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Maximillian Power Minmatar Twilight Faction	Posted - 2008.01.22 07:57:00 - [31] Edited by: Maximillian Power on 22/01/2008 07:58:17 Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Well said. Sadly, most of the antipies are opportunistic bastards that are trying to halt our efforts. Gotta thank our allies for allowing us to use rapid dominance against the anti-pie blobs. Hopefully, enough people will join the cause that all the fruity little antipies will decide that the cost of disrupting it is too great. I say this with all due respect - because I think the macro killing you are doing deserves kudos, however, you need to understand that doing it does not allow you to use it as an excuse when others attack you. A somewhat contrived analogy that will hopefully show why your arguments about the anti-pies are ultimately, fundamentally flawed: Suppose that there was a rat infestation in the area where you live. As a result all the houses are infested and people are having a really crappy time because of it. Its pretty much ruining everyones day. Being the decent individual that you are you decide to do something about it and grab a number of people to help you. Before long the rats are starting to dwindle and everyone is beginning to feel better about the area. However, all this rat killing costs money, and you are low on money. In order to get some money you decide to steal from the people in your local area and destroy their property. Now, I ask you, If those local people decide to take action against you when you put back on your rat killer costume are they wrong? Are they suddenly pro-rat? Or, do you honestly believe that killing the rats would absolve you from having to face the repercussions of your actions. I love pirates. I think pirates are great. I've even done my fair share. But every action has consequences. Accept them like the mature individual I hope you are. If you were to make a statement on here stating that you were going 100% anti-macro without the pirating then you would have an argument, and a very good one. But right now you don't
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.22 08:26:00 - [32] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 20/01/2008 21:23:25 Originally by: Grunanca Long before you arrived Or... Long before you noticed us. Been killing them in Ingunn months before the foundation of Metafarmers. We've also had plenty of people helping(like the bees) , but I can count on one hand the amount of times I have seen your guys in local in the past 4-5 months. Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Cruthensis Gallente Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2008.01.22 13:57:00 - [33] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto This is going to make me feel really dirty, but it truly is the farmers' war against us. They are working very hard to end EVE prematurely. Actually, they are working hard to keep it barely alive and in a state of enslavement to feed the sweatshop owners (and to a lesser extend the workers). They don't want Eve gone, they just want a steady stream of ISK buying cheats to pay their wages. Whether anyone actually enjoys this game or not is essentially irrelevant to them. If they get their way, then welcome to "ISK Buyer Online" where everyone can be a winner so long as you can "Buy your way AWESOME!". 1. Buy Vexor 2. Fit for Gank 3. Suicide ISK farmer 4. Grind sec 5. see 1.
Agent Li Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium BLACKHAWK FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.01.22 15:09:00 - [34] Hmm. So you buy a high skill point character on eBay, then pay an isk seller for a mountain of isk... Still doesn't make you an effective pilot. All it means is that you'll fly (probably alone, since you might believe that you are uber) an expensive ship and get podded. The rest of us will sell your loot, salvage your wreck, and collect the frozen corpse, forcing you to go back to the isk seller again... Lather, rinse, repeat... ------------------ Let me show you around. That's my lab table, and this is my workstool. And over there is my intergalactic spaceship. And here's where I keep assorted lengths of wire.
Nairova Intaku	Posted - 2008.01.22 16:12:00 - [35] Edited by: Nairova Intaku on 22/01/2008 16:11:45 teehee
Lobster Man Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.01.22 16:14:00 - [36] We see antipies not as a hindrance, but more often a supply of free kills and loot. The majority of them are very stupid, and do little to halt our efforts; we've actually made more friends than enemies in our turkey shoot of 100's of haulers daily. Please, if you wish to help us, do bring something with a fast lock and high volley damage to ingunn, we generally don't fire on you unless you fire on us first
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2008.01.22 17:32:00 - [37] do you think a stealth bomber killing war targets has enough volley damage? ------------- fixed for greater eve content
General StarScream Borg Collective hive mind	Posted - 2008.01.22 17:55:00 - [38] The Borg collective hive mind is one of the biggest farming corps in eve. something needs to be done Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Vim Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.01.22 17:59:00 - [39] Keep the work up. If I was not so guarding my last .'s of pre blinky sec like they were gold bars I'd join you for a pot of tea.
Man ho	Posted - 2008.01.22 18:21:00 - [40] General Starscream... The exit is that a way ------> We don't want you here, unless you wanna get podded at the hands of real pirates. Go fail to scam somewhere else, and take your "Borg" collective with you. Star Trek much?

