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ashland
Gallente
Universal Peace Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:27:00 -
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
This June I would have been a player of five years, But thats not going to happen. I ( My Main) started as a miner, but soon realised the thrill of being a pirate. So I spent 4 years being one mainly based in Ami. For the loss of about 20 Battle Ships I killed around 2000 - 3000 players ships and pods.
When I started it would take 12 of us about 2 weeks to raise enough money to purchase a Battle ship. So when you killed one the threats you received were real( and bless eve they were good). Not the case now I arrive at a system now and am constantly greated with a request to buy isk! So many people now are able to buy capital ships because of this,dont fly it if you cant afford to lose it means nothing!.
This game is the titanic of multi player games but I suggest it has struck the iceberg and give it 3 years before it sinks.
The stench thats was BOB is slowly fading but the cheating memory they leave stays with this game, and the CCP that supported them I can only wonder who they have joined now.
Low sec is dead, 0.0 is the place to make isk in an alliance, high sec is or the real isk making for carebears.
CCP originally made the game how they saw it but now they mearly buckle to the masses, because they spend the money, makes for great profit but a lousy game.
I salute you, have enjoyed my time greatly and now soon look to the next game.
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
TheSystem
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: TheSystem on 19/01/2008 21:29:47
Stuff? Can I have yours? 
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Magners Marauders
VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:29:00 -
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bubye now.
CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:35:00 -
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the days were better.
sadly as I don't play ever often and I don't buy isk I'm sitting on 8 mil a battleship 3 logtisics ships and a ton of toehr blah ships.
So I'm sorry to see you go but I fully understand why your leaving mate.
I actully rerolled because this new bloodline got me into the game again, being albe to start all over!
but yeah everyone I kill I'm 100% sure it's not a loss to them anymore.
however I personaly think CCP will try to do something to fix this problem.
I don't know how but for now I stay.
me and my 8 mil :P
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Selene Le'Cotiere
Amarr
I-Omniscient-I
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Selene Le''Cotiere on 19/01/2008 21:38:50
Your toon.. can I have? 
Silliness aside, sorry to see a vet such as yourself go. Hold onto the memories and "stuff" you have accumulated. Hopefully we'll see you in EVE again one day.
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"Some would call me a Demon. Others, a Vampire. But if the truth be told, I'm a child of the moon and a Goddess among men."
Free pint of blood for the Dev who agrees |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:41:00 -
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p.s. maybe you should fiund a random noob in a high sec area and just give him your character 
just really freak him out.
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Shwedagon Paya
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:41:00 -
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I think it's a good thing that it doesn't take two weeks to replace your ship now.
That's what kept a lot of people from playing the game. 95% chores to 5% fun isn't a ratio most people are willing to tolerate.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Shwedagon Paya
I think it's a good thing that it doesn't take two weeks to replace your ship now.
That's what kept a lot of people from playing the game. 95% chores to 5% fun isn't a ratio most people are willing to tolerate.
that's true but eve needs something else to make losing a ship mean something.
like oh **** I died! that means something REALLY BAD.
maybe factional warface will fix this.
not I'm not talking about isk but something, anything else.
like a battlefield that you can't get back to because of some reason.
Or if a simple number of kills and losses even on your charactersheet? so people see how much you suck.
Or anything really.
I don't know I don't want to push out new players but I don't want to invite free ship lose yay nothing is wrong with dying.
but personaly this is one area where I guess I don't have any great ideas... :(
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ashland
Gallente
Universal Peace Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shwedagon Paya
I think it's a good thing that it doesn't take two weeks to replace your ship now.
That's what kept a lot of people from playing the game. 95% chores to 5% fun isn't a ratio most people are willing to tolerate.
I quote my south park ring tone! " me me me mememe! SHUT UP FAT ASS!!" |
Jacob Castillo
Caldari
Copperhead Inc.
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
p.s. maybe you should fiund a random noob in a high sec area and just give him your character
just really freak him out.
I would hold onto your character, you'll be back eventually. Eve won't be dead for a long time, despite what you may think about the game. Instead. you could always just raffle off your assets, donate them to your corp, or give them to a new player or something (or me, I could use some ISK atm  ).
I do, however, have to agree that the old days, back in '04, or hell, even early '06 seemed a lot funner. Would be nice to see the death of the blob, even if it never happens 
Anyway, good luck in whatever you may do next, and sorry to see you go.
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Elles D
Caldari
Endure Eternal
DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Shwedagon Paya
I think it's a good thing that it doesn't take two weeks to replace your ship now.
That's what kept a lot of people from playing the game. 95% chores to 5% fun isn't a ratio most people are willing to tolerate.
If you really think that then the entire premise is lost on you.
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Spaceman Jack
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:50:00 -
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As a beta player myself.. I have to sympathize with a lot of this sentiment myself.
Sorry to see you leave.
Too many punks who feed off of what you talk about will never get what you are saying.
EVE is still the best and most beautiful MMO out there, but no where near the excitement of its former self.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
SIVAKASI
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:55:00 -
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Don't tell me you are leaving us now? I have just joined the game.
