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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.03.28 12:14:00 -
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1) FE are pirates, and are basically at a permanent 0.0 war status with JF, and they called JF pirates. lol. it reminds me of when we chased sinister/rus/tlbc/m0o to Curse for terrorizing Fountain, but we got labeled pirates by the same ppl and their allies for it.
corrrection :
1) F-E are the part of FE thats stop to be pirates a long time ago. The pirates of FE are Huff and fight for NORAD (FA) with CELES and others.
2) JF has no combat fleet (or doesnt use them).
3) You are called pirates by many alliances like XETIC, PA etc.
4) Welcome back 
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Homo Habilis
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Posted - 2004.03.28 12:40:00 -
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If you're a pirate once, you're a pirate forever.
What Evol is, doesn't matter here. I wasn't making any claims about what we are, or denying any either. I will state a simple fact though:
Evol has never sat at a system and just killed every single ship that came through as real pirates do. If we did, everyone would know it, and there would be no opinions about it. I do not condone indiscriminate killing in high travel systems, but as everyone knows, warzones take civillian lives too.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.28 14:37:00 -
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I don't understand why JF is here at all. And I certainly don't understand why you feel the need to, yet again, tell us your version of the already well-known history of m3g4 and biomass. If you have forgotten, there are 3 other corps that make up F-E, and none of them have the tarnished reputation that you wash us ex-biomass people with every chance you get.
The primary reason is explained very clearly in the polite and factual response made to answer your "empire" press release. IE. to warn potential F-E mining pass corporations that they will be held answerable for collaboration should F-E conduct bring us to another direct shooting war. (And lets face it this is very likely, given our lack of recognition of your territorial claims and your statement that you will consider us "terrorists" and engage without mercy)
The comment about M3G4 ancestry was made directly to Limpy Bint who had stated that Biomass had never claimed to be anything but "pirates" ... since I know from personal experience that Biomass did claim to be innocent and law-abiding and had a "change of mind" it is pertinent history given the number of Biomass in Forsaken Empire. If some of your governmnent have a repution of changing their spots on a regular basis then people have a right to know.
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For one thing, F-E and the rest of EVE could really care less what Jericho's official stance is on our opening of our space. It would be more polite if you had opened your own thread and seen what goes on in it. But, as it were, you felt the need to poke your head out a little higher than the other children in order to get some attention.
You don't (and never will) speak for "the rest of Eve" so don't be silly. And responding factually to a press release is "polite". If for example I had posted "yap yap yap loser tards die I rulz ya freakoboys" ... now that would have been impolite. If you can't see the difference you might ask a grownup to translate for you ?
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Also, to all of you JF people that have found a place in Jade's shadow, please, PLEASE, PLLLLEEEEEEEAAAAASE, come up with some original content. Half of the things you write seem to be cut and pasted straight from Jade's posts! Its a waste of time, especially when all it does is further hijak a totally legit post!
Whereas a could majority of the things you chaps write seem to be direct liftings from the collected wisdom of those ancient wits ... beavis and butthead. Stones and glass houses i wonder? But the import point here ... debate is legitimate. The points raised by our people are legitimate. If you don't want your policy discussed don't post it.
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Anyway, back to the point. We already have many individuals as well as corps that have expressed interest in this opportunity and have begun setting up camp. Time will tell what will come of this new direction we are taking, but EVE certainly could go without a history lesson every time we post anything at all.
You and I will have to agree to disagree, but yes It will be interesting to see what happens.
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Xavier Perez
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Posted - 2004.03.28 20:46:00 -
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I'm glad Jade likes to talk to much. Her uvula kinda wiggles around like a dashboard hula girl. That's so sexy.
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.03.28 21:47:00 -
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Once again, Jade, you completely disregarded the most poignant part of my post. What I was saying is that the vast majority of EVE could really care less what you or your fraction thinks about our claim to space, and moreover, you've already posted your stance multiple times. So please, quit wasting our time (and I know i speak for MOST of eve on this one) with you long, drawn out posts that are usually redundant. Be polite and easier on everyones scrolling fingers and make your own posts about your stances. I saw that you did this a couple weeks ago, and i liked the trend.
