no one know what SKPS is really. I guess we can perpetuate the mystery. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2394
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 11:53:00 -
[985] - Quote
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80374
Mittens, how smug are you right now on a 1-10 scale? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2588
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 13:18:00 -
[986] - Quote
vote wizardry 2012 |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5747
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 13:29:00 -
[987] - Quote
The Mittani: A Goddamned Wizard The Mittani, CSM7: Vote Here - One EVE. One Vote. One Chairman
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
12
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 15:26:00 -
[988] - Quote
Hello could you please state your position on Wis? I ask because so many of your alliance members seem to be interested in Wis.
If you are against it could you explain why you believe that after CCP has sunk millions of dollars into it, that they would suddenly drop it and not just work on it behind the CSM's back. Covering it with the trade secrets rules so if the CSM found out it would be covered by the Non-Disclosure Agreement.
Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |

Desiderya
Wolfraam 74
25
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 15:28:00 -
[989] - Quote
'One EVE, One Vote, One Chairman' sounds catchy, but I hope the inspiration didn't came from history class.
edit: Might just be me, on account of being rather familiar with history, but the choice of words instantly reminded me of that. It's literally one of the most recognizable propaganda phrases from that time. |

None ofthe Above
120
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 15:48:00 -
[990] - Quote
Andski wrote:None ofthe Above wrote:The Mittani wrote:NPC alts: left with nothing to do but whine about my balls as our movement steamrolls to victory, yet again~
The Office of the Chairman: A Threat to Constituent Issues
Actually I've been a busy little NPC corp beaver, how about you? You've not campaigned much at all, I guess you've got it all wrapped up? Or spending all your time flogging your serfs for more votes? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=928388#post928388 heh, you fell for that troll. are you that dumb?
Yes, yes. I am aware you fine fellows troll your selves in order to discredit anyone that criticizes you, but a pattern is emerging here.
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |
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Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:24:00 -
[991] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:People still mad about supercap nerfs are my favorite thing about Eve. Hopefully they will soon be replaced with people mad about titan tracking getting fixed. Well I for one am sure that the luminaries of PL, NCdot And RDN will have learned their lesson from the previous supercarrier rebalance, and will accept the necessary changes with calm good grace and provide dignified, constructive comment.
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Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 21:09:00 -
[992] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote: If you are against it could you explain why you believe that after CCP has sunk millions of dollars into it, that they would suddenly drop it
I already spent 50 TRILLION DOLLARS on half of a turd! I'll be damned if I'm not going to spend another 50 trillion dollars to get a complete turd!
EVE is dead |

Sidus Sarmiang
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:53:00 -
[993] - Quote
Desiderya wrote:' One EVE, One Vote, One Chairman' sounds catchy, but I hope the inspiration didn't came from history class. edit: Might just be me, on account of being rather familiar with history, but the choice of words instantly reminded me of that. It's literally one of the most recognizable propaganda phrases from that time.
We really follow more of a Stalinist gimmick with Mittani, whereas the gimmick you refer to fits certain alliances composed of a different, European nationality better. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:14:00 -
[994] - Quote
"If you vote for me, you matter to me, and IGÇÖll do what I can to make the game better for you." - The Mittani
Does this include the dead who voted for you in the CSM6 Election?
The Mittani wrote: GÇÿdead votersGÇÖ are appearing in the polls as 5-day reactivation offers from CCP have allowed candidates to harvest the votes of unsubscribed accounts.
Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
299
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 22:36:00 -
[995] - Quote
Desiderya wrote:' One EVE, One Vote, One Chairman' sounds catchy, but I hope the inspiration didn't came from history class. edit: Might just be me, on account of being rather familiar with history, but the choice of words instantly reminded me of that. It's literally one of the most recognizable propaganda phrases from that time.
It came from Queen, actually. Everybody loves Queen.
Edit: Also the "history" you're thinking of is reflected more in the openly admitted real life views of CSM candidate Fon Revedhort. No kidding. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
319
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 22:42:00 -
[996] - Quote
Johnny Marzetti wrote:It came from Queen, actually. Everybody loves Queen.
just gimmegimmegimmegimme Fried Chicken
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever.
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006 |

