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Chaz Pounder
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Posted - 2004.03.28 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: Chaz Pounder on 28/03/2004 08:29:23
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Edited by: Sally on 28/03/2004 01:36:13
Hahahaha.
So I did some intercepting of battleships with a Vigil, Merlin, Griffin, partly with success.
Now I got me a Stiletto for 7 Million ISK and it takes a Tempest (1 seonsor booster) 11 seconds to lock me.
WOW!
By the time the support comes in I am as dead as I would be in a Vigil or any other good frigate.
The interceptors are nothing more than better frigates, they don't deserve the name interceptor and I want to warn everyone who consider wasting the skill time and ISK, they suck big time if you want to intercept battleships with them. If you go for frigate vs. frigate combat they are fine, but you can have the fun for 1/30 of the price.
Also freaking sad that every battleship with a MWD is a much better interceptor than the interceptors themself.
Wtg CCP.
AGREEED ¢!!"R! F*S I waited like 37+ days for my nathere main cude fly a interseptor when i finally got it I gota say it su*k.. I honest thing a Rifter is a better frigitt ... BAH .. yeah one good thing is pods dont get away when theres a elit frigitt close :)
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Masi
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Posted - 2004.03.28 10:24:00 -
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Edited by: Masi on 28/03/2004 10:25:05
1 1400, 2 Low Trackers. Perfect Hit of 948.42 on a Intercepter. Cost me 50 isk to fire that shot, cost him 7mil
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.28 10:26:00 -
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The problem with people flying Interceptors is this: they think they are meant for fighting.
Intereceptors are meant to be used to catch and try to hold down the prey, in concert with other Interceptors, long-enough for the big-guns to arrive.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.28 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: Sally on 28/03/2004 10:37:37
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Fleet warps to battleship.
Battleship warps to a planet 20au away.
Interceptor warps to the same planet.
Interceptor gets where way before the battleship.
Battleship = intercepted and will now *most* likely get warp scrambled and killed when the rest of the gang warps in.
Highly theoretical, practical experience:
1. Battleship pilot simply quits the game and CCP warps him to a safe spot.
2. Battleship pilot warps to a safe spot. Go to 1.
3. Battleship pilot warps to a moon of a planet and the interceptor pilot just to the planet. Go to 1.
4. Battleship pilot warps to a planet and the interceptor pilot too, but one at 15 km and the other at 60 km. Go to 1.
5. The interceptor pilot actually intercepts the battleship.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.03.28 11:10:00 -
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Highly theoretical, practical experience:
1. Battleship pilot simply quits the game and CCP warps him to a safe spot.
2. Battleship pilot warps to a safe spot. Go to 1.
3. Battleship pilot warps to a moon of a planet and the interceptor pilot just to the planet. Go to 1.
4. Battleship pilot warps to a planet and the interceptor pilot too, but one at 15 km and the other at 60 km. Go to 1.
5. The interceptor pilot actually intercepts the battleship.
Some thoughts:
1. Battleships are slow to align. Get up there, scramble his ass, and then he can log off all he wants, his ship is not going nowhere (remember that the logoff-warp is subject to normal warping mechanics).
2. True.
3. The interceptor(s) following him will arrive before him, lock him quickly when he arrives (with several interceptors you'd be able to follow in the warp with different warpin-ranges, covering the sorry BS completely), then see 1.
4. True, if there's only one interceptor, that can happen. You win some, you loose some. If you want to win every time at a game, play solitaire.
5. ...and everyone can pop the drinks generally play around gaily.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.28 11:13:00 -
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11 days 6 hours for Evasive Maneuvring Level 5, 12 days 4hrs for Frigate Level 5.
All that just to fly a slightly quicker/slightly harder to target frigate?
I could get large hybrid level 5 in that time.
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Anoobiss
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Posted - 2004.03.28 11:22:00 -
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I think the interceptors work best with peeps who have fighting experience.You have to know what to do in a battle and how to do it.I have seen peeps in them make a bs or 2 run ya have to know how to work it.LoL The same thing a few of yer gf's might say....
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Joe
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Posted - 2004.03.28 11:41:00 -
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Intercepting means Warpscrambling as far as i'm concerned, You Shouldn't Expect to kill anything but the smallest Cruiser in a Frigate.
If You use The intercepter with corpmates you should have a great time hunting. eg ~
1. Warp in, Orbit, Warpscramble.
2. Gangmates use 'Warp to gangmate' function
3. You warp away before your locked.
As far as the Drones Vs. Intercepters, Frigate weapons are perfect for destroying them, just use ammo thats at the drones orbiting range. You can even use an Auto-targetter that will make you lock them instantly when they shoot you, 2 volleys later, no more drone.
