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MalVortex	Posted - 2008.02.12 21:44:00 - [61] God I hope they bring this to the US. I want to be the "teenager" (20 is still a teen, apparently ) that gets set for life through suing everybody involved. Its blatantly discriminatory, and while privacy/civil laws are obviouslly different in Britain, I'm glad something like this would never last an instant in the US. We're In your mall, Being Antisocial.
MassonA Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.12 21:52:00 - [62] Revolution, i'll give you a 8/10 for your excellent trolling.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.02.12 22:04:00 - [63] Who's trolling? I just wish they'd invent one for the homeless as well. Maybe a noise at the exact resonant frequency of white lighting bottles and special brew cans? EVE RELATED CONTENT
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 22:28:00 - [64] Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/02/2008 22:28:05 Originally by: SoftRevolution Who's trolling? I just wish they'd invent one for the homeless as well. Maybe a noise at the exact resonant frequency of white lighting bottles and special brew cans? Or one that seems to inexplicably cause items of fake Burberry clothing to spontaneously combust! That would be cool!
Araxmas An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.02.12 22:36:00 - [65] Originally by: TimGascoigne Despite most teenagers being law-abiding citizens (ie me) and young crime is no higher than any other age group. That's a lie and you know it. Im 18 and I can happily say that my age-group is the biggest bunch of chav screw-ups ever seen to grace the earth. About one in 50 of every person is not a chav so therefore if this machine hurts the majority of violence ass-hats than it's fine by me. -------- The Derek Quote Pyramid
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 22:53:00 - [66] Law abiding teenagers are at home doing homework and are not loitering around outside shops!
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.02.12 22:59:00 - [67] Originally by: Xen Gin Law abiding teenagers are at home doing homework and are not loitering around outside shops! Unless they're...you know...shopping. ---------------- Tarminic - 32 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.3 (NEW VERSION!)
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 23:00:00 - [68] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Xen Gin Law abiding teenagers are at home doing homework and are not loitering around outside shops! Unless they're...you know...shopping. Damn, one tiny flaw in my logic, trust it to be you Tarminic! Curses!
Havok Dryke	Posted - 2008.02.12 23:01:00 - [69] Remind me to cancel my trip to the UK. This sort of countermeasure is discrimination, plain and simple. Blaming an entire demographic for the mistakes caused only by some individuals is how racism starts. Kinda sad to see older people openly discriminating against youths to make themselves feel better about themselves. At least teenagers haven't started any wars yet...
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 23:05:00 - [70] Originally by: Havok Dryke Remind me to cancel my trip to the UK. This sort of countermeasure is discrimination, plain and simple. Blaming an entire demographic for the mistakes caused only by some individuals is how racism starts. Kinda sad to see older people openly discriminating against youths to make themselves feel better about themselves. At least teenagers haven't started any wars yet... Those zimmerframe wars were real deadly weren't they. Still at least we got to laugh at old people falling over!
Rawr Cristina Caldari Cult of Rawr	Posted - 2008.02.12 23:19:00 - [71] Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 12/02/2008 23:23:21 Originally by: SubTig ooo I love a good thread where no one has any idea wtf they are on about!!!! hehehe I even have this on my phone.... works a treat. I had to laugh at all these poor people who have been violated, who seem to be mainly teenagers complaining. I could write an essay about this, but can't really be bothered so let me just say as a professional in this field. It's there because it's needed and it works. Easy to say when you're not the victim, isn't it? Originally by: Riethe There's definitely not any evidence showing that violent crimes are committed primarily by teenagers. Some teenagers just don't get it. Yes, young people may indeed commit twice as much crime as people in other agegroups, but it's still the minority and is thus unfair discrimination against young people who are otherwise perfectly innocent. As someone else said, if they made such a device that only affected Black/Asian people (after all, it's proven fact that they commit more crime), what do you think the response would be? At the end of the day, it's only going to be putting negative vibes into younger people. After all, how would you like it if everyone treated you as if you were some kind of parasite based on nothing but your age? I'm sure you'd have a lot of respect for them, possibly even thank them for it because they're doing you a favour. Oh wait...