May Zonday
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 22:50:00 -
[997] - Quote
I have it on good personal knowledge that the Mittani is a handsome man and a space wizard and good at singing vote for mittani down with titans |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
299
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 23:20:00 -
[998] - Quote
Scatim Helicon wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:It came from Queen, actually. Everybody loves Queen. just gimmegimmegimmegimme Fried Chicken
Exactly. Nothing fascist about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwdOX19_ETI
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Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
12
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 23:28:00 -
[999] - Quote
You talk alot about the Sucking Chest Wound's of EVE but so far I have been unable to find a complete list of what you believe them to be. Could you post a list of them in their entirety. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
299
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 23:30:00 -
[1000] - Quote
Pneumothorax From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Sucking chest wound)
Pneumothorax (pl. pneumothoraces) is an abnormal collection of air or gas in the pleural space that separates the lung from the chest wall, and that may interfere with normal breathing.
A primary pneumothorax is one that occurs without an apparent cause and in the absence of significant lung disease, while a secondary pneumothorax occurs in the presence of pre-existing lung pathology. Occasionally, the amount of air in the chest increases markedly when a one-way valve is formed by an area of damaged tissue, leading to a tension pneumothorax. This condition is a medical emergency that can cause steadily worsening oxygen shortage and low blood pressure. Unless reversed by effective treatment, these sequelae can progress and cause death.
Pneumothoraces can be caused by physical trauma to the chest (including blast injury), or as a complication of medical or surgical intervention. Symptoms typically include chest pain and shortness of breath. Diagnosis of a pneumothorax by physical examination alone can be difficult or inconclusive (particularly in smaller pneumothoraces), so a chest X-ray or computed tomography (CT) scan is usually used to confirm its presence.
Small spontaneous pneumothoraces typically resolve without treatment and require only monitoring. This approach may be most appropriate in subjects who have no significant underlying lung disease. In larger pneumothoraces, or when there are marked signs and/or symptoms, the air may be extracted with a syringe or a chest tube connected to a one-way valve system. Occasionally, surgical interventions are required when tube drainage is unsuccessful, or as a preventative measure, if there have been repeated episodes. The surgical treatments usually involve pleurodesis (which induce the layers of pleura to stick together) or pleurectomy (the surgical removal of pleural membranes). |
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Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:38:00 -
[1001] - Quote
Good to see that the members of Goonswarm would rather belittle people than have any question that might show what The Mittani stands for to be answered.
Is this because the only thing The Mittani stands for is to be on the CSM? Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
299
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 23:45:00 -
[1002] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:Good to see that the members of Goonswarm would rather belittle people than have any question that might show what The Mittani stands for to be answered.
Is this because the only thing The Mittani stands for is to be on the CSM?
Sorry, bro, I thought you forgot to post that. I was just trying to help you out.  |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
12
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 23:48:00 -
[1003] - Quote
Sucking Chest Wound's is a phrase of your own CEO. Apparently you don't seem to know this hmmmmm.
And this is why I call you sheep. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
299
|
Posted - 2012.03.13 23:50:00 -
[1004] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:Sucking Chest Wound's is a phrase of your own CEO. Apparently you don't seem to know this hmmmmm.
And this is why I call you sheep.
Hahahaha. Oh my god, just look at you. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
289
|
Posted - 2012.03.14 00:47:00 -
[1005] - Quote
Desiderya wrote:' One EVE, One Vote, One Chairman' sounds catchy, but I hope the inspiration didn't came from history class. edit: Might just be me, on account of being rather familiar with history, but the choice of words instantly reminded me of that. It's literally one of the most recognizable propaganda phrases from that time.
I am absolutely certain it came from that. I am also absolutely certain it was chosen ironically, since one of the common refrains from pubbies of yesteryear was that Goons are members of the German Nationalsozialismus party. We're not. We're Soccer Hooligans.
OI OI OI VOTE MITTANI OI OI OI |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
289
|
Posted - 2012.03.14 00:49:00 -
[1006] - Quote
Johnny Marzetti wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Sucking Chest Wound's is a phrase of your own CEO. Apparently you don't seem to know this hmmmmm.
And this is why I call you sheep. Hahahaha. Oh my god, just look at you.
Hey, he's improving, he managed to post without copy-pasting Wikipedia. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2707
|
Posted - 2012.03.14 01:06:00 -
[1007] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:Hello could you please state your position on Wis? I ask because so many of your alliance members seem to be interested in Wis
ahahahahaha
yeah totally, Goons love walking in stations "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
12
|
Posted - 2012.03.14 03:28:00 -
[1008] - Quote
Andski wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Hello could you please state your position on Wis? I ask because so many of your alliance members seem to be interested in Wis ahahahahaha yeah totally, Goons love walking in stations
Apparently so. Members of Goonswarm seem to continue asking questions on the subject of Wis. Maybe you guys need a Goonsheep bar to hang out in for validation? Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5878
|
Posted - 2012.03.14 03:47:00 -
[1009] - Quote
'goonsheep' that's pretty witty, gg The Mittani, CSM7: Vote Here - One EVE. One Vote. One Chairman
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1853
|
Posted - 2012.03.14 05:17:00 -
[1010] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:'goonsheep' that's pretty witty, gg
I also liked 'Mittguidotanni' that I was seeing a lot of earlier.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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Sayyadina Drain
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.14 05:39:00 -
[1011] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:Andski wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Hello could you please state your position on Wis? I ask because so many of your alliance members seem to be interested in Wis ahahahahaha yeah totally, Goons love walking in stations Apparently so. Members of Goonswarm seem to continue asking questions on the subject of Wis. Maybe you guys need a Goonsheep bar to hang out in for validation?
Thanks, now I can't stop thinking about how awesome that bar would be... |

