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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.17 15:16:00 -
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Goal - The goal for this IPO is to become the largest 1 Person IPO ingame, running it close to a true complany scale as I can get while providing Maximum Dividends to my share holders.
Plan - Asking for the kind of isk I will be asking for I realize does create the need for an actual plan unlike my last IPO. I do not want to create a plan that will hold me back at any point in time, so this plan is Subject to Change if it can and will benifit myself and shareholders. Notice not just 1, but both myself and the shareholders.
The initial plan is simple, I plan on building one of the largest Production Corps in game. I will build everything T1, invention, possibly some POS Reactions, and T2 componets as well.
Starting Isk - 95bil Isk - Into BPO's 50bil Isk - Into Minerals 50bil Isk - Into Trade / Possible Reactions / POS's, Play isk if you will.
-Security - Probably none. Possibly lock down on all BPO's need to work on how this is done and how it may hinder my investors profits. If I feel I can lock them down without any security issues to myself and it won't effect my investors profits then 100bil+ will be secure. The other 100bil my name should be plenty good for.
-Shares - Each share will cost 5mil Isk. The initial sale will require a 100mil+ buy on shares so I am not tied down with 1 share requests. I will offer a buyback on shares at anytime after 6 months(long as isk allows) for initial buy price offering of 5mil Isk. The initial Value of the IPO will be 200bil isk, I will be investing pretty heavy myself probably 50bil +.
-API Key - I will play with this some, but offer anyone that has a large (10bil+) investment into CGEZ Proton Power's API Key. Most transactions will be ran through him.
-Auditing - I will allow Audits at various times if needed. I will take votes to approve the auditor.
-Dividends - You will not get any dividend for the first 3 months. The goal is to start 15 May 2008. On 15 August 2008 you will recieve what ever dividend is / was due for the entire 3mths. This will not be a high dividend due to BPO Research, and getting started. Then on the 15th of every month you will get a dividend. The goal is 11% + for 6mths in a row. If it seems I can't hit 7%+ on a normal basis the IPO will be voted on to be closed and liquidated and all isk paid out to investors. At this time a detailed report of where isk is at and what Company is worth will come out as well.
-My Salary - I will be taking 5bil isk per month flat salary, or 2.5% of initial IPO opening. If later on the company is going very strong we will vote to up that if we feel it is needed. This may seem high, but I can currently not open an IPO and make 4-5bil isk a month, all I want is my normal salary. I will not be collecting any salary until the 3rd month as well.
Now is time for the Questions, Flames, and what ever else you can throw at me. I will try to answer all questions fairly, but if you continue to flame away at me without any proof of anything then I will ignore you. If they are legit questions, and not an OMG your a scammer type posts I will answer, somtimes you may not like my answers but I will answer.
Shares Open for sale Aprox 1 May 2008. -----------------------------------------------
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Robacz
Essence Trade Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.17 15:21:00 -
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Isnt 200B too low to be largest 1 person IPO? I thought Ionia was handling more ISK than 200B (both her bonds combined).
Anyways good luck. 
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.17 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Robacz Isnt 200B too low to be largest 1 person IPO? I thought Ionia was handling more ISK than 200B (both her bonds combined).
Anyways good luck. 
Ionia is holding a Bond at 7%. With my current goals I could offer a 400bil isk Bond at 7%. I have never liked bonds though myself, I have always liked IPO's, gives investors another feature, they can buy and sell shares. -----------------------------------------------
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.01.17 15:24:00 -
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While its a novel thought to give away your API key, you should realise that theres gonna be a problem in regards to the API's caching timer.
You should pay someone to set up one of Ray's Sexy, and password it somehow :)
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.17 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista While its a novel thought to give away your API key, you should realise that theres gonna be a problem in regards to the API's caching timer.
You should pay someone to set up one of Ray's Sexy, and password it somehow :)
If you look at Ray's Example. It is my API Key, or atleast was as of a few weeks back. I will probably let him use mine as his example still if he wish's to do so, which would allow anyone to look anytime at my API and give Ray that extra boost on what he has created. -----------------------------------------------
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Bouncer Ricdic
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Posted - 2008.01.17 15:37:00 -
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Are you taking reservations?
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.17 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Proton Power on 17/01/2008 15:41:36
Originally by: Bouncer Ricdic Are you taking reservations?
I will take up to 250bil isk in reservations. This means if I do open the IPO as intended, you will get first dibs on what you have reserved nothing more. Why 250bil, well if somone changes minds in 2 or 3 months, if you have next reservation spot you get chance to get shares still. A backup if you will. -----------------------------------------------
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Bouncer Ricdic
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Posted - 2008.01.17 15:42:00 -
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Ok I (Ricdic) will reserve 5b worth 
Can I pay in Veldspar?
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Relyen
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.01.17 15:44:00 -
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Reserving 5 Bil worth :)
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.17 15:48:00 -
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Facts about Proton Power for those that have not heard of me, nor watched my last IPO.
1 - I have ran multiple POS reactions in low sec. So yes I do know how to do this and make isk doing it.
2 - I have done Invention when it first came out, limited my experience may be with this, I do know how and understand how it works.
3 - Running an IPO - I have ran an IPO that is still probably the best rated IPO as of yet on a smaller scale, I probably paid the highest dividends and over all best IPO that has been closed as of yet. (Small IPO = somthing like 16bil Isk I think).
4 - Making Isk - I have always been able to make isk. This will be a challenge to make 27bil isk per month or 1bil isk per day. But I think I am up for it. -----------------------------------------------
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Proton Power
Originally by: Robacz Isnt 200B too low to be largest 1 person IPO? I thought Ionia was handling more ISK than 200B (both her bonds combined).
Anyways good luck. 
Ionia is holding a Bond at 7%. With my current goals I could offer a 400bil isk Bond at 7%. I have never liked bonds though myself, I have always liked IPO's, gives investors another feature, they can buy and sell shares.
You can run a bond via a share issue, too. Basically, the difference, as we in MD use the terms, is that an IPO pays dividends to its shares based on profits, whereas a bond just pays the same dividend every time. In both cases, aftermarket sales can exist, and in both cases, share value tends to rise above IPO value.
I'll invest at least a billion on condition that I get to bore you with math if I find out you aren't doing invention optimally. 
MP --
Proud steward of 47 billion isk in public money, and counting. Ask me about mineral compressionexpansion! WTF? |

Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Motivated Prophet
Originally by: Proton Power
Originally by: Robacz Isnt 200B too low to be largest 1 person IPO? I thought Ionia was handling more ISK than 200B (both her bonds combined).
Anyways good luck. 
Ionia is holding a Bond at 7%. With my current goals I could offer a 400bil isk Bond at 7%. I have never liked bonds though myself, I have always liked IPO's, gives investors another feature, they can buy and sell shares.
You can run a bond via a share issue, too. Basically, the difference, as we in MD use the terms, is that an IPO pays dividends to its shares based on profits, whereas a bond just pays the same dividend every time. In both cases, aftermarket sales can exist, and in both cases, share value tends to rise above IPO value.
I'll invest at least a billion on condition that I get to bore you with math if I find out you aren't doing invention optimally. 
MP
If you want to bore me with math you will need to offer atleast 10 times what you are offering right now. I have seen and been part of some of those Math conversations. -----------------------------------------------
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Proton Power
Originally by: Motivated Prophet
Originally by: Proton Power
Originally by: Robacz Isnt 200B too low to be largest 1 person IPO? I thought Ionia was handling more ISK than 200B (both her bonds combined).
Anyways good luck. 
Ionia is holding a Bond at 7%. With my current goals I could offer a 400bil isk Bond at 7%. I have never liked bonds though myself, I have always liked IPO's, gives investors another feature, they can buy and sell shares.
You can run a bond via a share issue, too. Basically, the difference, as we in MD use the terms, is that an IPO pays dividends to its shares based on profits, whereas a bond just pays the same dividend every time. In both cases, aftermarket sales can exist, and in both cases, share value tends to rise above IPO value.
I'll invest at least a billion on condition that I get to bore you with math if I find out you aren't doing invention optimally. 
MP
If you want to bore me with math you will need to offer atleast 10 times what you are offering right now. I have seen and been part of some of those Math conversations.

MP --
Proud steward of 47 billion isk in public money, and counting. Ask me about mineral compressionexpansion! WTF? |

Sikozu Prioris
Suns Of Korhal deadspace society
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:33:00 -
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Reserving 5bill please
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Macon Squaredealer
Squaredeal Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:35:00 -
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I was an investor in Power Corrupts and certainly can't wait to invest in this IPO. I'm glad to see you doing this Proton.
Question: An industrial operation (with POS's) this large could very well be noticed by somebody larger than the casual small fry griefer corp. Is being war dec'd/blackmailed by a heavyweight something you would consider to be a valid concern? ___________________________________________ Watch for the Squaredeal Enterprises IPO in the coming months. |

Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Macon Squaredealer I was an investor in Power Corrupts and certainly can't wait to invest in this IPO. I'm glad to see you doing this Proton.
Question: An industrial operation (with POS's) this large could very well be noticed by somebody larger than the casual small fry griefer corp. Is being war dec'd/blackmailed by a heavyweight something you would consider to be a valid concern?
Very good question. If I do get into POS's again it will be very small scale. Small POS's on good moons and one or 2 reactions in a low sec area with everything in same system. Basicly set it up so even if I did lose all POS's it would cost very little to the Corp. Here is how I look at POS's. If I can't make the isk I am putting into them within 1.5mths they are not worth it.
So yes, That is a concern, but it would not effect the corp in the way you are thinking. -----------------------------------------------
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Tarash Awin
Minmatar Sackville
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:41:00 -
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I'll reserve 15 billion worth please.
Tarash Awin - Sackville [SACKE]
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Eridicus
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Eridicus on 17/01/2008 16:45:03 Reserving 5B
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:45:00 -
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I want to know what happened to the shares I bought in Power Corrupts industries in March 2006, never got any dividends after a month...... If I can get that sorted out I will throw some isk at this to earn while away from game.
~Nyron
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan But poor victimized Ulf...I weep lavender scented tears for you.
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Macon Squaredealer
Squaredeal Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:46:00 -
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Thanks for the answer.
I would like to reserve 5B please. ___________________________________________ Watch for the Squaredeal Enterprises IPO in the coming months. |
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava I want to know what happened to the shares I bought in Power Corrupts industries in March 2006, never got any dividends after a month...... If I can get that sorted out I will throw some isk at this to earn while away from game.
I would have to look at dates and figure out when I closed PCI out, but sounds like you bought shares right before the Last IPO was closed out or close to it. Over all PCI paid over 300% in dividends when all was done and said if you bought at original price. -----------------------------------------------
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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:49:00 -
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PP, might i suggest you link up some of your past ventures for the newer ppl here in MD who dont know you.
Since you have been gone so long conducting RL anti pirate patrols in low sec. --
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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:51:00 -
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Reserving 5bil --
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Shuan Jedai
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Shuan Jedai on 17/01/2008 17:03:12 Edited by: Shuan Jedai on 17/01/2008 17:02:23 Dividents per share(after the 3 monts) = (monthly profit - 5b)/number of shares, right? No re-investement?
Are you planning to buy shares for yourself or is it just the flat 5b (that might get upgraded)?
Just in case this sells out fast, reserving 500M worth of shares. |

Prodigal
Caldari New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.01.17 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Proton Power Edited by: Proton Power on 17/01/2008 15:41:36
Originally by: Bouncer Ricdic Are you taking reservations?
I will take up to 250bil isk in reservations. This means if I do open the IPO as intended, you will get first dibs on what you have reserved nothing more. Why 250bil, well if somone changes minds in 2 or 3 months, if you have next reservation spot you get chance to get shares still. A backup if you will.
I will bite for 10B
Please reserve 2000 shares at 5M each please.
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Admiral Grevious
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Posted - 2008.01.17 17:03:00 -
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I would like to reserve 1.5 billion.
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Athias
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Posted - 2008.01.17 17:04:00 -
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I would like to reserve for 1 bill please, you need some "small" investors as well 
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Assens Letta
Hunerian Science Institute Te-Ka
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Posted - 2008.01.17 17:07:00 -
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Good luck on your venture, now just a feww questions to start with:
1- its just you right ?
2- how many trained alts for production ?
3- how many trained inventors
4- if you are doing invention do you plan to do the copying part yourself ? how many chars are linned up for that ? if not what do you assume the overhead increase will be ?
5- time availability, RL and eve and the time to generate 1B/d in proffit ? can you commnet in any missaps that might occur ?
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.17 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Shuan Jedai Edited by: Shuan Jedai on 17/01/2008 17:03:12 Edited by: Shuan Jedai on 17/01/2008 17:02:23 Dividents per share(after the 3 monts) = (monthly profit - 5b)/number of shares, right? No re-investement?
Are you planning to buy shares for yourself or is it just the flat 5b (that might get upgraded)?
Just in case this sells out fast, reserving 500M worth of shares.
If this answer does not answer your question please let me know.
90 Days after IPO opens I will pay myself 5bil for getting the IPO going, after that any value over 200bil goes out in dividends to the share holders. I will also be buying shares probably 50bil worth, so I will get dividends on my isk as well just like a real company, the CEO gets a salary and stock deals and such.
No matter what I get 5bil at the end of each month, this is my fee for running the IPO. Seems steep, and probably is, but that is my fee. So if corp is worth 212bil after the month I get 5bil and 7bil gets paid out in dividends. If corp is worth 250bil at end of month I get 5bil and 45bil gets paid out in dividends.
I don't expect to pay much at all at the end of the 3rd month, more than half the Isk will be sitting in Research Slots for most of those 3mths. -----------------------------------------------
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Assens Letta
Hunerian Science Institute Te-Ka
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Posted - 2008.01.17 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Proton Power Edited by: Proton Power on 17/01/2008 15:41:36
Originally by: Bouncer Ricdic Are you taking reservations?
I will take up to 250bil isk in reservations. This means if I do open the IPO as intended, you will get first dibs on what you have reserved nothing more. Why 250bil, well if somone changes minds in 2 or 3 months, if you have next reservation spot you get chance to get shares still. A backup if you will.
Originally by: Proton Power
Starting Isk - 95bil Isk - Into BPO's 50bil Isk - Into Minerals 50bil Isk - Into Trade / Possible Reactions / POS's, Play isk if you will.
95+50+50 = 195B if u accept 250B in reservations ?
Are the remaining 55B coming out of your pocket ?
How much is the overall IPO worth ?
How many shares ?
How much will u retain in terms of shares (if anything at all) ?
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