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises	Posted - 2008.02.12 23:22:00 - [72] Quote: Those zimmerframe wars were real deadly weren't they. Still at least we got to laugh at old people falling over! Confused Yes.... that was an excellent war... Loved the strategic use of Nanogrannies, I heard they got speeds of up to 0.5 m/sec! Then again, the INMYDAY Alliance put out an impressive showing too... -------------------------------------- Azeria L'Mante > and the lord CCP said, "ye have done wrong" and there was much weeping and gnashing of teeth as the nerfbat fell
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.02.12 23:23:00 - [73] I've started to experience frequency loss, music just doesn't sound as sweet anymore. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Ademaro Imre Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.12 23:33:00 - [74] Where can I buy one of these things? The aim of politics is to keep the populace alarmed and clamorous to be saved by menacing it with imaginary hobgoblins. The urge to save humanity is a false front for the urge to rule it.
Ademaro Imre Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.12 23:35:00 - [75] Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 12/02/2008 23:35:05 Originally by: Lord MuffloN I live in Sweden, I've never heard of such a device or seen/heard anyone using it, but if someone uses it while I'm there, I will specifically stay there and IF I get hurt by it, then I will do something I despise a lot and often criticize other for, I will sue their asses off, and throw a tantrum in the local press, and believe me, a boycott of said store and court, will ** up that store faster then you can imagine. I've never caused anyone intentionally harm, I never get into fights or provoke someone, but if you threaten me, or my freedom I will do everything** in my powers to crush you under my fist, and I'm inclined to believe that devices do threaten my freedom. Believe me, It's a policy I enforce. Many many old persons whom think they are above me or my friends, for no reason at all, have gotten to pay a high price for this. It won't harm you though. Its just annoying. Its like when store managers intentionally change store music to "elevator music," and turn it up when they want to rid the store of certain "patrons." The aim of politics is to keep the populace alarmed and clamorous to be saved by menacing it with imaginary hobgoblins. The urge to save humanity is a false front for the urge to rule it.
Gojyu Ever Flow	Posted - 2008.02.13 00:01:00 - [76] Edited by: Gojyu on 13/02/2008 00:01:12 Originally by: Havok Dryke Remind me to cancel my trip to the UK. This sort of countermeasure is discrimination, plain and simple. Blaming an entire demographic for the mistakes caused only by some individuals is how racism starts. Kinda sad to see older people openly discriminating against youths to make themselves feel better about themselves. At least teenagers haven't started any wars yet... The thing a lot of people don't realise is that discrimination is very much fine if it's actually true. The fact is vandalism, robbery and destruction of property tends to be committed by teenagers. The fact is that anecdotal evidence suggests these things are working. What we need is a large area scientific trial to see whether vandalism and the like goes down with these things on, however some bleeding hearts don't want that because "it'll send a message to young billy that he's being judged by his age rather than everybody agreeing he's a unique and beautiful snow flake". Everyone gets discriminated against by age, we might as well get used to it. Do you have any idea how much 21 year olds pay for car insurance? How about how hard it is for a 30 year old to get unskilled work over a 20 year old? What about how hard it is for any 40 year old to get a job over someone in their late 20's? Or how about all the calls for 50 year olds to have their licenses revoked unless they pass a test. And god help you if you're 60 and want to live an independent life without government handouts. Despite what they teach you in school, every single person in the world discriminates against some group, and it's not always a bad thing.
7shining7one7 Quafe Paladins	Posted - 2008.02.13 00:11:00 - [77] don't worry people, it's the "war on terror" nothing to see here...
