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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.02.10 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 10/02/2008 22:04:14
Just so everyone is clear on it, as I already said, I will not be posting further reports on the war before about a week of the war is over. Neither will we be answering the smacktalk by Outlaw Jenner much. I think the audience has by now figured out how truthful he is in his reports and claims, and I have no wish to insult anyone's intelligence or bore everyone to death by "is not! is too!" with someone who is not just twisting the truth but completely making it up.
If someone is deathly curious, kindly contact me in pod.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Diplomat
Electus Matari
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Trip Jenner
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Posted - 2008.02.15 08:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 08/02/2008 10:34:56
Jenner's bunch of merry smacktalkers are griefers, ore-thieves, harassers of rookies and industrials, and general petty criminals in Republic high security space. While it is true that we usually want to concentrate our patrolling efforts on pirates who actually amount to something and provide a challenge, there is only so much noise we can ignore from these even lower scum. (Outlaw) Jenner's crossed the line -- I guess that is an achievement of itself. (He) could, even if it sounds improbable, be even pettier.
If it stops their operations and annoys them, it's a victory.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Diplomat
Electus Matari
Please note, for what it may be worth to you, that I have taken the liberty of changing several points within your previous missive, as well as having ommitted what needed not to have been repeated.
However, if I may, I would like to respond solely upon a specific part of your missive.
I, Trip Jenner, am neither griefer, smack-talker, ore-thief nor harrasser. A Jenner I am. Any of the above-mentioned, I am not. I cannot speak for my brothers, Joker or Outlaw, but can only say that some weeks in the past, due to other circumstances moved myself out of range of the fighting, for the reason of remaining outside of the testosterone fights, the mud-slinging and the back-stabbing.
If this war must continue, I ask only that I be left alone--of my involvement in this war's occurrence, all may rest assured that I will never be found within kilometers of any figure, singular or many, involved therein.
Having taken a neutral stance away from my Brothers, I remain Jenner, and still shall be distanced from it, as well, until these fights are reduced to dust and ashes.
Good fighting to you all.
Trip Jenner
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Leon 026
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.15 09:21:00 -
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Happy hunting, Evanda. Tell my old wingmates to give 'em hell ;)
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Leon 026
Once I was fallen, now I have wings
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Darkside101
Caldari
Spartan Industries
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Posted - 2008.02.15 11:32:00 -
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At least you got yourself a half decent war this time Outlaw. Tho the odds really rnt in ur favor.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Heretic Logistics
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.15 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Number 17
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Despite my aforementioned sexual ambivalence
There I corrected that for you Ixiris-Haan.
Very mature of you, Number 17. Did they teach you non-sequitur word insertion in State Navy basic, or did you develop it yourself, thinking it was original and funny?
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.02.15 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 15/02/2008 15:27:15
After about a week of the active war, the loss statistics are as follows:
Misfits Enterprises:
* 2 battlecruisers
* 2 cruisers
* 1 destroyer
* 7 frigates
* 3 shuttles
* 9 pods
Electus Matari
* 1 destroyer
* 1 frigate (lost to CONCORD for corp unjoin trick)
We estimate Misfits Enterprises losses in isk at about 93 million, Electus Matari's at about one million.
Misfits operations in Republic space have practically ceased. The corporation is down to six members (from 26).
We have had frequent contacts from former Misfits inquiring whether we will continue aggression towards them after they are out, and explaining that they were not aware of the crimes of their leaders. Considering that, we want to state this: we will not pursue any former member of Misfits Enterprises simply because they are Misfits. We will, however, keep up war declarations on "griefer" corporations in Republic space, so we recommend you pick your company more carefully next time.
Outlaw Jenner's explanation to the diminishing numbers is that he is moving to Deklein and has just "kicked all his noobs" who are not up to that kind of space yet. If this indeed is true, we wish Mr Jenner a good fresh new start out of Republic space.
For to emphasize the point, the war will continue another week.
