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Azrael Esangel Angel of War Cursed Nemesis	Posted - 2008.01.24 23:53:00 - [1] Ok so, i have a girlfriend, have been with her for about 2 months. the thing is she hates when i play EvE, she hates it when im even on a computer! now im in a spot, i dont wanna stop playing eve (thats just rediculis) but i dont wanna drive her away for spending to much time on Eve, that hard part is its hard to achieve anything in eve when your time is very limited! anyone got any idears? im sure theres a few married men out there that have this sorta problem. i will be thankful for any advice! comical approaches also welcome :D -Az --------------- "Vegeta what does the scouter say about Azraels DPS"...... "ITS OVER 9000!!!1!"
Leilani Solaris Gallente Auriga inc	Posted - 2008.01.24 23:56:00 - [2] When i first started seeing my gf i never played eve when she was here but nowadays she doesn't mind. As long as i have teamspeak on speakers and tell her what i'm doing so she can at least follow a bit she's ok with it, although she does get annoyed if i spend hours on it and ignore her
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2008.01.24 23:58:00 - [3] Just think of one of her pass-times that annoys you and tell her you'll give up Eve if she gives up said annoying pass-time. Seriously though, you're not going to spend every waking moment with your girlfriend are you? Just play Eve when she's not around. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Keorythe Caldari Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:11:00 - [4] First you have to ask yourself how much time you spend playing EvE per day. One or two, several, 12, etc? Compare that to what you would think is an excessive amount time in from of the old TV in one sitting. Go from there. Second, how much time do you spend with your GF? Everyday, 3 times a week, 1 per week. Does she always have to hang with you? Does she give you free time to hang with your own friends? Does she demand she have time to hang with hers? Go from there. There are just some relationships which aren't that healthy. If she hates you playing EvE then find out why. Does she think you are ignoring her? Does she think you're wasting your time playing a "silly game"? Does she want to micromanage her and everything you do? She might be hawt but if she isn't willing to compromise on some things then you're better off looking for a new GF. And yes unless you are a complete hermit you can find another fairly easily. You can always alt-tab and go to Date.com to fill out an application there while you're mining Veld.
Azrael Esangel Angel of War Cursed Nemesis	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:11:00 - [5] The thing is i live on a military base and... wel... i do spent most of my time with her, shes also military and she hangs in my barracks because it got the tv/queen bed/kitchen, so it does make it had to find time when shes not around... chloriform? --------------- "Vegeta what does the scouter say about Azraels DPS"...... "ITS OVER 9000!!!1!"
Khemical Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:11:00 - [6] Just combine the two. Have her go down on you during a fleet op and make sure to have comms on the whole time. Or not, but seriously, if she hates it that much, cut her loose and find someone who isn't so hardcore against it. If she hates eve and your time on the computer now, it isn't likely to get any better down the road.
Azrael Esangel Angel of War Cursed Nemesis	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:15:00 - [7] well, she never really minded that much, theni had to do a fleet op which took up about 4 hours of my saturday, from then on its been hard. im down to playing about 1 solid hour if im lucky, its hard to get all the stuff you need to get done in 1 hour! --------------- "Vegeta what does the scouter say about Azraels DPS"...... "ITS OVER 9000!!!1!"
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:17:00 - [8] Just give the appearance that you are either cutting back or spending more time with her. Do things like, play eve every other day, but maybe play a bit longer, Buy her stuff etc etc
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:27:00 - [9] Like Reaper said- just play it when she's not around. I bet my gf would be pretty **ed if I played for hours and hours while she's about; I just play when she's not here. And if there is never a time when she's not there,and you've only been going out for 2 months...well...you know what you've got to do... ------ Originally by:** CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
Avery Fatwallet	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:29:00 - [10] Originally by: Khemical Or not, but seriously, if she hates it that much, cut her loose and find someone who isn't so hardcore against it. If she hates eve and your time on the computer now, it isn't likely to get any better down the road. i dunno.. it got better in my relationship... it wasnt easy... maybe im unlucky but i think most women (especially the younger ones) tend to be attention *****s. so anything that can steal your attention is THE EVIL. just talk about it to her. that you love eve as much as other people love "real things" like puppies or meeting friends. if she doesnt want to understand, no matter what, i guess youll have either some work or a new gf coming up.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:31:00 - [11] Or just stop playing Eve. It's a computer game for goodness' sake. It's not worth it. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Azrael Esangel Angel of War Cursed Nemesis	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:36:00 - [12] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Or just stop playing Eve. It's a computer game for goodness' sake. It's not worth it. Never speak to me again. seriously though i dont play it that much, but thats allready to much! might just have to start nanoeveing (laptop in bed midle of night/laptop in toilet taking a dump) --------------- "Vegeta what does the scouter say about Azraels DPS"...... "ITS OVER 9000!!!1!"
