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Rezeerb	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:51:00 - [1] Erm, Hyperion running 2 large reppers and with 37.5% bonus to them, blasters and the works....how the hell would you go about killing one? At the moment i fly an Armageddon...would an Abaddon do it or? Hyperion's are a bit sick with that rep bonus. Not complaining or nout before you think, just want to know
Nianda SeCann	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:00:00 - [2] Try attacking its cap. I use one from time to time and find with a high gank fitting (or with the set-up you mentioned) I have to keep an eye on cap. So either drain his cap or try and outlast him. Don't fly amarr so can't comment on which ship to use. soz
Rezeerb	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:03:00 - [3] i got a pulse laser geddon. and i only got a heavy nos on. what good will that do lol..
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:06:00 - [4] Unless you know you can shoot the brains out of anyone, i dont think you will cut it. Hyperion tank is nasty and i would bet he would outlast you. Your best bet is to go passive plates and swap your hvy nos for a hvy neut. This might break his tank/cap.
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:09:00 - [5] Okay, okay, here it is guys. 2 heavy neuts 2 heavy cap boosters rest is gank style Take his cap out quickly, take out his armor b4 you run out of cap. Good luck.
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:12:00 - [6] pasive tanked gedon will do transformers!! do u see them ?
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:21:00 - [7] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter pasive tanked gedon will do pft...
xyeLz	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:26:00 - [8] 2x Tracking Disruptor w/ script, MWD, some nano and a single faction web (13-15km). Can easily either nerf his neut range or his tracking and keep him at 13-15km I think. Neuts and Nos are nice, but with cap injectors (and a nice set of midslots) it's not an end to all. Dual T2 Disruptor give about a 40% modifier on optimal or tracking. A Heavy Neutron blaster has about 3km Optimal, quite a bit lower even with Antimatter which makes it such a powerful gank. I doubt a Hyp can get a range of 32k optimal (13k webrange / 0.4 optimal modifier) on blasters without gimping damage. If so, you just fly away and warp out. The 13km web isn't very strong, but he cannot web you while you can web him, it barely requires an AB to stay ahead of him. Not a bad idea, consider it.
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:28:00 - [9] Nano Armageddon, now i've heard everything.
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:29:00 - [10] There's probably no ship(not counting caps), which can brake the tank of the hyperion. But his cap will most probably die in < 4mins, so you just kill his drones and try to move as much is possible, cuz large ions are very bad and tracking and range.
L70Rogue	Posted - 2008.02.04 21:38:00 - [11] Hyperion is a terrible ship and the bonus sucks. It should be quite easy to kill one because it caps out so fast.
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.02.04 21:40:00 - [12] A geddon with a buffer tank and 3x heatsink and 7x mega pulse II,if you dont have good gunnery skills however dont even think about using this. This is what happens when a kestrel with thermal missiles declares war on earth
Sean Dillon Caldari Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.02.04 21:53:00 - [13] Yesterday I had a go at it with a neutralizer domi, nearly killed the hype's cap but it did to many dps to sustain. A nano ship prolly wont cut it, or has to wait for the hype to run outa boosters. Another close range bs might work if u overload it.
Alyth Gallente Dichotomy	Posted - 2008.02.04 22:25:00 - [14] Originally by: Edriahn There's probably no ship(not counting caps), which can brake the tank of the hyperion. But his cap will most probably die in < 4mins, so you just kill his drones and try to move as much is possible, cuz large ions are very bad and tracking and range. I suggest you go watch videos of a nice guy called Cown killing Hyperions fairly regularly in a buffer tanked Abaddon. ------------------------------------------- Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.02.04 22:33:00 - [15] Originally by: Edriahn There's probably no ship(not counting caps), which can brake the tank of the hyperion. But his cap will most probably die in < 4mins, so you just kill his drones and try to move as much is possible, cuz large ions are very bad and tracking and range. I completely disagree. I broke the cap of a Hyperion in a Drake. . . By broke I mean shot him ineffectively until he ran outta booster charges then sat there for another 5 minutes and had him down to 25% armor. Lamest fight ever
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.04 22:55:00 - [16] Originally by: Perfect Diamond Originally by: wierchas noobhunter pasive tanked gedon will do pft... yeah and only cos pasive geddon > mega don't joke transformers!! do u see them ?
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:12:00 - [17] Originally by: Alyth I suggest you go watch videos of a nice guy called Cown killing Hyperions fairly regularly in a buffer tanked Abaddon. Waiting for the hype to get out of boosters doesn't mean breaking the tank. If you were reading more carefuly, you should have seen that I suggested exactly the same as the only way to beat it - stay alive til he cap dies. As long as it has cap it will tank any single battleship and still deal about 800 DPS. Ofc there are many guys outthere, who don't have a clue in fitting, but have spare money. 2 days ago I saw a hype, fitted with neutrons, heavy NOS, no cap booster and DCU and afterburner...