My personal apologies to other members of Jenner clan for generalizing without contact to clan leaders. That was uncalled-for.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Diplomat
Electus Matari
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GulletSplitter
Minmatar
Maasai Tribal Products
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2008.02.15 15:24:00 -
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Nicely done EM
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Daniel Borealis
Minmatar
Heretic Logistics
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.17 01:11:00 -
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Heh. Sorry Jenny, I have to say I saw that coming. Perhaps this will make you into a pilot that I can respect, if, heaven forbid, you learn from it.
Fly safe.
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Xavier Fate
Gallente
Oblivion Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.02.19 17:42:00 -
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Well, I say good luck EM.
The petty criminal actions of some corporations against new and inexperienced pilots is both disgusting and uncalled for.
Corporations that engage in this sort of behavior should be subject to a loss of CONCORD defense in high security. At the very least, a discounted war dec price.
Quite honestly, I say shame on CONCORD for allowing you foosl in Misfit to exist this long.
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Cailais
Amarr
VITOC
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Posted - 2008.02.21 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Cailais on 21/02/2008 02:22:43
Im struggling somewhat to understand why Electus Matari, a sizeable Alliance in its own right and well respected across many systems is bothering with this engagement?
Whilst Outlaw Jenner has a somewhat uncouth air for my personal liking, and a tendency to be rather 'outspoken' I'd hardly describe him, or Misfits, as a terrifying blight upon the face of the cluster.
Could someone from EM enlighten us?
C.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.02.21 06:59:00 -
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While I'm by no means an expert on EM policy or leadership, Mr. Cailais, it does seem to me that, every now and then, someone just really, truly asks for it.
At a guess.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.02.21 07:00:00 -
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Good question, and I am sorry if I was not clear on this before.
Electus Matari is an alliance loyal to the Minmatar Republic. Our job is to defend the Republic, to strengthen her industry, and to assist local authorities in upholding the laws. In the last capacity, the vast majority of our work consists of warding off pirates in low security systems and fighting back illegal aggression by Amarrian paramilitaries.
However, ore theft and baiting rookie pilots to destroy their ships are also crimes. That they are pettier does not mean that they are less immoral or more legal. We as a sizable alliance happen to be by circumstances used to a situation where we are in a constant low-activity war, and we can afford using 50 million isk a week for to allow our pilots to fire also on these more cowardly high security criminals.
The Misfits kills reported constitute only a fraction of our total kills of criminals during these past two weeks. Normal operations have not been disrupted by taking them out.
Hope this clarifies the matter.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Diplomat
Electus Matari
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Cailais
Amarr
VITOC
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Posted - 2008.02.21 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 21/02/2008 07:07:52
Good question, and I am sorry if I was not clear on this before.
Electus Matari is an alliance loyal to the Minmatar Republic. Our job is to defend the Republic, to strengthen her industry, and to assist local authorities in upholding the laws. In the last capacity, the vast majority of our work consists of warding off pirates in low security systems and fighting back illegal aggression by Amarrian paramilitaries.
However, ore theft and baiting rookie pilots to destroy their ships are also crimes. That they are pettier does not mean that they are less immoral or more legal. We as a "sizeable alliance" happen to be by circumstances used to a situation where we are in a constant low-activity war, and we can afford using 50 million isk a week for to allow our pilots to fire also on these more cowardly high security criminals.
The Misfits kills reported constitute only a fraction of our total kills of criminals during these past two weeks. Normal operations have not been disrupted by taking them out.
I hope this clarifies the matter.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Diplomat
Electus Matari
Thank-you for clarifying this, although I must admit to a certain degree of confusion as I believe Mr Jenner has in the past been a quite vocal denouncer of the Amarrain paramilitary sects and therefore - whilst his piratical activies not with standing - seems quite closely aligned to your ideology.
I personally am no fan of emotive responses to the loss of ships, and I think in this example Id be silently grateful to Mt Jenner's band for teaching a novice pilot the risks of falling for baited traps and psychological warfare. Having spent some time berating said pilot for his, or her, lack of discipline Id be inclined to leave it at that. After all, if you dec every corporation that has the temerity to destroy one of your ships how on earth does one get anything worthwhile done?
C.
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2008.02.21 16:06:00 -
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Nah Mr Calais
Every once in a blue moon, you meet people in this universe who are just BEGGING for a slice of humble pie.
