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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:10:00 -
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Amusing.
The war has not yet lasted 24 hours, and allready the subhuman scum are outbeating even the most dedicated matari with their bongo skills.
Like the saying goes, the more primitive you get...
As for last night, and the incessant howling coming from ANTI:
The only engagement of note last night occured at the Amarr gate in Ashab, where I put an ANTI Thorax into structure whilst it ran for cover and jumped.
I am looking forward to a long war, but I doubt you have the nerve for that. ----------------------------------------------
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: MirrorGod on 24/01/2008 15:55:30 My stars do you people ever talk alot 
Heretic Army is continuing the campaign today, and we look forward to some good results today. Yes, we had them outgunned yesterday, big deal.
To number 17 and Cold Wing, they fought a good war, but it was a war in which Heretic Army had the advantage. I sat waiting for them to engage me in many cases. They picked on stragglers of the alliance and killed 1 of our BS's taking significant losses to take it down.
In response to posing a threat to the amarr system, I agree with Mr. Ixiris, we do not need to harm innocents, though I've been known to run some nighttime blackops to cut the throat of the odd clergy or holder, given that I get some dirt on them should they earn it. That's nothing special though.
I'll be honest with you all, myself and my pilots, we're combat pilots. This whole IGS game, I wouldn't call it our specialty. My boys can be a bit...zealous about combat, but I don't blame them. We did outnumber PIE, though I feel that if there was one thing our fleet did wrong, and I'll take responsibility for it, it was that we brought too much firepower in the final bout; where I initially asked for a shipup to 2 more Battleships, we actually deployed signifigantly more and that is my mistake.
But damn, do people ever love to talk.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris So to attract the attention of the Amarr Empire, we must kill thousands of innocents? I would rather a non-starter war, to be honest.
To gain the attention of PIE you need to threaten the Empire or its interest. This may mean threatening prominent holders' assets and killing thousands of innocents. Welcome to the horror which is war.
As far as I can tell your objective is to do damage to PIE and not the Empire, but even if you could force PIE to disband the Empire and its ideals would remain. The ideals that PIE stands for would remain.
But that is the last free strategic advice I give to what I consider little more than pirates.
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Ituralde
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
Originally by: Ituralde PIE, outgunned by Heretic Army? That's pretty hilarious actually.
Maybe you should read the whole thread. Or maybe you are just Jadeified too much.
Very well, the Tharrn test of reading comprehension. Let's see how well I do.
Quote: We saw your obvious trap, sprung it to see what you thought was a reasonable engagement, and decided that taking on seven battleships with one battleship and a mix of Harbingers and scouts was a silly proposition.
That sounds a lot like "outgunned" to me. Unless you think PIE should have stood and fought? Sounds to me like PIE made the right decision.
Now, it's one thing when you are against a large, well-organized force to get severely overpowered and outgunned. But against Heretic Army? Perhaps I'm a poor judge but... dear god that's pathetic.
Anyhow, if you care to see how "Jadefied" I might be perhaps you might make a better showing than a poorly fitted harbinger and agree to a duel? I'd be happy to take a little side-trip south and show you what the Fighters of the North are capable of. Then again, might be a bit embarrassing to get beat by a "Paper Tiger" would it not?
Perhaps you'd best scurry back under your rock and not muck about in the idle amusements of your betters. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
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Dzil
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dex Nederland
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris So to attract the attention of the Amarr Empire, we must kill thousands of innocents? I would rather a non-starter war, to be honest.
To gain the attention of PIE you need to threaten the Empire or its interest. This may mean threatening prominent holders' assets and killing thousands of innocents. Welcome to the horror which is war.
As far as I can tell your objective is to do damage to PIE and not the Empire, but even if you could force PIE to disband the Empire and its ideals would remain. The ideals that PIE stands for would remain.
But that is the last free strategic advice I give to what I consider little more than pirates.
Perhaps, Dex. Perhaps to some, though, the defeat of an organization that claims it is favored by God would challenge the faith of the Empire in such self proclaimations. At least for some.
But what I don't like about all this, is that PIE is being singled out and targeted not based on claims of its crimes against humanity, but based on the beliefs that its members hold true. It's rather hypocritical, all things considered - I would have expected more from a group that supposedly doesn't believe in God, than to declare war on it. Perhap all those boosters have erased logic and reason, leaving only animalistic bloodlust. Perhaps they simply hide their true intentions, and seek to exploit the pride of PIE through defacation of the Amarr religion.