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:19:00 - [18] Originally by: Edriahn Originally by: Alyth I suggest you go watch videos of a nice guy called Cown killing Hyperions fairly regularly in a buffer tanked Abaddon. Waiting for the hype to get out of boosters doesn't mean breaking the tank. If you were reading more carefuly, you should have seen that I suggested exactly the same as the only way to beat it - stay alive til he cap dies. As long as it has cap it will tank any single battleship and still deal about 800 DPS. Ofc there are many guys outthere, who don't have a clue in fitting, but have spare money. 2 days ago I saw a hype, fitted with neutrons, heavy NOS, no cap booster and DCU and afterburner... dude hype prety much will not tank more then 1000 dps ( its posible but it would make u burn cap like no tomorrow) even so his cap will last few minutes and fitting other bs u will end just turning of your guns and concentrating on your reps still there loads of bs that can do more then 1000 dps ( all tier3 bs, mega, geddon, gank domi) transformers!! do u see them ?
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:27:00 - [19] U sure... dude?
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:29:00 - [20] Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 04/02/2008 23:29:06 Originally by: Edriahn U sure... dude? yes 1013 dps taked with setup i would newer fit transformers!! do u see them ?
mama guru Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:34:00 - [21] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 04/02/2008 23:29:06 Originally by: Edriahn U sure... dude? yes 1013 dps taked with setup i would newer fit Unless you got some serious implants or faction Heatsinks you wont hit 1k dps without the use of heavy drones. However, catch that hyperion with some webber drones at around 21km and you will win. *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected]) EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:37:00 - [22] Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 04/02/2008 23:44:32 Originally by: mama guru Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 04/02/2008 23:29:06 Originally by: Edriahn U sure... dude? yes 1013 dps taked with setup i would newer fit Unless you got some serious implants or faction Heatsinks you wont hit 1k dps without the use of heavy drones. However, catch that hyperion with some webber drones at around 21km and you will win. its tanked ... sorry than not explained before and heatsinks is for lasers transformers!! do u see them ?
mama guru Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:40:00 - [23] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter its tanked ... sorry than not explained before and jeatsinks is for lasers NVM me, its late and i thought you were bragging about your geddon skillz as if it was still 2005. I should have read more then 1 of your posts in this thread before quoting ya *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected]) EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:43:00 - [24] Lol, post a screen of your EFT fitting, may be I'm not reading its numbers properly... :)
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:45:00 - [25] Originally by: mama guru Originally by: wierchas noobhunter its tanked ... sorry than not explained before and jeatsinks is for lasers NVM me, its late and i thought you were bragging about your geddon skillz as if it was still 2005. I should have read more then 1 of your posts in this thread before quoting ya i don't even fly amarr transformers!! do u see them ?
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:48:00 - [26] Originally by: Edriahn Lol, post a screen of your EFT fitting, may be I'm not reading its numbers properly... :) max tank no implants what so ever 2x large reps II 3x hardeners II, dmg controler II 2x nano pumps 1x nanobot accelerator bit over 1k dps tanked transformers!! do u see them ?
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:50:00 - [27] Edited by: Perfect Diamond on 04/02/2008 23:53:24 I on the other hand fly amarr exclusively. Been flying the abaddon lately but looking forward to getting back into the geddon for some cheap gank setups. Originally by: mama guru However, catch that hyperion with some webber drones at around 21km and you will win. A good hype setup will have a web, he might have to overheat his web to catch your drones, but if he does catch them, your drones are dead since their close to his optimal. Plus he'll light drones to kill your web drones.
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:51:00 - [28] Edited by: Perfect Diamond on 04/02/2008 23:52:13 nvm
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.02.05 06:58:00 - [29] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter max tank no implants what so ever 2x large reps II 3x hardeners II, dmg controler II 2x nano pumps 1x nanobot accelerator bit over 1k dps tanked You tryied to turn off the MWD? Sustained 638 Reinforced 909 DPS 784 4 min 16 sec cap
Eisprinzessin	Posted - 2008.02.05 11:11:00 - [30] i have flown a hype a lot for missions and it is a by far better mission ship than a dominix because of travel time vs instant damage and so on in pvp its main fitting is for maximum tank and no it is not outtanked by a dominix not even close everyone that has tryed to fit a domi for maximum tank and fitt anything usefull in high slots wil know tha in a 1 vs 1 a hype will most likely never lose to a dominix the last dominix i killed with my hype went down so fast i did not even lose my hole schield (given the domi was not well fitted)
joshmorris Silver Snake Enterprise SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.05 11:34:00 - [31] Hyperions are very good small gang / solo ships. But if u really wanna kill him solo try LOTS of damage small tank but 5x heavy ecm for your drones. This way you can jam him 60% of the time and hopefully outlast him. Uber idea solves all !!
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.05 11:42:00 - [32] Originally by: Edriahn Originally by: wierchas noobhunter max tank no implants what so ever 2x large reps II 3x hardeners II, dmg controler II 2x nano pumps 1x nanobot accelerator bit over 1k dps tanked You tryied to turn off the MWD? Sustained 638 Reinforced 909 DPS 784 4 min 16 sec cap yes i did tho don't forget guns ... and if u get 909 dps your skills somewhere sucks :0 transformers!! do u see them ?