To evolution: you still speak to us as if you were the badest-badasses in EVE. The morally superior pirate hunters that will stop at nothing to rid eve of scum, whether it is for their current transgressions or past. And yet, you team up with m0o to kill some CA. It doesnt matter what your excuse is or how you bend the truth on this one, that combination just lost you the 5 ounces of respect that EVE had for you.
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Homo Habilis
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Posted - 2004.03.29 00:51:00 -
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Edited by: Homo Habilis on 29/03/2004 00:54:02
Marichek:
No one from evolution has ever claimed that we are a pirate hunter corp.
No one has ever said it was our goal to rid eve of scum.
Morals and superiority are in the eyes of the beholder. We don't care.
We do what we want to do.
We teamed up with m0o to kill some CA, yep. Unfortunately for you, that statement gets you 0 propz. It's not in dispute.
Evolution is also not interesting in the respect of people like you, who make up our stances for us, so that you can judge us when we do what we want.
We have never ever been pirate hunters or scum killers. We have been Evolution, doing whatever we feel like doing.
Oops, I seemed to have dismantled the entire thrust of your anti-evol post. sorry. Perhaps if you didn't make stuff up it would have been more difficult.
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And since you missed this the first time:
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What Evol is, doesn't matter here. I wasn't making any claims about what we are, or denying any either.
I'll put it back out here for you.
If you would like to make this about Evolution, I will be happy to bend you over on the facts.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.29 00:55:00 -
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Marichek
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Once again, Jade, you completely disregarded the most poignant part of my post.
Actually I disregarded the most laughable part which was your conceit that you could speak for anyone beyond your corp and close allies.
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What I was saying is that the vast majority of EVE could really care less what you or your fraction thinks about our claim to space, and moreover, you've already posted your stance multiple times.
Actually no, this specific response to your specific mining initiative is appropriate and to the point.
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So please, quit wasting our time (and I know i speak for MOST of eve on this one)
So you speak for a majority of the player base do you? (ye gods and people call me egotistical!)
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with you long, drawn out posts that are usually redundant. Be polite and easier on everyones scrolling fingers and make your own posts about your stances. I saw that you did this a couple weeks ago, and i liked the trend.
Fundimentally, if you don't want comment on your alliance actions do nothing, post nothing, affect nothing.
Otherwise I will continue to excercise my right to free speech in the Eve Star Cluster and you can opt to ignore me or respond as you do personally choose.
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.03.29 01:02:00 -
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Oh, and on topic, Evol will keep all FE pirates on kos until the end of time. You chose to be pirates, you can be treated as such.
Please explain this to me, then; mr. homo
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.03.29 01:06:00 -
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Jade ..... do you want a mining pass ........ ???
Urm No
Then STFU and stop baiting and trolling posts..
Yap Yap
Mongo speaks !!
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Homo Habilis
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Posted - 2004.03.29 01:14:00 -
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marichek, are you serious?
you chose to be pirates and shoot at us, we're going to keep you on kos for being stupid little pirates who shot at us.
it's... so... hard... I... don't... get it...
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.29 01:31:00 -
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Jade ..... do you want a mining pass ........ ???
Urm No Then STFU and stop baiting and trolling posts..
Yap Yap
I don't want a mining pass but I do want you chaps to reject reactionary tyranny and accept that holding dominion over free territory is the act of fiscal bullies and low-scraping villainous cartels.
And I have hate to repeat myself but I will, if you don't want comment go hide under a rock. The angrier you get the less chance you have to convince anyone with your rhetoric monsieur Peck and perhaps the more likely it is that the free citizens of Eve will rise up and assault the edifice of your broad and foul ambition.
Not a bad result all told.
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.03.29 03:54:00 -
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you chose to be pirates and shoot at us, we're going to keep you on kos for being stupid little pirates who shot at us.