Cybarite Gallente Aristotle Enterprises	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:48:00 - [13] convince her to make a trial account, one of my corpmates went that route, now she and him are working on revising our recruitment strategy. If she thinks that EvE is silly and you should be doing something else for no apparent reson you may have to break it off, not because of EvE but because she'll never get you. If she thinks you're not doing enough with her coopt her into EvE then you'll be doing something you enjoy with her and you'll both be happy. ... Why do I PvP? Because I love the feeling I get when I see the pretty lights and know that someone somewhere is screaming incoherently at their computer screen.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.01.25 01:17:00 - [14] Solid advice in this thread. At the end of the day, EvE is your hobby, just like fishing or cycling or whatever. She should respect that. If you're spending every minute of your free time on the game, then yeah, cut back for your sake if not hers. If you're blowing off opportunities to go to the cinema/beach/dinner to play a game, then you're just mad. But if she's just watching TV or whatever, then what the hell - she's watching your channel, you're watching yours (yours just involves more mouse clicks). CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Riethe Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen	Posted - 2008.01.25 01:30:00 - [15] My girlfriend is Chinese, so I'm teaching her how to fly a raven from belt to belt and farm ISK for me. Actually, I haven't gotten her to sit down and play yet, but she's watched me play and she's let me install EVE on her laptop and such. The point is, if a woman tries to change you and take away the things that make you happy, like hobbies and such, she doesn't deserve you or your company. A woman that thinks she's going the be the sole source of happiness in your life is very naive. That kind of behavior or mentality should not be rewarded. On the other hand, however, if your addiction to EVE is so strong that you're unable to take care of your girlfriend, mentally, physically, etc, then perhaps it is you that is not right for her. It's your responsibility to maintain a certain amount of balance between your hobbies and your additions and your significant other, and it is her responsibility to respect your hobbies and additions as well.
Maraude Fury Minmatar Shadow Of The Light Scorched Earth Directive	Posted - 2008.01.25 03:27:00 - [16] Edited by: Maraude Fury on 25/01/2008 03:29:06 How would she react if you threatened to leave her over her watching TV. EVE is just a hobby. All hobby's take time. Would she rather you were down at the local strip club slipping loonies and toonies into the strippers....uhm.. anyways. If she is annoyed at the time that you are spending in eve, and not with her, that's one thing. If She's expecting to get more then 50% of your free time, that's another. You've only been going out 2 months. Easy to break it off with her. Women are easy to come by. Good ones are harder to find. The GREAT ones, will come along only a few times in your life. Myself, my Wife is happy that I'm at home, on the computer, where she knows where I am/what I'm spending my money on, and not down at the local bar/club where she has no idea what I do. I could be like a lot of the guys I know, who spend 2-3 nights a week down at the local bar with thier buddies. Tell your GF that EVE(And MMO/Games in general) are part of your life. And if she can't deal with that, then you have no future together. **EDIT A loonie is slang for a Canadian one doller coin, as it had a picture of a Loon(A bird) on it when it first came out. A Toonnie is slang for a Canadian 2 doller coin. Named because of it's denomination. Dictator: Scorched Earth Directive Alliance Dictator: Shadow Of The Light Corp
Azrael Esangel Angel of War Cursed Nemesis	Posted - 2008.01.25 03:51:00 - [17] Solid advice here guys, i dont play to much eve, and i love the game alot, keep the advice flowing in guys! some of its funny as hell! im sure there a few of us out there that can use the advice! -points for epic advice failures --------------- "Vegeta what does the scouter say about Azraels DPS"...... "ITS OVER 9000!!!1!"