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.05 11:48:00 - [33] Originally by: Eisprinzessin i have flown a hype a lot for missions and it is a by far better mission ship than a dominix because of travel time vs instant damage and so on in pvp its main fitting is for maximum tank and no it is not outtanked by a dominix not even close everyone that has tryed to fit a domi for maximum tank and fitt anything usefull in high slots wil know tha in a 1 vs 1 a hype will most likely never lose to a dominix the last dominix i killed with my hype went down so fast i did not even lose my hole schield (given the domi was not well fitted) its funny but domi is way better bs for pvp and missions .. hint try centry drones an d i would take hype 1x1 on my domi anytime i dont say that hype is bad bs, but it is way outclassed my mega for dmg, domi can have better tank only for fraction of cost with no tracking bonus it sucks for fleet, and active tanking is kinda meh specially for bs thats main weapon system is is so cap eating transformers!! do u see them ?
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.02.05 12:12:00 - [34] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter domi can have better tank only for fraction of cost I wanna see that, please. Also the hyperion can deal 1336 DPS with maxed skills and last time I checked the mega was only 1322 with 4x MFS II and nobody would fit so many. i though we agreed that when you turn off the MWD things chage a lot. And you are pretty wrong about the tracking. You are not taking the hyperion out to fight vagas, nanoishtars and shoot ceptors. Your are flying it to fight battlecruisers, battleships, etc. So please, give us a screen of your fittings, share with us.
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.05 12:24:00 - [35] Originally by: Edriahn Originally by: wierchas noobhunter domi can have better tank only for fraction of cost I wanna see that, please. Also the hyperion can deal 1336 DPS with maxed skills and last time I checked the mega was only 1322 with 4x MFS II and nobody would fit so many. i though we agreed that when you turn off the MWD things chage a lot. And you are pretty wrong about the tracking. You are not taking the hyperion out to fight vagas, nanoishtars and shoot ceptors. Your are flying it to fight battlecruisers, battleships, etc. So please, give us a screen of your fittings, share with us. i sad about fleet that no tracking for long range = fail ps setting eft for all skill to lvl 5 = fail tho don't forget that with max dps u will not have any tank but mega gona have well maybe like 50k armor ... transformers!! do u see them ?
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.02.05 12:44:00 - [36] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter i sad about fleet that no tracking for long range = fail ps setting eft for all skill to lvl 5 = fail tho don't forget that with max dps u will not have any tank but mega gona have well maybe like 50k armor ... 50k armor? Ahahaha, dude, you live in a paralel universe? It's more like 28k armor with pathetic resistslike 72/55/55/38 and it's slow as hell. You know this mega works only for station camping, right? You started with the numbers, so don't be scared by them now. No tracking, lol, what? You ever heard of tracking comps? They do pretty good for med range with 350mm. Maxed DPS - no tank, that's the deal. But you can tank the neutron mega for as long as you have boosters and still deal 800 DPS. How's that? And I still wait to see the dominix that will outtank a hyperion.
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.05 12:51:00 - [37] Originally by: Edriahn Originally by: wierchas noobhunter i sad about fleet that no tracking for long range = fail ps setting eft for all skill to lvl 5 = fail tho don't forget that with max dps u will not have any tank but mega gona have well maybe like 50k armor ... 50k armor? Ahahaha, dude, you live in a paralel universe? It's more like 28k armor with pathetic resistslike 72/55/55/38 and it's slow as hell. You know this mega works only for station camping, right? You started with the numbers, so don't be scared by them now. No tracking, lol, what? You ever heard of tracking comps? They do pretty good for med range with 350mm. Maxed DPS - no tank, that's the deal. But you can tank the neutron mega for as long as you have boosters and still deal 800 DPS. How's that? And I still wait to see the dominix that will outtank a hyperion. u live in pararel universe tbh ... and yeah domi that outanks hype .. oki here we go .. 2x large reps II, 3x hardeners II, dmg controler II, eanm II 2x rep amont 1x time rigs 2x heavy cap boosters II 6x medium neutron guns ~ 750 dps ~ 1000 dps tanked transformers!! do u see them ?
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.02.05 13:13:00 - [38] It do not outtank hyperion, neither outdamges it. Don't know where you are getting your numbers from. Please, gimee screen.
Cpt Cosmic	Posted - 2008.02.05 13:27:00 - [39] hype is a one trick pony, and a slow as hell one, just move outside optimal and you will be fine :)
Kharak'khan Bad Temper's	Posted - 2008.02.05 13:41:00 - [40] use a plated gank geddon and fit 5 heavy wasp ECM drones they are so overpowered he will be like WTF im jammed :P
El Torrent Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.02.05 20:13:00 - [41] Dominix can tank a gank thron. A 7 slot armor tank has kinetic / thermal over 80%. If you compare one ships damage output against another ones tank, considering resistances are very important. --
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.02.05 20:26:00 - [42] So, I got a question. Would a hyperion or a dominix do better for clearing anamolies and exploration sites? I'm thinking dominix.
El Torrent Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.02.05 20:43:00 - [43] Originally by: Perfect Diamond So, I got a question. Would a hyperion or a dominix do better for clearing anamolies and exploration sites? I'm thinking dominix. I'd also think dominix. --

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