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Drak'kon Rebacknar	Posted - 2008.02.08 06:10:00 - [1] Hi everyone, I've recently started playing EVE, and I'm kind of enjoying it at the moment. I've always loved a good Sci-Fi RPG, MMOs included, and EVE seems to offer a bit of versatility; however, I'm a bit bored with some of the stuff that I have been doing. The misisons are somewhat fun, but are also extremely tedious. The mining is obviously reptative. I know that this is natural in some RPGs, I've played three for long periods of time and I understand what it is like. My question becomes, why is 'End-Game' (for lack of a better word, I'm reffering to the point in which you can actually PvP, participate with force, etc, not necessarily the 'end of the game'), so amazingly great. Why should I stick around? I've talked to some of my Corp mates about this. They all seem to list off all of the things you can do: Pirate, Wreck Havok, blah-blah. I'd like a bit more proof. Perhaps there are some videos out there that show how great the PvP can be, etc. I would like proof. I'm a paying customer now, and I'm giving it a whole month, now why should I give it another. I really appreciate any responses. I'm sort of posing this question simply for my own benefit. I want to know what I am looking forward to. (And to any devs who might wander in, the start of the game is honestly, quite slow) -DarkDwarf
Kylegar Caldari Shadow Of The Light Scorched Earth Directive	Posted - 2008.02.08 06:15:00 - [2] My suggestion: Join a 0.0 corp. 0.0 is where the most fun is (and the most risk), and its where you can easally make the most ISK. Videos are nothing comapared to the feelings you get in your body. For example, theres a serious sense of nervousness, anticipation, and a little bit of dread when you warp into your first fight in 0.0. You cant get those feelings from a video. So, Post in the recruitment forum, find a 0.0 corp. Theres plenty of them out there (Progenitor Corp comes to mind...thats a great way to get out to 0.0). -- Originally by: CCP Ginger No sex changes.
Hannobaal Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.08 06:19:00 - [3] No "end-game". And you can participate in pvp combat almost from the very beginning if you want.
Drak'kon Rebacknar	Posted - 2008.02.08 06:22:00 - [4] Alright, thanks guys. And I understand there is no end-game, I was just using that as a term to refer to a more advanced stage in gameplay, but I appreciate the comments and I will keep them in mind.
Siriyana Astrum Contract Services Group	Posted - 2008.02.08 06:23:00 - [5] Not every PvP fight is going to give you a rush or a sense of anticipation at possible loss. But the ones that do, that you win, are awesome. Why? Because in EVE, a loss counts. You don't just respawn with all your gear, you have a real anticipation of loss. Not to say you will feel -bad- when you lose something; you shouldn't, as EVE is just a game, but the thrill of victory is pretty damn cool. :) There's lots of other things to do as well, exploration and market economics can be interesting as well. ----- CEO, Astrum Contract Services Group
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.02.08 06:25:00 - [6] I think Eves biggest problem for hooking new players is that people are so used to being guided completly on their journey through a game that they completely miss the fact that Eve is what you make it. Totally Sandbox. Go Play. Originally by: Nice Guy This means that the writer epicaly fails at english. Irony. So delicious.
Ricardo Phallus	Posted - 2008.02.08 06:27:00 - [7] Originally by: Zeba I think Eves biggest problem for hooking new players is that people are so used to being guided completly on their journey through a game that they completely miss the fact that Eve is what you make it. Totally Sandbox. Go Play. This, set a wild and lofty goal and then set out to attain it. Then slowly realize how truly impossible it probably is and shelve it for a little later in your 'eve career', by this time you'll have a more reasonable or incremental goal in mind.
Cipher7	Posted - 2008.02.08 06:29:00 - [8] At its core Eve is a military/economic/political/industrial player-vs-player war game.
Serge Tahlon Gallente Templars of Space Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.08 07:09:00 - [9] you either know if you want to continue to play or not. every thing any one can say about this game will only build up an expectation that will probably not be fullfilled. eve has no endgame, it is the endgame. you either realise this and stay or you dont and leave. pvp videos are great to watch but they dont even begin to describe the game. and truely great videos are so because you will really only understand what is happening after having already decided to stick with the game... if you know what i mean.
