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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.28 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Sally on 28/03/2004 01:36:13
Hahahaha.
So I did some intercepting of battleships with a Vigil, Merlin, Griffin, partly with success.
Now I got me a Stiletto for 7 Million ISK and it takes a Tempest (1 seonsor booster) 11 seconds to lock me.
WOW!
By the time the support comes in I am as dead as I would be in a Vigil or any other good frigate.
The interceptors are nothing more than better frigates, they don't deserve the name interceptor and I want to warn everyone who consider wasting the skill time and ISK, they suck big time if you want to intercept battleships with them. If you go for frigate vs. frigate combat they are fine, but you can have the fun for 1/30 of the price.
Also freaking sad that every battleship with a MWD is a much better interceptor than the interceptors themself.
Wtg CCP.
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Posted - 2004.03.28 00:52:00 -
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the tempest shot u to death?
i'd say lock times r irrelevant when it comes to interceptors.. u should be more afraid of drones than guns.
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Posted - 2004.03.28 00:59:00 -
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i disagree
bcuz, an interceptor is hard to catch if you use it right
put 3 mwd on a minmatar one and u get 120km/s
okey sure, your cap will die after 1 cycle but hey, who are able to catch you?
no one...
but of course, i get 18km/s in my rifter..
we toasted 1 interceptor from the enemy fleet,..
while they couldnt catch me ,,, they popped up 26km behind me and i thank the gods thats we use teamspeak so i got the warning from my alliance mates.
but i still prefer an interceptor even if the price is high. if you handle it right, ull be okey.
the guy with the interceptor had a big mounth.. but no skills.. oh well..
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Posted - 2004.03.28 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Shevar on 28/03/2004 01:01:44
Not really, anything can gank you, but hej the stiletto has 4 med slots 3 racials should jam him up i believe? 
Also what idiot goes head on to a battleship in a frigate? They are decent support ships but really, even trying to attack a bs alone in them is funny 
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.28 01:36:00 -
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the tempest shot u to death?
i'd say lock times r irrelevant when it comes to interceptors.. u should be more afraid of drones than guns.
Yeah, they are irrelevant, because they should be much higher and no, they are not irrelevant because interceptors suck.
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Isiana
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Posted - 2004.03.28 01:38:00 -
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Also what idiot goes head on to a battleship in a frigate? They are decent support ships but really, even trying to attack a bs alone in them is funny
who said anything about being alone?
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.28 01:39:00 -
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i disagree
bcuz, an interceptor is hard to catch if you use it right
put 3 mwd on a minmatar one and u get 120km/s
okey sure, your cap will die after 1 cycle but hey, who are able to catch you?
no one...
but of course, i get 18km/s in my rifter..
we toasted 1 interceptor from the enemy fleet,..
while they couldnt catch me ,,, they popped up 26km behind me and i thank the gods thats we use teamspeak so i got the warning from my alliance mates.
but i still prefer an interceptor even if the price is high. if you handle it right, ull be okey.
the guy with the interceptor had a big mounth.. but no skills.. oh well..
I can fly 120km/s in a Vigil as well, but once you use 3 MWDs how are you going to intercept someone???
For me it was 1 MWD, 1 webifier, 1 warp jammer, 1 sensor dampener: basic configuration for intercepting a battleship. But I can do that with every good frigate as well, the role bonus of the interceptor is just a bad joke.
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Ankh
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Posted - 2004.03.28 01:40:00 -
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Yup, a stilletto versus a bs is gonna lose, why am I not surprised?
I have a claw and the extra slots and speed makes a it useful little ship for missions and npc spawns in medium security systems. Like you though, I'm scratching my head to work out how its worth the extra isk versus a rifter.
The present batch of interceptors are based on entry level frigates. How many slashers do you see flying around? Maybe a tech 2 interceptor based on the rifter will better live up to expectations.
(I hope so...)
