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Freezehunter Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.02.08 21:45:00 - [1] I just watched the videos and apparently World of Crapcraft, the Burning **ade won MMO of the year award... Your opinions on the matter, gents? Mine would be : "That's just plain BULL** ,maaaan >.>!!!111oneone"
Ursula LeGuinn Versus Gloria Omnis	Posted - 2008.02.08 21:51:00 - [2] If they want to give an award to a game where midgets and trolls run around in pink sunhats and horribly mismatched clothing all the time, more power to them. It's an MMORPG for the masses. Kinda like romance novels and reality television. ________________
Zephyr Rengate Racketeers	Posted - 2008.02.08 21:52:00 - [3] EVE IS DEAD Q_Q
Letouk Mernel	Posted - 2008.02.08 21:53:00 - [4] Mine would be "Bah, we didn't want that award anyway!" in green.
Kraven Kor Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.08 21:55:00 - [5] EVE deserves no such award so long as Fleet fights can't occur without crippling lag, be it by making EVE capable of handling 500 vs. 500 battles, or by somehow limiting / spreading battles out. WoW has like umpteen million people playing. Quite frankly, they can have their awards if it keeps that much riff-raff out of EVE :D ----- You're not what you are, you're just what you do! So it ends with their butts and it starts with your shoe! - Awesome Car Fun Maker
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.02.08 21:56:00 - [6] Well, that is so sad for tehm. Fur me, Eve is simply the best and will alway be the best game for me. It is awsomely fun. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-
Freezehunter Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.02.08 21:58:00 - [7] Yea guys, i mean.... COME ON FFS... Eve vs WOW should have been like... Goons vs. BoB or...or... A Maseratti vs a Dacia 1310, or... a ...a Game made for ****** people that like to off to dancing elves vs a game in wich every time you undock you worry about your assets and hope to survive, in wich you actually have to use your neurons you know... Before i watched that video i was SURE Eve would win MMO of the year, it looks, plays, sounds, feels EVERYTHINGS better than WoW bull** :( I feel real sorry for CCP, it is not fair to them :( NOT FAIR AT ALL!
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.02.08 21:59:00 - [8] TBH I am not surprised at this at all. The last few patches have been CCP going "OOOO look how pretty we can make it!" Which is fine and all, but the combination of massive lag fest, nonstop nerf this / nerf that, and a staff composed of drunk employees makes for a very poor game experience compared to other companies. The award takes into account the company and most emportantly the game experience on every scale. EVE is far behind in these reguards. But hey, we have new graphics! WildCat
Mr McCargo The Paradox Continium	Posted - 2008.02.08 21:59:00 - [9] Boots of Speed and Mighty Flamboyant Hammer of Giraffe vs. pew pew? Yeah, I think they mixed something up. - Mr C
ToxicFire Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2008.02.08 21:59:00 - [10] I guess most will say meh we don't really care anyway, very few seriously gamers give actual weight to these kinda awards to guide their preferences in the game world, alot of word of mouth advertising still influences the world of gaming. So frankly who cares, but if you want my opinion eve didn't really deserve it this year its had a bit of a bad year in my opinion. WoW getting it was to be expected. ------------------------------------------ Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2008.02.08 22:02:00 - [11] Mmm. Wow wins the popularity contest because it caters to the masses. Also, it's coded better, although eve is designed better in many ways. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
ToxicFire Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2008.02.08 22:03:00 - [12] Originally by: Frug Mmm. Wow wins the popularity contest because it caters to the masses. Also, it's coded better, although eve is designed better in many ways. Aye its like trying to compare a thoroughbred with a work horse have completely different uses and users. ------------------------------------------ Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
Freezehunter Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.02.08 22:09:00 - [13] Originally by: ToxicFire Originally by: Frug Mmm. Wow wins the popularity contest because it caters to the masses. Also, it's coded better, although eve is designed better in many ways. Aye its like trying to compare a thoroughbred with a work horse have completely different uses and users. Somewhat true... But then... WHY THE HELL put them in the same cathegory in the first place? And to the guy that said "mighty flamboyant hammer of giraffe vs pew pew"-yes, they HAVE gone wrong... It's like comparing a "shiny knife of**** (fag+2)" to a "nuclear bomb (range=..., damage=....damage types=...)" I'd choose the bomb tbh...
Zephyr Rengate Racketeers	Posted - 2008.02.08 22:13:00 - [14] btw what does this award add to the game? does it allow the devs to extend their epeen?