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.02.08 07:12:00 - [10] Originally by: Zeba I think Eves biggest problem for hooking new players is that people are so used to being guided completly on their journey through a game that they completely miss the fact that Eve is what you make it. Totally Sandbox. Go Play. Totally this. Everytime I take a break from EVE, go play other MMOs, and come back I get that feeling of "umm, what should I be doing". Takes awhile to get back into "EVE-mode" and figure out what I want to be doing, then everything is alright again.
Ling Mai School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.02.08 07:20:00 - [11] It's difficult to put into words why PvP in Eve is as good as it is. The only real way to know the feeling of Eve PvP is to go try it. This is the only game I've ever played (and I have played tons), that makes my heart race, even 10-20 minutes after a good fight, win or lose. There is quite honestly nothing like it. Sweaty hands, the stupid grin on your face afterwards, or during if your like me :) The eve movies are good, but they dont do the actual experience justice. Every so often though, you'll see a certain movie, or part of one, and just say "Wow, i wish i was there for that" because being there would have been sweet! All that aside though, the BEST thing about eve is my opinion is the good times that can be had in a tight knit PvP corp, even a small one. The friends you make, and the good times that are shared cant be matched in any game.
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2008.02.08 07:26:00 - [12] Echoing what the others say, but from less of a PvP angle. I started out just casually misssion running, then I joined a high-sec corp where I met most of my current in-game mates of EVE, even though we've now gone separate ways. while we grew in hi sec, we occasionally packed around lowsec killing what we could, before finally teaming up with a 0.0 alliance. While others engaged in PvP, I kept the corp afloat with NPC ratting income tax. We then shifted back for a while and joined another Alliance in a different region for some more enjoying, less PvP fun. that soon changed, and we bailed again. Tired of this, and growing ever more appreciative of my NPC mishing income, I split off on my own, then dabbled in COSMOS, invention, POS deployment, before finding my niche in Industry and the launch of an IPO, which'll soon follow up with some small scale POS operations, with the dream of becoming an alliance infrastructure developer of sorts. For me it's like a train set,, how big and how much you want to lose yourself in it is your call. You could buy some rails and an engine, make a small circle track, and leave it at that. Or you can spend more money and over time, build a beautiful rolling scenery with your multiple trains and complicated track runnings around the country. And of course, godzilla occasionally comes through, smashes things up and forces you to recover and rebuild something different ;) Improve Market Competition!

CCP Prism X C C P	Posted - 2008.02.08 07:33:00 - [13] How about a Dev Post on a thread of your creation? Would that make you continue to play EVE? But in honesty it's hard for anyone to tell you why you should go on playing. The only answer is "To have fun!" which is such a generic reply that it's useless to anyone. The best advice I think you can get is "Find a corporation which suits you". That about as useful as "To have fun!" but at least it gives you the goal of getting a corp rather than just defining fun and what suits you. EVE is built around the concept of corporations. To borrow the term ''end game'': You won't be having any of it without one. Of course people will disagree but that's more of a disagreement on what ''end game'' means and the term really doesn't belong in EVE anyways. But it's still a fact that socializing with people, whose personalities and goals click with yours, is good fun and can lead to great things. With my silly opinions out of the way I can attempt to brighten your day with information: We've been taking a hard critical look on your New Player Experience for quite some time now. We know EVE is about as newbie friendly as a trip to the darkest jungles of the world. We're obviously not going to break EVEs image as that is what sets it above the rest. We're not dumbing it down. We're just adding these things like proper information along with features to help new people out... like the "find a corporation" feature. At any rate, I hope things work out for you here. If not, then at least: "Thanks for stopping by.". Fly safe, ~ Prism X EvE Database Developer

Chavu Ganja Labs Pure.	Posted - 2008.02.08 07:33:00 - [14] There is a entire section of the forums dedicated to player made videos of which almost all are PvP. Go here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=channel&channelID=29045 This video is one of my favorites: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=647357 Then get into one good decent pvp fight and you'll be hooked like the rest of us.