Orion Eridanus Dark Nova Crisis Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2008.02.13 00:25:00 - [78] As long as it keeps the damn kids of my damn lawn then I'm ok with it. Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari The Delta Source	Posted - 2008.02.13 00:35:00 - [79] Originally by: Orion Eridanus As long as it keeps the damn kids of my damn lawn then I'm ok with it. Naw, that's what this is for Unsuitable signature removed. Navgator Do you realize how long it took me to size that right to use!?!?!?!
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2008.02.13 00:36:00 - [80] Demonising youth? I see no possible way that this could spiral downwards. What a backwards little island y'all live on. Some punks hanging around outside your shop chasing away customers, call the cops. Thats what you pay them for. Playing a noise for the sole purpose of annoying someone is assault and/or harassment. They say this device doesn't hurt anyone, but neither does shoving someone, spitting in his face, and telling him to ** off. He doesn't need to go to the hospital, so how could it possibly be assault? I'd think the latter is clearly illegal, so why not the first? Isn't this thing essentially telling every single person under 25 "go ** them selves, 'cause you aint welcome here."
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.13 01:12:00 - [81] Originally by: Brea Lafail Demonising youth? I see no possible way that this could spiral downwards. What a backwards little island y'all live on. Some punks hanging around outside your shop chasing away customers, call the cops. Thats what you pay them for. Playing a noise for the sole purpose of annoying someone is assault and/or harassment. They say this device doesn't hurt anyone, but neither does shoving someone, spitting in his face, and telling him to ** off. He doesn't need to go to the hospital, so how could it possibly be assault? I'd think the latter is clearly illegal, so why not the first? Isn't this thing essentially telling every single person under 25 "go ** them selves, 'cause you aint welcome here." LMAO. OK, lets keep calling the police like they've been doing since before the device? Because its obviously worked in the past! OMG, Is that scarecrow scaring away crows? Sue the scarecrow, sue, SUE!!! The crows have the right to feed you know!
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2008.02.13 01:17:00 - [82] Originally by: Xen Gin LMAO. OK, lets keep calling the police like they've been doing since before the device? Because its obviously worked in the past! And who's fault is that? The one innocent party is the law-abiding teens that are impacted by the police's incompetence and ineffectiveness of your legal system.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.13 01:26:00 - [83] Edited by: Xen Gin on 13/02/2008 01:28:50 Originally by: Brea Lafail Originally by: Xen Gin LMAO. OK, lets keep calling the police like they've been doing since before the device? Because its obviously worked in the past! And who's fault is that? The one innocent party is the law-abiding teens that are impacted by the police's incompetence and ineffectiveness of your legal system. Law-abiding teens walk into the shop, buy stuff, and walk out. Not hang around for 20 minutes casing the place, asking people to commit crimes to buy them cigs and drink. If you walk straight pass you barely even notice it, and that's even if its on for the 20 minutes in every hour.
Alexa Devlos	Posted - 2008.02.13 01:26:00 - [84] Sorry, you can't enter this country because of your associations with the middle-east and as such, due to more middle-eastern people commiting acts of Terror than elsewhere in the world, please **** right off.
Tauscha Vald'or	Posted - 2008.02.13 02:23:00 - [85] HAHAHAA. Granted that would have sucked when I was a teen...being productive and all, not standing around texting all the time like you damn kids today. Now pardon me while I totter off to my water aerobics class. I need to pick up some Depends on the way. The diner down the road is having a "Silver Special" too. I need to get there by 7 so my Barbershop Quartet can sing for those hotties from the home. Maybe Bertha will let me play with her motorized scooter again. WHEE!
