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Teslique
Gallente
Play Bunnies
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Posted - 2008.01.30 02:24:00 -
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Syndicate...or Pure Blind?
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Francesca Fritzlestickz
Snopes
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Posted - 2008.01.30 02:38:00 -
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deklein
I fail at life, just like the person reading this |
doctorstupid2
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.30 02:38:00 -
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I submit that it's not piracy in 0.0
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L70Rogue
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Posted - 2008.01.30 03:10:00 -
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pirate in 0.0? lol
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Gamesguy
Amarr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 03:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Francesca Fritzlestickz
deklein
No no, we're respected 0.0 space holders, not lowlife pirate scum. The fact that half our pilots are -10 are erm... not important.
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Shiodome
Caldari
Black Sea Industries
Cult of War
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Posted - 2008.01.30 03:32:00 -
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Edited by: Shiodome on 30/01/2008 03:32:50
if you're killing to make a living, ransoming your prey etc, why is it not piracy just because of the location? those going around wearing their NBSI hats and spraying ammo everywhere... sure, not pirates, agreed. but anyone in 0.0 hunting for a living is still following the yarr, or is it only pirating if there's er... gateguns 
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jimmyjam
Wise Guys
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2
I submit that it's not piracy in 0.0
Piracy is not a systems sec piracy is actions it dont mater where it happends or what sec level it is.
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Christopher Berger
Minmatar
Militaris Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:08:00 -
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Curse! No doubt about it, i think!
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Zorai Miraden
Gallente
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:53:00 -
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Pirate in 0.0 is kind of hard to define.
I would say Curse though. It's the most pirate friendly anyways with all of those NPC stations.
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
The Ninja Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:32:00 -
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Piracy, as defined by the Feng Schui's Book of Knowledge, is defined as:
The act of negotiating terms for profit. This can include, but not limited to:
1) Ransoms.
2) Killing someone to sell their loot.
3) 0.01 isk undercutting. <--- the worst kind of piracy imo, as it can entail billions upon billions of ISK.
4) Ore theft.
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Belial Tempter
Amarr
Twisted Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:54:00 -
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Edited by: Belial Tempter on 30/01/2008 08:57:31
Looting a ship for profit, as opposed to being at war, aka Piracy, in International waters is still Piracy, no?
Killing / looting a ship for profit in "International" Space, aka 0.0, is therefore still Piracy also..
imvho ofc 
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2
I submit that it's not piracy in 0.0
qft
So funny how people (pvp'ers) react to this. lol.
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Belial Tempter
Edited by: Belial Tempter on 30/01/2008 08:57:31
Looting a ship for profit, as opposed to being at war, aka Piracy, in International waters is still Piracy, no?
Killing / looting a ship for profit in "International" Space, aka 0.0, is therefore still Piracy also..
imvho ofc
But if the 0,0-space is owned by an alliance it shouldn't be considered as "international space". The sov-alliances' will is the law in that space.
Some people seem to think that just because the space is conquerable it means it can't be owned, which is a bit condradictive.
Piracy in 0,0 is piracy if the ruling entity deem it as such imo.
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Maximillian Power
Minmatar
Twilight Faction
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: jimmyjam
Originally by: doctorstupid2
I submit that it's not piracy in 0.0
Piracy is not a systems sec piracy is actions it dont mater where it happends or what sec level it is.
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Commoner
Caldari
Emergent Chaos
Bedlam Consortium
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:01:00 -
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Syndicate - END THREAD
The worst pvp'er in EVE :
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Donovan Killar
Caldari
Darkness Inc.
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Feng Schui
Piracy, as defined by the Feng Schui's Book of Knowledge, is defined as:
The act of negotiating terms for profit. This can include, but not limited to:
1) Ransoms.
2) Killing someone to sell their loot.
3) 0.01 isk undercutting. <--- the worst kind of piracy imo, as it can entail billions upon billions of ISK.
4) Ore theft.
Lets see:
1) Daily
2) Daily
3) Daily
4) Once upon a time, Daily.
Guess I'm a pirate. (not that the -10 says it or anything) 
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Belial Tempter
Amarr
Twisted Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Fina
Piracy in 0,0 is piracy if the ruling entity deem it as such imo.
Yea sorry, that's what I trying to say, I'm just not as good at making myself clear
Although, after further thought, it might be legal, or 'sanctioned' Piracy in certain 0.0 areas..but it's still Piracy...technically...Piracy is defined by the act itself, it's not a legal definition of the act...so in a way, even if the ruling entity deem it not Piracy, it still is. Same as if they said a spoon is a fork, it's still a spoon 
I'm crap at making myself clear, I know..
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Belial Tempter
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Piracy in 0,0 is piracy if the ruling entity deem it as such imo.
