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MasterEnt	Posted - 2008.01.20 19:47:00 - [1] If they are ever made available. We deserve it, Nuff Said
Lothris Andastar	Posted - 2008.01.20 19:49:00 - [2] Edited by: Lothris Andastar on 20/01/2008 19:49:38 No Why should you get them? Why should people who buy 4 year old chars get them? Get over yourself idiot Also you don't DESERVE anything
MasterEnt	Posted - 2008.01.20 19:56:00 - [3] Of course we do Look, you came here to post nothing constructive.. just anger. This proves you should not be able to use anything special Thats all I am saying.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.01.20 19:57:00 - [4] 4 years subscribed or 4 year old accounts? Why not 3? ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Jacob Castillo Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.20 19:58:00 - [5] Why not 5 and you lose 90% of your total current SP?
Ek Onkar	Posted - 2008.01.20 19:58:00 - [6]
Calebes Gallente Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.20 19:58:00 - [7] I don't know what four year old vets deserve, but I sure know what this THREAD deserves. Lock. Modification. Deletion! For utter uselessness' sake!
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:00:00 - [8] As a 2 year vet I say yeah cool. I'd like to see them available but at the price of a genetic mutation meaning you can't train any further skill points. Instead you can re-manipulate your skill points every so often with the right expensive Jovian equipment and techniques.
Shwedagon Paya	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:00:00 - [9] Yet another jackass who thinks playing a video game for a long time means they deserve something special. "Veteran rewards" are one of the many reasons Star Wars Galaxies sucks so hard and no one wants to play it anymore.
Del Narveux Dukes of Hazard	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:00:00 - [10] Bad idea, vets get enough perks as it is. Anyway, I'm hoping that when they finally do get introduced, they'll be sufficiently gimped that theyre sort of a 'finesse class' if you will, great for doing whatever jovians do but not something everyone and his dog is gonna go out and train for. That being said, it would be cool if vets got some purely cosmetic toys, like an apoc shaped like a beer bottle or something. Other MMOGs are starting to do this as a little incentive to stay beyond the 8-month average or whatever it is now. _________________ [IMAGE REMOVED] -- aka Cpt Bogus -- Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?

CynWulf The Hellfire Club	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:00:00 - [11] LOL AT Ek... thats beautiful man... /me right clicks and saves as. [04:58:57] Azzloran > ever heard of a drake? you wont like them when they decloak on you
Jenny Spitfire Caldari SIVAKASI	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:03:00 - [12] I don't mind this proposal. Sounds kewl. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-
MasterEnt	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:04:00 - [13] That is not nice... Why dont those of us who have stuck around for so long deserve a little somtin' somtin' You will get there one day...
Shwedagon Paya	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I don't mind this proposal. Sounds kewl. Yeah, because you're the third or fourth owner of a four-year-old character.
Shwedagon Paya	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:07:00 - [15] Originally by: MasterEnt That is not nice... Why dont those of us who have stuck around for so long deserve a little somtin' somtin' You will get there one day... You do get something. You've had the opportunity to get on all the ISK-printing bandwagons, the opportunity to accumulate 60 million+ skill points, the opportunity to form and administrate a major alliance, etc. In other words, considering how this game works, the fact you've been playing for four years already is enough of a reward in and of itself.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari SIVAKASI	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:07:00 - [16] Shwedagon Paya, that is not the point. The point is within the in-game mechanics, any old characters should qualify. It is a continuity thing. I am sure you are smart enough to see why. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:07:00 - [17] There is also a non-player race, The Jove, which is there to ensure that there is at least one thread a week is created on the official Eve Online forums asking when the Jove will be playable. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. Tyrrax's bet status: UNPAID.
Shwedagon Paya	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:10:00 - [18] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire It is a continuity thing. I am sure you are smart enough to see why. I'm smart enough to see why people are eager to /sign anything that benefits them personally, yes.