mamolian Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.13 03:57:00 - [86] Edited by: mamolian on 13/02/2008 03:58:27 From reading some of the articles people posted on the first page there.. I'm getting the impression its not a noise you hear immediately? only upto 5 mins after your sitting within range of the device? If thats the case.. It should only affect crowds of kids hanging around public places.. Often where alot of the antisocial behavior occurs? heh If I had the cash I'd put one on the front of my house/business and if it kept crowed from hanging around I'd even consider it money well spent. So sick of hunting kids away from the front of the house.. Already had the car scratched.. front window broken.. Bloody stressful dealing with other peoples bastard kids.. -----------
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.13 04:25:00 - [87] Originally by: mamolian Edited by: mamolian on 13/02/2008 03:58:27 From reading some of the articles people posted on the first page there.. I'm getting the impression its not a noise you hear immediately? only upto 5 mins after your sitting within range of the device? If thats the case.. It should only affect crowds of kids hanging around public places.. Often where alot of the antisocial behavior occurs? heh If I had the cash I'd put one on the front of my house/business and if it kept crowed from hanging around I'd even consider it money well spent. So sick of hunting kids away from the front of the house.. Already had the car scratched.. front window broken.. Bloody stressful dealing with other peoples bastard kids.. They are ú500 a piece, and to put it in public you need permission from the council. But yeah, you don't hear it straight away, its when you start to rest, then it sort of ticks your ear drum.
Mr Friendly That it Should Come to This Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2008.02.13 06:10:00 - [88] I don't really care if people of <insert age/ethnic/religious/whatever> group are doing most of the things wrong in a particular society... singling out a group is just an awesome way to further alienate those people... Most criminologists agree reintegration rather than retribution/punishment is a far better way to deal with problem areas/groups than just straight up punishment. It costs more, but is better than just shooting/hanging/ostracizing whatever group society is currently **ed off at. Crimes are socially embedded... the way to deal with them is social reintegration/education... not denying they spring from society. In this example, teenagers do the things they do because of the societies we created and live in, not because they are hardened criminals that need to be treated like animals with excellent hearing. For shame. Either involve people in the collective social world the rest of us live in (which is hard), or pay for the excesses the 'chavs' will indulge in when they are licensed by 'legal majority' to do so... In part, I blame parents and lack of structured activities to preempt behaviours that unsupervised kids get into without appropriate guidance. Parents leave raising children to others (underfunded schools, other children, arcades and the like)... yet complain when their kids turn out as they don't want.... wtf? So-called 'primitive' societies don't have these issues with near-adults.. why do we? Can it really be that hard to ensure people of all ages are actively encouraged to participate in their respective cultures? Embrace kids as valuable and responsible throughout their childhoods and you get well adjusted kids. Let them wander the street with no appropriate rolemodels and you get 'teenagers'. Originally by:** Mangala Solaris EVE really doesnt have set goals, its a freeform sandbox - yes a sandbox with kids that occasionally take a dump in it, but a sandbox never the less.
mamolian Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.13 08:48:00 - [89] Originally by: Mr Friendly So-called 'primitive' societies don't have these issues with near-adults.. why do we? I don't ever remember seeing "near-adults" of some of the worlds primitive cultures gathering in groups and behaving antisocially.. because their too busy cleaning the house.. carrying water.. picking through trash looking for ** to sell.. crafting items.. what ever it takes to survive.. Its a sad situation we have in a lot of the 1st world countries.. our kids don't have to spend every waking minute surviving.. the only thing that keeps em busy is entertainment And its not necessarily a bad thing.. heh when I think about it myself.. my every waking and working (when I can get away with it ) minute is taken up with entertainment.. be it playing internetspaceships.. or poasting on forums about internetspaceships I completely agree with you on the Originally by:** Mr Friendly ]"In part, I blame parents and lack of structured activities to preempt behaviours that unsupervised kids get into without appropriate guidance. Beyond entertainment revolving around alcohol consumption.. and sport.. wtf else is there to do for the majority of kids to keep em occupied except roam around in groups scaring old ladies and bugging the **** out of grumpy mofos like me -----------
vanBuskirk Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.13 09:58:00 - [90] A slightly more subtle way of doing the same thing: Linkage Nind you, it would probably work on me as well, and I'm 50 this year. ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."

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