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Roxanna Kell
FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.12 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 12/02/2008 17:22:48 EVIL, No wounder i have been hearing some weird buzzing noises from time to time. Sons of a B****s, iam gonna sue.
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MassonA
Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.12 17:27:00 -
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Went into town today and I wondered why my ears just kept ringing
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Weebear
Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.02.12 17:32:00 -
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Yeah, these noise machines aren't the answer... the lot of you should be in National Service at that age anyway :p |

Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2008.02.12 17:46:00 -
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ok... im 28.
last time i went out shopping for games, i gave "Skate" on the ps3 in the store a try. i dont own a console, i dont plan to buy one, but i wanted to have a look at skate.
so i played for about 5 minutes or so, and then this young boy shows up, watches me getting hang of the controls and he challenged me to a lil game.
anyway, soon after he started to complain about a very high pitched noise i couldnt hear, for the life of me... 
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.02.12 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 12/02/2008 18:11:06 Measures to stop revolting chavs congregating outside offlicenses and newsagents are not "persecution".
Sterilising them would be persecution. EVE RELATED CONTENT |

Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.02.12 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Marisal tbh they should conscript any youth into the military if they repeat offend and bring back corporal punishment in schools, one of the biggest reasons kids run rampant these days is because there's no discipline in schools because teachers are so afraid of the kids
Great idea! Take kids that commit crimes and give them years of professional training in military tactics! I SEE NO WAY THIS COULD BACKFIRE! ---------------- Tarminic - 32 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.3 (NEW VERSION!) |

Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.02.12 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Marisal tbh they should conscript any youth into the military if they repeat offend and bring back corporal punishment in schools, one of the biggest reasons kids run rampant these days is because there's no discipline in schools because teachers are so afraid of the kids
Great idea! Take kids that commit crimes and give them years of professional training in military tactics! I SEE NO WAY THIS COULD BACKFIRE!
It also shows them the brutality of the world, a sense of order and discipline that cannot be provided in urban Britain.
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Frezik
Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment
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Posted - 2008.02.12 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Marisal tbh they should conscript any youth into the military if they repeat offend and bring back corporal punishment in schools, one of the biggest reasons kids run rampant these days is because there's no discipline in schools because teachers are so afraid of the kids
Great idea! Take kids that commit crimes and give them years of professional training in military tactics! I SEE NO WAY THIS COULD BACKFIRE!
Military training is necessarily harsh. The effects on a person are usually a net-positive, despite the goals of any military organization as a whole.
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Keorythe
Caldari Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.02.12 18:49:00 -
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Quote: Sir Al Aynsley-Green, children's commissioner for England, said he had spoken to many young people who had been "deeply affected" by the deterrents.
At least we know it works on the emo remnants. I'm for this device 100%! 
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Irias Salo
Caldari The Star Wolves Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:11:00 -
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I was actually laughing about this when I first read it this morning, human rights is just about the excuse everyone uses to complain about this/that/politicans.
As a white British, male, working class, 18 year old I say down with the human rights act, down with chavs, and while we're at it someone shoot Brown.
Back to this 'mosquito' device, never encountered it myself so I can't comment on its use, but if it doesn't discriminate between the lawful (minority unfortunatly) and unlawful (majority) then all I can say is scrap it unles its only turned on when required.
Originally by: Ginger. There is no roleplay, there is only EVE
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TimGascoigne
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava Yes, Britain is a disgrace in that respect, we should have mandatory military service to put the chavs world view into perspective.
you're probably right. I personally have absolutely no objection to national service And wonder why it was stopped in the first place. However I think that the key problem is that it says something very profound to the young. "We don't give a rat's ass about how you feel and what you think, so he is some annoying noise to make you **** off because you are an unsightly the scene." ...........catching up my drift.