MasterEnt	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:11:00 - [19] Originally by: Shwedagon Paya You do get something. You've had the opportunity to get on all the ISK-printing bandwagons, the opportunity to accumulate 60 million+ skill points, the opportunity to form and administrate a major alliance, etc. And you have started off with more money, better attributes, more skills, less requirements, better protection, nerfing and ISK you can buy. What would be the difference, you cant use items and ships until you take X amount of time to train it, so time is already an issue. Why not apply the same to races?
Shwedagon Paya	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:16:00 - [20] Originally by: MasterEnt And you have started off with more money, better attributes, more skills, less requirements, better protection, nerfing and ISK you can buy. More money: I'm not seeing all that free money, but if you say so, sure. Better attributes: Not everyone picks Achura, dude. More skills: Oh, wow, 800k SP to start off with. That's what, 15-20 days' head start? Requirements/protection/nerfing: Which you also have now. ISK you can buy: You have that now, too. And not everyone buys ISK.

Monty Kvaran Caldari Consolidated Sprocket	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:19:00 - [21] As a new player, I have no problem if a veteran wants a special jove perk - I propose you can have any character you want become Jove, that character will only have to pay 40M SP taken from thier highest ranked skills. Oh wait... the OP wants to have 60x more SP than a new player AND get special perks beyond that simply for being old? .
xyeLz	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:24:00 - [22] Originally by: MasterEnt Originally by: Shwedagon Paya You do get something. You've had the opportunity to get on all the ISK-printing bandwagons, the opportunity to accumulate 60 million+ skill points, the opportunity to form and administrate a major alliance, etc. And you have started off with more money, better attributes, more skills, less requirements, better protection, nerfing and ISK you can buy. What would be the difference, you cant use items and ships until you take X amount of time to train it, so time is already an issue. Why not apply the same to races? Yeah, cause starting with 900k skillpoints equals 60m skillpoints. And starting with 500k equals the isk you were able to make in the past 4 years that gives you an advantage over new players. And your in-game experience equals that of a new player. Oh wait, the other way around.. My bad. That said, 'nerfing' (how is that an argument?), better protection, less requirements, isk you can buy, it all applies to you as well. The fact that you even mentioned 'isk you can buy' is just another argument that totally destroys the 'we've played for 4 years, we deserve it more' reasoning. Why? Cause you can grind for 6 months and buy a 48 month old character, or just buy isk and buy one. Then those who do not deserve it get to play this extra race, while others don't. This'll just further widen the gap between new players and uber players which will ultimately destroy EVE in a few years, when people with 500k isk and 900k skillpoints can be wardecced by a corp worth in total 50b isk with in total hundreds of millions of skillpoints (among its members). EVE is fun as it is, and having played for 4 years has a massive advantage over new players. Else you'd probably not be playing on your 4 year old player, but just made a trial account every 2 weeks, according to your logic. My last post, as I like to help others go from (what I see as) wrong to right.. But if you won't accept it, then I won't try. That said, I'll bet 500billion dollars on it that CPP won't ever do this, so it's not worth any more posts from me. Fly safe
Tasuric Orka Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:31:00 - [23] Originally by: MasterEnt If they are ever made available. We deserve it, Nuff Said Then we shall Nano it, and be completely invulnerable to everything! ________________________________________________ Currently training for "caldari overlord I" Thank you ccp!