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.03.28 01:40:00 -
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The wrecking shots need to follow normal rules. Aside from that Interceptors are great. You just don't know how to use them proberly.
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2004.03.28 01:50:00 -
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Iterceptors are meant to intercept Battleships... If you had the interceptor equiped properly you wouldn't have been disposed of so fast. So next time your in an Interceptor and see a Tempest, do the smart thing and run.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.03.28 01:55:00 -
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Naturally we are going to have to consider 2 things here.
1: how good are the interceptors as compared to other friggs, after all they are simply hotted upp friggs, noone has claimed differently.
As compared to other friggs the stiletto will make a far better frigg electronic warfare suport ship as compared to the other ones.
How it fares as compared to a cruiser playing that role I am not sure but that is a flawed comparasin as the stiletto and all the other interceptors are friggs.
2: We must naturally here consider where the original post is comming from.
Sally is a pirate and an unplesant one at that, what if she takes to the skies in her new stiletto and notices hey, this thing is awesome, better post somthing about them being crap so noone else uses em on me.
We have seen that kind of posts on everything thus far, agent missions, fail some and you will get better rewards, R&D keep restarting your research and you have a better chance of getting...
Im not saying she is doing this but can we really trust Sally?
No offence Sally, you are good at what you do aparently wich is one of the reasons I have to doubt what you are saying :)
Lastly then, are interceptors worth their price?
I dont know, I do know that building one costs round 2-2.5M if you buy one off the market you will probably have to pay minimum 4 times that, so in short you are paying for a top notch cruiser and getting a souped upp frigg, its clearly a rick players toy, especially considering the skill requirements for it :)
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.03.28 02:58:00 -
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By the time the support comes in I am as dead as I would be in a Vigil or any other good frigate.
I think thats the start of your problem there Sally.
Out of interest though - how come you hadn't just warped out after scramming the target? You don't need to stay there afterall, especially if the troops are on the ball.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:02:00 -
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Iterceptors are meant to intercept Battleships... If you had the interceptor equiped properly you wouldn't have been disposed of so fast. So next time your in an Interceptor and see a Tempest, do the smart thing and run.
Uh, it wasn't a Tempest. The locking time I got was from test with a corp mate.
The role bonus is just a joke, that's it. From reading it one could think it takes ages to lock up an interceptor, which isn't true.
And don't tell me frigates or interceptors aren't for intercepting battleships please, that's the only purpose of them for me and I am only a bit upset that a Vigil, Griffin or Merlin can do the job as good as a an interceptor.
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:03:00 -
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Iterceptors are meant to intercept Battleships... If you had the interceptor equiped properly you wouldn't have been disposed of so fast. So next time your in an Interceptor and see a Tempest, do the smart thing and run.
Right now id just like to point out the freaking obvious - Interceptors are NOT meant to Intercept Battleships, they are meant to intercept other frigates and industrials. Killing battleships is what bombers, and to a lesser extent Escorts are for.
Anyone who thinks they can take on battleships easily in their lonely interceptor deserves to get smoked.
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:05:00 -
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And don't tell me frigates or interceptors aren't for intercepting battleships please, that's the only purpose of them for me and I am only a bit upset that a Vigil, Griffin or Merlin can do the job as good as a an interceptor.
If you want to use them for something that they arent designed for we wont stop you, but it doesnt give you the right to ***** about them not being as good in the role they arent designed for as you want them to be
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:07:00 -
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By the time the support comes in I am as dead as I would be in a Vigil or any other good frigate.
I think thats the start of your problem there Sally.
Out of interest though - how come you hadn't just warped out after scramming the target? You don't need to stay there afterall, especially if the troops are on the ball.
Huh? What's the meaning for scramming please? (Sorry not native english speaker and my dictionary doesn't know the word.)
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:09:00 -
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Sorry Sally I keep forgetting that... my apologies.