Cherylin	Posted - 2008.02.08 22:17:00 - [15] EVE certainly didn't earn it this year every patch, no matter how small creates more problems than it solves did they make the game prettier - slightly - but not worth the problems it created
Freezehunter Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.02.08 22:20:00 - [16] Edited by: Freezehunter on 08/02/2008 22:24:43 Edited by: Freezehunter on 08/02/2008 22:22:52 Edited by: Freezehunter on 08/02/2008 22:21:30 Originally by: Zephyr Rengate btw what does this award add to the game? does it allow the devs to extend their epeen? You know what I think it would add to the game? I think it would have made me (and a **load of other players) just a liiitle bit more proud to have chosen Eve as their favourite MMO and not that **** WoW crap... And what's wrong with the devs having an even bigger epeen? Frankly i think they diserve to have it because they made the Best MMO of all time... And it's not their fault if they can't jump 200 years into the future and find a way to eliminate lag for good... And about 500 vs 500 fleet fights... please... World of **craft has tons of servers on which everyone plays, eve only has ONE... I think we will have to invent V.I.K.I and ma3a and GlaDOS and tell them all to process Eve at once to eliminate the dreaded server lag for good... And again, it's not the dev's fault they don't own a science fiction server...
mishkof Caldari Shadows of Valor Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.08 23:22:00 - [17] Boot.ini is all I have to say. I own a T2 BPO and Capital alt, therefor all of my views will be pro-Capital Alt/T2 BPO orientated. Please pick one of the following settings for your response. []hate me []troll me []smack me
Freezehunter Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.02.08 23:35:00 - [18] Originally by: mishkof Boot.ini is all I have to say. Just a typo my friend, just a typo :D An unfortunate series of events, as the Gman would say...
Xar Corleoni	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:02:00 - [19] not a suprise a game where time = power where new players get no protection from more experienced noob hunters where PVP is more important than the experience etc etc etc boot.ini could just be classed as a mistake (pretty damn good one thou :)) so i dont think that would affect things too much trinity has been a disappointment for anyone on medium systems (i know it let me down :() all in all eve is at the point where it cannot develop any further as a game and just doesnt have the instant appeal of other mmos like WOW where time playing is rewarded rather than the ammount of subscriptiions you pay to CCP
Snipe Ranger	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:07:00 - [20] Why would a eve be mmo of the year? Sure the concept is incredibiliy awesome but the execution lacks. If you advertise "large" "epic" fleet battles and your game obviously cant handle it why get an award?
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Kraven Kor EVE deserves no such award so long as Fleet fights can't occur without crippling lag, be it by making EVE capable of handling 500 vs. 500 battles, or by somehow limiting / spreading battles out. Good thing the other 80% of us don't do that, eh? Originally by: DHB WildCat I'm special since I post in orange I thought you were quitting? ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2
Snipe Ranger	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:14:00 - [22] Edited by: Snipe Ranger on 09/02/2008 00:14:56 Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Kraven Kor EVE deserves no such award so long as Fleet fights can't occur without crippling lag, be it by making EVE capable of handling 500 vs. 500 battles, or by somehow limiting / spreading battles out. Good thing the other 80% of us don't do that, eh? Originally by: DHB WildCat I'm special since I post in orange I thought you were quitting? Impossible according to bob 80% of eve is attacking them in these types of fleets, so obviously your wrong there.
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:21:00 - [23] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Kraven Kor EVE deserves no such award so long as Fleet fights can't occur without crippling lag, be it by making EVE capable of handling 500 vs. 500 battles, or by somehow limiting / spreading battles out. Good thing the other 80% of us don't do that, eh? Originally by: DHB WildCat I'm special since I post in orange I thought you were quitting? lol soon, but I found a ship that allows me to engage almost 30 to 1 8). So I am actually having fun with it. It still ****es me off that I need to find a large enough group to fight, but now that I can I am happy. WildCat
J Ripper Caldari Silent Retaliation	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:26:00 - [24] I dont understand, wow only has 10 million subscribers... How on earth did it beat EVE EVE's subcriptions are dropping LETS DOS ATTACK WOW SERVERS, let them have some lag for a change
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:32:00 - [25] Originally by: J Ripper I dont understand, wow only has 10 million subscribers... How on earth did it beat EVE McDonalds doesn't win culinary awards. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2
Xar Corleoni	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:34:00 - [26] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: J Ripper I dont understand, wow only has 10 million subscribers... How on earth did it beat EVE McDonalds doesn't win culinary awards. yeah but at least you dont have to watch your back for the cow to come up and suicide egank you in maccy D's
