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doctorstupid2 Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.01.27 03:48:00 - [61] Originally by: Trepkos there is only so much lack of skill that blobbing and ecm abuse can hide. right, like last time you came to play? yummy trepkos tears, delicious. Deadspace: Ishtar piracy
Don Z0LA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2008.01.27 05:00:00 - [62] Originally by: General Coochie bla bla bla im good as the old people no matter i dont have that much sp stuff couple of years ago people looked for fights, not ganks, and back then isk had much more value and was much harder to earn. Anti pirates did exist even before couple of years ago, you should not make such statements so surely when you are not informed well. im pretty sure majority of those old corps would still stand at least a class above majority of operating corps. Becouse those corps were made of players who could think and adopt/evolve, majority of those old players who are playing nowadays are taking lead part in their corporations and are known to be great pvpers. fighting against odds means couple of things, fighting heavily outnumbered, fighting from worse position, against enemy who is in advanced position etc. how do you know that in that old pirate movie those victims were not some who dont know to fit ship ? or you are generalising it all after couple of individuals ? 1.5 year ago your char was buying learning skills so please unless you can talk about something you were involved in, drop it. either post with your main. there were anti pirates back then, maybe not in all parts of eve but there was not either that much pirates in eve. you think anti pirates and other attackers didnt use ew, tacklers, dps ships in their blobs ? also i am not generalising for all, back then there was plenty of ****ty pirate corps aswell, but what i was pointing in first post aswell were famous for being great pvpers not just for doing some things first. m0o, spvd, teddybears, tundragon , sniggs, sorry if i forgot anyone were the names which made you scared for your ship. no one could go fully prepared against them knowing what will result of battle be. now majority of operating most famous pirate corps are most famous by their forum activity in forums. when anti pirates come, they are nowhere to be find, while in the old days anti fighters were source of fun, everyone liked that becouse that meant good fighting. nowadays they just want killmails to claim numbers of shuttles killed...
Trepkos Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.27 05:40:00 - [63] Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: Trepkos there is only so much lack of skill that blobbing and ecm abuse can hide. right, like last time you came to play? yummy trepkos tears, delicious. Yes, you would definitely know because you were there, right? -------- Recruit Me
Verone Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.27 06:28:00 - [64] Originally by: Don Z0LA ...nostalgia... TBH, I remember back when there were REAL anti-pirates, people like Celestial Apocalypse before all this insurgency crap, and when PIE used to operate down by Misaba (they still do afaik). That's when piracy and being a pirate was tough work to be honest, because if you saw those guys it was time to fight or GTFO. Still to this day I hold massive respect for those guys who still run Insurgency because of their anti pirating back in the day. Class like that, the fights, the propganda, the wars, the violence the killing and dying just doesn't come around in Eve any more. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<
Trepkos Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.27 07:29:00 - [65] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Don Z0LA ...nostalgia... TBH, I remember back when there were REAL anti-pirates, people like Celestial Apocalypse before all this insurgency crap, and when PIE used to operate down by Misaba (they still do afaik). That's when piracy and being a pirate was tough work to be honest, because if you saw those guys it was time to fight or GTFO. Still to this day I hold massive respect for those guys who still run Insurgency because of their anti pirating back in the day. Class like that, the fights, the propganda, the wars, the violence the killing and dying just doesn't come around in Eve any more. Truth in this post, corps like Celestial Apocalypse and Cult of Cthulhu were a great part of the game. Too bad that most of the decent corps, especially anti-pirate and general decent combat corporations have sold out to alliances and such. -------- Recruit Me
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.27 08:15:00 - [66] This thread is lacking in techzer0. I am here now. This thread can continue. (Vote for me biatches) ------------ Originally by: Praxis1452 you win eve
ruleone the united	Posted - 2008.01.27 09:00:00 - [67] Best new corp-The United (check out battleclinic if you disagree.) New pirate-Katie Door. Again, argue with battleclinic. Let the flaming begin.