Elijah Bry'an Baudoin
EVE Exchange
5
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Posted - 2012.03.14 11:16:00 -
[1012] - Quote
Goonsheep huh?
Something to use and abuse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5yryKs-GLc
My kids are beyond this now so feel free to destroy a children's classic. |

Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
13
|
Posted - 2012.03.14 11:24:00 -
[1013] - Quote
Elijah Bry'an Baudoin wrote:
I would like to thank you on behalf of the Goonsheep, for providing them with appropriate reading material. I know some of them do struggle with the words in this forum. Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |

Bliswonowon
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
15
|
Posted - 2012.03.16 16:33:00 -
[1014] - Quote
A vote for Mittens is a vote for sanity in game design.
Vote now! |

Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
23
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Posted - 2012.03.17 05:15:00 -
[1015] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:I view a vote for a CSM as a contract between myself and the CSM. You're delusional. Democracy is a farce, and at the end of the day, your one vote, or your 10 votes won't make any difference. You weren't going to vote for the Mittani anyway. You're just here to stir up crap.
Princess Bride wrote:However, I'd rather vote for someone who is a decent human being to represent me in Iceland. Great, you're done then. Stop posting to this thread. Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
234
|
Posted - 2012.03.17 07:35:00 -
[1016] - Quote
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Princess Bride wrote:I view a vote for a CSM as a contract between myself and the CSM. You're delusional. Democracy is a farce, and at the end of the day, your one vote, or your 10 votes won't make any difference. You weren't going to vote for the Mittani anyway. You're just here to stir up crap. Ah, just like that contract for a Navy Raven. With a raven in it.
Or the T2 fitted and rigged hulk that somehow misplaced the hulk. Or has the hulk in nullsec.
Or the Charon sale with a misclick that now has a Carbon.
Or the Republic Fleet Firetail for 1m, except the first two are done and the third is 1 bil. Opps, too many zeros.
You voted for Darius? I hear the has an amazing anti-goon platform and will EVEN give plex for votes. Accept contract. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Tector
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
45
|
Posted - 2012.03.17 21:19:00 -
[1017] - Quote
I am terrified of what will happen when Mynas Atoch and Endie, noted Scotsmen, realize they are in an alliance filled with sheep. |