Alvar Ursidae Amarr Oceanic Soldiers of Fortune Black Scope Project	Posted - 2008.01.25 04:08:00 - [18] She needs to accept you for you, as you are. If she is trying to change you, talk to her, and see if it's worth it. I have been with my wife now for 16 years, and she and I have different interests, and they give both uf us 'US' time. We do a lot together, but relationships also need space to grow. So if she can't accept you have friends in the game, and use it for what ever reasons you use it for apart from fun itself, then she needs to understand and accept it's part of you. And if she can't then maybe go find someone who will not only respect you for who you are and what you do, but might appreciate it. Worst thing that happens is you get to bang this girl for a while, have a good time, and then find someone else to go out with who is either cool that you play eve, or cooler: plays eve as well. I am guessing you are younger in age than older, so it's not a major concern. I do sigs and stuff...http://alvar.eve-stuff.net
SeismicForce Clear Horizon Industries	Posted - 2008.01.25 07:40:00 - [19] Or get one that goes to bed by 21:30 because she has to get up at 5:30. That way you can play for a few hours before you go to bed Originally by: Allisie In a recent interview, a dev mentioned that ships and skills cause lag and will be removed in EVE 2.
mamolian Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.25 08:21:00 - [20] Argument I use.. If I was sitting watching TV all day there'd be no "problem".. so stfu about eve mmkay? -----------
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2008.01.25 09:09:00 - [21] My tip is you need to both have your own space to an extent. Keep it reasonable, and like others have said, tell her it's a hobby like fishing, or watching TV, or whatever other things blokes do. If she isn't happy with that then bring out the big guns ... you aren't drinking, gambling, taking drugs, down the strip joint etc. etc. Ultimately you have to think that if she takes you away from something you love doing after two months, where does it stop? Do you not get to do anything you want to do for the rest of your life or what?
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2008.01.25 09:18:00 - [22] After 18 years of marriage and 3 wives I can tell you this: Every time you find some hobby that you like and makes you happy, your girl will hate it. They will hate it just because you like it. They want your exclusive attention and will try to destroy ANY competition. The only 'tip' I can give you is to play when she's not around. Get a night shift if you wanna go extreme. There are of course exceptions. I have seen wives who play eve with their husbands every day and PvP real good too. But your chances are slim.
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2008.01.25 09:36:00 - [23] Originally by: Azrael Esangel Ok so, i have a girlfriend, have been with her for about 2 months. the thing is she hates when i play EvE, she hates it when im even on a computer! now im in a spot, i dont wanna stop playing eve (thats just rediculis) but i dont wanna drive her away for spending to much time on Eve, that hard part is its hard to achieve anything in eve when your time is very limited! anyone got any idears? im sure theres a few married men out there that have this sorta problem. i will be thankful for any advice! comical approaches also welcome :D -Az have a couple of computer game nights a week, and the others spend with her. it's only a computergame. [IMAGE REMOVED]
Miss Anthropy The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.25 09:41:00 - [24] Edited by: Miss Anthropy on 25/01/2008 09:42:24 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Or just stop playing Eve. It's a computer game for goodness' sake. It's not worth it. Why should he have to quit a hobby for some nag who doesn't have a life of her own? The only reason she doesn't like EVE is because it distracts the OP from giving her attention; which implies that she's needy and insecure. I'd dump her and find someone who doesn't need constant attention to make them feel good about themselves. Trust me, I've been here; you can give up all your hobbies and friends but it will NEVER make this girl happy. She's a leech.