Katie Door the united	Posted - 2008.01.27 09:08:00 - [68] Originally by: ruleone Best new corp-The United (check out battleclinic if you disagree.) New pirate-Katie Door. Again, argue with battleclinic. Let the flaming begin. /me takes bow as far as the best corp goes, i have to thank all the members of The United for all the hard work and effort you guys have put in into making The United what it is today
Dalen III Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.01.27 09:19:00 - [69] Stat padding on all those afk pods . Don't blame me, blame the main I'm supporting.
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.01.27 09:20:00 - [70] Whats sad is I only recognise about 4 names here
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.27 10:24:00 - [71] Edited by: General Coochie on 27/01/2008 10:29:05 Originally by: Don Z0LA .. This is my main, but Ive had other eve characters before this one and I took a few breaks. Coming back to eve to get almost 1mill SP for free, and my old char had bad attributes was a race I didn't wanna play and he was uggly made me "reroll". I didn't say they didn't exist. I realize there were some efficient anti pie corps back then. 2 years ago I never experienced anti pie blobs the way the are now. This night we had antipies camping our home system for a while, meanwhile 2 blobs went through the area. 2 years ago that would have been an omg moment. Today its what happens every couple of hours. You say adopting, yet here you are complaining on the status piracy is in at the moment. So why do you think pirates aren't renowned by their skills anymore? I mean some of the old guys are still there. How come rumor about their deeds aren't spread through out eve now? I'm pretty sure they are as skilled as before, if not even more skilled seeing as they played for a few more years. The only way you can loose a battle in eve heavily outnumbered if your opponent have even the slightest skill and FC, is by having superior ships or gang setup. I don't consider this to be against the odds. Being outnumbered and fighting against the odds are two very different things. If you kill a badly setup BC in a well setup rifter, you weren't fighting against the odds.. And if you won because your opponents had bad FC and unskilled pilots you can't claim that your opponents were skilled players, good anti pies. Yes I might be generalizing. I wasn't there to see it myself, I can only tell from the videos Ive seen. I'm not saying that the old famous pirate corps were bad, or lacked skill. I'm pretty sure they were awesome, but I don't think they were better then a lot of pirate corps today. I agree that forum activity is what makes ppl see a pirate corp. But I believe the reason for that is how well populated eve has become, not that there is a difference in skill between the old pirates and the new.
kessah Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.01.27 11:08:00 - [72] God your hirlarious Trep, il have to stick all this on our forums, might even have put on our holy decription as an example of 'bad' loser. Freaking brilliant. I just love when other bigger blobs that go looking for a fight, finding one, then relising 'osht' when we decloak the falcons, then were called the lame ones. Sorry Trep scout next time. What was it we were called the other day.... thats right Lame ECM blobbers ruining the game. 4 bs vs our 1 thought they'd blob him and we bring in some support 2 falcons and 1bs and were the lame ones. I dont understand this game sometimes, il laugh about it anyways.
Dr Slice mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.27 12:37:00 - [73] Originally by: Don Z0LA Originally by: General Coochie bla bla bla im good as the old people no matter i dont have that much sp stuff couple of years ago people looked for fights, not ganks, and back then isk had much more value and was much harder to earn. Anti pirates did exist even before couple of years ago, you should not make such statements so surely when you are not informed well. im pretty sure majority of those old corps would still stand at least a class above majority of operating corps. Becouse those corps were made of players who could think and adopt/evolve, majority of those old players who are playing nowadays are taking lead part in their corporations and are known to be great pvpers. fighting against odds means couple of things, fighting heavily outnumbered, fighting from worse position, against enemy who is in advanced position etc. how do you know that in that old pirate movie those victims were not some who dont know to fit ship ? or you are generalising it all after couple of individuals ? 1.5 year ago your char was buying learning skills so please unless you can talk about something you were involved in, drop it. either post with your main. there were anti pirates back then, maybe not in all parts of eve but there was not either that much pirates in eve. you think anti pirates and other attackers didnt use ew, tacklers, dps ships in their blobs ? also i am not generalising for all, back then there was plenty of ****ty pirate corps aswell, but what i was pointing in first post aswell were famous for being great pvpers not just for doing some things first. m0o, spvd, teddybears, tundragon , sniggs, sorry if i forgot anyone were the names which made you scared for your ship. no one could go fully prepared against them knowing what will result of battle be. now majority of operating most famous pirate corps are most famous by their forum activity in forums. when anti pirates come, they are nowhere to be find, while in the old days anti fighters were source of fun, everyone liked that becouse that meant good fighting. nowadays they just want killmails to claim numbers of shuttles killed... In the old days, people weren't spamming cap ships during equal numbers engagements. If you want to talk about adapting, etc. then stop living in the past. The game is entirely different/changed now, vs. back then. Anti-Pirates are roaming around looking for ganks more than ever. Its not just Pirates/Outlaws. Have you run into a 30-man, 30-different Corp RA Alt anti-Pirate gang in low sec yet? Didn't think so. I have. The only anti-Pirate I know that doesn't bring overwhelming numbers and spam cap ships is Lord Chaos.