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:34:00 - [24] CCP would have to be so careful if they where ever to introduce the Jove because SWG set the precedent of having a hard to obtain uber race and look how that turned out. To become a Jedi was very difficult and the char could suffer perma death, lots of people began to figure out how to become Jedi but then whined about perma death, so they removed perma death but people where whining they couldn't become Jedi so bit by bit they made it easier to become one which upset the people who used the older more difficult methods. ----------------------------------------------- My new years resolution is to give up nonconstructive posting
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:35:00 - [25] Hmm, play for four years and then you too can play a race that die for no reason. ---- Anything less is wasted effort
UGWidowmaker Caldari Setenta Corp INVICTUS.	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:37:00 - [26] i actually sugested something similar, just with skill points instead-- i would ofc say yes to this idea also... BUT whatabout letting people with 80 mill sp get the ability to become jove, AND in the process loose all skill point, and start in the jove world fresh.. normal players should not be able to enter jove space BUT one day the border is open-- and a new war can start.. JOVES versus the rest.. mmmm now this idea i would FULLY indorce.. this idea would also make some people not wanting to go jove as they cant fly anything but frigs again hehehe.. but theresso many other positive sides to this.. like u wouldent see many macro miners in jove land.. i doubt the farmers have 80 mill sp yet :) OMFG I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
Orb Lati Minmatar Cold-Fury Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:46:00 - [27] Better yet. A player can become Jove after a certain skill point level. but in doing so they lose their current ship command skill points, and Jove Characters (due to their genetic defect) cant be cloned and suffer perma-death. "We worship Strength because it is through strength that all other values are made possible"
Riho Drop of Blood	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:47:00 - [28] Originally by: Ek Onkar epic win ---------------------------------- This is Me
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.01.20 20:58:00 - [29] I like the idea of being able to become jove if they are permi death :P or can't be ungraded so you lose your sp no matter what !
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.01.20 21:03:00 - [30] Make the promised land only available for the jews we deserve it. I want you to read what you typed and read what I typed and notice the similarities

Montague Zooma Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.20 21:13:00 - [31] I want a pony.
Kiiikoooloool	Posted - 2008.01.20 21:19:00 - [32] i want to be ride by a poney
Inertial Blood Reavers	Posted - 2008.01.20 21:33:00 - [33] Why not have a 80 million SP needed to become a Jove, and then your character got a 99.99999999999999999999...% chance of catching the Jovian Disease. If they do (which they will) they looses all will to live and dies! Perma death. That would be awesome! TBQFH These threads that some people make that say that old players should get so and so because they have played a long time annoys me. If you are going to make a demand, at least ask for a hooker or something. * Reavers are recruiting
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.20 21:36:00 - [34] Erm... to the op, what exactly do u want? to be a Jove? to have Jove stuff? to live in Jove space? what? btw, i will be 4 years old come april and i think this is a bad idea in general tbh. CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Troye Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.01.20 21:37:00 - [35] I'm a 3 year old vet, what do I get? Anyway vets already have an awsome reward: Carriers. Nuff said.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.01.20 21:52:00 - [36] Originally by: Troye I'm a 3 year old vet, what do I get? Anyway vets already have an awsome reward: Carriers. Nuff said. The concept of the capship alt escapes you yes?
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.01.20 22:07:00 - [37] Edited by: Tarminic on 20/01/2008 22:07:06 Rewards for veterans that affect anything in-game is a dumb idea. Why? You already have 60+ Million SP, more than 90% of EVE's population, and four years of experience. Regarding how hard it was for players "back in the day," don't bother with that argument because even with the advanced learning skills now and 20% better attributes, it would take fifteen years for a player starting now to catch up to a 4-year vet. So quit whining. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.01.20 22:18:00 - [38] Being around 4 years doesn't mean you don't suck. _______________________________ Complex Fullerene Shards; why God? :\|
Lady Branwen Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.01.20 22:19:00 - [39] Edited by: Lady Branwen on 20/01/2008 22:19:18 I think being a 4 year old vet you should have the choice of being carted off to Jove space (kicking and screaming if nessasary) of course Jove space restrictions would apply to you as well, so no returning to the rest of space, ever, i think this is a great idea and if 4 yr old chars want it they should get it, personally I won't be accepting the offer when the time comes, but I wish the OP all the best in his new geriatric home
Avery Fatwallet	Posted - 2008.01.20 22:35:00 - [40] in my book 4yo players can have their joves... as soon as your account is paid for four years, you get a new selectable race in char creation. lets see if op wants to play jove, then.