Warp Scrambling.. can you not just scramble the target and warp-out, the effect stays on for the duration of the cycle even if you are turning to warp out?
i.e. warp in, scram em, warp out - target stays scrambled for x seconds at whichpoint your own heavy ships should be there.
As you say though - possible to do that in a normal frigate anyway, just the window for getting away yourself is lower as they can lock you faster. No?
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:10:00 -
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Iterceptors are meant to intercept Battleships... If you had the interceptor equiped properly you wouldn't have been disposed of so fast. So next time your in an Interceptor and see a Tempest, do the smart thing and run.
Right now id just like to point out the freaking obvious - Interceptors are NOT meant to Intercept Battleships, they are meant to intercept other frigates and industrials. Killing battleships is what bombers, and to a lesser extent Escorts are for.
Anyone who thinks they can take on battleships easily in their lonely interceptor deserves to get smoked.
LOL!
What good is the role bonus then please?
The 10% each level is only relevant for huge locking times not for the locking times inbetween a same class.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:15:00 -
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Sorry Sally I keep forgetting that... my apologies.
Warp Scrambling.. can you not just scramble the target and warp-out, the effect stays on for the duration of the cycle even if you are turning to warp out?
i.e. warp in, scram em, warp out - target stays scrambled for x seconds at whichpoint your own heavy ships should be there.
As you say though - possible to do that in a normal frigate anyway, just the window for getting away yourself is lower as they can lock you faster. No?
Yeah, I understand now, thanks for the explaination, same goes for MWDing away and coming back.
To be honest I don't like this game mechanic and I am trying to avoid it at its best, I always try to stay until someone else has new warp warp jam and webify on, then I try to get out.
I think it is a flaw in the game mechanics. A target jammer e.g. can unlock someone but he still keeps being warp jammed, that doesn't make any sense to me, that's why I am not using it.
The cycle should be interruptable IMHO.
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Carmen Priano
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:18:00 -
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Hey Sally; what level of interceptor skill did you have when testing? Because that -10% is per level of interceptor skill, after all, and y'could perhaps increase the locking time further with higher skill.
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:18:00 -
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Iterceptors are meant to intercept Battleships... If you had the interceptor equiped properly you wouldn't have been disposed of so fast. So next time your in an Interceptor and see a Tempest, do the smart thing and run.
Right now id just like to point out the freaking obvious - Interceptors are NOT meant to Intercept Battleships, they are meant to intercept other frigates and industrials. Killing battleships is what bombers, and to a lesser extent Escorts are for.
Anyone who thinks they can take on battleships easily in their lonely interceptor deserves to get smoked.
LOL!
What good is the role bonus then please?
The 10% each level is only relevant for huge locking times not for the locking times inbetween a same class.
To slow down the amount of time it takes for a ship to lock you, any ship... that doesnt mean you need to go out and fight the largest ship you can find on your own because the role bonus is most effective against the largest ships.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:19:00 -
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No offence Sally, you are good at what you do aparently wich is one of the reasons I have to doubt what you are saying :)
Sssh, you revealed my original intention of the post, my panties are down now, I am feeling so naked  .
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:20:00 -
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Edited by: Sally on 28/03/2004 01:36:13
Hahahaha.
So I did some intercepting of battleships with a Vigil, Merlin, Griffin, partly with success.
Now I got me a Stiletto for 7 Million ISK and it takes a Tempest (1 seonsor booster) 11 seconds to lock me.
WOW!
By the time the support comes in I am as dead as I would be in a Vigil or any other good frigate.
The interceptors are nothing more than better frigates, they don't deserve the name interceptor and I want to warn everyone who consider wasting the skill time and ISK, they suck big time if you want to intercept battleships with them. If you go for frigate vs. frigate combat they are fine, but you can have the fun for 1/30 of the price.
Also freaking sad that every battleship with a MWD is a much better interceptor than the interceptors themself.
Wtg CCP.