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.25 09:46:00 - [25] just do what i did.. my gf is called eve (really!!) and i played eve (the game now) alot.. she used to complain i never went out with her, i went out more with her, met her firends 2 of her friends started to "like" me, i hung around with them more, even without my gf, she hated it, now she activily encourages me to stay in and play eve so she can keep on eye on me! hell she even asks if iv killed anything and any good loot.. bless she does try :)
Riethe Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen	Posted - 2008.01.25 10:10:00 - [26] Originally by: Shameless Avenger After 18 years of marriage and 3 wives I can tell you this: Every time you find some hobby that you like and makes you happy, your girl will hate it. They will hate it just because you like it. They want your exclusive attention and will try to destroy ANY competition. The only 'tip' I can give you is to play when she's not around. Get a night shift if you wanna go extreme. There are of course exceptions. I have seen wives who play eve with their husbands every day and PvP real good too. But your chances are slim. I'd say considering this guy has been married at least 3 times suggests you don't heed his advice. I think the fact that you've been through so many marriages and had so many similar experiences just shows that you've been picking the wrong women. If your woman demands all your attention and hates you being happy for any other reason than her, then she is far too codependent, needy, and insecure. Either you never paid any attention to your wives, or all the wives you've picked have been bad seeds. My woman does her own thing, has her own stuff going on, and doesn't mind me doing my own things separately as well, including playing EVE. She gets her attention and the relationship is kept healthy and active, mentally and physically. There's no reason to give up your things for her. Originally by: Xtreem just do what i did.. my gf is called eve (really!!) and i played eve (the game now) alot.. she used to complain i never went out with her, i went out more with her, met her firends 2 of her friends started to "like" me, i hung around with them more, even without my gf, she hated it, now she activily encourages me to stay in and play eve so she can keep on eye on me! hell she even asks if iv killed anything and any good loot.. bless she does try :) And you don't even realize how bad your relationship is from this? Look at it. First, she's insecure because you give too much attention to your computer, so she convinces you to back off of that and go out with her. Then, she's insecure that you're spending too much time with OTHER PEOPLE, and then settles for the "lesser" insecurity that she has, which is your internet space ships. You guys aren't helping him at all. I don't know how anyone can think these things are remotely normal. Yes, relationships involve a lot of compromise. But hobbies in moderation and actively enjoying yourself, SEPARATELY from your significant other, is completely normal. You don't have to spend every waking moment with your girlfriend, and if she thinks you do, your need to explain to her that you're two separate people, and you'd never try to take anything away from her, so why is she trying to do that to you? If she does not fully consider and act on the discussion you have with her, it's time to pack up and move on. Never settle, there are 6 billion other people to choose from. I guarantee there is someone else that is mature enough to understand you need time for yourself too.
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.25 11:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Riethe lots of text wow long reply there! yeah it is insecure, and we been together for 3 years and been friends for 10 and im her brothers best friend for 20 years.. so she knows me inside out, no matter what i do she is insecure so i'm just myself.. works best
Arvald Caldari Devilish Intentinos	Posted - 2008.01.25 16:11:00 - [28] Edited by: Arvald on 25/01/2008 16:10:48 umm...heres a stupid question...>_>..<_<....why are you playing eve instead of having sex? Originally by: Richard Phallus go and get someone to take a golf club and take a good swing at your nuts by surprise when you walk into a dark room some time. This will prepare you for eve's pvp
Maltitol Gallente Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.25 16:33:00 - [29] women come and go.. however if you are really interestedin contiuning to tap it, i suggest just log in to change skills, and keep her happy... then 6mth to 1yr down the road (if you havent gotten tires of the same old... thing), then slowly login and do what you need to.. POON comes first Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well boohoo
Leilani Solaris Gallente Auriga inc	Posted - 2008.01.25 16:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Riethe My girlfriend is Chinese, so I'm teaching her how to fly a raven from belt to belt and farm ISK for me. Rofl I just reported your post by accident, sorry. Bloody forum.
Azrael Esangel Angel of War Cursed Nemesis	Posted - 2008.01.25 20:18:00 - [31] so its 9:15 am and im a little hungover, last night went really really bad, so it was about 11pm and we have had a few drinks, were back in my room preparing for bed when my mate MSN's me. hes a good mate of mine and my missus and hes really drunk. he had told me some personal things that are happening in his life a few days prior, just somt stuff that guys talk about. now my miss had allways wanted me to tell her what it is, but im loyal to my mate so i wont tell her of course. now last night hes on MSN he starts drunkinly talking about it, my miss immediatley jumps on tyring to pretend shes me to get th einfo, when i come in and take over to tell him shes in the room with me, he realises and stops talking about it. my miss went insane, she stopped talaking to me, and within 5 minits she climbed out my barrack room window (there was some people drinking in the lounge so she diddent wanna go that way) and went back to her room, of where i have not seen her since.... WTF is wrong with her? --------------- "Vegeta what does the scouter say about Azraels DPS"...... "ITS OVER 9000!!!1!"