Torhas Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.27 12:46:00 - [74] Originally by: Dr Slice The only anti-Pirate I know that doesn't bring overwhelming numbers and spam cap ships is Lord Chaos. But he is OMFG ECM BLOOBER!
Dr Kojak Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.27 13:10:00 - [75] If anyone need the opinion of a second doctor after reading Dr Slice's post, please consult me. However, I must warn you that we usually agree. Oldschool piracy is dead; too many people need large numbers and cap support before even thinking about engaging. These days you have to bait people into equal fights. Dr Kojak Infinitus Odium The Church
Cyan Gadarin Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.27 14:27:00 - [76] I endorse Katie Door and the United. We have not given into 00 lunacy yet.
Tiberius Arcan	Posted - 2008.01.27 14:56:00 - [77] I'm fully behind Cyan and ruleone - Katie has really made an impact as a Pirate/CEO and the united had a strong year in both ransoms and kills. And, might be barking up the wrong tree but the whole 0.0 argument is a bit of a farce when people say to us and other pirates that '' we can't cope with 0.0 '' which in truth is absolute b*llocks. Most pirates have done 0.0 and its a damn lot harder to be a successful pirate in low security. Especially when you think of logistics, scouting, gate guns, blobs, [ big russian ones at that ] and a number of many other things. Pirates just choose something different from 0.0. thats all nothing else. And on that said note, let the flaming begin
Ovek Gallente Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.27 15:17:00 - [78] Originally by: kessah God your hirlarious Trep, il have to stick all this on our forums, might even have put on our holy decription as an example of 'bad' loser. Freaking brilliant. I just love when other bigger blobs that go looking for a fight, finding one, then relising 'osht' when we decloak the falcons, then were called the lame ones. Sorry Trep scout next time. What was it we were called the other day.... thats right Lame ECM blobbers ruining the game. 4 bs vs our 1 thought they'd blob him and we bring in some support 2 falcons and 1bs and were the lame ones. I dont understand this game sometimes, il laugh about it anyways. Shut up. You're boring. Trepkos is sexier and i heard he actually has skill? maybe you've heard about that word? I don't know it seems to be forgotten in this game.