Sidus Sarmiang
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
47
|
Posted - 2012.03.17 21:39:00 -
[1018] - Quote
Tector wrote:I am terrified of what will happen when Mynas Atoch and Endie, noted Scotsmen, realize they are in an alliance filled with sheep.
I'm kind of excited to find out. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6207
|
Posted - 2012.03.20 04:53:00 -
[1019] - Quote
Icelandic victory lap is go in ~24 hours~ The Mittani, CSM7: Vote Here - One EVE. One Vote. One Chairman
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
117
|
Posted - 2012.03.20 06:29:00 -
[1020] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Icelandic victory lap is go in ~24 hours~
Remember, your victory would mean nothing without The Clawtani's backing, I hope you remember to recognize his service to the cause. He snaps his regards at you sir. |
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The Mittami
GoonsWaffle
1
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Posted - 2012.03.21 01:20:00 -
[1021] - Quote
I was just reading through the forum here and came up with a question I was hoping the Real Mittens would kindly answer.
I know this won't affect the outcome at this point, and even I have already voted for Mittens with each of my accounts and spent a fair bit of time in Jita just making sure the name was fresh in everyone's mind for no other reason than it was fun.
What I was wondering was about the reason CCP is listening more to CSM now than they had before. How much of that would Mittens honestly attribute to his brand of leadership and how much of that would have happened regardless of who was elected? CCP screwed up last year. Badly. Was Alexander successful in increasing the relevance of CSM or was he a pawn used by CCP to smooth over public relations by giving him that illusion. Surely their priority must be whatever keeps them in business rather than what a bunch of whiny players want. I am not referring to Mittens there, but vocal constituents as opposed to the (probably) 250,000 plus players who play the game mostly content and not likely to cancel regardless of most minor changes. |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1283
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Posted - 2012.03.21 01:42:00 -
[1022] - Quote
Well played sir!
Congrats at what should be a record victory. Despite my personal views on how Eve might be better you have done a record job at getting folks interested in the CSM. In addition I know you'll continue to help keep CCP engaged.
Great election! Congrats!
Issler |

Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
40
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Posted - 2012.03.21 07:59:00 -
[1023] - Quote
The Mittami wrote:I was just reading through the forum here and came up with a question I was hoping the Real Mittens would kindly answer.
I know this won't affect the outcome at this point, and even I have already voted for Mittens with each of my accounts and spent a fair bit of time in Jita just making sure the name was fresh in everyone's mind for no other reason than it was fun.
What I was wondering was about the reason CCP is listening more to CSM now than they had before. How much of that would Mittens honestly attribute to his brand of leadership and how much of that would have happened regardless of who was elected? CCP screwed up last year. Badly. Was Alexander successful in increasing the relevance of CSM or was he a pawn used by CCP to smooth over public relations by giving him that illusion. Surely their priority must be whatever keeps them in business rather than what a bunch of whiny players want. I am not referring to Mittens there, but vocal constituents as opposed to the (probably) 250,000 plus players who play the game mostly content and not likely to cancel regardless of most minor changes.
Given that EVE lost 1 in 12 of it's subscriptions over a few weeks, I'd say that the evidence supports the notion that even people who don't say much on the forums are interested in how EVE will progress in the future, and the events of the last year or so have only increased the percentage of "politicised" players. Certainly there are a number of players in INIT who never used to give a rats ass about CCP or what was going on, and now they definitely do, and I have no reason to think we're unique in that. |

Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
186
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 08:14:00 -
[1024] - Quote
Why the **** this guy is still not renamed?
My character was renamed by GM's for "impersonation" when its name was similar to the already existing and active/known eve player?
im gonna go and complain and demand my name back. Damn CCP! For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |

knobber Jobbler
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
65
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 11:18:00 -
[1025] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Icelandic victory lap is go in ~24 hours~
Is that like the Isle of Man TT race except round Iceland with a bottle schnapps riding a golf buggy? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
247
|
Posted - 2012.03.22 05:09:00 -
[1026] - Quote
knobber Jobbler wrote:The Mittani wrote:Icelandic victory lap is go in ~24 hours~ Is that like the Isle of Man TT race except round Iceland with a bottle schnapps riding a golf buggy? Hm, if by that you mean "apply 1400mm artillery shells to freighter in Jita", sure. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Algia Knightstorm
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
14
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Posted - 2012.03.22 09:37:00 -
[1027] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:The Mittani wrote:Icelandic victory lap is go in ~24 hours~ Is that like the Isle of Man TT race except round Iceland with a bottle schnapps riding a golf buggy? Hm, if by that you mean "apply 1400mm artillery shells to freighter in Jita", sure.
Got an alt ready since I'm dirty rotten criminal scum on my main. Can't wait for the festivities. |

