The little Drakes that couldn't?

Ah yes. The perma MWD Drake doctrine with dual cap rigs I see. You know, a perma MWDing drake with 2 LSE II and a CDFE I rig has a signature radius of 2097 metres, which by comparison is over 5 times bigger than a Megathron and only slightly less than a dreadnought.

XL guns have a signature resolution of 1000 metres. This means the titans will track these Drakes approximately twice as good as EFT tells you.

You can still color me unimpressed.

What about this "Einstein" ? :D

Yeah. XL guns hitting a target which is about 50% bigger than a mega is clearly broken. With its tank I suspect all it needed to to was sneeze at it.

ROFL. Baltec, are you trying to convince me to believe that a battelship will have a harder time than a titan hitting a MWDing interdictor?

How is this info war campaign of yours working out for you?

Actually the EVE physics engine doesnt really care what you call the target. Every ship is just a sphere with a certain radius as far as it is concerned. And yes, a 1000m sigres gun hitting a 600+ m sigrad target is indeed working as intended.

Using a MWD in the vincinity of big stuff that will instapop you if they can hit you is not very smart. Are you advocating we reduce battle parametres in EVE to tank and dps only perhaps? So you dont have to think and you know - fly smartly? I'm sure that would suit the Goon blob perfectly.

Titans are not OP unless used en-masse. So the question is right, but the prefferred Goon solution (death to all supercaps) is wrong. Its not the ships that are the problem, its how they are used. Besides, in a mature game like EVE, you you have to evolve with the players, adding stuff, not taking stuff away. So, instead of getting rid of the supers, introduce new capital ships that can create a truly rock-paper-scissors environment for capital ships.

Its gone too far for that. That could have been an option in 2008 when dominion came along. Now, there are just to many of them.

Who cares? I guess most titan owners care? And titan heavy alliances? I mean how many fleetboosters would a fleet need exactly?

Its just too many of them, and they want to play too.

Now I dont think you are ever going to agree with me on this Baltec, because we are not discussing the same thing.

I am discussing game design. You are not. You are a Goon lobbyist, which by definition means that you will hold the point of view most beneficial to the in-game Goon interests. And presently my friend, those interests include a game preferably without titans at all, but secondary titans that have been nerfed into oblivion.

If this was the case, I wonder why any solution to add to the game rather that detract from it is the wrong solution?

Well you dont need to answer that, because I know

I would be more inclined to trust your sincerity if you or any other goon/test member talking in these threads werent ONLY talking about changes that would be a massive benefit to your alliances in-game.

Personally I dont think that is a coincidence. So forgive me when I call bullshit

LOL. No Baltec it doesnt. Specifically it doesn't benefit your old arch enemies Raiden, it doesnt benefit most drone russian alliances and it certainly does not benefit PL. What does these alliances have in common? Oh yes. They are your enemies in-game right now.

Or - in your case - a bigger blob

Well it has worked out for You hasnt it? That is, if it wasnt for those pesky titans ofc.

Using blob tactics has been a Goon signature tactic for as long as it has existed. You are not alone in this ofc, but this is your main modus operandi and has always been. Right now titans > blob, and you dont like it, which is fine.

What I dont like is a solution that will just remove titan and free the goon blob. I'd like to see a more balanced way forward. And introducing a true rock-paper-scissors capital game available as low entry (like dreads/carriers) for everybody I think is much better than just freeing the blob.

No baltec. Because if the last few months had been blob vs blob, we wouldnt have this dicsussion would we?

After the internal civil war within DRF and WN essentially knocked out of the game at least for the time beeing, Deklein enjoys numerical superiority. The key to maintaining this superiority is however to maintain pilot morale which essentially means maintaining some sense of progress. And right now, you meet titans at an increasing rate. Which is precisely why these threads pops up on the foums at an equally increasing rate.

I know this guy that loves to roam in lowsec in his HAC, but he is ******* annoyed when ge get dropped by multiple battlehsips. He once told me that a big ass gun on a battleship shouldnt be able to hit a lowly cruiser.

Basically, This game has only 4 gun classes. XL for capitals (including titans), L for battleships, M for BC/Cruisers and S for destroyers and frigates.

So, if we take this proposal and implement it in the physics engine, there should really be no downward efficiency between classes. Or do you mean it should only affect XL guns because you happen to not fly a capital?

Yeah thats a retorical question.

Now Now. You cant really blame the game for the goon FC not having the balls to respond in kind. Because he could have, the blob wasnt that large. Or perhaps the tech moon wasnt deemed strategically important enough to risk your titans? Whic of course is fair enough.

Thats not a design problem though.

Exactly. There is a strategic imbalance between you and your enemies. You percive that you cannot do something about it directly, so you resort to the indirect approach and lobby for their removal or gutting as combat ships on the forums. This will of course also affect your own titans, but since you have less of them, it will hit your enemies harder.

Any proposal that adress the problem of titan blob in any other way that removal or nerfing of titans gets rejected, because your true agenda isnt really game design after all, its in-game power.

You are avoiding the question again. Why do you reject any other solution to the problem of the titan blob than nerfing/gutting of titans as combat ships?

Lol, or something awful would just dump more people into a system than they have in a single fight. Not using tatics at all.

Nobody. I think I have said 2 or 3 times in this thread allready that the titans used en-mass is a problem. What we disagree on is the solution.

Your "enable small alliances to conquer nullsec" argument is pretty cute comming from a goon. The goons have played this power game with skill for the last 6 years. Im sure you havent suddenly developed an acute considreation for the small unproven highsec alliance wanting to conquer null on its own lol. So forgive me once more when I call bullshit.

I did, actually. You need to actually read answers before hitting the reply button.

So there we have it. The only acceptable solution (because it will help the little guy wink wink) is incidentally the same solution that will strip the Goons enemies of their power to stop the goon blob advancing.

I think that sums it up.