Mr Jenner was one of those people, and EM just happened to have some extra pie.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.02.21 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 21/02/2008 16:10:36
It is a common misconception that all Minmatar are simply about killing Amarr and nothing else, and that if someone just shoots some Amarrians, we should consider them friendly. But Electus Matari are not anti-Amarr, we are pro-Republic. Killing slavers does not excuse crimes in Republic space. See for example this link for further explanation of the differences between the Matari major alliances.
Moreover, this is not about Outlaw Jenner killing our pilots. They never did, apart from the one kill mentioned in the reports above. This is about them spending their time hanging around academies and baiting just any random rookie pilot of the tribes, and ore theft, and smacktalk afterwards.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Diplomat
Electus Matari
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.23 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Outlaw Jenner
See I'll once again reitterate for you wonderful people. This war costs me nothing, i have many forms of alternative income and sparking you into this level of flame fest is exactally what I wanted. And the war against the "indy corp" you mentioned was much deeper than that. We were invited to dec them, as well as their combat buddies, so i did and let my little nubbins have some fun. We are all far to occupied else where so when we do manage to get space side well sure we'll toss away a few cruisers and unfitted frigates. Becasue with ourr way of aquiring ships, you bring me nothing but a profit each time one goes. Pity they're not worth anything to begin with.
1 - gank noob ships
2 - get forum recognition
3 - get wardecced by bigger entity from forum escapades
if bigger entity is killing us - see 4
if biger entity is killing us very very badly - see 5
if bigger entity is losing - see 2
4 - post about the master plan that always makes you win
5 - post about how you cost them more in ammo and time and how you are pleased that you tie them down
6 - wine/whine, depends on 3
Thought processes of a unvertebrate are very easy. :)
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Sekhmet Orion
Mandatory Suicide Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.02.23 22:48:00 -
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Edited by: Sekhmet Orion on 23/02/2008 22:49:02
Originally by: Setana Manoro
Thought processes of a unvertebrate are very easy. :)
It's Invertebrate btw, but I totally agree with your post
Spineless jellyfish like Outlaw Jenner and his crew of smackers deserve to be war decced and biatch slapped, just for the pure lols.
baited many noob ships in rookie systems recently Jenner?
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Heretic Logistics
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.23 23:55:00 -
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So I'm thinking of asking Orun in Mixed Metaphor to dig out my old media contact files, I want to make a new sitcom called "Everyone Hates Jenner". It'll be a hit!
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Heretic Logistics
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.26 03:23:00 -
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Before any accusations are made, LOAF and ANTI deny any association with Misfits Enterprises, despite their recent, cowardly attempt to escape justice by joining the Covenant Alliance. Standings were set to negative ten and remain so, and the order has come from CEO MirrorGod himself that regardless of alliance standing, agents operating under MFE IFF tags are to be shot on sight without pause or remorse.
There will be no solace for any member MFE, least of all the thief, conman and rapist Outlaw Jenner, in The Covenant Alliance.
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"I am prepared to meet my maker; whether my maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." |
MirrorGod
Heretic Army
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.26 05:28:00 -
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Nothing to see here folks
Jenner thought he'd get rid of us going after him by...joining our alliance. It apparently slid by our executor (previously, while srtill blue to MFE, they were offered a spot), but I enlightened the man in charged and jenner was thrown to the curb.
Over before it began
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Maximus Wolf
Neoteric War Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.27 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Outlaw Jenner
See I'll once again reitterate for you wonderful people. This war costs me nothing, i have many forms of alternative income and sparking you into this level of flame fest is exactally what I wanted. And the war against the "indy corp" you mentioned was much deeper than that. We were invited to dec them, as well as their combat buddies, so i did and let my little nubbins have some fun. We are all far to occupied else where so when we do manage to get space side well sure we'll toss away a few cruisers and unfitted frigates. Becasue with ourr way of aquiring ships, you bring me nothing but a profit each time one goes. Pity they're not worth anything to begin with.
We need an age limit for pilots.
Runaway mouth syndrome !
Max
Signature pwned again
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