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Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.01.21 21:07:00 - [1] Okay, I have searched hyena setups without out any success so here is a few notes from what I can find out. From what I hear, overheating mwd for 1 or 2 cycles may be relatively safe. So, I've included some data on it. Seems like the ship will give interceptors a run for their money. cheap setup: lows: 3 x overdrive ii mediums: 1 t2 mwd Speed: 4.9k Speed with overheated mwd: 7k Speed with command ship bonuses: 7.6k Speed with overheated mwd and command ship bonuses: 11k mild setup: lows: 3 x overdrive ii mediums: 1 t2 mwd rigs: 2x Polycarbon Engine Housing I Speed: 6.4k Speed with overheated mwd: 9.3k Speed with command ship bonuses: 9.9k Speed with overheated mwd and command ship bonuses: 14.5k Insane setup: lows: 3 x domination overdrives mediums: 1 domination mwd rigs: 2x Polycarbon Engine Housing II implants: slave set Speed: 12k Speed with overheated mwd: 17.3k Speed with command ship bonuses: 18.5k Speed with overheated mwd and command ship bonuses: 27.1k How do you all view this ship being used?
Dianeces Minmatar Repo Industries	Posted - 2008.01.21 21:13:00 - [2] Originally by: Perfect Diamond Insane setup: lows: 3 x domination overdrives mediums: 1 domination mwd rigs: 2x Polycarbon Engine Housing II implants: slave set Speed: 12k Speed with overheated mwd: 17.3k Speed with command ship bonuses: 18.5k Speed with overheated mwd and command ship bonuses: 27.1k How do you all view this ship being used? Snakes, not slaves. And I personally wouldn't dump that much isk into a frigate.
Cpt Cosmic	Posted - 2008.01.21 21:17:00 - [3] heavy neut will kill your expensive little toy very fast
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.01.21 21:21:00 - [4] Edited by: Perfect Diamond on 21/01/2008 21:26:11 Originally by: Dianeces Snakes, not slaves. And I personally wouldn't dump that much isk into a frigate. Oh, my bad, thats what I meant. Originally by: Cpt Cosmic heavy neut will kill your expensive little toy very fast Didn't know interceptors could fit heavy neuts. jk jk. don't go hostile on me. The ship seems to be close to perfect for anti interceptor role. It gets a web range bonus. The same rules that apply to interceptors would apply to this ship. Heavy neuts kill the ship insanely fast so don't get hit by one.
Cpt Cosmic	Posted - 2008.01.21 21:23:00 - [5] Originally by: Perfect Diamond Originally by: Dianeces Snakes, not slaves. And I personally wouldn't dump that much isk into a frigate. Oh, my bad, thats what I meant. Originally by: Cpt Cosmic heavy neut will kill your expensive little toy very fast Didn't know interceptors could fit heavy neuts. jk jk. don't go hostile on me. The ship seems to be close to perfect for anti interceptor role. It gets a web range bonus. The same rules that apply to interceptors would apply to this ship. Heavy neuts kill the ship insanely fast so don't get hit by one. well I thought you will use is as tackler instead of an interceptor ;) my bad but then there are much cheaper ships there that can kill interceptors very well ^^
Dromidas Shadowmoon Minmatar 54th Knights Templar Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.21 21:24:00 - [6] Going the speeds interceptors go, there is a very large chance of getting within 10k and getting webbed by the ceptor. And the ceptor will probably do a lot more damage than you. Hyena is pretty awesome for tackling HAC though, being far more agile than they are. It's pretty risky to solo tackle ceptors tho. _______________________________________________ Minmatar will always go faster than you, get over it.
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.01.21 21:27:00 - [7] Originally by: Dromidas Shadowmoon Going the speeds interceptors go, there is a very large chance of getting within 10k and getting webbed by the ceptor. And the ceptor will probably do a lot more damage than you. Hyena is pretty awesome for tackling HAC though, being far more agile than they are. It's pretty risky to solo tackle ceptors tho. Oh, and a domination web with ship bonuses can get 30km range and with command ship skirmish bonuses added also, it can get 40km range with webs. Don't know, but this might make it less of a problem?
AstroPhobic Minmatar Port Royal Independent Kontractors Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.01.21 21:33:00 - [8] I think it will go something like... 18km web range with EAF 4. 2x T2/Fleeting webs which is a 99% decrease in speed... assuming you can get within 18km and perma your tackling gear, all it should take is 2 standard launchers to do in a ceptor. That might be asking a little bit much of a frigate, and I'd be surprised if CCP allowed us such a ship. That being said, it's time that Minmatar got the best ship in class (of a new class). They certainly aren't getting any capital love.