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Karhig Duruckhai
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Posted - 2004.03.28 13:16:00 -
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I think this has been mentioned before but...
The issue here isn't whether Interceptors are good or not, they're exceptionally good at what they're intended for, they're obviously crap against a BattleShip. WTF are you doing fighting a BS in a frigate you crazy crazy lady?!?! Seriously, they're frigates, they're s****y, **** hot fast, massively fast locking frigates, but they're still frigates.
Thats the bottom line, irrespective of cost, they're designed for intercepting frigates, and possibly cruisers, you go up against a BS, your going to get burnt.
The only reason why you use a normal frigate against a BS is because they're cheap, its not because they're good. Frigates are not good against BSs, certainly not unless they have numbers and the BS doesn't have drones. Normal frigates are so cheap though that it doesn't matter that they get blown up all the time. Interceptors aren't cheap, but this doesn't mean they're rubbish, it just means you have to use them carefully, for their intended purpose, not as cheap cannon fodder.
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Joe
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Posted - 2004.03.28 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Joe on 28/03/2004 14:38:44
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I could get large hybrid level 5 in that time
You could almost train up Itty 5 to 
Edit* you wouldn't believe what i spelt wrong...
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Lusiphur
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Posted - 2004.03.28 14:48:00 -
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God, some people need to go back to school for readin comprehension 
She was trying to intercept (you know, warp scramble etc) the BS so her firends could kill it. SHE DIDNT FIGHT THE BS AND EXPECT TO WIN.
TBH, an interceptor should have a good enough chance to survive against a BS long enough to do its job. That is all she is saying. ie it should be hard to target.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.03.28 15:36:00 -
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Awesome pilots can do incredible things with Intys. Ive seen 2 of them survive a 15vs15 fleet battle that lasted 20mins, having scrambled 2 BSs.
If your a crap pilot then its your problem. And try a tracking destabalizer instead of the sensor booster. Or use 2 MWDs.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.28 16:07:00 -
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Awesome pilots can do incredible things with Intys. Ive seen 2 of them survive a 15vs15 fleet battle that lasted 20mins, having scrambled 2 BSs.
If your a crap pilot then its your problem. And try a tracking destabalizer instead of the sensor booster. Or use 2 MWDs.
Did you eventually kill Loctar's Crow?
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XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.03.28 16:17:00 -
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Interceptors are frigates, that's why they die like frigates. There is no real advantage with them, it's just that the pilot uses an interceptor more carefully, that's why they usually don't die so fast.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.03.28 16:18:00 -
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interceptors look kewl >.>
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Richard Gee
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Posted - 2004.03.28 16:25:00 -
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Um... just a reference question here. What is the deffinition of an interceptor? I know currently intercepters (as in real life) an intercepter is designed to take on other fighters and "intercept" fighters out to get your bombers. To me, if you carry that over to our terms, an interceptor should be intercepting other frigates and the like. Sure it should be able to do standard frigate roles (like scrambling BS) but I don't see why it should be better at that role than another frigate. IF interceptors are what I think they are. Is there an "official" deffinition?
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.28 17:27:00 -
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We use them to detain people untill battleships and cruisers can warp scramble and statis webify. You can barely engage a pod with them because their fire power is negligable.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Anede
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Posted - 2004.03.28 18:01:00 -
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Ive seen 2 of them survive a 15vs15 fleet battle that lasted 20mins, having scrambled 2 BSs.
Nighthawk and I survived the latest fleet battles in Fade in our crows, one of which lasted 45 minutes and had 80 people in.
The only problem interceptors (and all frigates) have with battleships are wrecking shots. Don't me wrong, lucky hits should definatly be in the game but blasters with a 3km optimal range hitting a frigate 150km away doing 3500m/sec flying at a tangent for a wrecking shot is just silly. They need to obey the same calculation as the rest of the shots.
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Brunis
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Posted - 2004.03.28 20:46:00 -
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You attacked a 100 mil ship, alone, with a 7 mil ship, and youre surprised you lost?
Why do people say that?
A tank is also expensive and can easely kill a soldier,
but give that soldier a cheap and light bazoka and the tank is dead (if the soldier can find out how to use the bazoka  )
/Brunis
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Nyrram
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Posted - 2004.03.29 07:39:00 -
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Someone mentioned this earlier, but the discussion seems to have lost it somewhere..