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:37:00 - [27] Originally by: Xar Corleoni Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: J Ripper I dont understand, wow only has 10 million subscribers... How on earth did it beat EVE McDonalds doesn't win culinary awards. yeah but at least you dont have to watch your back for the cow to come up and suicide egank you in maccy D's I think that the analogy is still valid. Wow is a game based not on depth, but on creating several factors that compel you to play whether you're actually having fun or not. You just HAVE to get to the next level. Anyone who has played WoW for a significant amount of time has felt this, a NEED to obtain a level long after they've stopped having fun. McDonalds food isn't that great, but it's filled with chemical compounds that you can become psychologically dependent upon. Same deal. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2
Xar Corleoni	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:39:00 - [28] problem is without that hook you dont get business I would love to see DocG do a study on how many trialist have gone on to full account status over the past 12 months broken down by quarter i would say that is a better guide to the health of eve than crappy awards
J Ripper Caldari Silent Retaliation	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:39:00 - [29] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: J Ripper I dont understand, wow only has 10 million subscribers... How on earth did it beat EVE McDonalds doesn't win culinary awards. unfortunately they do :(((
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:41:00 - [30] And what is the EAA? And why the hell does it matter? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
J Ripper Caldari Silent Retaliation	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:47:00 - [31] OK, OK, I Admit... I play WoW and EvE. Yeah there is a need to grind levels on wow, but it`s the same principle as eve's Skill tree. With wow, the more effort you put into it, the more you get out of it.. EvE your skills are just as good as someone who plays 30 mins a day to someone that plays 6 hours a day. Both games are exellent in there own ways.. Just wish CCP would sort all the problems out once and for all instead of working on useles crap just to entice more subsriptions...
Jakk Graiseach Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.02.09 00:51:00 - [32] Originally by: An Anarchyyt And what is the EAA? And why the hell does it matter? This. -- There are some men that things should not come to know
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.02.09 01:53:00 - [33] Originally by: J Ripper Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: J Ripper I dont understand, wow only has 10 million subscribers... How on earth did it beat EVE McDonalds doesn't win culinary awards. unfortunately they do :((( yeah sorry tarminic but sadly you have ben pwnd :(
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.02.09 02:15:00 - [34] Originally by: J Ripper Just wish CCP would sort all the problems out once and for all instead of working on useles crap just to entice more subsriptions... Seconded. 450,000 some odd manhours on graphics. Seemingly zero on quality of life, UI and bug fixes. Nevermind the lag... that I'm used to.
Struvian	Posted - 2008.02.09 02:22:00 - [35] Lol, you guys are just as bad as WoW players. 'Ooh boo hoo, what does the award matter'. 'Ooh boo hoo, wow sucks and we're sooo much more intelligent than those teeming masses. Let's look down on them and say they're stupid just so we can soothe our bruised egos' If EVE had won, this page would be pages and pages long, with all of you slapping each other on the back and saying 'well of course EVE won, we're the best.' Pretty goddamn pathetic.
Ezekiel Sulastin Gallente Eve University	Posted - 2008.02.09 02:46:00 - [36] Originally by: Struvian Lol, you guys are just as bad as WoW players. 'Ooh boo hoo, what does the award matter'. 'Ooh boo hoo, wow sucks and we're sooo much more intelligent than those teeming masses. Let's look down on them and say they're stupid just so we can soothe our bruised egos' If EVE had won, this page would be pages and pages long, with all of you slapping each other on the back and saying 'well of course EVE won, we're the best.' Pretty goddamn pathetic. QFT.
Stormaar Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.09 02:51:00 - [37] very nice ----- Customizable UI / internal API for mods/addons
Tate Aoko Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2008.02.09 07:26:00 - [38] WTF? I'm calling the UN. How dare a popular game win an award.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.09 08:14:00 - [39] Its ok we win obscure awards every three seconds from sites that we never knew existed and thats all that matters also, not the biggest playerbase
Belce Caldari ADAMA Corps Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.02.09 08:15:00 - [40] Also Rocky won an oscar for best picture Halle Berry won an oscar for best actress The Grammys.... It would be really nice if there was an award for actual achievement Truth is Truth
Zephyr Rengate Racketeers	Posted - 2008.02.09 08:39:00 - [41] Originally by: Wet Ferret Originally by: J Ripper Just wish CCP would sort all the problems out once and for all instead of working on useles crap just to entice more subsriptions... Seconded. 450,000 some odd manhours on graphics. Seemingly zero on quality of life, UI and bug fixes. Nevermind the lag... that I'm used to. So you want graphic designers fixing lag?