Kind of the suck. Anyway, hope you can find a better pwning game. Good luck. 
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Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Recruitment
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Shwedagon Paya
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Elles D
If you really think that then the entire premise is lost on you.
No, I understand it, I just think it's idiotic.
If doing repetitive **** for two weeks every time you lose a fight is your idea of a good time, you can still do it today. Buy yourself a CNR or Navy Mega, fit it with faction and officer modules, throw some expensive rigs on there, and you're guaranteed to lose it sooner or later.
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ashland
Gallente
Universal Peace Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Don't tell me you are leaving us now? I have just joined the game.
Kind of the suck. Anyway, hope you can find a better pwning game. Good luck.
Just joined?? as far as I know youve been a forum ***** for like ever!!
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Don't tell me you are leaving us now? I have just joined the game.
Kind of the suck. Anyway, hope you can find a better pwning game. Good luck.
it happens jenny.
see you just joined so to you this game is how it is now.
but to older players the game can be too different to bear. I mean think about it it's like how when we colonized western america.
you could just out up a fence and done you own land. then everyone that owns land builds a little town which is really hard work.
and cowboys show up and pirates!
now those same people go back to those same towns and there are HUGE buildings in place and they weren't hard to build and there are normal jobs everywhere.
it's great for us new young people!
but the oldtimers just keep remembering building that 1st fence.
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Selene Le'Cotiere
Amarr
I-Omniscient-I
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shwedagon Paya
I think it's a good thing that it doesn't take two weeks to replace your ship now.
That's what kept a lot of people from playing the game. 95% chores to 5% fun isn't a ratio most people are willing to tolerate.
I disagree... The harsh penalties for loosing your ship is one of the features that has drawn me to this game. The game forces you to think, or, suffer the consequences if you don't.
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"Some would call me a Demon. Others, a Vampire. But if the truth be told, I'm a child of the moon and a Goddess among men."
Free pint of blood for the Dev who agrees |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: ashland
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Don't tell me you are leaving us now? I have just joined the game.
Kind of the suck. Anyway, hope you can find a better pwning game. Good luck.
Just joined?? as far as I know youve been a forum ***** for like ever!!
HAHAHA the old jenny gave up her character to the old jenny who gave it to this new jenny, which by the way is jenny mk3 
I show this jenny eve-search and she was OMG I didn't know I was famous.
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Elles D
Caldari
Endure Eternal
DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Shwedagon Paya
Originally by: Elles D
If you really think that then the entire premise is lost on you.
No, I understand it, I just think it's idiotic.
If doing repetitive **** for two weeks every time you lose a fight is your idea of a good time, you can still do it today. Buy yourself a CNR or Navy Mega, fit it with faction and officer modules, throw some expensive rigs on there, and you're guaranteed to lose it sooner or later.
Nope, still don't get it.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
SIVAKASI
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:05:00 -
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ashland, I just started in December 07 
I just got lucky and some leaver gave me this character. Maybe you could also try to make a newb happy by going to some high secs and find someone in a rookie ship mining concentrated veldspar. Talk and get to know the player and transfer your character to the player. Make a newb happy 
Oh I see, MotherMoon. Thank God CCP has new players joining from time to time to buff up players leaving because of boredom. It is all good for us because Eve never dies. 
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Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Recruitment
-KB- |
ashland
Gallente
Universal Peace Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
ashland, I just started in December 07
I just got lucky and some leaver gave me this character. Maybe you could also try to make a newb happy by going to some high secs and find someone in a rookie ship mining concentrated veldspar. Talk and get to know the player and transfer your character to the player. Make a newb happy
Oh I see, MotherMoon. Thank God CCP has new players joining from time to time to buff up players leaving because of boredom. It is all good for us because Eve never dies.
Well if Jenny Spitfire has left leaving you her character then I rest my case, stand back and watch this ship sink.
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 19/01/2008 22:12:21
Originally by: ashland
....booo....whine...booo....in the good old days we mined three weeks for a bs.....whine...everyone has a cap ship....whine...
(a) You are whining a lot.
(b) Low-sec is not dead.
(c) If the place you're at sucks due to blobbage, move to greener pastures.
(d) ISK buying (and GTC selling, a legal and much safer alternative) exists in practically every game with more then 10K players.
(e) CCP has improved this game over time. Every patch I saw since I joined has made things better on average, not worse.
(e) The progression of the economy is not so much CCP's devising (although, L4 high-sec missions partially are), it's the player-base getting richer and therefore more effective at production/etc. A BS is preety easy to make now not beacuse just people are richer, but it takes you a hour or so in a Hulk to mine the minerals for it.
(f) You're being overly nostalgic. Nostalgia is fine, but be objective, seriously.
(g) Losses are still expensive. Yes, you can sell GTCs to reimburse them, if that's your thing. Losing two well-fit BS still hurts, unless you have gotten stupidly rich.