Garmon	Posted - 2008.01.27 17:17:00 - [79] Originally by: Ovek Originally by: kessah stuff Shut up. You're boring. Trepkos is sexier and i heard he actually has skill? maybe you've heard about that word? I don't know it seems to be forgotten in this game. Your smacking like a 12 year old! keep going
Trepkos Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.27 17:36:00 - [80] Originally by: kessah God your hirlarious Trep, il have to stick all this on our forums, might even have put on our holy decription as an example of 'bad' loser. Freaking brilliant. I just love when other bigger blobs that go looking for a fight, finding one, then relising 'osht' when we decloak the falcons, then were called the lame ones. Sorry Trep scout next time. What was it we were called the other day.... thats right Lame ECM blobbers ruining the game. 4 bs vs our 1 thought they'd blob him and we bring in some support 2 falcons and 1bs and were the lame ones. I dont understand this game sometimes, il laugh about it anyways. I'll decrypt this in a more true to life manner.... Quote: I just love when other bigger blobs that go looking for a fight, finding one, then relising 'osht' when we decloak the falcons, then were called the lame ones. Sorry Trep scout next time. Ok for starters, what does this situation have to do with me? I'll happily say the only times I have ever engaged your guys was when your falcon pilots were absent from the scene, nor have we had bigger blobs, so when did this magical imaginary bigger blob come that I was supposedly scouting for and soon after was ambushed by the almighty blood blind falcon squad happen? Because evidently even though I was a scout, I somehow wasn't there or did not remember this.... Or did you just make up a situation to support your argument? Sounds like you did, because I cant see Blood Blind even staying on a gate long enough with the chances of even numbers coming to engage them. It is almost guaranteed to actually get a fair and even fight out of your alliance that you need to trick your alliance into somehow staying in place long enough for an engagement before they eventually scatter like a bunch of roaches when a light is switched on. Quote: What was it we were called the other day.... thats right Lame ECM blobbers ruining the game. 4 bs vs our 1 thought they'd blob him and we bring in some support 2 falcons and 1bs and were the lame ones. Heh, nice. Ofcourse by support you mean about 7-8 hacs-bc's. Just like your light support gang that engaged us consisted of 8 battlecruisers. -------- Recruit Me
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.27 17:40:00 - [81] Originally by: Garmon Originally by: Ovek Originally by: kessah stuff Shut up. You're boring. Trepkos is sexier and i heard he actually has skill? maybe you've heard about that word? I don't know it seems to be forgotten in this game. Your smacking like a 12 year old! keep going and u like a alt
Garmon Minmatar Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.01.27 17:53:00 - [82] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Garmon Originally by: Ovek Originally by: kessah stuff Shut up. You're boring. Trepkos is sexier and i heard he actually has skill? maybe you've heard about that word? I don't know it seems to be forgotten in this game. Your smacking like a 12 year old! keep going and u like a alt Yes this is an alt!
Don Z0LA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2008.01.27 17:56:00 - [83] Originally by: General Coochie Edited by: General Coochie on 27/01/2008 10:29:05 Originally by: Don Z0LA .. ... well if you didnt expirienced that doesnt mean they didnt existed, and thats why i as someone who expirienced them told you what i told you :) for me that happening every couple of hours would be great as it would provide some serious pew pew. i am not complaining on todays piracy status, im saying majority of pirates who made their names in past made them with their skills, majority of pirates who are making names today are making them on forums or you are trying to persuade me that ginger and others like him are skilled players ? and yes i agree with you that those old pirates are even more skilled then they were before, they just aint in piracy anymore, they went for other professions. when yoour scout reports battleship gang with double your numbers + ew support, and you still fight them is it fighting against the odds. or the fact we have fitted eccm and remote reps means we are thinking bit more then they are and therefore makes us more skilled ? im telling you, you are generalising too much, i was there :) im sure that if you take any 5 active pilots from any of old famous pirate corps to fight any 5 of now operating, majority of new guys wouldnt know what hit them. thou i agree that there are still some corps who would give the old guys hard time, maybe even beat them, but as i said majority would get raped.