I have a feeling we'll see PIE pitch a real battle soon. It should prove most interesting to see how the chips fall.
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.01.24 18:22:00 -
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It is called sleep cycles Ituralde.
We could have returned to base, reshipped, and probably taken their fleet.
But they were not important enough for pilots who had been up all day doing more important things like defending the bleak lands to stay awake for.
Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public' |

MirrorGod
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.01.24 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: MirrorGod on 24/01/2008 19:27:05 Edited by: MirrorGod on 24/01/2008 19:26:14
Originally by: DzilTabble Rabble rablle Rabble...
But what I don't like about all this, is that PIE is being singled out and targeted not based on claims of its crimes against humanity, but based on the beliefs that its members hold true. Rabble rabble rabb...
Originally by: MirrorGod
Banter banter banter...
[This part:]
...But now we're back to business...and our business is the death of oppression, the slavery, the bigotry; Our business is a knife in the back of the corruption that you worship.
Banter banter banter sexy logo...
Kthx.
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Dzil
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.01.24 20:20:00 -
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Well, forgive me, must be the framing class I recently took, but I read it like this:
Quote: I declare war on God [Image Removed]
Of course, snip some words here, bold face a few words there, the meaning of the message may change drastically. The Caldari are no strangers to the concept of spin, I assure you ;) But, if you wouldn't mind answering the question, why do you choose to declare a war against a being you deny exists?
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.01.24 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dzil Well, forgive me, must be the framing class I recently took, but I read it like this:
Quote: I declare war on God [Image Removed]
Of course, snip some words here, bold face a few words there, the meaning of the message may change drastically. The Caldari are no strangers to the concept of spin, I assure you ;) But, if you wouldn't mind answering the question, why do you choose to declare a war against a being you deny exists?
I intened no spin, just meant to shorten things up to get to my point.
The problem is, while God doesn't exist, he is real. They have made him real, God is a tool that drives thier politics, drives the corruption.
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Ituralde
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri It is called sleep cycles Ituralde.
We could have returned to base, reshipped, and probably taken their fleet.
But they were not important enough for pilots who had been up all day doing more important things like defending the bleak lands to stay awake for.
Yes, and normally I'd accept that but...
Heretic Army? Seriously?
That has to smart on the pride a bit you know? I guess if it was a credible organization - well, I'm sure you get the idea. Granted, I have little charitable to say about PIE, but damn, you all are better than that. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.01.24 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: MirrorGod on 24/01/2008 22:18:42
Originally by: Ituralde
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri It is called sleep cycles Ituralde.
We could have returned to base, reshipped, and probably taken their fleet.
But they were not important enough for pilots who had been up all day doing more important things like defending the bleak lands to stay awake for.
Yes, and normally I'd accept that but...
Heretic Army? Seriously?
That has to smart on the pride a bit you know? I guess if it was a credible organization - well, I'm sure you get the idea. Granted, I have little charitable to say about PIE, but damn, you all are better than that.
-_0 This high-n-mighty Tri grunt has some nerve. Perhaps you should consider the remote possibility that maybe, just maybe, we have a clue what we're doing. 9 months of organized fleet ops, piracy, gate camps and skirmish warfare speak to some degree of experience. Seriously, do I know you or something?
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri It is called sleep cycles Ituralde.
We could have returned to base, reshipped, and probably taken their fleet.
But they were not important enough for pilots who had been up all day doing more important things like defending the bleak lands to stay awake for.
Enough of that, Admiral.
No need to spoon feed the criminals useful intel.
Oh and to the criminals:
Keep the Faith. ----------------------------------------------
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Drama Kirlan
Dichotomy
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Posted - 2008.01.24 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris So, the great Evanda Char, the loser of Onga Gate, is trying to tell us how to fight? That's rich.
You tread very thin ice here Andreus as I was at Onga as well. Perhaps we should bring up your examplar record of combat under our flag.
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Our intelligence officers, as usual, were entirely correct.
You need intelligence officers to tell you that your foe might be adverse to engaging a better equipped force?