Give me your stuff. Seriously. Being a Vet does not entitle you to whining like Jenny MK IV.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:09:00 -
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the funny thing is that a newb can be in a battleship and doing level 4 missions within a month - he might not have all the good skills to pvp in a battleship but he sure can npc
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
ashland, I just started in December 07
I just got lucky and some leaver gave me this character. Maybe you could also try to make a newb happy by going to some high secs and find someone in a rookie ship mining concentrated veldspar. Talk and get to know the player and transfer your character to the player. Make a newb happy
Oh I see, MotherMoon. Thank God CCP has new players joining from time to time to buff up players leaving because of boredom. It is all good for us because Eve never dies.
correction jenny to be a true forum warrior you must say.
eve never fades
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ashland
Gallente
Universal Peace Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: ashland
....booo....whine...booo....in the good old days we mined three weeks for a bs.....whine...everyone has a cap ship....whine...
(a) You are whining a lot.
(b) Low-sec is not dead.
(c) If the place you're at sucks due to blobbage, move to greener pastures.
(d) ISK buying (and GTC selling, a legal and much safer alternative) exists in practically every game with more then 10K players.
(e) CCP has improved this game over time. Every patch I saw since I joined has made things better on average, not worse.
(f) The progression of the economy is not so much CCP's devising (although, L4 high-sec missions partially are), it's the player-base getting richer and therefore more effective.
(e) You're being overly nostalgic. Nostalgia is fine, but be objective, seriously.
Well after 5 attempts to quote you ( yeh good one CCP) Iv done it like this! So where do you work in CCP? pubic relations?? and so if selling in other games exists its ok to be in this one??? hmmm so you think ****** wasnt all bad?
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
ashland
Gallente
Universal Peace Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: ashland
Originally by: ashland
....booo....whine...booo....in the good old days we mined three weeks for a bs.....whine...everyone has a cap ship....whine...
(a) You are whining a lot.
(b) Low-sec is not dead.
(c) If the place you're at sucks due to blobbage, move to greener pastures.
(d) ISK buying (and GTC selling, a legal and much safer alternative) exists in practically every game with more then 10K players.
OMG the word H&I&T&L&E&R is banned???????????????
(e) CCP has improved this game over time. Every patch I saw since I joined has made things better on average, not worse.
(f) The progression of the economy is not so much CCP's devising (although, L4 high-sec missions partially are), it's the player-base getting richer and therefore more effective.
(e) You're being overly nostalgic. Nostalgia is fine, but be objective, seriously.
Well after 5 attempts to quote you ( yeh good one CCP) Iv done it like this! So where do you work in CCP? pubic relations?? and so if selling in other games exists its ok to be in this one??? hmmm so you think ****** wasnt all bad?
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
mechtech
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:16:00 -
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I think risk vs reward needs a bit more balancing (IMO insurance almost pays back a BS in full, only costs 20 mil to lose a well fit BS without rigs these days). I do feel CCP will fix this though, maybe with tech 3, I have no idea.
Isk sellers are a bit different though. Isk has lost its value, when I joined, 1 Bil was over 100$, now it's 25$. The isk farmers have gotten really efficient and are really tanking the economy. Of course CCP now has an economist who might help fix this. Isk sellers are a touchy subject, and CCP doesn't like to bring it out in the open. I still have faith they'll fix it though. The solution isn't to ban the sellers really (they will always be there, demand is too high). The solution is to hurt the players doing the buying and creating the demand, that's where the real problem lies.
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Daelorn
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Daelorn on 19/01/2008 22:22:12
Originally by: Shwedagon Paya
I think it's a good thing that it doesn't take two weeks to replace your ship now.
That's what kept a lot of people from playing the game. 95% chores to 5% fun isn't a ratio most people are willing to tolerate.
And I enjoyed EVE more when the player base was a small and EVE was tough. Thats why many of the awesome players that played in the beginning are now gone.
The old EVE was the awesome EVE.
And some of you are saying that we are whining, you'll never understand what EVE was like back then, so please, STFU.
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Benedic
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:19:00 -
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100s of farmers with names like fowsifsdjsf sitting in highsec 23/7 farming missions with impunity. ISK spammers in every local, rookie chat, public channels. CCP employees that have shown they are unable to be unbiased in the past.
Can't really argue with his reasons for quitting.
Don't give away your character, keep it going on long skills. There are many who will be jumping ship for the next halfway-decent game... too bad there are none on the horizon. Getting stuck with nothing to play sucks worse than being stuck playing eve.
- in before this gets moved to OOP.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:21:00 -
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actully I have a game you might enjoy :)
1st of all for one player space sim stuff have you played nexus or galactic civilizations 2 dark avatar?
the civ one is free to play by the way, 20 bucks to actually buy the game and thus get updates and bug fixes.
basically your SUPPOSE to buy the game. but they don't ask for a CD key or everyone steals it. I know I did :)
but I think I might give them 20 bucks it's really fun and I would like the updates.
HOWEVER, if your looking for something more like infinity which will never come out.
jumpgate evolution should be opening it's doors soon and sounds like a great twitch based space game. or at least I believe it's that kind of mmorpg. lots of news on it here.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/overview/gameID/297/
do you use the same game name for everything?
if so I'll see you out there!
yarr!
(I'm normally trentonx)
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