This is kind of why I'm annoyed about it even though I haven't come across one of these devices. It's not the noise, it's the insult. Like what if young people were putting up speakers in public playing loud death metal music for the purpose of getting rid of old people as they find this intolerable (and so do I lol). You can bet your lucky stars that the police would be there to bring an end to things in 10 minutes and prosecutions would be on the way. Well this is more words than I normally post but I think you get the idea
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Orgos Khenn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:16:00 -
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The people that came up with this have clearly not thought it through.
Chavs are well known for constantly listening to dodgy drum and bass, gabber and rap on their very, very loud mobile phones; a sound that will probably drown out the chav-whiner device, and will just make them turn their **** up louder.
Way to go. Now I get to listen to Fiddy Shiddy at top volume when I walk down the street. ---- One day...one day General will be worth reading.
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JayCheG
Imperium Forces
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:24:00 -
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Wow and I thought the U.S. with the Patriot and all was the great police state. Thats just plain evil...
I'm talking with Kael to get one put in our corp chat Tim :p
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Magorath
KR0M
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Magorath on 12/02/2008 19:26:19
Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Marisal tbh they should conscript any youth into the military if they repeat offend and bring back corporal punishment in schools, one of the biggest reasons kids run rampant these days is because there's no discipline in schools because teachers are so afraid of the kids
Great idea! Take kids that commit crimes and give them years of professional training in military tactics! I SEE NO WAY THIS COULD BACKFIRE!
It also shows them the brutality of the world, a sense of order and discipline that cannot be provided in urban Britain.
Yeah because it's no longer parents/teachers responsibility to teach order or discipline, this is where things are failing, all these ******* ignorant parents that go into schools and says their little **** is an angel and wouldn't step a toe out of line.
Edit: Type-o's
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Zephyr Rengate
Racketeers
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:35:00 -
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How about parents learn to control their kids. There is a difference to abuse and discipline.
Also the people in the music industry should not be allowed to release music which only promotes yobbish behaviour.
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Kalahari Wayrest
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:38:00 -
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0_o
I found it funny at first, but after giving it some thought it's a bit scary...
I mean, yes, it can target anti social behaviour/chavs/whoever but...it will target everyone else in that age bracket too. So...if you do behave properly, and you're being judged and punished along with the people that don't, purely based on age, then what's the incentive to continue behaving properly? How is this not discrimination? 
And yeah, a 'noise' isn't really a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but it's what it represents...segregating off a section (and entire age range) of society and saying 'you are undesirable.'
It's weird, and seems like very backward thinking (though I understand that it's a simple solution and people are probably using them out of desperation because other alternatives have not worked...) __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 12/02/2008 19:40:40
Originally by: TimGascoigne
Originally by: Kirjava Yes, Britain is a disgrace in that respect, we should have mandatory military service to put the chavs world view into perspective.
you're probably right. I personally have absolutely no objection to national service And wonder why it was stopped in the first place. However I think that the key problem is that it says something very profound to the young. "We don't give a rat's ass about how you feel and what you think, so he is some annoying noise to make you **** off because you are an unsightly the scene." ...........catching up my drift.
This is kind of why I'm annoyed about it even though I haven't come across one of these devices. It's not the noise, it's the insult. Like what if young people were putting up speakers in public playing loud death metal music for the purpose of getting rid of old people as they find this intolerable (and so do I lol). You can bet your lucky stars that the police would be there to bring an end to things in 10 minutes and prosecutions would be on the way. Well this is more words than I normally post but I think you get the idea
Why would anyone give a rats ass what teenagers think and feel?
You don't vote. You don't pay taxes. You are dependants for the most part.
Why should anyone care particularly shopkeepers?
What rights do you imagine you have that you imagine are being violated here? EVE RELATED CONTENT |