The current batch of interceptors are based on the LOWEST fighting-class ships.. so comparing them to elite frigates is not the way to go.. comparing a Claw to a Rifter is irrelevant.. you should ask yourself how much better the Claw is than the Slasher it's based on, and salivate at how good the Rifter-based intercepter might be, assuming they ever make it.
As for targeting times, Sally.. how many fights have you been in where the time it took you to target your enemy made all the difference? If you can get him targeted and jammed before he gets you targeted and jammed..
And no, you wouldn't go solo against a bship in any frigate and expect to pop it.. you need backup for that. But the interceptor is the best frigate for the job of throwing the net on your target..
It's alot more expensive than any other frig, and so maybe it's not worth the extra cash for a few seconds targeting time, some speed, and a mid slot, but it still IS better as an ECM than any of the current frigs, and if they release more of them, they should only get better..
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.03.29 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Daxit on 28/03/2004 05:37:04
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I do know that building one costs round 2-2.5M
Fester, you either:
1) Found an interceptor that is amazingly cheaper than most others to build,
2) Managed to get a bpo for an interceptor researched to a high ME already,
3) Have found a large supply of dirt cheap t2 components, or
4) Don't actually know jack about the building cost of an interceptor
Well lets see,
1: Stiletto, I dont know if its cheeper or more expensive than other interceptors but thats the one I have the build costs for.
2: Yes its a BPO but as far as I know the ME wont affect tech 2 component required thus increasing ME will lower the cost somwhere in the vicinity of 20k
3: aparently this is the one i have managed, I have however calculated the value of the build price using a component cost of 10k each.
4: you are right here, I still have 3 days till I can actually build the damn things.
Btw, if anyone is interested in trading a BPC for one of the other interceptor BPC I am very interested.
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2004.03.29 12:33:00 -
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Do interceptors make good executive shuttles?
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.03.29 13:09:00 -
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"As for targeting times, Sally.. how many fights have you been in where the time it took you to target your enemy made all the difference"
Um, literally 95% of fights. Especially if your a tackler or a jammer.
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ShinRa
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Adliger Krieger
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Posted - 2004.03.29 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Adliger Krieger on 29/03/2004 13:35:40
Edited by: Adliger Krieger on 29/03/2004 13:29:23
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And don't tell me frigates or interceptors aren't for intercepting battleships please, that's the only purpose of them for me and I am only a bit upset that a Vigil, Griffin or Merlin can do the job as good as a an interceptor.
NTRabbit in his limited wisdom:
If you want to use them for something that they arent designed for we wont stop you, but it doesnt give you the right to ***** about them not being as good in the role they arent designed for as you want them to be
You are kidding right? Of course they are supposed to hold BS's, and any other ship they want. The already low Scan resolution and slow tracking speed of the BS's guns is what makes the Interceptors more effective vs Battleship that any other class. If I was in an Interceptor I would be more afraid of a Kestral with 4 launchers than a BS. That is because, like Sally said, they are still not much of an improvement over standard Frigs.
Can you show me where it says Interceptors should not attempt to hold a Battleship?
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Valeria
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Posted - 2004.03.29 13:48:00 -
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Just lost mine to a wrecking shot. Two battleships shooting me for ages without a scratch and then boom, all of a sudden their magical 1400mm howitzer manages to track me and instantly vaporize my 1200 hitpoint ship.
But supposedly they are nerfing wrecking hits. I know I won't be flying an Interceptor again until they do.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.29 13:49:00 -
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Patch Review is full of Minmatar's who think they've already been nerfed.
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.03.29 13:58:00 -
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Elite frigates rock tbh.
I can drop the shields on a tanked battleship, I can web and scramble 95% of ships before they warp out, from a starting point of 40km away. I can outrun missiles, I can smash drones.
People are willing to pay so much for a slightly better ship because it does make a difference.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.29 14:05:00 -
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Elite frigates rock tbh.
I can drop the shields on a tanked battleship, I can web and scramble 95% of ships before they warp out, from a starting point of 40km away. I can outrun missiles, I can smash drones.
People are willing to pay so much for a slightly better ship because it does make a difference.
I'd like you to show me how you drop the shields of my tanked ship in a frigate. ROFL.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.03.29 14:54:00 -
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You can barely engage a pod with them because their fire power is negligable.
You have obviously never flown a Taranis.
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Kirsten
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Posted - 2004.03.29 15:37:00 -
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I can drop the shields on a tanked battleship
and todays forum clown is
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