Ninketsu	Posted - 2008.01.25 20:29:00 - [32] Thats odd.. or not considering she is a womman after all. Ok the later part was odd. Wommen love gossip. And they do anything to get it ______________________________________ Gobling Artillery 1.Find a cousin. 2.Load the cousin in the cannon. 3.Find another cousin.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2008.01.25 21:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Azrael Esangel Ok so, i have a girlfriend, have been with her for about 2 months. the thing is she hates when i play EvE, she hates it when im even on a computer! now im in a spot, i dont wanna stop playing eve (thats just rediculis) but i dont wanna drive her away for spending to much time on Eve, that hard part is its hard to achieve anything in eve when your time is very limited! anyone got any idears? im sure theres a few married men out there that have this sorta problem. i will be thankful for any advice! comical approaches also welcome :D -Az If you are spending like 7 hours of your waking moments of the day on EVE, you have no ground to stand on. However, if you play on realistic amounts of time, just tell her you dont demand she turn the T.V. off just cause you want to go do something. As far as married, you get past that **** I am not spending my entire saturday trying on pants at the store. So I dont expect her to play eve with me.... HOWEVER AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT...YOU MUST AT LEAST MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO INVOLVE HER IN THE GAME. Women always want to share everything. Sharing means love or something. Try to share the experience. She most likely will not play, but she will allow you moments with the other girl (eve) since they have now been formally introduced. Which will produce some understanding that it has nothing to do with anything other than you really like playing the game. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Sainna Minmatar Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.01.25 21:41:00 - [34] Edited by: Sainna on 25/01/2008 21:41:56 Originally by: Miss Anthropy Edited by: Miss Anthropy on 25/01/2008 09:42:24 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Or just stop playing Eve. It's a computer game for goodness' sake. It's not worth it. Why should he have to quit a hobby for some nag who doesn't have a life of her own? The only reason she doesn't like EVE is because it distracts the OP from giving her attention; which implies that she's needy and insecure. I'd dump her and find someone who doesn't need constant attention to make them feel good about themselves. Trust me, I've been here; you can give up all your hobbies and friends but it will NEVER make this girl happy. She's a leech. Not all women are the same. Your experience with girl(s) must have been a harsh time in your life. For you to say that his girlfriend will do what you perceived your girl did is hypocritical and chauvinistic. Either she was overly possessive or YOU didn't do something right. To OP: Equal relationships requires the "give and take" approach (Compromising). Just because she wants some time with you does not mean she is overly possessive. If you are giving her time to spend with her friends but she does not reciprocate the gesture, then perhaps you may need to dump her. All humans require social stimulus, physical or non-physical, to remain sane for the most part. Too much can cause stress for most people, like myself. Others like a lot of social activity, but it does not mean they are "needy and insecure". Try to compromise with her. If she won't, that could be a quirk you may not need in your life. Unless you like to be dominated. --- Recruitment Thread
Elienee	Posted - 2008.01.25 22:24:00 - [35] So far all I read is YOU YOU and some more YOU.... That you dont even bother to talk things through with her, sort out your issues, but comes running here at a forum asking for advices, complaining on her, just suggest your not mature enough to handle a relationship. For god sake talk to her, tell her what you feel is improtant to you, and stop fishing around the issues. Learn to communicate with each other, which means that you BOTH need to understand what the other wants with your relatonship and what you expect of each other. If you cannot do that, then your realtionship isnt worth much, if you ask me......