You didnt used the interceptor properly:
You are a frigate killer, you take out the ships of your enemy.
Currently im in my seconds interceptor, in my first interceptor i took out 13 ships:
2 Bestowers
1 bb
1 raptor
1 executioner
1 kestrel
1 moa
1 rifter
1 punisher
3 noobships and a pod that was used as a scout and for the enemy that i count therefor. (i didnt shot the ship that held the pod it was there for 4 days).
So what it basicly comes down too is that your there to take out there support, cut off their supply lines of lone frigates/cruisers etc. Also its great to take out a great part of industrial trafic.
Im now in my second interceptor due to the fact that the guy in a rifter was better and smarter in that fight, he set the score back to 1-1. Why wasn't i popped by a battleship? Because with all the long range battles, that aquire 2x sensor boosters you dont stand a chance.
Sure you can use an interceptor the way evol does or m0o... but thats what you better can use frigates for... and then use the interceptor to take those frigates out, intercept them so your own crew goes home safe.
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:21:00 -
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To slow down the amount of time it takes for a ship to lock you, any ship... that doesnt mean you need to go out and fight the largest ship you can find on your own because the role bonus is most effective against the largest ships.
Yeah, overrated against battleships. As I said in my original post in bold.
Beside that, they rule, I microsmartbombed an Ibis and Shuttle myself today . Including pods  .
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.28 03:25:00 -
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Hey Sally; what level of interceptor skill did you have when testing? Because that -10% is per level of interceptor skill, after all, and y'could perhaps increase the locking time further with higher skill.
I will do that for sure. I had 2, going to 5.
Regardless of the dudes moaning here, there is a way to render a sensor strength 14 battleship with drones and missiles completly useless with one frigate and when some TL2 ECM is out I am going to give the Stiletto for battleship intercepting a new try, meanwhile I stick with them for low profile target ganking.
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Posted - 2004.03.28 05:34:00 -
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Edited by: Daxit on 28/03/2004 05:37:04
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I do know that building one costs round 2-2.5M
Fester, you either:
1) Found an interceptor that is amazingly cheaper than most others to build,
2) Managed to get a bpo for an interceptor researched to a high ME already,
3) Have found a large supply of dirt cheap t2 components, or
4) Don't actually know jack about the building cost of an interceptor
The cost of building an interceptor is high because the stupid components are overpriced on most markets. I try to buy our needed components at no more than 20k isk MAX if at all possible. This is why several groups manufacturing interceptors offer BYOC + isk deals that can actually be a bit cheaper for the buyer if they can get cheaper components. It takes one of our members several hours a week to locate and purchase enough components cheap enough to keep the price at a reasonable level.
If you still want to try and claim that interceptors cost 2.5m to make, please, post the screenshots of the bpo you're basing this nonsense off of and then explain where the heck you're finding dirt cheap components in large enough quantities to drop the production price to 2.5mil. I'd love a 4mil profit margin... but that's way more than our actual profit margin. FYI, we have the Crusader bpo.
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Posted - 2004.03.28 06:03:00 -
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You attacked a 100 mil ship, alone, with a 7 mil ship, and youre surprised you lost?
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Posted - 2004.03.28 06:12:00 -
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You attacked a 100 mil ship, alone, with a 7 mil ship, and youre surprised you lost?
Not going to argue with you. You are teh win!
Or...
I'd like to know where I stated that I attacked someone alone?
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.03.28 07:37:00 -
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In the proper hands an interceptor is the best ship for its role. I have been converted. If ppl can figure out how to use them, too bad. As for the price, its a small price to pay.
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Neil Crow
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Posted - 2004.03.28 08:04:00 -
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Fleet warps to battleship.
Battleship warps to a planet 20au away.
Interceptor warps to the same planet.
Interceptor gets where way before the battleship.
Battleship = intercepted and will now *most* likely get warp scrambled and killed when the rest of the gang warps in.
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