Don Z0LA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2008.01.27 17:59:00 - [84] Edited by: Don Z0LA on 27/01/2008 18:00:01 Originally by: Dr Slice Originally by: Don Z0LA Originally by: General Coochie bla bla bla im good as the old people no matter i dont have that much sp stuff ... i didnt quit with piracy before 3 years or more. i quit before bit more then half a year. people did cyno cap ships on us. we were 2nd pirate corp after the establishment who had mothership and we bought our with money made of pirating only. and afaik at that time only establishment and us were independant corps out of alliances who had those beasts. we have been attacked with 5:1 odds very often, i dont find it any surprise, people who lack skill go with safety in numbers. and yea there were rare those who would come with aprox same odds, and fight that way, but they always had respect for balls :) edit : trying to sort those quotes :\|
Hemroid Diddller	Posted - 2008.01.27 18:03:00 - [85] Edited by: Hemroid Diddller on 27/01/2008 18:03:40 For all of those people nominating Klepto as "Best New Pirate Corp of 2007" your forgetting one key thing: (must have been created sometime in 07) Klepto was created in 06 (yes this is an alt....my main is "unable to talk")
IHaveTenFingers Caldari ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.01.27 18:18:00 - [86] /me votes Best Pirate Corp of 2007: Dark Twilight Solutions -TF
T'Renn Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.01.27 18:34:00 - [87] Oh I don't know really. People still pirate in Eve? I'll say BEES because I know them and they're awesome cats. 07 was the year we finally flew together as comrades and then once more against each other. I like those guys. Also, whatever corp Dr. Slice is a part of always gets my vote. Guy is PURE CLASS and does a good job of rallying folks around him. Hands down my favorite pirate currently active in the game. Best pirate all-time is Xonja 2zero. I keep hoping she'll come back someday. --
Garmon Minmatar Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.01.27 18:46:00 - [88] Originally by: T'Renn I'll say BEES Sorry for being a ****, but Rupture vs bees muninn No disrespect to BEES though, they're good pilots, I got lucky with muninn with couple of ecm hits from drones
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.27 20:58:00 - [89] Edited by: General Coochie on 27/01/2008 20:59:35 Originally by: Don Z0LA Originally by: General Coochie Edited by: General Coochie on 27/01/2008 10:29:05 Originally by: Don Z0LA .. ... well if you didnt expirienced that doesnt mean they didnt existed, and thats why i as someone who expirienced them told you what i told you :) for me that happening every couple of hours would be great as it would provide some serious pew pew. i am not complaining on todays piracy status, im saying majority of pirates who made their names in past made them with their skills, majority of pirates who are making names today are making them on forums or you are trying to persuade me that ginger and others like him are skilled players ? and yes i agree with you that those old pirates are even more skilled then they were before, they just aint in piracy anymore, they went for other professions. when yoour scout reports battleship gang with double your numbers + ew support, and you still fight them is it fighting against the odds. or the fact we have fitted eccm and remote reps means we are thinking bit more then they are and therefore makes us more skilled ? im telling you, you are generalising too much, i was there :) im sure that if you take any 5 active pilots from any of old famous pirate corps to fight any 5 of now operating, majority of new guys wouldnt know what hit them. thou i agree that there are still some corps who would give the old guys hard time, maybe even beat them, but as i said majority would get raped. No I'm certainly not saying that todays pirates that are famous through forums are the ones that are the best, you mustn't believe that! Even though I had much respect for klepto, they seemed to have something nice going. Ok I understand what you mean. I still don't think that the reason we don't hear rumors about nasty pirates in game is due to they lacking skills, probably the same reason we don't hear what the old pirates are up to these days. EvE just works differently with so many more ppl on the server. There are many more pirate corps today. Naturally many wanna-bees and less good corps comes a long in the process but I have no doubts that there are corps today as efficient and innovative as the old pirate corps. They simply fade away in the mass of players thats why we don't hear about them. I can agree that thinking, planning, leadership = skill. However winning a battle against a decent opponent with superior odds I don't think is possible in eve. Its to static for that. Yes you might have been outnumbered, you scouting might have made you able to setup properly for what is to come (also skill). I was thinking more of the odds in the battle itself. Taking into account, planning, scouting and execution to counter a said group of X pilots bigger then your group surely is skill (especially today as you have to make the other group believe they are gonna win or there wont be a fight). I overlooked that, and in that aspect you can fight against the odds. To make my point more clear, I'm in a pre trinity celetis fit to effectively 1v1 a BC, The odds are in my favor, there aren't many ways the BC can win. However the BC sees me coming and manages to put on a sensor booster without me knowing it. He doesn't activate it until I'm in web and scram range and kills me. In this case the BC had the odds against him (at first) but turned them around and thats what I overlooked, heres where the skill comes in. The BC still has the odds going for him after putting the SB on, and the celestis still had it when he didn't. I realize this seems trivial and semantic. But I think I was looking at it in a very different way then you did and just wanna make it clear so you know where I stand.
Destr0math The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.27 21:17:00 - [90] i vote torhas/his corp for all of them because the rest of you suck. ---- Today is CATURDAY

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