J Ripper Caldari Silent Retaliation	Posted - 2008.02.09 08:50:00 - [42] Originally by: Zephyr Rengate Originally by: Wet Ferret Originally by: J Ripper Just wish CCP would sort all the problems out once and for all instead of working on useles crap just to entice more subsriptions... Seconded. 450,000 some odd manhours on graphics. Seemingly zero on quality of life, UI and bug fixes. Nevermind the lag... that I'm used to. So you want graphic designers fixing lag? No, I (We?) want less graphic designers and more techie guys to fix the lag
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.02.09 08:53:00 - [43] Well, grapic designers could help with in the house testing, you know. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-
Lui Kai Phoenix Aeronautics	Posted - 2008.02.09 08:58:00 - [44] Awards are popularity contests. WoW is extremely popular. It has friendly, forgiving game mechanics that allow for a single player of any game-playing experience to pick it up or put it down, and achieve the "Endgame" within a month or two, at the outside. By the time the review period was over, the reviewer was likely raiding Fred the Fantastic for his own copy of the Super Swordly Powderpuff recommended to him in a guide as how to be "end game" Eve more than likely podded the reviewer, then scammed him out of his assets when he tried to replace his ship, then mocked him heavily when someone posted his killmail to the forums. I know which game gets my award. ----------------
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.02.09 09:01:00 - [45] Originally by: Lui Kai I know which game gets my award. From yuor post. I do not know but I am guessing warcarft, am I right? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-
Slez	Posted - 2008.02.09 09:15:00 - [46] Doesnt really surprise me. EVE by far has accomplished more and overcome more than WoW ever has. WoW is built off a name, with nothing but cash to throw at tons of coders, publicity, etc. How many other european MMO's have made it as far as CCP has? afaik not a damn one. CCP was just a small time company and made it big.
Lui Kai Phoenix Aeronautics	Posted - 2008.02.09 09:17:00 - [47] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Lui Kai I know which game gets my award. From yuor post. I do not know but I am guessing warcarft, am I right? The real Jenny just felt a disturbance in the yarrr. ----------------
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2008.02.09 09:24:00 - [48] Originally by: Zephyr Rengate Originally by: Wet Ferret Originally by: J Ripper Just wish CCP would sort all the problems out once and for all instead of working on useles crap just to entice more subsriptions... Seconded. 450,000 some odd manhours on graphics. Seemingly zero on quality of life, UI and bug fixes. Nevermind the lag... that I'm used to. So you want graphic designers fixing lag? Nope. I want half to 2/3 of them fired or retasked, and the resources dedicated to UI and bugfixes. You don't hire painters to put a mural on a burning building. You get some firefighters. Originally by: Frug Your reputation has been entirely redeemed in my eyes. I now want your babies.
Sythyss	Posted - 2008.02.09 09:26:00 - [49] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Lui Kai I know which game gets my award. From yuor post. I do not know but I am guessing warcarft, am I right? LOL nice one jenny.
Lardarz B'stard Amarr Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.02.09 09:30:00 - [50] All this is making me want to give WoW a try.* complete b#ll#cks Originally by:* Kindakrof there is no gravity in space
Freezehunter Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.02.09 11:20:00 - [51] .... Some of you guys should really look at yourselves... You are ***ing about Eve being bugged (yes, it is) laggy (yes it is) and where new players have no chance against older players in PVP (true)... BUT... i ask you this... Would you prefer to have CCP MAKE YOU PAY FOR PATCHES AND EXPANSIONS? like Blizzard? Of course, that would guarrantee a clean game with no bugs at all BUT would you PAY for expansions? CCP is nice and gives us all good stuff for basically FREE, instead of milking us like cows, like Blizzard does to it's WOW subscribers... All you guys can do is *, insead of thanking CCP... jeez... When i'll see Blizzard make new graphics for WOW and put it on their servers FOR FREE, i won't mind seeing people *** about Eve being buggy and all...
Poister Amarr THEM. Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2008.02.09 11:33:00 - [52] Perhaps they re-assest the game from the Amarrian point of view.