Lobster Man Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.01.22 18:41:00 - [41] Originally by: Lithalnas do you think a stealth bomber killing war targets has enough volley damage? Probably not, at least according to EFT. Using t2 rage cruises with your bomber's racial bonus damage type, and 2 bcus, the volley damage is 2800. My blasterhyp has a volley damage of 3300 and sometimes I'm not even able to 1-volley all the hauler, your results will vary of course.
Stakhanov Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.01.22 20:55:00 - [42] Originally by: Lithalnas do you think a stealth bomber killing war targets has enough volley damage? Can work , but you will need at least 2 volleys. For war targets , it's easier to just use a T1 frigate and use short range scrams to counter stabs. Originally by: ivan draco we didnt want your post anyway
Man ho Minmatar Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.01.22 22:04:00 - [43] Quote from Max... If you were to make a statement on here stating that you were going 100% anti-macro without the pirating then you would have an argument, and a very good one. But right now you don't This argument fails. There is no feesable way to tell which hauler is a farmer or not in the 10 seconds you get beforee it warps out. Additionally we are finding farmers now in all sorts of ships, some are even trying to fight back. We kill everything that is not set blue for many reasons. We will not try to qualify targets while camping a station so if your not there to help, stay away. If you are there to help, let us know and we will generally enbrace you as a brother... As for why we attack targets not at station it is because we are first and formost pirates. We take what you have for glory and profit. If you don't like it, if you are ethically opposed to it, then either be scarce or warp in firing because we will take what is yours. Our only complaint about anti pi's is them thinking they are going to school us, then run from us when we make an aggressive move. We have the right as anyone else in Eve to make a living, and your ethics do not apply to us. To all of you that are helping in this cause, I say Thank You, your efforts are much appreciated. As for Anti pi's, please come and find us, more targets = more fun, glory, and profit. Doing my part to end the isk selling scourge.
Meurtriez Vous	Posted - 2008.01.22 23:51:00 - [44] I am very interested in joining the hunt. I fly Incursus, tackles at 2000m/s, long range lock. Scrams, webs. I'm your fast guy. I'll be in game in a few hours. Please evemail me.
Vyy Gnash	Posted - 2008.01.23 21:37:00 - [45] Edited by: Vyy Gnash on 23/01/2008 21:40:14 Question: If someone is in the fleet in a BC/CS boosting you guys but does not take part in the actual destruction of the farmers does that person still take the security status hit? This char is working toward Command Ships but since she normally is a support character for empire mining she can't afford to go negative security status. However, I would love to help you guys out. Edit for spelling
Man ho Minmatar Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.01.23 22:20:00 - [46] If you are just in the gang and in the system giving bonuses then no, you don't get a status hit. (from my understanding) But if you fire, damp, scram, or remote repair then you will share the sec hit. Doing my part to end the isk selling scourge.
Alia Xi Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.23 23:32:00 - [47] Originally by: Orar Ironfist Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 20/01/2008 22:46:52 Originally by: Grunanca Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 20/01/2008 21:23:25 Originally by: Grunanca Long before you arrived Or... Long before you noticed us. Been killing them in Ingunn months before the foundation of Metafarmers. We've also had plenty of people helping(like the bees), but I can count on one hand the amount of times I have seen your guys in local in the past 4-5 months. Which clearly shows you havent really been around lately... We are there every day as their battleships tend to be only targets in the area in the morning europe time. But of course, we use recon ships or covert ops ships to scan with, so we wouldnt show up on scan for you to see anyway. You talk a big game, but the only time I've ever seen you in Ingunn was today. Good hunting :) Nah man im pretty sure hes been there alot....he even released that sweet vid of him(and friends later) killing all those macros in one day. Yup, they're there I can assure you I've also seen the macro slaughter vid - excellent! Infact, it inspired me to do a bit of the same
Sean Dillon Caldari Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.01.24 23:28:00 - [48] There is 100 people at times in ingun, a low sec system, hauler sellers are making a golden profit at this time and see their sales doubled or even tripled at good times, thx to our efforts.
kerjin	Posted - 2008.01.26 13:03:00 - [49] The ingunn golden age was 4-5 months ago when Havoc Inc. was nearby - I was selling as many bestowers as I could make for 9m each. Prices are now approaching regional average. If you see a someone shooting haulers at the ingunn republic station then make yourself useful and bump the haulers for him, don't shoot him ffs you morons.