Komen Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.08 08:37:00 - [15] Being (somewhat) of a veteran player, I thought I'd reply. Mining never gets less repetitive. Doing it in a group, however, can lessen the tedium, as you then have other people to talk to while doing it. Missioning never gets less grindy, you just do it in bigger and more expensively (and more capable) ships. Again, teaming up with a friend or friends to do missions can make things more interesting, especially now that the 'share mission rewards' option is available. One of the better changes to the game. PvP can be fun, and there's all sorts of styles, from roaming lone wolf to organized packs, to fleet combat. Again, my personal experience is that it's more fun with friends along. Fleet combat is kind of 'meh' for me, but some pursue it. I prefer small gang action myself, fast and fluid. Note the common thread in all of these options: It's always more fun with friends. Find yourself a corp, try them out. Don't be afraid to leave if it turns out they don't suit you. That's all from me. Good luck and have fun. ___________________________________ Wielder of the Trout of Doom(tm)! ___________________________________
Culdees	Posted - 2008.02.08 08:58:00 - [16] as has been mentioned, the game is what you make it. take players away for a minute and look at the entire database. it is possible to entirely understand and play with (toy trains) everything, but what then? it always comes down to the people that you play the game with AND against. i believe eve loses its new players more because of the intentsification of the time and commitment needed to play against other players rather than the 'slow start', or perhaps this is what a 'slow start' means for most. obviously the op points to an escape instead of meeting up with friends, so endgame for you is fighting against others pvp, well sorry to tell you this game is geared for limited solo pvp, or in fact any pvp. the game is geared for 1 grinding (earning) as you can see by the large pve content. enough to stay interested for a little while. and faster than any other form of earning. almost necessary to make a go of the game as you no doubt found out. 2 griefing as you can/will see by the fact that everybody runs when your in pimp mobile, but ganks when you are in a shuttle. this can hardly be called pvp. 3 wars. now this would have to be endgame for you. fighting against others in battles. this costs so much in recovery time for a small corp that most find it impossible to carry out without sacrificing their rl. so you are forced into a big corp or an alliance which of course leads to fleet engagements. fleet engagements are what should be the most entertaining thing in the game for people who really do want to pvp in a fair way. the test of the skill and co-op, but unfortunately they are not fun or a test of skill for anyone. some will say they are, and we even get little news stories to prove it.. heh, but yeah. you do what you want in eve, but solo/small corp you are limited to pve and little pvp, and a casual solo is limited even more. join a big corp and live off the newbies, as suggested, but be prepared to reshedule your rl. i supposed that means how involved do you want to be? the op points to not much, so quit. but then there is contradiction in there, like you want to explore it but have not. hmm, two different people, someone looking for an endgame would try it. maybe this is the belief that people dont try pvp or somehow dont know how to enjoy themselves?
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.02.08 09:01:00 - [17] I don't have an end-game for Eve Online. I just play now so that I can play later... forever and ever... until I get bored and move on to another game... like Civilization, Age of Empires, Madden NFL Football, Settlers of Catan, or Scrabble... yes, Scrabble. --- Join BH-DL Skills
ZeroMaximus	Posted - 2008.02.08 09:01:00 - [18] well here is the alliance tourney: http://eve-online.tv/tournament.aspx lots of pvp matches there but really you should just quit and give me all your stuff (sorry could not resist saying it :/)
Braaage eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.02.08 09:17:00 - [19] The worst thing you can do in EVE is get yourself billions of ISK. It's great for the first few weeks then you think, well, what's to play for. It totally ruined my game and I had great pleasure in giving lots away and investing it and now I have my will to play back. -- eve-guides.com All about POSs, Outposts, Exploration, Mining, Invention, EVE Database + much more!!