Elijah Bry'an Baudoin
EVE Exchange
6
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Posted - 2012.03.22 09:59:00 -
[1028] - Quote
Algia Knightstorm wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:The Mittani wrote:Icelandic victory lap is go in ~24 hours~ Is that like the Isle of Man TT race except round Iceland with a bottle schnapps riding a golf buggy? Hm, if by that you mean "apply 1400mm artillery shells to freighter in Jita", sure. Got an alt ready since I'm dirty rotten criminal scum on my main. Can't wait for the festivities. Please... make it all burn...
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knobber Jobbler
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
70
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:34:00 -
[1029] - Quote
Algia Knightstorm wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:The Mittani wrote:Icelandic victory lap is go in ~24 hours~ Is that like the Isle of Man TT race except round Iceland with a bottle schnapps riding a golf buggy? Hm, if by that you mean "apply 1400mm artillery shells to freighter in Jita", sure. Got an alt ready since I'm dirty rotten criminal scum on my main. Can't wait for the festivities.
Check! Disco Domi ready to go on the Jita undock.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
252
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 03:25:00 -
[1030] - Quote
knobber Jobbler wrote:Algia Knightstorm wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:The Mittani wrote:Icelandic victory lap is go in ~24 hours~ Is that like the Isle of Man TT race except round Iceland with a bottle schnapps riding a golf buggy? Hm, if by that you mean "apply 1400mm artillery shells to freighter in Jita", sure. Got an alt ready since I'm dirty rotten criminal scum on my main. Can't wait for the festivities. Check! Disco Domi ready to go on the Jita undock. Honestly I want to buy an osprey and remote repair. Heh, heh. (Well I wouldn't be neutral since that would need me to drop corp and I don't have a neutral alt that can use a repping ship.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3385
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:19:00 -
[1031] - Quote
~10,058~ "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
454
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:20:00 -
[1032] - Quote
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Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:20:00 -
[1033] - Quote
Make everything burn. |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
515
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:20:00 -
[1034] - Quote
We have a mandate! |

Beckie DeLey
Brigade of Guards SpaceMonkey's Alliance
31
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:21:00 -
[1035] - Quote
Tornadoes. Jita.
That is all. It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |

Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
172
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:27:00 -
[1036] - Quote
Countdown to complaint threads: ...4...3...2 This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |

AfroOfDoom
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:39:00 -
[1037] - Quote
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Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
34
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:44:00 -
[1038] - Quote
To quote Johnny Drama:
VICTORRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY~~ |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
301
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:45:00 -
[1039] - Quote
You guys thought the Ice Interdictions were bad? Hope you are looking forward to a life without Jita!
EVERYTHING BURNS
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2072
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:46:00 -
[1040] - Quote
Jita is going to burn to the ground The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
303
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:55:00 -
[1041] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Jita is going to burn to the ground
Rifter wreck in the alley this morning, missile impact on hull breach. This game is afraid of us. We have seen it's true face. The stations are hives of stupidity and the hives are full of bots and when we finally get annoyed enough, all the bots will die. The accumulated detritus of all their sloth and greed will foam up about their captain's quarters and all the bots and pubbies will look to local and shout "Zomg, Fuckin' Goons!"
... And we'll look down and whisper, "fofofo."
EVERYTHING BURNS |

Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.03.24 17:03:00 -
[1042] - Quote
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Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
25
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Posted - 2012.03.24 17:11:00 -
[1043] - Quote
Congratulations 
I gave three votes to Two Step and one to The Mittani. Seems I was not the only non-bloc player who recognizes his achievements. Keep up the good work  |

Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
84
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Posted - 2012.03.24 17:22:00 -
[1044] - Quote
All hail Superior comrade-in-arms Mittani; God-King of Space! EVE is dead |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
136
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Posted - 2012.03.24 17:40:00 -
[1045] - Quote
And now we will make you all suffer. |

Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.03.24 18:23:00 -
[1046] - Quote
Congratulations on the win and the 10k+ votes! Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460 |

Celine Sophia Maricadie
Super Seriously Strong Cheddar
5
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Posted - 2012.03.24 18:26:00 -
[1047] - Quote
Congrats on the big win, Mittens :) |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
257
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Posted - 2012.03.24 18:48:00 -
[1048] - Quote
Beckie DeLey wrote:Tornadoes. Jita.
That is all. This is Jita Statue shooting 2.0 Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Grumpy Owly
388
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Posted - 2012.03.24 18:53:00 -
[1049] - Quote
Congratulations on a convincing presidential campaign. Bounty Hunting for CSM7
It's just criminal - Smuggling |

Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
264
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Posted - 2012.03.24 19:57:00 -
[1050] - Quote
All the people i voted for won, including Mr Hand Warmers. Stuff Goes here |
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Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
44
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Posted - 2012.03.24 20:00:00 -
[1051] - Quote
well done a mittens |
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