Heres some quick PR advice. Get a fight where you are the underdogs and win then come and crow about it. Or better yet dont crow and be civil instead of petty mud slinging
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.01.25 00:27:00 -
[104]
I have a suggestion for the Heretic Army:
The Amarrian 7th Fleet, having proven themselves incapable of protecting their own assets in the Bleak Lands, have begged for assistance from paramilitaries such as PIE, and PIE has agreed to protect them. Perhaps when you are unable to find PIE forces willing to engage you, you might consider directing your attention to their client, instead.
After all, if they argue that they feel no driving need to engage you because you pose no threat to the Empire ... here's an opportunity to change that equation. These assets are quite vulnerable, their defensive squadrons are rather laughable, and the loss of enough of them could prove to be disasterous for the Amarr Empire ... and perhaps a bit embarrassing to PIE, as well.
I'd be happy to provide you with any information you need in pursuing this.
-- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services
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Grr
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2008.01.25 00:38:00 -
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I warn you and anybody else who might consider attacking Amarr installations in The Bleak Lands. We will defend them by any means neccersary.
Epitoth Fleetyards is Recruiting
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Madam Dinahkarr
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.25 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: MirrorGod Heretic Army was born in discontent; discontent of racism... ...censorship and oppression.
Unfortunately, Mr. Mirror, the very thing you dislike seems to be all that you stand for. You claim that you and your organization hate racism, yet that is all you express towards the Amarr Religion. You dislike censorship, yet you are attempting to censor out religion. You hate oppresion, yet you feel the need to oppress anyone--... I'll be generous and say PIE Inc for the time -- who believes in God. Being incapaple to think up a better word or phrase; you sir, and your organization, come off as hypocrites.
Do not misunderstand me -- the Amarr Religion needs some changes to be made, and changes will eventually come about. God and religion, however, does not need to be wiped out due to your impatience in waiting for change.
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Avel Kereka
Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.01.25 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dzil Perhaps, Dex. Perhaps to some, though, the defeat of an organization that claims it is favored by God would challenge the faith of the Empire in such self proclaimations. At least for some.
Amarrians do not equal God. We are not God. We are not invincible. God does not give us +9000 armour. We are the ones responsible for spreading God's word. If we fail, it is our failure and our failure alone. If we succeed, it is through our own faith and ability, struggling tooth and nail since time immemorial.
Okay? Okay.
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.01.25 02:47:00 -
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Edited by: MirrorGod on 25/01/2008 02:48:30
Originally by: Madam Dinahkarr
Originally by: MirrorGod Heretic Army was born in discontent; discontent of racism... ...censorship and oppression.
Unfortunately, Mr. Mirror, the very thing you dislike seems to be all that you stand for. You claim that you and your organization hate racism, yet that is all you express towards the Amarr Religion. You dislike censorship, yet you are attempting to censor out religion. You hate oppresion, yet you feel the need to oppress anyone--... I'll be generous and say PIE Inc for the time -- who believes in God. Being incapaple to think up a better word or phrase; you sir, and your organization, come off as hypocrites.
Do not misunderstand me -- the Amarr Religion needs some changes to be made, and changes will eventually come about. God and religion, however, does not need to be wiped out due to your impatience in waiting for change.
I am here to ask questions, to make you, one and all, question faith. Both the Amarr religion and culture are unquestionably described as both narrow and closed-minded. We intend to open some minds, perhaps. The traits you applied could easily be applied to anyone. By fighting something that preaches so much hate, you ultimately become hate. War itself is an art of violence, and will very easily suck you into it. I accept this willingly, I'm not phased by it. Yes I have alot of hate and scorn built up from all my encounters with the amarrians growing up. It's made me what I am. But a hypocrite? Far from. If you want to believe in a god, well, I believe in freedom of religion, that's fine. But once you start forcing it upon others, putting others in chains for your religion, as the amarr culture and religion dictate, and as PIE protect, then therein lies the issue. That is the cancer which I wish to cut out. Other than that, pfft, doesn't bother me all to much if you wish to believe in a lie. But let if affect your own life, and only your own.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.01.25 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Grr I warn you and anybody else who might consider attacking Amarr installations in The Bleak Lands. We will defend them by any means neccersary.
Grr, let me assure you that we intend no such thing - your ability to correctly identify exactly what ship types we were flying from a distance of five kilometres left us shaken and intimidated. ----- "I am prepared to meet my maker; whether my maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." |

Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.01.25 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Grr I warn you and anybody else who might consider attacking Amarr installations in The Bleak Lands. We will defend them by any means neccersary.