AlleyKat Gallente White-Noise	Posted - 2008.01.20 23:40:00 - [41] tbh, I really don't know why they do not let us play Jovians - they would make millions overnight, with everyone opening a new account to play a new race. AK. +EVE-ONLINE VIDEO TUTORIALS+
Orgos Khenn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.20 23:46:00 - [42] Jovians are meant to be the "big mystery", the Other People, the ships and people that everyone talks about. Handing out Jovian ships to any players, even "4 year vets" as if they are super-worthy of flying some kind of god-ship, would ruin that aspect of the game. Also - if you are honestly saying that a 4 year veteran has no advantages over a newbie, go look at your character sheet, check your wallet and your assets, and wake up. ----In before Jonny JoJo turns this into an Amarr whine----
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2008.01.20 23:49:00 - [43] Just make jove ships available and require frigates have all racial frigs to 5, cruisers need all racial cruisers to 5 etc etc etc Sure ccp can think up some new skills too that will require rediculous amounts of time... If we want to restrict the space. Make jove gates that can only be traveled through with jove ships . Dont have my heart set on the last part, but just an idea... ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most
Monty Kvaran Caldari Consolidated Sprocket	Posted - 2008.01.20 23:57:00 - [44] Introduce a new skill required to train any of thier skills, for every rank you train 20% faster (Rank 5 = regular learing speed)... BUT: each rank causes 10% of your total SP to be lost on death due to the genetic disease interfering with the cloning process .
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:04:00 - [45] Can I opt to play an Enheduanni instead? ---- Anything less is wasted effort
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:06:00 - [46] Originally by: Monty Kvaran Introduce a new skill required to train any of thier skills, for every rank you train 20% faster (Rank 5 = regular learing speed)... BUT: each rank causes 10% of your total SP to be lost on death due to the genetic disease interfering with the cloning process lol, yes. lets introduce an aspect of the game that to use will destroy months of skill training if you get podded even once. i'm quite sure no one would quit the game after a petition came back 'our logs dont show any..." ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most
Rilwen	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:07:00 - [47] Jove are probable tall, graceful and pointy eared, wield bows and arrows or an Eve equivalent, if you really want to play such a race this isn't the game for you, please see WOW
Croesus Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:11:00 - [48] 100 million sp to make a jove and you lose all sp in the making.
Savesti Kyrsst Minmatar White-Noise	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:11:00 - [49] Originally by: Montague Zooma I want a pony. I want a tech 2 nano-pony. Made of gold.
Orgos Khenn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:12:00 - [50] Originally by: Rilwen Jove are probable tall, graceful and pointy eared, wield bows and arrows or an Eve equivalent, if you really want to play such a race this isn't the game for you, please see WOW This. PS I lol'd so hard. ---- In before Jonny JoJo turns this into an Amarr whine

Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:13:00 - [51] Originally by: Rilwen Jove are probable tall, graceful and pointy eared They really aren't... ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:14:00 - [52] Make Jove accessible only for players whose name end with 'sz' !!!
Orgos Khenn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:15:00 - [53] Originally by: Sokratesz Make Jove accessible only for players whose name end with 'sz' !!! This! btw, my new alt is called Orgos Khesz. ---- In before Jonny JoJo turns this into an Amarr whine
Croesus Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:38:00 - [54] i like my 100 mill sp idea, because i like to achieve stuff without raising a finger.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:44:00 - [55] Originally by: Croesus i like my 100 mill sp idea, because i like to achieve stuff without raising a finger. I like the way you think
Ja'kar MAFIA	Posted - 2008.01.21 00:55:00 - [56] well make it so Jove ships are very hard to kill with dreads etc and let everyone in - or make it -10 (core) -5 outline systems players only - should be fun either way.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.21 02:09:00 - [57] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Can I opt to play an Enheduanni instead? This.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.01.21 02:35:00 - [58] I have read all the ideas about introducing jove and they are half baked and unimaginative
Taedrin Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.01.21 02:56:00 - [59] In Everquest they give you a gold name if you have a year's worth of logged game time...
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services	Posted - 2008.01.21 03:34:00 - [60] I agree. In fact, characters less than 4 years of age should have their ships self destruct immediately after being locked by a veteran. You know, as perks for buying an expensive character off the forums. It's only fair if it's completely unfair.

FuQue	Posted - 2008.01.21 03:44:00 - [61] Originally by: Jacob Castillo Why not 5 and you lose 90% of your total current SP? I would actually like this. A "choice" made for an semi-'end-game' of sorts. Call of Duty 4 has a similar idea with it's "prestige" points, and it seems to work out quite well.