Zephyr Rengate
Racketeers
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:43:00 -
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Could people play loud music on their phones to cancel out the noise?
If so great anti young people device 
GG Dail lolmail readers.
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Magorath
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution Edited by: SoftRevolution on 12/02/2008 19:40:40
Why would anyone give a rats ass what teenagers think and feel?
You don't vote. You don't pay taxes. You are dependants for the most part.
Why should anyone care particularly shopkeepers?
What rights do you imagine you have that you imagine are being violated here?
Human Rights But that would imply that the ones causing problems are human....
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 12/02/2008 19:54:23 Clearly these measures wouldn't be being taken if the behaviour they are designed to stop (criminality and intimidation) wasn't affecting the quality of life of other people.
What about their human rights?
Ever hear the expression "Your right to swing your fist stops where my nose starts"?
I assume if you're a shop keeper you're not going to be getting dewy eyed over the local wigga street youfs at the expense of your paying customers. EVE RELATED CONTENT |

Irias Salo
Caldari The Star Wolves Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium
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Posted - 2008.02.12 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution Edited by: SoftRevolution on 12/02/2008 19:40:40
Why would anyone give a rats ass what teenagers think and feel?
You don't vote. You don't pay taxes. You are dependants for the most part.
Why should anyone care particularly shopkeepers?
What rights do you imagine you have that you imagine are being violated here?
Taxes at the age of 16 if we don't go onto futhur education, and at 18 we can vote and die for our country.
Teenagers are the next generation, and thous of us who actually want to contribute to society are having a hard enough time as it is due to the general stereotype. I've lost count of the number of job application forms I've filled in over the last year only to be dismissed becuase I'm male and working class. Lets just hope my application into the army is succesful, at least they don't discriminate against the native people. And yes I am a teenager, 18 and proud of it.
Originally by: Ginger. There is no roleplay, there is only EVE
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Xen Gin
The Dragoons
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Posted - 2008.02.12 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Irias Salo
Originally by: SoftRevolution Edited by: SoftRevolution on 12/02/2008 19:40:40
Why would anyone give a rats ass what teenagers think and feel?
You don't vote. You don't pay taxes. You are dependants for the most part.
Why should anyone care particularly shopkeepers?
What rights do you imagine you have that you imagine are being violated here?
Taxes at the age of 16 if we don't go onto futhur education, and at 18 we can vote and die for our country.
Teenagers are the next generation, and thous of us who actually want to contribute to society are having a hard enough time as it is due to the general stereotype. I've lost count of the number of job application forms I've filled in over the last year only to be dismissed becuase I'm male and working class. Lets just hope my application into the army is succesful, at least they don't discriminate against the native people. And yes I am a teenager, 18 and proud of it.
*Cough Assuming you actually work Cough*
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.02.12 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution Why would anyone give a rats ass what teenagers think and feel?
You don't vote. You don't pay taxes. You are dependants for the most part.
Why should anyone care particularly shopkeepers?
What rights do you imagine you have that you imagine are being violated here?
Seems a few people are agreeing with my 17 year old views, so they give a rats ass apparently.
I wish I could vote - I have to explain to people what the votes actualy are for because they don't bother reading the news and politics apart from the elections. Yes they are my grandparents but they can vote - I can't.
Taxes? VAT? Dependant? I dream of the day I can get out of it, seriously I can feel it dragging me down allmost everyday....
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Lord MuffloN
Caldari Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.02.12 20:30:00 -
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I live in Sweden, I've never heard of such a device or seen/heard anyone using it, but if someone uses it while I'm there, I will specifically stay there and IF I get hurt by it, then I will do something I despise a lot and often criticize other for, I will sue their asses off, and throw a tantrum in the local press, and believe me, a boycott of said store and court, will **** up that store faster then you can imagine.
I've never caused anyone intentionally harm, I never get into fights or provoke someone, but if you threaten me, or my freedom I will do everything in my powers to crush you under my fist, and I'm inclined to believe that devices do threaten my freedom. Believe me, It's a policy I enforce. Many many old persons whom think they are above me or my friends, for no reason at all, have gotten to pay a high price for this.
Originally by: Jago Kain If they ever decide to award a Nobel Prize for Emo, Lord MuffloN is a sure fire winner of the first on
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Gyfrex
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Posted - 2008.02.12 20:34:00 -
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I'm a teenager in the UK, in london to be precise, to be quite fair if you've seen teenagers do some of the things i've seen them do, then you'd genuinely think this is a great idea....if it worked...thing it they just send out a mass text on their phones to tell everyone to meet up on another street corner out of the police's view. Personally I think that anyone causing trouble in a violent manner should have to face up to some nice rubber bullets, and if they are just causing trouble then pressure hose em, sure they'll whine a bit but after being hit 2 or three times I think they'll stop being total ******s....for a while anyway. ---
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SubTig
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Posted - 2008.02.12 20:45:00 -
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ooo I love a good thread where no one has any idea wtf they are on about!!!!
hehehe I even have this on my phone.... works a treat.
I had to laugh at all these poor people who have been violated, who seem to be mainly teenagers complaining.
I could write an essay about this, but can't really be bothered so let me just say as a professional in this field.
It's there because it's needed and it works.
Flame away cos today I'm wearing flame proof pants
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mama guru
Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.02.12 20:58:00 -
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Wow, this is the kind of stuff you'd expect them to invent in Iran or Saudi Arabia.
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |

Xen Gin
The Dragoons
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Posted - 2008.02.12 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/02/2008 21:06:29 I don't know what everyone is BSing about. If you've heard it, you know it doesn't hurt, its just annoying. About as annoying as the sound of university students from Southern California mind you but it doesn't damage or hurt.
And its sounds like crickets chirping, as its not a constant sound.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.02.12 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 12/02/2008 21:45:25
Originally by: mama guru Wow, this is the kind of stuff you'd expect them to invent in Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Nah. In Saudi they'd just haul you off and beat the soles of your feet with wooden clubs.
I wasn't really considering =>18 to be teenagers. You're an adult at that point.
Technically your age does end in "teen" but you no longer belong to this awkward category that did not exist a hundred years ago. It used to go straight from childhood to adulthood. OK we did only live to 40 on average back then but there you go.
If you're 16 and working you should be too tired to mooch about outside at all hours anyway. EVE RELATED CONTENT |

Mtthias Clemi
Gallente The Space Bastards
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Posted - 2008.02.12 21:40:00 -
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Its like that noise that CRTs make GOD IT ****ES ME OFF, i used to go around my house and make sure all the tvs were off because of that sort of thing (we only have flat screens now, so all gd)... i cant say ive ever been to a place that uses this though.. but i live in a fairly posh place.
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