Dromidas Shadowmoon Minmatar 54th Knights Templar Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.21 21:39:00 - [9] Originally by: Perfect Diamond Edited by: Perfect Diamond on 21/01/2008 21:27:49 Originally by: Dromidas Shadowmoon Going the speeds interceptors go, there is a very large chance of getting within 10k and getting webbed by the ceptor. And the ceptor will probably do a lot more damage than you. Hyena is pretty awesome for tackling HAC though, being far more agile than they are. It's pretty risky to solo tackle ceptors tho. Oh, and a domination web with ship bonuses can get 30km range and with command ship skirmish bonuses added also, it can get 41km range with webs. And with them overloaded it gets 54km range. Don't know, but this might make it less of a problem? If you've got a claymore in gang, then you definitely don't need any faction stuff. If you can get your web to even 25k you don't need to worry about intys hehe. I was thinking unmodified 18k web range, which can be a little risky (but still far in your favor of safely tackling) _______________________________________________ Minmatar will always go faster than you, get over it.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.01.21 22:50:00 - [10] Originally by: Perfect Diamond Okay, I have searched hyena setups without out any success so here is a few notes from what I can find out. From what I hear, overheating mwd for 1 or 2 cycles may be relatively safe. So, I've included some data on it. Seems like the ship will give interceptors a run for their money. cheap setup: lows: 3 x overdrive ii mediums: 1 t2 mwd Speed: 4.9k Speed with overheated mwd: 7k Speed with command ship bonuses: 7.6k Speed with overheated mwd and command ship bonuses: 11k mild setup: lows: 3 x overdrive ii mediums: 1 t2 mwd rigs: 2x Polycarbon Engine Housing I Speed: 6.4k Speed with overheated mwd: 9.3k Speed with command ship bonuses: 9.9k Speed with overheated mwd and command ship bonuses: 14.5k Insane setup: lows: 3 x domination overdrives mediums: 1 domination mwd rigs: 2x Polycarbon Engine Housing II implants: slave set Speed: 12k Speed with overheated mwd: 17.3k Speed with command ship bonuses: 18.5k Speed with overheated mwd and command ship bonuses: 27.1k How do you all view this ship being used? then you find a crow and watch the ship goes boom. also, your dps is hardly threatenning to an interceptor. things change if you pair up with, let's say, a blasterranis tho --- planetary interaction idea!
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.01.21 23:18:00 - [11] Originally by: AstroPhobic I think it will go something like... 18km web range with EAF 4. 2x T2/Fleeting webs which is a 99% decrease in speed... assuming you can get within 18km and perma your tackling gear, all it should take is 2 standard launchers to do in a ceptor. That might be asking a little bit much of a frigate, and I'd be surprised if CCP allowed us such a ship. That being said, it's time that Minmatar got the best ship in class (of a new class). They certainly aren't getting any capital love. Actually, it may not be that simple. Sorry, if I'm bursting your bubble. Certainly this ship is contending for the best ship of the class but the caldari one is also contending. Their purposes are totally different but very effective in the their own way. The kitsune is like a miniature rook, just like the hyena is a miniature version of the huginn. The other two ships are probably not contenders. I'm not to happy that the neutralizer range bonus leaves the amarr ship inside disruptor range while every other ship uses it's bonuses from outside. Also, whats the point of neutralizing a bs when they can just kill you cap with one neut? Seems REALLY dumb to me. At least with the curse we're outside their neut range.
AstroPhobic Minmatar Port Royal Independent Kontractors Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.01.21 23:30:00 - [12] Originally by: Perfect Diamond Originally by: AstroPhobic I think it will go something like... 18km web range with EAF 4. 2x T2/Fleeting webs which is a 99% decrease in speed... assuming you can get within 18km and perma your tackling gear, all it should take is 2 standard launchers to do in a ceptor. That might be asking a little bit much of a frigate, and I'd be surprised if CCP allowed us such a ship. That being said, it's time that Minmatar got the best ship in class (of a new class). They certainly aren't getting any capital love. Actually, it may not be that simple. Sorry, if I'm bursting your bubble. Certainly this ship is contending for the best ship of the class but the caldari one is also contending. Their purposes are totally different but very effective in the their own way. The kitsune is like a miniature rook, just like the hyena is a miniature version of the huginn. The other two ships are probably not contenders. I'm not to happy that the neutralizer range bonus leaves the amarr ship inside disruptor range while every other ship uses it's bonuses from outside. Also, whats the point of neutralizing a bs when they can just kill you cap with one neut? Seems REALLY dumb to me. At least with the curse we're outside their neut range. It seems to me that an interceptor-like ship with double web capability at ranges further than 15km has an edge over a paper ECM boat. Surely the kitsune and blackbird trod on each others' toes, and you can outpreform the kitsune at a higher cost. However, you can't simply pay more to get a better Hyena-like ship (Huginn won't get as fast, and has a much bigger sig). Again, I'm not sure if the Hyena can live up to this interceptor-like role, but if it can, I think it's a clear win of the class.