Paladineguru Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.09 12:15:00 - [53] Originally by: DHB WildCat TBH I am not surprised at this at all. The last few patches have been CCP going "OOOO look how pretty we can make it!" Which is fine and all, but the combination of massive lag fest, nonstop nerf this / nerf that, and a staff composed of drunk employees makes for a very poor game experience compared to other companies. The award takes into account the company and most emportantly the game experience on every scale. EVE is far behind in these reguards. But hey, we have new graphics! WildCat Thats a little harsh. In ccp's defense They have listened to their playerbase much more than blizzard. the nerf this nerf that isnt just to ** u off, as a beta player to now i can tell you so much has changed its sick, once i could use torps on a thorax. what about that eh, what theyve done sometimes reduces one ship, but overall theyve done a pretty damn good job. Could you go to work every day and make a decision if 300,000 people howled for your blood. ccp devs do it every day. I dont know about you but in the years ive played, ccp has always worked pretty much like clockwork on thier patches and if you play long enough you recognize a pattern in them. And how dare you knock drunken party animal devs, ill take those guys and fanfest over some sniveling * in a ***** suit , ibm wanna be mmorpg producer, ANYDAY much love oveur
Kolnaz Eriga Winds of Dawn	Posted - 2008.02.09 12:35:00 - [54] Edited by: Kolnaz Eriga on 09/02/2008 12:36:04 Originally by: Struvian Lol, you guys are just as bad as WoW players. 'Ooh boo hoo, what does the award matter'. 'Ooh boo hoo, wow sucks and we're sooo much more intelligent than those teeming masses. Let's look down on them and say they're stupid just so we can soothe our bruised egos' If EVE had won, this page would be pages and pages long, with all of you slapping each other on the back and saying 'well of course EVE won, we're the best.' Pretty goddamn pathetic. /Quoted for truth
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.02.09 14:00:00 - [55] Originally by: Freezehunter Would you prefer to have CCP MAKE YOU PAY FOR PATCHES AND EXPANSIONS? like Blizzard? Yeah, okay. TBC wasn't WoW's first patch. And it certainly wasn't the first major content update. Before TBC, They practically doubled the size of the playable world and added hundreds of new features completely FREE. Might I add they fixed bugs and broken content all the time? Granted, they went the SOE route and started charging for expansions which sucks... but that doesn't change the fact that they didn't for years, and they still put out content updates and patches between major expansions for free. But while we're on the subject, I'd gladly pay extra if it meant CCP would stop updating the graphics engine and start fixing things that are broken. The sound engine would be a good start. UI optimizations too. Or if they're going to mess around with the graphics, they could optimize what's already there; things like toning down the godawful volumetric fog in deadspace (that can still choke some of the newer video cards to death).Or more options for how we see / hear the game. But this, of course, is just a dream.
Mir Net	Posted - 2008.02.09 14:09:00 - [56] Originally by: Freezehunter .... CCP is nice and gives us all good stuff for basically FREE, instead of milking us like cows, like Blizzard does to it's WOW subscribers... Heh. Well if thats what you think Btw do you have a mining alt/cyno alt/research alt/market alt/highsec mission running alt/scout alt...... And yep, they DO design the game to accommodate all of those for ease of convenience... at a cost ofcourse, heck they even rack up multiple account promotions telling you how much easier life would be The cost to the player isn't just in the wallet either, it's sad how they have degraded (sorry balanced) the game over the years to accommodate the advantages of multiple accounting (examples above) Realy, thats something you should bear in mind when you see the industry awards being handed out not the player rigged (sorry voted) one that eve wins over at mmorpg.com every year. Game experience and polish to the individual. In which case games like warcraft and lord of the rings online will allways win outright, because of the glitz and dazzle that goes with an enjoyable experience that people enjoy.
Lui Kai Phoenix Aeronautics	Posted - 2008.02.09 14:57:00 - [57] Originally by: Mir Net Btw do you have a mining alt/cyno alt/research alt/market alt/highsec mission running alt/scout alt...... Everything you listed can be done on a single account with the exception of a cyno alt - which is for cap ships, which were primarily designed for usage within an alliance. Yes, people who have multiple accounts have an advantage - they can get characters up and doing all of those things faster - but this has always been true in any MMO that balances any of it's content around the "It takes more than 1 character to do something" model. ----------------
Iva Soreass Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2008.02.09 15:01:00 - [58] Originally by: DHB WildCat TBH I am not surprised at this at all. The last few patches have been CCP going "OOOO look how pretty we can make it!" Which is fine and all, but the combination of massive lag fest, nonstop nerf this / nerf that, and a staff composed of drunk employees makes for a very poor game experience compared to other companies. The award takes into account the company and most emportantly the game experience on every scale. EVE is far behind in these reguards. But hey, we have new graphics! WildCat This is why.
Tiberius Amzadee Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.02.09 15:05:00 - [59] Shame on you all that conserns yourselves about petty awards and other games. A true eve player has no more value of awards from critics then most of us have about the crews on our ships. The rewards will come naturaly. The mmorpg landscape is a war and we have the superior technology,sure it's so new that even ccp tends to rush to operate it without getting all the advanced skills needed while the basic ones are still leveling up,but hey we're all guilty of that too. Stay the course,damn the torpeadoes turn on the nanos,armor,shield boosters and full speed ahead!