FuQue	Posted - 2008.01.21 03:45:00 - [62] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss As a 2 year vet I say yeah cool. I'd like to see them available but at the price of a genetic mutation meaning you can't train any further skill points. Instead you can re-manipulate your skill points every so often with the right expensive Jovian equipment and techniques. Another cool idea :)
MasterEnt	Posted - 2008.01.21 03:57:00 - [63] Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad I agree. In fact, characters less than 4 years of age should have their ships self destruct immediately after being locked by a veteran. You know, as perks for buying an expensive character off the forums. It's only fair if it's completely unfair. Good idea... i like it. WoW, you guys need a f'in life. You get waay to mad. Sorry if your EVE character is your only accomplishment.
digitalwanderer Gallente Archon Industries	Posted - 2008.01.21 04:00:00 - [64] Originally by: Croesus i like my 100 mill sp idea, because i like to achieve stuff without raising a finger. If you ignore the 5 years of training skills,wich you had to make isk to buy the books and the +3/+4/+5 implants,wich were a lot more expensive in the past(400 to 500 million isk for each +5 implant before the recent addition of the LP shop),and above all else,5 years of subscription fees to CCP,wich probably isn't too far off 750$ in total. That would be me btw.....
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.01.21 04:04:00 - [65] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 21/01/2008 04:05:42 You are totally forgetting that you're not paying $ to CCP to have this or that, but to have fun, you know? Now, if you demand something for being a vet which paid 750$ to CCP, then we should surgically remove some 4 years of having fun in EvE from you Seriously, people, asking for extra stuff because you played a game for 4 years is lol. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
digitalwanderer Gallente Archon Industries	Posted - 2008.01.21 04:08:00 - [66] Originally by: Cpt Branko You are totally forgetting that you're not paying $ to CCP to have this or that, but to have fun, you know? Now, if you demand something for being a vet which paid 750$ to CCP, then we should surgically remove some 4 years of having fun in EvE from you Oh i'm fully aware of that,but along with those 4 years of fun,came a lot of changes,nerfs,re-training other races as the flavor of the month,server crashes,lag....You name it,veterans have put up with a lot of crap that would have made newer players quit by now. Just showing the other side of the coin so to speak...
Schani Kratnorr Internal Revenue Service	Posted - 2008.01.21 05:29:00 - [67] High SP characters are in some way like Jovians: from http://www.eve-online.com/races/jove.asp Quote: The most mysterious and elusive of all the peoples of EVE, the Jovians number only a fraction of any of their neighbors, but their technological superiority makes them powerful beyond all proportion. low numbers: check ability to use advanced and expensive technology: check Quote: But one fateful moment in their history made them lose this control for a few generations, and the results were catastrophic. some eve players leave, then come back to eve: check Quote: The disease within them keeps them in a reproductive straightjacket, preventing them from increasing their numbers sufficiently for their current empire to flourish. being nerds, eve players tend to never have intercourse: check
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.01.21 05:40:00 - [68] Originally by: Tarminic Rewards for veterans that affect anything in-game is a dumb idea. Why? You already have 60+ Million SP, more than 90% of EVE's population, and four years of experience. I'm approaching my 4th anniversary and I only have just over 50 mil. You're mean. And I say no. Originally by: DigitalCommunist Being around 4 years doesn't mean you don't suck. And for 1 Bil ISK I'll prove this. Contact me ingame with the system you'd like to meet in and your ship and setup. Chances are I'll still die with this info. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Anglo Minmatar Astral Mexicans	Posted - 2008.01.21 08:52:00 - [69] why ***** about some wanting to be jove ? lol anyway. i endorce the idea of becoming jove and would go 0 sp anyday to become one.. you see ever since the old players in the game started we have heard about the jove race etc.. hell some of us even fought em from time to time..` once i even made a corp who worshiped the jovian wargod in a RP corp- the jove goes deeper in somes mind than others, and that said i dont see why it shouldent be posible somehow to become a jove. its someones dream to be so.. and yes ccp could favour old players.. without them the new players wouldent be here u know ? if the ld players diddent pay gazilions of isk ower the years there would be no eve. and one day you can become jove to if u choose to so stop whining because some older players actually want the ability to go jove...