tarin adur Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.01.21 23:46:00 - [13] Tbh,i'd engage any hyena in my taranis without hesitation,soon as i got you webbed....your speed wont really matter. Hardly a ceptor killer....but i was in my vaga other day and i met wit ha 11km/s hyena....that scared the **** out of me
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.22 00:36:00 - [14] Originally by: tarin adur Tbh,i'd engage any hyena in my taranis without hesitation,soon as i got you webbed....your speed wont really matter. Considering the Hyena outspeeds the taranis and has double the web range the pilot would REALLY have to suck to get in your web range. -----
VB Sarge The Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.22 01:45:00 - [15] While they can be used as anti BS platforms, I don't think many people would put that on a definative to do list with one of these ships. As I see it, they are anti small ship ships... as in, anything HAC and smaller are definately at risk of getting hurt by these. The Hyena is definately a nano ship killer, in the fact, that it can take out the edge the nano ship has, and with even crappy gang support, will end the nano ship. As far as it being an anti interceptor, I think it is definately king of that role. If you can use heat, one pulse of heat on your MWD and dual webs would be all that's needed to grab the inty and slow them down. At that point, anything would pretty much instapop the inty, they are made of wet paper. While the Hyena might not have a tank other than speed, once the Inty is trapped by the webs, the Hyena could still travel fast, and stay out of the inty web range. It might not be the greatest solo ship, but for a small gang, it's a rockstar. www.the-bastards.com Ask me about recruiting options
Isonkon Serikain Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2008.01.22 02:16:00 - [16] I wouldnt be too scared of a hyena, tbh... But that's because I knoww what I'm doing. It definitely can be a good ceptor killer, but as someone posted... I can think of dozens of ships that make a good ceptor killer for much less than what's listed here... Heck, fit a Taranis with 2 polycarbs if you want to go all out... Now that's a sweet frigate killer... and cheaper too... As for killing vagas... As long as you can outpace the warrior II's, your hyena is a great vaga tackler... But then you might run into cap issues. No sorry, I'm not so impressed with the t2 EW frigs.
Maeltstome Minmatar D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.22 02:32:00 - [17] An experienced ceptor pilot will kill a hyena solo - but in a gang, they tend to blend in a little. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.01.22 02:33:00 - [18] True, there are some ships that may do better running them down. Another nice aspect is the scan resolution of the ship. Have 1 or 2 sensor boosters on it and you'll probably get something close to a lock time of under a sec.
tarin adur Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.01.22 03:41:00 - [19] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: tarin adur Tbh,i'd engage any hyena in my taranis without hesitation,soon as i got you webbed....your speed wont really matter. Considering the Hyena outspeeds the taranis and has double the web range the pilot would REALLY have to suck to get in your web range. There's alot more to ceptors then just simple top speed and web range, i can think of a 100 ways of getting that hyena into my web range, otherwise how would do i typically catch crows twice as fast as my taranis(and no,not all crow pilots are dimwits that hit the mwd and f1-f3.
Megan Maynard Minmatar Clearspace Operations Carpe Diem.	Posted - 2008.01.22 05:17:00 - [20] My hyena goes around 6200 m/s. My web reaches to 20 km. Overheated I can reach out and touch someone at 26 ish. The ship is good at tackling and staying alive against cruiser's on up. Against ugly caldari ships it has problems if they fit an assault launcher with good standard skills. Ceptors are tricky because most of the time they have the jump on you. (Gatecamps etc.) If you can get moving before the ceptor does you have a shot. Other wise say goodbye to your poly carb's. Fun ship, but ZERO dps. Pure gang warfare if you fly one.
Wardeneo Gallente N.E.O NEW EVE ORDER Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.22 09:59:00 - [21] Originally by: Cpt Cosmic heavy neut will kill your expensive little toy very fast yes but what intys have a heavy neut :p If brute force doesn't work..... your not using enough :)
Hollygun	Posted - 2008.01.22 12:04:00 - [22] Edited by: Hollygun on 22/01/2008 12:05:35 Well, i like my Hyena, waiting on a Gate with activated modules, wait till someone jump, lock that guy, orbit him with much speed + target painting + webbing + scrambling, and then a gang member in a co-op bomber bomb him down, killed much ships like that. What should i say, its a ship that is perfekt in its role, use it right and its effective like all the other ships.
Number 17 Caldari COLD-Wing The Fourth District	Posted - 2008.01.22 12:06:00 - [23] Originally by: AstroPhobic That being said, it's time that Minmatar got the best ship in class (of a new class). They certainly aren't getting any capital love. You mean besides having the most used solo ship in game, the most used hac in game, the most used force recon in game and one of the most used recon ships in game? Yea, it was about time minnie got a buff...
Vanessa Vale	Posted - 2008.01.22 12:56:00 - [24] Edited by: Vanessa Vale on 22/01/2008 12:57:09 Originally by: Number 17 Originally by: AstroPhobic That being said, it's time that Minmatar got the best ship in class (of a new class). They certainly aren't getting any capital love. You mean besides having the most used solo ship in game, the most used hac in game, the most used force recon in game and one of the most used recon ships in game? Yea, it was about time minnie got a buff... I hear ibises are quite popular too. So is fecal matter as billions of flies fest on it daily. You were trying to make a point there besides apparently making numbers out of nowhere?
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.01.22 13:36:00 - [25] Originally by: Number 17 Originally by: AstroPhobic That being said, it's time that Minmatar got the best ship in class (of a new class). They certainly aren't getting any capital love. You mean besides having the most used solo ship in game, the most used hac in game, the most used force recon in game and one of the most used recon ships in game? Yea, it was about time minnie got a buff... Yeah but to be fair, it's not like minmatar have a good PvP frigate. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.

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