Ess Erbe Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.01.26 14:17:00 - [50] I've got some sec status to burn, so I may try to get into Ingunn and join in the farmer killing - just have to be careful, as I'm still noobcorped.

Rael Valen	Posted - 2008.01.31 00:00:00 - [51] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 20/01/2008 11:44:14 Metafarmers began with the short term objective of clearing out Orfrold. This used to be a very nice area for missions/pveing/combat/piracy and general fun. Once the farmers came to Orfrold, no one else wanted to be there. The farmers caused lag(including desyncs) and made it hard to track the coming and going of local. So the system was a very nice area for missions/pveing and now you guys hunt down anyone trying to operate there (I was there to earn money doing missions, that means I'm a farmer? Just checking so I understand you) and that's progress for the PvE side? Sorry but I just don't get it. I liked it better when there was all those haulers running around and I could actually do a mission without getting scanned. Maybe it's just me? For the record: I don't mind pirates in lowsec, part of the game, and I have no respect for macroers. Just please don't act like your improving my PvE experiance in Orfrold, more like you ruined it. Which is fine cuz luckily there's still high sec for us that like doing missions from time to time to earn a little isk. If you wanna be pirates then that's all good, but if you want to earn my respect for cleaning the game of farmers then go suicide gank macro miners in high sec and macro ratters in 0.0 instead of shutting down my missioning in lowsec while claiming to help me out.
Praxis1452 The Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.31 02:31:00 - [52] Originally by: Rael Valen Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 20/01/2008 11:44:14 Metafarmers began with the short term objective of clearing out Orfrold. This used to be a very nice area for missions/pveing/combat/piracy and general fun. Once the farmers came to Orfrold, no one else wanted to be there. The farmers caused lag(including desyncs) and made it hard to track the coming and going of local. So the system was a very nice area for missions/pveing and now you guys hunt down anyone trying to operate there (I was there to earn money doing missions, that means I'm a farmer? Just checking so I understand you) and that's progress for the PvE side? Sorry but I just don't get it. I liked it better when there was all those haulers running around and I could actually do a mission without getting scanned. Maybe it's just me? For the record: I don't mind pirates in lowsec, part of the game, and I have no respect for macroers. Just please don't act like your improving my PvE experiance in Orfrold, more like you ruined it. Which is fine cuz luckily there's still high sec for us that like doing missions from time to time to earn a little isk. If you wanna be pirates then that's all good, but if you want to earn my respect for cleaning the game of farmers then go suicide gank macro miners in high sec and macro ratters in 0.0 instead of shutting down my missioning in lowsec while claiming to help me out. They aren't trying to earn your respect. If you hate macro's then, "cool" they are doing that. They are also pirates though. They don't pretend not to be pirates. <-makes sense(thought it took me 3 revisions of that sentence). You claim that if they wanna be pirates, "then that's all good" but then say "instead of shutting down my missioning". They are supposed to gank you often and for much isk. It's what they do. If your unhappy with pirates, as you are, say it. Don't pretend and contradict yourself. ôHe who must expend his life to prolong life cannot enjoy it, and he who is still seeking for his life does not have it and can as little enjoy it.ö
Hemroid Diddller Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.01.31 03:42:00 - [53] Originally by: Rael Valen Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 20/01/2008 11:44:14 Metafarmers began with the short term objective of clearing out Orfrold. This used to be a very nice area for missions/pveing/combat/piracy and general fun. Once the farmers came to Orfrold, no one else wanted to be there. The farmers caused lag(including desyncs) and made it hard to track the coming and going of local. So the system was a very nice area for missions/pveing and now you guys hunt down anyone trying to operate there (I was there to earn money doing missions, that means I'm a farmer? Just checking so I understand you) and that's progress for the PvE side? Sorry but I just don't get it. I liked it better when there was all those haulers running around and I could actually do a mission without getting scanned. Maybe it's just me? For the record: I don't mind pirates in lowsec, part of the game, and I have no respect for macroers. Just please don't act like your improving my PvE experiance in Orfrold, more like you ruined it. Which is fine cuz luckily there's still high sec for us that like doing missions from time to time to earn a little isk. If you wanna be pirates then that's all good, but if you want to earn my respect for cleaning the game of farmers then go suicide gank macro miners in high sec and macro ratters in 0.0 instead of shutting down my missioning in lowsec while claiming to help me out. They never asked for your respect nor expected it. Thye are pirates and killing macros is their "thing" but that doesnt mean that if your not a macro they're just gonna leave you alone.