Fifth Horseman	Posted - 2008.01.21 10:02:00 - [70] Send all the Vets to jove space? YES PLEASE! No return tickets. --- Fanboi noun: 1)Person who thinks you should be happy that Eve just got a little bit worse. 2) Idiot. Fanboiz: Plural of Fanboi Doorknob: Collective noun for Fanboiz.

widgetman Aliastra	Posted - 2008.01.21 10:10:00 - [71] I will tell you something though................4 years ago the game was brilliant and you didnt get all the stupid whiners you get on forums like you do now complaining , and wanting things nerfed etc........ I seem to think that the average players age has become about 14 rather than 34 when i started.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.21 10:27:00 - [72] How about us last few beta2 vets still playing? What do WE get? It's great being Amarr isn't it.
Voodoo Dog Gallente Pilots of the Apocolypse	Posted - 2008.01.21 11:09:00 - [73] Originally by: Kuolematon How about us last few beta2 vets still playing? What do WE get? A free consultation with a psychiatrist maybe or a months free holiday in an asylum?? *I refuse to have a sig before I have a face*

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.01.21 11:10:00 - [74] For 5B ISK I'll create a jovian character with a name of your choice... Wonder how many veterans will start such services? Secure 3rd party service ■ the Love project

widgetman Aliastra	Posted - 2008.01.21 11:16:00 - [75] Well i bought the "Eve Art" book near christmas, when i saw some of the artistic creation that went into the Jovian race, (not just the ships that look brilliant) i felt that somewhere the other races look rather bland. I don't agree that the race should now become available to any players. It would be nice if we could however fight them now and again.
DJTheBaron Caldari FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.21 11:22:00 - [76] Originally by: Chribba For 5B ISK I'll create a jovian character with a name of your choice... Wonder how many veterans will start such services? For 4 Billion ISK I Will Create A Jovian Character With A Name Of Your Choice & Supply You With One Capital Ship You Choose To Spend The Next Two Years Training For. Pft and People Say Cribba Has The Best Deals "The Views & Opinions Expressed In This Post Represent Your Own, So Dont Bother Arguing" DJTheBaron: Diplomacy 4TW
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.01.21 11:25:00 - [77] I find all this vet hate amazing. If players like us didn't stick around for longer than 6 months there would hardly be an Eve. What is the issue anyway? jealous we got into the game before you? WTF? Anyway, some interesting ideas about Jove. I reckon one day it would be very cool to open up Jove space, make it hard to get to. Maybe offer some form of genetic engineering with a suitable and permenant penalty. No need to limit it to vets, but make it hard to obtain and something you would consider carefully before doing. I think it is something that should come a few more years down the track. After ambulation is out, after the faction war has raged and ended leaving the cluster completely changed. Could be very interesting. I'd like to see an Eve where the 'landscape' changes significantly. Interaction with the Jove is too significant to be done soon or lightly.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.01.21 11:32:00 - [78] Originally by: DJTheBaron Originally by: Chribba For 5B ISK I'll create a jovian character with a name of your choice... Wonder how many veterans will start such services? For 4 Billion ISK I Will Create A Jovian Character With A Name Of Your Choice & Supply You With One Capital Ship You Choose To Spend The Next Two Years Training For. Pft and People Say Cribba Has The Best Deals WILL CREATE JOVIAN CHARACTER FOR VELDSPAR! Secure 3rd party service ■ the Love project

Daelorn State War Academy	Posted - 2008.01.21 11:38:00 - [79] Posting in a pointless thread! I'm sure even before the devs want to think what the hell to do with Jove, we'll have chars approaching 200m SP. Whatever happened to Devs having Jove chars? I miss their ugly faces.
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.21 12:58:00 - [80] Nerf Ponies! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!

ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2008.01.21 13:29:00 - [81] Originally by: Daelorn Whatever happened to Devs having Jove chars? I miss their ugly faces. thats what fanfest is for. ahahahahahah<ERROR>Carrier Dropped Packet::0Ex032A_ User 'ry ry' Not Found In Database 'playrs.SQL'_ Please Check Your Input or Contact a GM_ [IMAGE REMOVED]
Shwedagon Paya	Posted - 2008.01.21 13:34:00 - [82] Originally by: Telemicus Thrace I find all this vet hate amazing. If players like us didn't stick around for longer than 6 months there would hardly be an Eve. What is the issue anyway? jealous we got into the game before you? WTF? No one hates you for being a veteran, at least not unless they're dummkopfs. However, I (because I can't speak for anyone other than myself) don't believe you're entitled to anything above and beyond exactly what you've already earned ù i.e., special trinkets and/or ships and/or characters.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.01.21 13:41:00 - [83] Originally by: Shwedagon Paya Originally by: Telemicus Thrace I find all this vet hate amazing. If players like us didn't stick around for longer than 6 months there would hardly be an Eve. What is the issue anyway? jealous we got into the game before you? WTF? No one hates you for being a veteran, at least not unless they're dummkopfs. However, I (because I can't speak for anyone other than myself) don't believe you're entitled to anything above and beyond exactly what you've already earned ù i.e., special trinkets and/or ships and/or characters. This. I have no problems with vets, but no one should have any additional advantages due to the age of their character. If you want something like a medal, that's fine, but it shouldn't affect anything in-game. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.21 13:46:00 - [84] In AO they had this fantastic Veteran Points-system where people who has paid for years of game got nice almost useless items. I wish EVE would somehow reward long customer relationship. It's great being Amarr isn't it.
SentryRaven KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.21 13:57:00 - [85] Make it based on account age. If you have been around for 4 years, fine, you can start a Jove character. What you gonna do with it? Train the same boring stuff that every other race has, in the (almost - not taking into account implants) same amount of time that you have made your other chars. Oh wow, big deal if they get a char. Compare it to RL if you like (bet you don't :) ), When I started to insure my car on MY own, I had to pay around 1600 EUR per year @ 140% insurance rate. Been driving long enough now and done special courses to have it lower to 70% over time. Been a good customer, no major accidents, no damages in the millions... don't I deserve to have my rates lowered? Apply the same to here.... you have been a loyal customer for 4 years on your ACCOUNT... here.. take this little 800k SP Jovian buddy, train all the crap you wanna play with it. Fly Amarr ships :) You know what... nevermind.... guess it's a moot point anyway.... With best regards, SentryRaven KIA Noobship Pilot
Crimsonjade Infected Below Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.21 14:20:00 - [86] Edited by: Crimsonjade on 21/01/2008 14:22:06 bah bunch of carebears tbh. only 2 things are needed 1. make a HUGE ISD event!!make it a huge event and make it HUGE not 12 ccp guys against 250 players.. more like 200 ccp employees make a surprise invasion somewhere in random space. a little random destruction is a good thing. ***** to make it happen and yeah some twits would whine. but seeing a Jove capitol fleet would make 99% of your player base go bonkers 2 make it so Chribba can mine in Jove space.. he deserves teh cookie
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2008.01.21 14:26:00 - [87] having been practicing in veterinary medicine for almost 7 years now i endorse this idea and want my free jove
MasterEnt	Posted - 2008.01.21 14:30:00 - [88] Originally by: widgetman I will tell you something though................4 years ago the game was brilliant and you didnt get all the stupid whiners you get on forums like you do now complaining , and wanting things nerfed etc........ I seem to think that the average players age has become about 14 rather than 34 when i started. No Kidding. I dont post much, I can see the decline of thought process in the company we keep lately. The funny thing is, everyone is complaining about something that either will never happes, or not be that good anyway.
StickyFingerz Dark Materials	Posted - 2008.01.21 14:43:00 - [89] 2 words, SWG, JEDI. no, just no. it will only end in tears.


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