Yea sorry, that's what I trying to say, I'm just not as good at making myself clear
Although, after further thought, it might be legal, or 'sanctioned' Piracy in certain 0.0 areas..but it's still Piracy...technically...Piracy is defined by the act itself, it's not a legal definition of the act...so in a way, even if the ruling entity deem it not Piracy, it still is. Same as if they said a spoon is a fork, it's still a spoon
I'm crap at making myself clear, I know..
I understand what you mean.
The question is if you look at piracy as a general term or a crime - to commit piracy.
If there is no general consensus of what piracy is throughout the universe the one left to catagorize an act of agression would be the sov. holding alliance.
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Teslique
Gallente
Play Bunnies
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:12:00 -
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so from what i gathered reading so far, sec status is not related directly to piracy?
Like say if an alliance member see's a Red in a low sec system and shoots (and keeps doing this and gets a low low status they are not really pirates)
So Piracy is if you attack a ship to make money(not defend your space etc), in any way ransom/loot?
hmmI must have a look at curse....
Syndicate is..ummmm fun also however , sooo many random nutters lol.
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Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:22:00 -
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In 0.0 it's not piracy.
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Rejari
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:56:00 -
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Well, In 0.0 PVP Happens. Guaranteed.
In low sec, people think that if they are quiet no one notices them. This, is called "Surprise PVP" because YOU (The Ganked) did not see it coming.
As I recall a very good quote:
"It's called EVE Online, Not Hello Kitty"
Translation: "It's not fair, nor will it be. Either grab some brains and learn or move back to WOW"
o7 to all those in 0.0 that I pvp with and against. May the killing and destruction of ships be great on both ends 
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Belial Tempter
Amarr
Twisted Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Belial Tempter on 30/01/2008 15:14:06
Originally by: Plaetean
In 0.0 it's not piracy.
Why?
Because you say so? 
Piracy is an ACT. If you kill someone and loot their ship at sea it is called Piracy. In Eve the same has been applied to killing somoene and looting their spaceship. what difference does it make where it is?
Put it like this, If you smoke a certain drug in england, you are "getting high", illegally. If you smoke teh same drug in Amsterdam, you are still getting high, legally.
Either way, you're still "getting high". The legality and location of what you are doing is all that has changed, not the act itself.
So you can call it 'sanctioned Piracy', 'legal Piracy' or whatever the hell you like. It's still Piracy.
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Tchell Dahhn
Amarr
The Space BorderLine
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:10:00 -
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Piracy? In my 0.0?
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Teslique
so from what i gathered reading so far, sec status is not related directly to piracy?
Like say if an alliance member see's a Red in a low sec system and shoots (and keeps doing this and gets a low low status they are not really pirates)
So Piracy is if you attack a ship to make money(not defend your space etc), in any way ransom/loot?
Well, if you say that piracy is any act of aggression with the intent to earn money one could say that regular 0,0 PvP/wars, between alliances with the intent to capture moons/resources or pre-emptively secure the ones you already got also can be classified as piracy since there is a financial goal entwined with the fights.
The definition of piracy as a state of being or act is a bit vague. As a crime, however, is easy since itĘs up to the law enforcing entity of a territory to judge.
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Atomos Darksun
Havoc Inc
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 30/01/2008 15:18:25
Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Francesca Fritzlestickz
deklein
No no, we're respected 0.0 space holders, not lowlife pirate scum. The fact that half our pilots are -10 are erm... not important.
respected?
Anyways, 0.0 isn't piracy.
But if you really wanted to fork out an answer, Syndicate.
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Belial Tempter
Amarr
Twisted Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Belial Tempter on 30/01/2008 15:27:38
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Anyways, 0.0 isn't piracy.
/me is reminded of that film "Falling Down"..
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:55:00 -
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imo.. 0.0 isnt piracy.... its space whit no rules. no rules... means everyone is fair game.
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VJ Maverick
Caldari
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Riho
imo.. 0.0 isnt piracy.... its space whit no rules. no rules... means everyone is fair game.
"Everyone's fair game" is, by definition, piracy. Pirates act out of a profit motive without any regard to whose colors their victim is flying.
Originally by: Bodhisattvas
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Tal Nok
Amarr
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:46:00 -
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For those that wan't to argue over the fact that 0.0 doesn't have piracy, you can join the rest of the nubbinsover there.
The answer to OP question: Syndicate.
The only time this ever changes is when a pirate gets blobbed. Then it's blobbing, not piracy because your not looking to make any money off of the guy in a ceptor/hac/w-e who just blew up your alliance mate in a faction fitted BS, but revenge in your 50 man battleship gang with caps fueled and ready to go.
I would go as far as saying 0.0 contains terrorism, which guess what for those well educated IVY league folks? It's still a form of piracy.
Two birds in one stone answered with one mighty, epic post that will only fall on blind eyes.
Originally by: hellsknights
It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
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Dr Kojak
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:58:00 -
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Syndicate is a friendly region where a large portion of the locals are more than willing to help passing souls repent.
Dr Kojak
Infinitus Odium
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