When do you intend to start? I have personally seen to the destruction of some ten or so installations, with no sign of any but token resistance from the vaunted Saracens.
-- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services
At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today! |
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.01.25 11:54:00 -
[111]
Becq - colour me interested. The thought of blowing up Imperial Navy assets fills me with the sort of sadistic glee I haven't felt since that time back at CASS where me and Orun switched our chemistry teacher's curry powder for rubidium. Didn't get the curry stains off the walls for three months. ----- "I am prepared to meet my maker; whether my maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." |

Orun Erajen
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Posted - 2008.01.25 11:56:00 -
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And when CONCORD comes looking, will you blame the destruction of Imperial Navy assets on me as well, Andreus? Do you know how hard it is to remove congealed curry from duraplastic? Have you any idea at all?
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Ravin Abai
Amarr Cruoris Seraphim
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Posted - 2008.01.25 13:02:00 -
[113]
Mirror "God" (haha!) you claim to have encountered Amarr in your youth, and your association with bloated and venal Sani Sabik alliance has certainly given you a bit of experience dealing with Amarr in adulthood.
Through all this time have you not learned that True Amarr posess an unshakable will, a sense of purpose that is impervious to adversity? I might be a Blood Raider, but even my former collegues in PIE will agree with me on this point. You cannot change the Empire by "cutting out the cancer" of the Amarrian religion, as you put it. When challenged, Amarr band together, they do not scatter and break.
Change in the Empire, for better or worse, must come from within. Your war will accomplish nothing.
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Koshmarnaya Akula
Ebon Seraph Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.01.25 22:36:00 -
[114]
So have you found God and engaged him in battle yet?
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.01.26 00:13:00 -
[115]
Obviously, Loyalists assume that the title tells them everything they need to know about a topic. However, a cursory inspection of the thread will reveal:
Originally by: MirrorGod ...but God doesn't exist, and the idea of any emperor is laughable. So I think it's time for the bullet in the head of the god-warriors known as "PIE".
And on that note, so far, we've been able to inflict greater losses to PIE than they have to us, both in terms of number of ships destroyed and monetary damages inflicted. So far, the only person who has been the least bit gracious about their losses was Merdaneth, who was able to savage one of our interceptors before losing his Crusader, and get my cruiser into structure before he went down. However, he was kind enough to acknowledge that he'd actually lost, rather than the rather banal smacktalk that other PIE members have given us. I thus felt it my duty to return the courtesy by making public note of my respect for the impressive resistance he'd put up.
Thusly, Merdaneth now has the somewhat dubious honour of being the only member of PIE for whom I have some ammount of respect. ----- "I am prepared to meet my maker; whether my maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." |

Koshmarnaya Akula
Ebon Seraph Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.01.26 01:17:00 -
[116]
Well thats disapointing.
The title had me convinced this was something new and interesting.
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.01.26 01:52:00 -
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It is generally not a good idea to make such public noise out of what is a meaningless tally of death.
Especially as such a tally is no longer in your favor.
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.01.26 11:49:00 -
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Mr. Ixirus, I do not need or want your respect.
I merely desire you to let go of all the hate in your blackened heart and accept The Lord as your saviour. You seem bent on solving all the universe's problems through violence and destruction. That is why I passed you the Pax Amarria, the book you destroyed without even bothering to read a single page.
The Pax Amarria holds much wisdom about peaceful ways to achieve one's goals. It is not a Book of God, it is a Book of Peace. The Pax Amarria does in no way forbid or discourage the use of force, it merely uses reason to temper its application.
PIE does not declare wars for trivial reasons. It uses force when and if necessary. By MirrorGod's own words he declares war for the 'pretty explosions'. Does that seem like wisdom to you?
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Hoggs
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.01.26 14:41:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Merdaneth By MirrorGod's own words he declares war for the 'pretty explosions'. Does that seem like wisdom to you?
Oh c'mon now. Amarr ships are indeed pretty, but when they explode it brings a tear to one's eye. :')
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.26 22:37:00 -
[120]
I would like to address the criminal peon, and official member of the Heretic Army [ANTI], going by the livestock allocation callsign of Sahaquiel Faust.
Did no one tell you specific lasertanking would not work?
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