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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:00:00 -
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ITT: PvE Players being :smug: about forcing PvP players to PvE; but criticizing EvE: Online (A PvP Game) for having 'PvP'.
One big circlejerk, working as intended.
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:16:00 -
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Tchulen wrote:
EvE is more than a PvP game. Claiming its just a PvP game shows a rather limited view. Without the people who mine, the people who build and the people who trade there would be no PvP. Without the people who PvE there would be no people to gank in high/low sec.
Some of us simply don't give a single gram of **** about Empire or Low-Sec. Without miners the markets wouldn't simply 'shut down', your implication that miners only exist in High-Sec and all the minerals in High-Sec come from these miners is completely ignorant. Minerals largely come from the Drone Regions (Not Highsec), people still produce, research, mine, and do all other sorts of Industry related things *NOT* in High Sec to build supercapitals and line ships matching their alliances fleet doctrines.
Security Status is a pointless mechanic as it stands, and most people who actually care about life in Empire space just skirt the -2.0 threshold; With a bit of time spent in Social Skills going from -10 to positive 5 literally takes a few sanctums in Null (look at my sec status if you don't believe me).
People actually rat together? (this in and of itself is frightening).
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Posted - 2012.02.17 14:39:00 -
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Tchulen wrote:Important point there.... Some of us. Some people do give a **** about Empire and Low-Sec. Your implication that nullsec is the game is completely ignorant. Nullsec is a large part of the game but sec status has NOTHING to do with it so your argument is somewhat flawed.
As has been stated in MANY other threads where is it you null sec chaps get your vast amount of low end minerals from?? Well, from reading forum posts it sounds like a lot buy them from empire and ship them to nullsec. Thus, high sec miners mine your minerals. Not all minerals come from the drone regions and a lot of non cap stuff is actually produced in Empire.
Actually- from what I understand, the Russian botting empire farms Drone Regions day and night, hauls the crystals to 'Pubbie Space' (i.e. High Sec) and Refines them into minerals, then places them on the market, to be purchased by the larger nullsec alliances that can't be bothered to mine out the minerals necessary to build titans and supercarriers.
I'm really curious as to what the monthly isotope usage is jumping all that nonsense around. For the record, based on recent statistics (find it yourself, I'm not citing it) 63% of all PvP in the game takes place in Null. While actual occupancy leads to 61% in Empire; this may look like you bears are the more popular 'play style' but in reality, most people that live in Null have 3-4 accounts and almost 3 alts a piece in Empire. I'd be interested to see a study based on IP Addresses or even Registered Email Addresses of the number of accounts/characters that belong to a Null Main.
I'm sure you will try and refute this saying that Mission Runners and Empire Miners are the Majority of this game, but your wrong mate. The combined 34% of people that live in Null/LowSec and the 5% in Wormholes alts that live in Empire probably make up a large portion of that figure. So keep fighting the good fight about suicide ganking and how the game is dependant on Empire dwellers while ignoring the simple fact that 20 times more ISK is destroyed in Null Sec in a single day, then is destroyed in Empire in a single week.
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Posted - 2012.02.17 16:44:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:I would just like to point out, there are hi-sec natives with as much if not more accounts than 5 per head that don't play your version of Eve. Who log on purely to jew isk and then log off.
So maybe that study should be done before you go around making sensational statements like that.....
There are just as many dead-weight jews in 0.0 as there are in High Sec... doing the same ****, botting it the hell up.
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