Maris Price	Posted - 2008.02.09 15:10:00 - [60] Edited by: Maris Price on 09/02/2008 15:13:27 Originally by: Snipe Ranger Edited by: Snipe Ranger on 09/02/2008 00:14:56 Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Kraven Kor EVE deserves no such award so long as Fleet fights can't occur without crippling lag, be it by making EVE capable of handling 500 vs. 500 battles, or by somehow limiting / spreading battles out. Impossible according to bob 80% of eve is attacking them in these types of fleets, so obviously your wrong there. One time when that happened, the entire node I was on went down. Apparently the resources dedicated to the node that covered our area of space were given to the fleet battle so it wouldn't crash. There were about 25 in my system and we all dropped into frames per minute for about 15 or twenty minutes. Most got kicked. Despite that, they still lagged out based on the storyline posted on the main page. WoW is for people who want gain without pain so they can be uberleet in their big purple shoulderpads while they dance the macarena as they wait for the next 6 hour raid instance.
Sky Marshal Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.02.09 15:18:00 - [61] Edited by: Sky Marshal on 09/02/2008 15:19:33 Originally by: Freezehunter CCP is nice and gives us all good stuff for basically FREE, instead of milking us like cows, like Blizzard does to it's WOW subscribers... One response : Eve is one, or maybe the most, expensive MMORPG actually in this world. So no, the expansion are not free. With time, CCP wins, and extensions are needed to (try to) keep all players in their game. Originally by: DHB WildCat TBH I am not surprised at this at all. The last few patches have been CCP going "OOOO look how pretty we can make it!" Which is fine and all, but the combination of massive lag fest, nonstop nerf this / nerf that, and a staff composed of drunk employees makes for a very poor game experience compared to other companies. The award takes into account the company and most emportantly the game experience on every scale. EVE is far behind in these reguards. But hey, we have new graphics! WildCat QFT Bugs (local who don't remember his location, scrollbar bug, BBSODs, etc... two months since Trinity and nearly nothing) and all this nerfs (Shield nerf etc...) participate to make the game more and more frustating with time and give the impression that EVE is out of control by the devs. _______ 16/20 Dragon : ½ Great Game + 14/20 Revelations : ½ Desyncs... + 11/20 Trinity : ½ BBSOD, Bugs, Desyncs, F*** Nerfs + 10/20 v1.1 : ½ [...] + EXP shield nerf + CCP, you are tiring.
Pan Crastus Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.09 15:43:00 - [62] Originally by: Slez Doesnt really surprise me. EVE by far has accomplished more and overcome more than WoW ever has. WoW is built off a name, with nothing but cash to throw at tons of coders, publicity, etc. How many other european MMO's have made it as far as CCP has? afaik not a damn one. CCP was just a small time company and made it big. What a delusional post. When people talk about quality of service, bugs and uptime, suddenly everyone claims CCP is a tiny company doing its best ... EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
Brutoth Tain Independant Recon and Intelligence Agency	Posted - 2008.02.09 15:50:00 - [63] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Its ok we win obscure awards every three seconds from sites that we never knew existed and thats all that matters lol yeah how many awards from megasupermmouniverseonlinux.com best game awards has EVE won? but regardless even the so called "prestigious" awards are not worth winning as its all down to industry backslapping and palm greasing.
Roxanna Kell FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.09 16:18:00 - [64] Originally by: DHB WildCat TBH I am not surprised at this at all. The last few patches have been CCP going "OOOO look how pretty we can make it!" Which is fine and all, but the combination of massive lag fest, nonstop nerf this / nerf that, and a staff composed of drunk employees makes for a very poor game experience compared to other companies. The award takes into account the company and most emportantly the game experience on every scale. EVE is far behind in these reguards. But hey, we have new graphics! WildCat Whatever he just said, and this was going to be a bad year for CCP, 40k players is an achievment, but also means that gangs are bigger, lagg is mosntrous, and people just dont enjoy super fleet size that much. it seemed like awesome, but not everyone can afford good systems that can handle the newgraphic in the middle of a big fleet. (300-600) There is the overcrowding problem, certain good agent system are jsut full of isk farmer, leaving players who want to enjoy pve out of it. The list is endless tbh, EVE is not as great as it was anymore, it become a team palying game only, with little fun left in solo and small gang squads. Conquest has killed it.