Florio Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:51:00 - [36] Edited by: Florio on 26/01/2008 00:51:39 hehe i like this thread for some reason. married man here buddy. for a successful relationship, everyone needs their own time. she needs to understand that, as of course do you when she wants to do something without you. just point that out to her. as other people have said, just keep game playing to reasonable levels and spend some evenings without eve. or start watching TV with her and insist on programs she doesn't want to watch.... :)
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2008.01.26 02:31:00 - [37] Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 26/01/2008 02:34:58 Originally by: Elienee So far all I read is YOU YOU and some more YOU.... That you dont even bother to talk things through with her, sort out your issues, but comes running here at a forum asking for advices, complaining on her, just suggest your not mature enough to handle a relationship. For god sake talk to her, tell her what you feel is improtant to you, and stop fishing around the issues. Learn to communicate with each other, which means that you BOTH need to understand what the other wants with your relatonship and what you expect of each other. If you cannot do that, then your realtionship isnt worth much, if you ask me...... Good, now back on Earth: The fact that most girls (or persons for that matter) are not perfect doesn't mean that a relationship with them "isn't worth it". Many girlfriends and wives hate our hobbies so much to the point of jealousy. Trying to ôtalkö about the issue is often futile because their logic doesnÆt make sense in the 1st place. Asking for advice on the forums, where thousands of players have gone through the same thing is a good move, not an immature one. You still have to sort out the flames and the jokes but IMHO is the best place to ask. EDIT: Just wanted to add this: With all the divorce laws now days, if your wife doesn't like you, she can throw you out, keep the house, the car, the kids, child support and a fat alimony... so don't start with the whole "equality" issue Mkay...
Reto The Last Resort	Posted - 2008.01.26 05:36:00 - [38] Edited by: Reto on 26/01/2008 05:46:21 sometimes i have this problem too. i had some minor and some major arguments with her about it. ya know the ** where women leaving the room, reproachful silence, tears, questions like: "so doesnt i make u happy too?" "why u are playing all the time?" "i dont want to change u but ur rude so why dont u just understand that ur the ass here" "its just a dumb and childish game, why do u love this game more than me?" etc. all this crap is always the same. and yes 90% of all women are like that (except riehte, who is either just a lucky bstard or an genius of relationship psychology). yes women are very insecure and needy. they are often more kind of a problem than kind of an enrichment for ur life and ur happiness. and yes its also true that playing eve for 5 straight hours might be a lil mean if ur girl just came over to spend some time with u and getting her dose of love and care. however u as a male inhabitant of this planet HAVE TO FIGHT FOR UR RIGHTS WITH CLAWS AND TEETH. no matter what. women will try to change u. god made em so. its what the bible refers to as the 10th plague. its some sort of gods sense of humor. the most important part however is not to lose the objective point of view here. most women dont understand the male language if it comes to explaining ur male desires for online spaceships and why it is not a sign of disregard towards her if u take ur time and enjoy ur game. sometimes she will listen and understand. sometimes her feminine character will label ur effort to make her understand as pure disrespect. in that cases u have to make a stand. u are having a hobby and u WILL NOT ABANDON IT because of her insecurity and claim for ur attention! it is just fair that u can peacfully have ur time with something which enriches ur life in a way a woman cant. women have a lot of hot things to offer but they dont offer online spaceships for sure. u dont be rude tho. u should always know that ur girl has feelings and those are easy to hurt and very hard to heal. women tend to take even the slightest thing which could be understood as something violating for sheer evil and will be mad at u without any appearend reason. the reason is there, but a male being wont see it i can asure u this. thats the "woman - man, man- woman"-communications problem. so u have always to try it diplomatic and fondly. me and my girl know eachother for around 2 years now and still she sometimes starts this . it usually begins with her sitting in the same room and randomly asking me nonsense stuff while i am highly concentrated on my game (she provokes me to become angry that way, so she can cry about how mean i am). it is the same behaviour as cats. theyll come and sit on ur lap, meow, make noises and even bite u in the feet if they want ur attention. make her understand that its not the time. show her that u are playing and that u enjoy ur gaming session and that it would make u even happier if she would be so kind to let u finish ur game so u both could undertake something together later. if u have a girl who is a *y hen than ull have to make ur point of view very clear for her. it will maybe end up in tears and general celibacy but if shes not too self-centered shell understand that u wouldnt defend something which is unimportant to u and maybe finally realize that she would have been off way better not disturbing ur peaceful game and simply wait an hour for u to give her the care she deserves. Originally by:** s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
Radix Salvilines VENA GROUP	Posted - 2008.01.26 05:59:00 - [39] heh its all that simple... if u prefer to play eve than do something with a woman... either you are a ****** and no-one will help you (xaxaxa) or don't care for her much :) If you do care however and you feel you would sacrifice some game-time happily to make HER happy - go do it - satisfy her needs - make her confident she is number one. Once that is achieved i bet she will be happy to not make any blah blah blah about you playing eve. [Warning] There are some types of women with which this wont work... if it won't well... put your pants down and see if you have balls anywhere... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥-☻VENA☺-♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Gaunty Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.01.26 08:05:00 - [40] Call Dr.Phil.