Stitchedscars Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.01.31 05:05:00 - [54] Originally by: Rael Valen Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 20/01/2008 11:44:14 Metafarmers began with the short term objective of clearing out Orfrold. This used to be a very nice area for missions/pveing/combat/piracy and general fun. Once the farmers came to Orfrold, no one else wanted to be there. The farmers caused lag(including desyncs) and made it hard to track the coming and going of local. So the system was a very nice area for missions/pveing and now you guys hunt down anyone trying to operate there (I was there to earn money doing missions, that means I'm a farmer? Just checking so I understand you) and that's progress for the PvE side? Sorry but I just don't get it. I liked it better when there was all those haulers running around and I could actually do a mission without getting scanned. Maybe it's just me? For the record: I don't mind pirates in lowsec, part of the game, and I have no respect for macroers. Just please don't act like your improving my PvE experiance in Orfrold, more like you ruined it. Which is fine cuz luckily there's still high sec for us that like doing missions from time to time to earn a little isk. If you wanna be pirates then that's all good, but if you want to earn my respect for cleaning the game of farmers then go suicide gank macro miners in high sec and macro ratters in 0.0 instead of shutting down my missioning in lowsec while claiming to help me out. As i have said in the past macros dont make us money we just hate them. You on the other hand do. So come on back down to our neck of the woods(yes i am southern). We are formost pie's and are very active in combat. Its hard for me to admit this but i did run missions at one time but i never got ganked in a mission. And sometimes wonder what that person is thinking when a big blinky red ship joins them. Then i stop day dreaming, start screaming YARRRR, and blast away till i see blood or isk.
Rael Valen	Posted - 2008.01.31 14:39:00 - [55] First off: When I re-read my post today I realized that it was more harsch than I meant it to be so my apologies to Metafarmers for that... Originally by: Praxis1452 They aren't trying to earn your respect. If you hate macro's then, "cool" they are doing that. They are also pirates though. They don't pretend not to be pirates. <-makes sense(thought it took me 3 revisions of that sentence). You claim that if they wanna be pirates, "then that's all good" but then say "instead of shutting down my missioning". They are supposed to gank you often and for much isk. It's what they do. If your unhappy with pirates, as you are, say it. Don't pretend and contradict yourself. Originally by: Hemroid Diddller They never asked for your respect nor expected it. Thye are pirates and killing macros is their "thing" but that doesnt mean that if your not a macro they're just gonna leave you alone. First: Maybe it's just me, or perhaps my lacking english skills, but this thread seems to be very much asking for respect. Second: No one is ever gonna make isk by ganking my mission ships in lowsec, they will always be fitted with the cheapest crap I could find. So if you're scanning down my mission ship in lowsec and hope to get any money from it, don't hold your breath cuz it wont happen... Third, and last: I'm not unhappy with pirates, I was sad to find Orfrold full of pirates when I came back to it tho. But that's not why I responded to this thread. I dislike this attempt to make Metafarmers some kind of "good guys" that make lowsec better for everyone, except farmers. In my book they are just normal lowsec pirates (again, nothing wrong with that).
Stakhanov Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.01.31 15:39:00 - [56] Well , in my view cleaning lowsec of farmers is making it better. If you prefer to blend into the farmer crowd , no problem , we'll keep killing you along with them. Originally by: ivan draco we didnt want your post anyway
Cygore Amarr Death Cult Armageddon	Posted - 2008.01.31 21:13:00 - [57] man i'd love to join in on somethin like this, i have a Drake/Nighthawk i could use, but i trust absoloutly no-one in lowsec lol, too much chance of being killed by ppl i'm tryin to help :s Good huntin tho
delta phi	Posted - 2008.02.01 01:24:00 - [58] Originally by: Cygore man i'd love to join in on somethin like this, i have a Drake/Nighthawk i could use, but i trust absoloutly no-one in lowsec lol, too much chance of being killed by ppl i'm tryin to help :s Good huntin tho true i spoke to metafarmers they told me that if you pay 20 mill a week they will let u pass.lol seems that farmers are not thier real targets as they say.
Stakhanov Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.02.01 04:05:00 - [59] Farmers are our real targets , which is why we are willing to sell standings for cheap. But at the end of the day , ransoms pay the bills. Originally by: ivan draco we didnt want your post anyway


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