My Joke	Posted - 2008.02.09 16:18:00 - [65] Edited by: My Joke on 09/02/2008 16:20:05 Originally by: DHB WildCat TBH I am not surprised at this at all. The last few patches have been CCP going "OOOO look how pretty we can make it!" Which is fine and all, but the combination of massive lag fest, nonstop nerf this / nerf that, and a staff composed of drunk employees makes for a very poor game experience compared to other companies. The award takes into account the company and most emportantly the game experience on every scale. EVE is far behind in these reguards. But hey, we have new graphics! WildCat Add the constant market deflation with each new patch, making stuff one owns less valuable, hence the owner poorer and again required to earn isks and start all over again, and you got all the reasons why this account will be expiring in 2 weeks, after 8 months, and my other one expired 3 weeks ago, after 2 years. I'd rather throw 30Ç/month in a trash bin, than spend on this promise-turned-into-crap game any longer. As a matter of principle, to say NO to a company that doesn't want to listen to its customers.
Struvian	Posted - 2008.02.09 16:21:00 - [66] Originally by: My Joke Add the constant market deflation with each new patch, making stuff one owns less valuable, hence the owner poorer and again required to earn isks and start all over again, and you got all the reasons why this account will be expiring in 2 weeks, after 8 months, and my other one expired 3 weeks ago, after 2 years. I'd rather throw 30Ç/month in a trash bin, than spend on this promise-turned-into-crap game any longer. As a matter of principle, to say NO to a company that doesn't want to listen to its customers. As a matter of..lol, can I have ur stuff
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.09 21:28:00 - [67] The very nomination for this kind of thing means something, so that's a good thing in my opinion. These are peer-based awards, so the industry people themselves are the ones rating things. Like it or not, MeH is a very successful game. Not my favorite, but shrug. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Freezehunter Gallente Induseng Enterprises R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.09 22:01:00 - [68] Edited by: Freezehunter on 09/02/2008 22:04:36 Originally by: Mir Net Btw do you have a mining alt/cyno alt/research alt/market alt/highsec mission running alt/scout alt...... No, Freeze does all of that (except for empire missions, i hate empire...). No alts here man, and I don't aggree to people that say that you need 2 accounts or more to have money in the game... I mean, yes, i have ISK problems now and then, BUT i mine in 0.0 for 2 hours and chaching! 100 mil isk to replace the Bs i just lost in a previous battle... and the modules AND with a little bit of extra mining/ratting chaching, i am ritch :) And as for the guy that said he is quitting after 8 months because he is low on isk every time, i recommend this : Move your lazy empire loving ass from empire and go to 0.0 i went to 0.0 2 months after i started playing and i never had any REAL isk problems, just 1 or 2 day hickups in my funds after loosing valuable ships and mods in PVP I even lost ALL my shipstwice and i was broke, well, that's where corporations come in, i loaned money for a new hulk, mined my ass off for 3 or 5 hours and chaching, paid the loan back got new battleship, modules, insurance etc etc... I didn't check the guy's character in game but i can almost BET he is one of those downright idiots that stay in empire even after 5 or more months after starting the game (MAINS, not alts)... The only way you can make real money in empire is by trading and VERY high level missions, mining is crap, PVP is crap etc etc...(in empire) Bottom line: To be ritch in empire you have to be smart and manipulate the market! So again, i recommend you get off your lazy asses and WORK for your isk... instead of *****ing about needing multiple characters to have suficcient ISK...
Dionisius Gallente Critical Analysis R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.09 22:47:00 - [69] In my opinion EvE does not compare to WoW in many aspects, for instance genre, WoW is a Fantasy world MMO, EvE a scifi one, WoW is played on multiple servers across the globe with around 5K - 10K people in each one? ( throwing a random number ) , and how much people is playing EvE Online at the same time, in the same server? WoW lives much from the past image of the RTS Warcraft: Orcs Vs Humans and so forth, lots of "eye-candy" similar to many other fantasy MMO's but very little substance, off course others may differ from my opinion on this one, but i think the most important point about EvE is the capacity the game has for immersing someone in its own universe. EvE is the type of game that you either love it or hate it while WoW is the type of game wether you... sincerely like to climb levels and finish it or well whatever, WoW type games bore me to death. What keeps me a bit from playing EvE atm besides the lag that occurs when 500 vs 500 fight, is the simple fact that something seems to be missing in the game, something like developing the game history, the drama, the backstory, new available goodies and not just nerfs and balances that don't work. As i said many many times, EvE has everything to be possibly unchallenged for a long time either by its lore or backstory if you prefer, or its game mechanics. WoW, well its WoW along with many of its clones. The award imo is just another one in a "corrupted" gaming industry where the "flavour of the month" wins the prize for a time, people need to be a bit more critics and realize that some awards mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. _____________________________________ Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Freezehunter Gallente Induseng Enterprises R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.09 22:55:00 - [70] WOW, now that was a mature post...! You pretty mutch said everything i had to say , but without all the "OMG, BUUUUUUUUULL****! EVERULZWOWSUX!!!!ONEONEONE "! Thanks man, now, do you see people, what he said...