Elienee	Posted - 2008.01.26 12:59:00 - [41] Originally by: Shameless Avenger Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 26/01/2008 02:34:58 Originally by: Elienee So far all I read is YOU YOU and some more YOU.... That you dont even bother to talk things through with her, sort out your issues, but comes running here at a forum asking for advices, complaining on her, just suggest your not mature enough to handle a relationship. For god sake talk to her, tell her what you feel is improtant to you, and stop fishing around the issues. Learn to communicate with each other, which means that you BOTH need to understand what the other wants with your relatonship and what you expect of each other. If you cannot do that, then your realtionship isnt worth much, if you ask me...... Good, now back on Earth: The fact that most girls (or persons for that matter) are not perfect doesn't mean that a relationship with them "isn't worth it". Many girlfriends and wives hate our hobbies so much to the point of jealousy. Trying to ôtalkö about the issue is often futile because their logic doesnÆt make sense in the 1st place. Asking for advice on the forums, where thousands of players have gone through the same thing is a good move, not an immature one. You still have to sort out the flames and the jokes but IMHO is the best place to ask. EDIT: Just wanted to add this: With all the divorce laws now days, if your wife doesn't like you, she can throw you out, keep the house, the car, the kids, child support and a fat alimony... so don't start with the whole "equality" issue Mkay... If your own talk have ended futile, you need to ask yourself, what did you and your girl do wrong? Did you at all communicate properlly? And yes, the famous "blame the other", when you cant sort out your issues. Im sry but if you want to sort out issues with somebody, you do it face to face with them, and not behind their back. That is like taking 3 steps backwards, speically if she finds out that you have talked behind her back. It seems to me that you and the OP, want to manipulate them to like your hobbies, which is so wrong approach. You cannot get everything in life, deal with it! I think its you who need to get down to earth, or should I say leave your PC and go into the real world....
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2008.01.26 14:22:00 - [42] Originally by: Elienee If your own talk have ended futile, you need to ask yourself, what did you and your girl do wrong? Did you at all communicate properlly? And yes, the famous "blame the other", when you cant sort out your issues. Im sry but if you want to sort out issues with somebody, you do it face to face with them, and not behind their back. That is like taking 3 steps backwards, speically if she finds out that you have talked behind her back. It seems to me that you and the OP, want to manipulate them to like your hobbies, which is so wrong approach. You cannot get everything in life, deal with it! I think its you who need to get down to earth, or should I say leave your PC and go into the real world.... But you seem to be under the impression that every problem can be solved by talking, just like on the TV. And if the talks fails, there must be a communication problem. That is just not true. I'm all for the talking. And to the OP, please, by all means, try to talk the situation with your partner. But sometimes (very often in fact) girls doesn't make sense and the solution to the problem at hand defies logic. Sometimes they just want you to show some balls, and if you comply to all their wishes and become her puppet, you fail. By your last comment about "going back to the real world" I guess you are already prejudiced against gamers. Kind of odd, given that this is a gaming forum. But I don't like to talk without the facts so before saying anything, please explain me something. What is this "real world" you are talking about? Please, enlight me.
Aram Thracius Amarr Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.01.26 20:35:00 - [43] maybe she's just nuts, have you considered that ? or she's just testing your patience, to see how much you'll put up with ------------------------------ We are all doomed!

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