Tzar'rim Minmatar Reckless Corsairs	Posted - 2008.02.08 09:17:00 - [20] It depends on what attracts you to MMO's in the first place, if you like teamwork, specialisation, optimisation, interaction then EVE is the right MMO for you. If you're always annoyed by people who can't/don't want to work together or who are being idiots then EVE is for you. Because in EVE you can attack the idiots that annoy you, and team work, preparation and tactics will go a long way. RECOR is looking for a few aspiring team PVPers The chronicles of RECOR
Stein Voorhees Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.02.08 09:30:00 - [21] Look Agony Unleashed up and go on a PvP-BASIC training course. You'll at least get to see PvP combat and decide if it's something you like (I can guarantee it is ) and want to learn / do a lot more of. You only need a few skills and cheap disposable frigs to get started. Check out Agony Unleashed
Zothike Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.08 09:50:00 - [22] Do "soft" PVP join the red versus blue program (dont have the url) but would be easy to find with eve-search.com
Yarr2K Amarr Blue.	Posted - 2008.02.08 10:01:00 - [23] You Yarred? RvB is great fun especially if you can use a character that already has a good skill base unlike me who has to make do with an alt because his mains are currently 'occupied' elsewhere. BLUE vs RED The Only Good Red Is A Dead Red
Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2008.02.08 10:02:00 - [24] EVE is like Life. If you want to get anywhere you have to set a goal, work out a plan and move towards it relentlessly. Otherwise you are doomed to wonder around aimlessly without having any fun at all.
Crazyhate	Posted - 2008.02.08 10:28:00 - [25] Originally by: Hannobaal No "end-game". And you can participate in pvp combat almost from the very beginning if you want. You want some real excitment? Get urself war dec'd from the start. Im going on three weeks into this game and been war dec'd from the git go. Lost everything and cloned many times. Just got another dec this afternoon from the same corp. Another week of bliss.
Kaathar Rielspar Minmatar Universal Exports FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.02.08 11:18:00 - [26] Low SP pvp you dont need umpteen million sp to enjoy pvp dead link to the video. here is another version (d/l it) anyone link the original? ____________________
Uzuness	Posted - 2008.02.08 11:25:00 - [27] If I were you, I'd go join Red Vs. Blue and just pewpew for a while as you train your skills up. Fly a cruiser/frigate around.. get some experience/kills. And just have a fun time. Might want to do this on an Alt., as your main with good implants does the real stuff.. mission running, if you like.
Aypse D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.08 13:29:00 - [28] really can start pvping at 2 weeks old. Go for something along these lines: Thorax: light neutron blasters mwd, web, disruptor 1600mm plate, small armor rep, eanm, 2x magnetic field stab or Stabber: 4x 220mm autocannons, 2x heavy launchers MWD, disruptor, large shield extender overdriver, internal nanofiber, gyrostabilizer Go to low sec, and pick fights in astroid belts. You may lose, you may win, but you will definitely have a hell of a rush. Originally by: Oveur Eve is primarily a PVP game and hence our focus is on making that experience balanced.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.02.08 13:42:00 - [29] Originally by: Aypse really can start pvping at 2 weeks old. Go for something along these lines: Thorax: light neutron blasters mwd, web, disruptor 1600mm plate, small armor rep, eanm, 2x magnetic field stab or Stabber: 4x 220mm autocannons, 2x heavy launchers MWD, disruptor, large shield extender overdriver, internal nanofiber, gyrostabilizer Go to low sec, and pick fights in astroid belts. You may lose, you may win, but you will definitely have a hell of a rush. Two weeks into the game he might not be familiar with the term MWD or eanm... These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Minee Ze Gallente AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.02.08 14:49:00 - [30] Originally by: Kylegar(Progenitor Corp comes to mind...thats a great way to get out to 0.0).[/quote OMG! PRCP, mentioned without us doing it? wow! but seriously we in Intrepid Crossing take progenitor (our first steps to 0.0 corp) very seriously, if you are looking for a good corp/group to find the true meaning of 0.0 look us up (you can eve-mail me if you want) there is also eve-university that helps with that. -Minee Ze

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