shuckstar Gallente Hauling hogs	Posted - 2008.02.09 23:25:00 - [71] Originally by: DHB WildCat TBH I am not surprised at this at all. The last few patches have been CCP going "OOOO look how pretty we can make it!" Which is fine and all, but the combination of massive lag fest, nonstop nerf this / nerf that, and a staff composed of drunk employees makes for a very poor game experience compared to other companies. The award takes into account the company and most emportantly the game experience on every scale. EVE is far behind in these reguards. But hey, we have new graphics! WildCat QFT
Daelorn State War Academy	Posted - 2008.02.09 23:31:00 - [72] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 08/02/2008 21:57:37 Well, that is so sad for tehm. Fur me, Eve is simply the best and will alway be the best game for me. I can do so much in Eve, PVP, quests, market, chat, play Eve anytime becase nobody sleeps. What esle to ask for? It is totaly awsomely. wut abut downtiem? סּ_סּ
faxtarious Kai-Zen inc.	Posted - 2008.02.09 23:35:00 - [73] Originally by: Kraven Kor EVE deserves no such award so long as Fleet fights can't occur without crippling lag, be it by making EVE capable of handling 500 vs. 500 battles, or by somehow limiting / spreading battles out. WoW has like umpteen million people playing. Quite frankly, they can have their awards if it keeps that much riff-raff out of EVE :D 1000 players in one node (that's a couple of megabites of data tranfered from the sever to you IN REAL TIME)....without server lag... do some math....do some server wiki research...and ask yourself...''would a company invest THAT much money in a game''
faxtarious Kai-Zen inc.	Posted - 2008.02.09 23:40:00 - [74] Originally by: Freezehunter Originally by: ToxicFire Originally by: Frug Mmm. Wow wins the popularity contest because it caters to the masses. Also, it's coded better, although eve is designed better in many ways. Aye its like trying to compare a thoroughbred with a work horse have completely different uses and users. Somewhat true... But then... WHY THE HELL put them in the same cathegory in the first place? And to the guy that said "mighty flamboyant hammer of giraffe vs pew pew"-yes, they HAVE gone wrong... It's like comparing a "shiny knife of**** (fag+2)" to a "nuclear bomb (range=..., damage=....damage types=...)" I'd choose the bomb tbh... That nearly made me shoke on my food... nce one mate
Moon Kitten GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.10 02:48:00 - [75] Originally by: Winterblink The very nomination for this kind of thing means something, so that's a good thing in my opinion. These are peer-based awards, so the industry people themselves are the ones rating things. Like it or not, MeH is a very successful game. Not my favorite, but shrug. I have to agree We've lulled our opponents into a false sense of confidence. Oh, yes. Everything is going according to plan. Those fools, they think they can win... by winning.
Freezehunter Gallente Induseng Enterprises R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.12 22:07:00 - [76] Oh well, i guess Kitten is right... The defense rests...
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.02.12 23:25:00 - [77] Originally by: Xar Corleoni not a suprise a game where time = power where new players get no protection from more experienced noob hunters where PVP is more important than the experience etc etc etc boot.ini could just be classed as a mistake (pretty damn good one thou :)) so i dont think that would affect things too much trinity has been a disappointment for anyone on medium systems (i know it let me down :() all in all eve is at the point where it cannot develop any further as a game and just doesnt have the instant appeal of other mmos like WOW where time playing is rewarded rather than the ammount of subscriptiions you pay to CCP You know, some people LIKE not having to grind for skills... And as for "eve is at the point where it cannot develop any further as a game" - WTF? EvE has FAR more potential for expansion than WoW, because it has far more depth, and what you do in the game actually matters. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
The Fates Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.02.13 07:34:00 - [78] Originally by: Freezehunter I just watched the videos and apparently World of Crapcraft, the Burning **ade won MMO of the year award... Your opinions on the matter, gents? Mine would be : "That's just plain BULL** ,maaaan >.>!!!111oneone" First of all I like my devs drunk. :) Next, I guess I had enough elves, orcs, and D&D to last me a lifetime. That just makes WoW another game I've no interest in. I think the closest I can come to anything like that is Magic: The Gathering. That said, WoW is exactly what a lot of people want. Blizzard also delivers it very well. If it was my thing, I'd be playing it. I think they deserve the award they got. Someone told me some months ago that this was just a business, like any other. They were right. CCP needs to ask themselves what its going to take... or perhaps, they care more about the game than an award? You could make WoW in space. They've chosen a different path. And that's good... for us. If they ever win an award like that, they've probably done something wrong. __ Be content with your lot; one cannot be first in everything. --Aesop

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