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ragewind
Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Seeing EyeDog and reducing shield explosive resists by 10% buffs amarr how?
because when you are doing no more damage to its unchanged em/ther tank it will have all 4 damage times loaded and will respectivly to 10% more damage on your shield and armor for its respective ammo and then once all your armarr ships are dead you will forget about them and fly anything elses and stop shouting at ccp, they have feelings about how they fail to fix you and well now just wish you will go away
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Dark-Rising The Dawn of Darkness
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Angel DeMorphis Edited by: Angel DeMorphis on 30/01/2008 21:19:04
Originally by: Cpt Fina What the hell are you people talking about? Alot of shieldtanked ships outperforms armortanks in PvP. They are excellent at taking a ****load of damage for a shorter amount of time.
And is able to tackle the opponent at the same time? Yeah, shield tankers can fit well into groups, but armor tankers have mid slots free for PvP essentials like webber, jammer, AB/MWD, etc. (EDIT: without having to sacrifice their tank)
P.S. And you don't want to take a crapload of damage for a shorter amount of time, you want to take a crap load of damage for a longer amount of time. If for a shorter amount of time, you die faster.
Do you solo alot in a sleipnir? It has a redicilously powerful active shield tank and can fit full gank + tank. I mean its not like youre fitting alot of tackle gear on a gang/fleet absolution. Shield tanking is fine. Amarr pvp Vids: Inq - I Inq - II |

Durao
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:30:00 -
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This is a great move, ccp.
I'm looking forward to testing things out on singularity. |

nirana
Amarr Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:31:00 -
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I like it :D
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Angel DeMorphis
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Do you solo alot in a sleipnir? It has a redicilously powerful active shield tank and can fit full gank + tank. I mean its not like youre fitting alot of tackle gear on a gang/fleet absolution. Shield tanking is fine.
Like I said in my post you didn't read, shield tanks can fit well into groups (to a limited capacity), but you can't tank and tackle like armor tankers can, and you were never meant to.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:33:00 -
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I'm glad to see them addressing the issue. I look forward to their future devblogs where further ship specific changes are outlined.
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Angel DeMorphis Edited by: Angel DeMorphis on 30/01/2008 21:19:04
Originally by: Cpt Fina What the hell are you people talking about? Alot of shieldtanked ships outperforms armortanks in PvP. They are excellent at taking a ****load of damage for a shorter amount of time.
And is able to tackle the opponent at the same time? Yeah, shield tankers can fit well into groups, but armor tankers have mid slots free for PvP essentials like webber, jammer, AB/MWD, etc. (EDIT: without having to sacrifice their tank)
Yeah, shieldtankers fit very well into groups. Much so because of their impressive tank which doesn't nerf their damageoutput. In other words, very viable in PvP.
Originally by: Angel DeMorphis
P.S. And you don't want to take a crapload of damage for a shorter amount of time, you want to take a crap load of damage for a longer amount of time. If for a shorter amount of time, you die faster.
Active shieldtanks, which tankable dps outperforms most armourtanks, often lasts longer than 7-8 minutes with all mods active, which in most situations are much better than having an average tank that lasts forever.
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EglantinFinfleur
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:38:00 -
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Excellent stealth minmatar buff.
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Alowishus
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:40:00 -
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I feel sorry for anyone who runs across my Maelstrom thinking shield tanks don't work for PvP 
/makes fart noise
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Harall
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Posted - 2008.01.30 21:51:00 -
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I'm afraid that the change would increase the popularity of EANMs and end up not much of a boost. As it is, it's not a problem fighting hardener tanked ships since EM is their weakest resist.
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Sebroth
Coordination Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.01.30 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Harall I'm afraid that the change would increase the popularity of EANMs and end up not much of a boost. As it is, it's not a problem fighting hardener tanked ships since EM is their weakest resist.
this
its not the basic res on the ships they need to change but the eanm and aktive hardners so we get more reason to use aktiv hardners on our armor tanking ships. sure it will be a boost for amarr ships vs eanm tanks but at the same time you make sure more people use eanm tank and in the end em will still be alot worse then exp vs eanm tanks
I will have less reason to change my ammo on my minmatar ships tho so I guess I should be happy ----- Never knock on Death's door; ring the doorbell and run (he hates that) |

Meridius Dex
Amarr Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.30 22:16:00 -
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Let me also congratulate CCP for not only acknowledging the problem, but taking the first steps to remedy it. Reading that devblog gave me the first real hope I've had since I started playing this game. I had canceled my subscription back in December, allowing it to run out at the end of January, believing that no change would ever come. I have since restarted my sub and look forward to the other changes the devs indicated are coming down the pipe.
KUDOS! -- Meridius Dex --
Amarr = EVE on Hard setting |

Back Again
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.01.30 22:26:00 -
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This is, yet, another Amarr and Caldari whining thread. In fact, some say that shield tanking is fine and use Minmatar ships as examples of good PvP ships.
What do you think CCP want us to do? Please, think before answering, as this is not that hard to discover - CROSSTRAINING to another race!!!
Do you know any 2yo player that fly only 1 race ships? If so, he must be flying Gallente or Minmatar, that for sure. And, OFC, I'd crosstrained from my initial caldari crap and, as long CCP don't nerf Gallente and drones I will be ok, for the ones that want to PvE, stick with your "awesome" missile boats.
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General StarScream
Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.01.30 22:28:00 -
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lol drones allready got a huge nerf, and hybrids suck cuse they only do kin/therm wich everyone has at 80% res anyway,. Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |

Back Again
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.01.30 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream lol drones allready got a huge nerf, and hybrids suck cuse they only do kin/therm wich everyone has at 80% res anyway,.
So, I think you must be crosstraining for caldari then, isn't you?
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.01.30 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Aem
Think not of 10% less EM on your own ship, but 10% reduction on theirs.
Great advice.
I will try to think of this while I'm being shot.

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ExcellciuM
Exair Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2008.01.30 23:12:00 -
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As per usual CCP, instead of giving Amarr some CPU/Grid decide its best to nerf a completly different thing altogether and try to fob it off as an Amarr boost, All I see happening is them removing the HP buff they added by lowering resistances. And not that Minmatar need a boost but they are the ones benefiting from this as well.
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CCP Mitnal

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Posted - 2008.01.31 04:19:00 -
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