That statement is totally contradictory to this one:
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Evol will keep all FE pirates on kos until the end of time. You chose to be pirates, you can be treated as such.
If you want to have two reasons to hate us, then at least own up to them both, instead of contradicting yourself by denying one of them.
But, either way you look at it, we've claimed to be a legit, non-piratical entity...which has been proven by the fact that HUFF felt the need to leave the corp to go do the pirating thing.
And now that you have a friendly alliance with TRUE pirates (m0o) it makes you look terribly silly and transparent.
Do...you...get...it...now?
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.29 04:07:00 -
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But, either way you look at it, we've claimed to be a legit, non-piratical entity...which has been proven by the fact that HUFF felt the need to leave the corp to go do the pirating thing.
If I claimed to be the empress of Geminate would you pay me tribute?
Or to be more blunt, why should anyone respect your "claims", and by what authority have you "legitimised" your organised crime cartel?
And lets face it, the only difference between Huff and F-E is that Huff admitted they were bored stupid with only killing intruders to a claimed domain, whereas F-E have got a little more patience it seems (but still) kill intruders in a claimed domain. You are both murderous criminals lets face it. The only difference is that Huff are a little more honest about it.
All this "proves" is that Huff are more likely to tell the truth about their true motivations than you guys are.
Surely?
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.03.29 04:25:00 -
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Well spoken, Jade. Afterall, you have already "proven" to know more about the innerworkings and secrets of the F-E that it's own pilots. Funny that such a self-proclaimed intellectual and experct debater would be so naive...but I'm sure that its just me and not you. I digress...
/sarcasm
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Homo Habilis
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Posted - 2004.03.29 05:01:00 -
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No marichek, the statements do not contradict each other. You are simply wrong.
You are saying that the sentences:
"Evol will keep all FE pirates on kos until the end of time. You chose to be pirates, you can be treated as such."
are the same as:
"Because you are pirates, Evol will continue to kill you. You chose to be pirates, you can be treated as such."
You shot at Evolution. You shot at Evolution because you are pirates. Evolution has you on kos because you shot at Evolution. You shot at Evolution because you are pirates.
My wording was correct. You failed to understand it. You assumed incorrectly. You are wrong.
We don't hate you. You are not worthy enough in this game, nor do you have the skills, to persuade Evolution to hate you.
Furthermore, HUFF leaving you is not needed as proof that you have claimed to be legit. You have done that here, in the forums. Claiming to be something is easy. Who cares if HUFF left? It's not proof that you're legit. Countless times throughout history, and this game alone, have smokescreens such as that been put up to make the populace believe something.
You were pirates. That means you are pirates.
Maybe if you don't pull camps for the next 730 days, your pirate tags will come off. Until then, you will remain on Evolution kos because you shot at Evolution.
You're too small marichek.
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.03.29 05:29:00 -
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Personal attacks aside, you compltely missed the point to my argument, and made yourself look more foolish.
Happy hunting!
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.03.29 05:34:00 -
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Edited by: Mongo Peck on 29/03/2004 05:37:15
Who cares with the forum trolls .......
Either deal with us or kill us, but its better the devil you know ....
Hush Jade your just yapping again .......... you are in this post ..... why ???? You have already agreed that you are not intrested in a mining pass...... so troll and bait somewhere else ...
Mongo speaks !!
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.03.29 05:45:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 29/03/2004 05:47:37
"We brake for nobody"
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Homo Habilis
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Posted - 2004.03.29 05:46:00 -
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I win.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.03.29 05:48:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 29/03/2004 06:09:15
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I win.
hows that Mrs. Homo?
"We brake for nobody"
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Homo Habilis
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Posted - 2004.03.29 06:23:00 -
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You just lowered yourself to calling me 'Mrs. Homo'.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.03.29 06:28:00 -
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nah, i just assumed u where the Mrs. in house Homo!
"We brake for nobody"
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Homo Habilis
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Posted - 2004.03.29 06:37:00 -
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No you didn't.
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