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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.12 13:56:00 -
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Hey can someone (or preferably some people) post describing exactly what the problem is, how it manifests and any potential repro steps? Gonna stick a defect on Tuxford once I understand the symptoms properly. (Although as is usually the case, until we can figure out how to consistently reproduce the issue it's really difficult to fix it or indeed to tell whether or not it's actually fixed - the more detail we can collect on the exact circumstances under which this is happening, the better chance we have of reproducing it "in the lab".) |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.23 17:32:00 -
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Ok, so the three things I'm seeing repeatedly are:
* Drones picking their own targets/going idle (based on aggressive/passive setting I'm assuming) after a fairly consistent delay once you've issued a command * Drones failing to focus fire * Drones catching a fast target, dropping to normal speed and immediately getting left behind
Am I missing something or are those the major problems?
Wa'roun wrote:Another OMG...How about actually playing the game and see? It doesn't take long to see the crap we have endured for years, and even more intensely now since Incarna.
I shouldn't have to keep my finger on my Drones Attack key all the time.
I mainly fly Amarr, we don't usually get a whole lot of drones  |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.23 17:38:00 -
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What sort of rats is this happening with? Drones shouldn't be selecting targets until you're actually fired upon (red box rather than yellow box). |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:57:00 -
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Just spent an hour poking at this and totally failing to get a reproduction for drones switching targets. Tried with Hammerheads, Gardes and Ogres, tried issuing target orders just before, just after, and a second after the target died, and even tried hacking the Ogres to have a10s RoF to see if that'd help. In all cases they're working as advertised (focus fire and aggressive).
Obviously this problem is still happening in the wild, but it doesn't seem to be reproducing on our internal test servers which makes it somewhat difficult to track down. I'll try and give it another poke later in the week and see if I can find anything more, but right now I don't have a whole lot to go on :( |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:29:00 -
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Was at a conference all last week, sorry. |
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CCP Affinity
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:36:00 -
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I am going to look into this further today, I will update this thread with more information as soon as I have it. CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:23:00 -
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Shuckstar wrote:CCP Affinity wrote:I am going to look into this further today, I will update this thread with more information as soon as I have it. Pls watch the fraps and read whole thread all you need to know is in here, you just gotta do the hard bit and try fix it......
I have done already :) We are working on this and I will keep you updated CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.10.20 11:29:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:Cant help but notice the silence....
I suspect both Greyscale and Affinity have "forgotten" ( read ignored ) to actually bother trying to find out :P Like doing WiS stuff instead...
I am on it... please just understand we have been through a very difficult time.
Team BFF are working on defects for these issues, they are *not* by design and we are investigating the causes. CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.10.21 13:34:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:Grey Stormshadow wrote:Vaako... lets give them little slack now... If drone fix is in the production pipeline now the goal has been reached. The assembly line is long and got many steps before final product hits tranq. If fix comes before xmas, they've done very decent work.
When you know that something is being done, the waiting isn't that bad. I'll give it some slack once they confirm they have located the issue and will attempt a fix. As it is atm we know Greyscale attempted once and failed and then nothing... I am not saying I want a fix right this minute ( which I ofc want :D :D :D ) but I want to see they are trying even if it is "I tested this for 5min today and found nothing", it would show they are doing something other then just sitting there. ( which ofc they can do regardless as we cant confirm it either way :P )
Greyscale is on my team :) We are working on it. The reason for his delayed communication, as he said above, was a conference in a different country. I am currently testing mining drones thoroughly and working with Greyscale and Frellicus to determine what is causing this. I cannot start giving day-by-day diaries of my exact testing but I will, as previously stated, keep this thread updated and keep checking it :) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.10.21 13:50:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:oh wait, was that a confirmation that you actually encountered the issues?
Yes :) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.10.25 10:34:00 -
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We are still working on this :) We have uncovered an issue, as I mentioned, it is not by design.. but it's going to take more than 3 days to fix and deploy this :) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.10.25 11:09:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:I fully expect it to be ignored/forgotten... mostly because I have yet to see CCP deliver on their words... ( and ofc that I am a little negative in general :D, better to expect nothing and be happy when you get something then expect something and never get it ) Its 3 days since CCP's confirmation about these issues and not a single word from Affinity, Greyscale or Frellicus. And even if they resolv the issues that patch itself will most likely not be released until something else is. Despite that these fixes should have been out long ago :P Its "nice" to see them fix the overview issues so fast when the drones issues are just as big but way WAY down the list :P
We (BFF) are working on this and we are hoping to get the fix out in the winter expansion. Please note, we cannot 100% guarantee this, but it is our current goal. I will keep you updated when there's any progress or when new discoveries are made. CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Diagoras
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:22:00 -
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Come on guys, be nice to Affinity. You're making her bitter and angry! She's just trying to help  CCP Diagoras |
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CCP Diagoras
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.26 09:07:00 -
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My role is simply to serve. Now, let us all be nice to Affinity. She's got a tough job to get done! Without these lovely QA people we'd find ourselves in a bit of a pickle. CCP Diagoras |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.10.26 10:24:00 -
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Svaste wrote:CCP Affinity wrote:We are still working on this :) We have uncovered an issue, as I mentioned, it is not by design.. but it's going to take more than 3 days to fix and deploy this :) I'm glad you have been on this for three days. I'll take your coment as confirmation that CCP Greyscale did nothing what-so-ever as we suspected. (oh he was at a conference for one week out of the 15 weeks that drones have been broken)
"we" being BFF and Greyscale is on BFF and worked on this with me. CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.10.26 12:13:00 -
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Quote:
"we" being BFF and Greyscale is on BFF and worked on this with me.
Quote: Easy tiger... :D :D I wish you all the best but, as said before, try looking at if from our point of view... Yes its great you have started but this issue needs to get on double time. its one of the core weapon systems in EVE and its broken... ( has been for a huge amount of time )
I completely get why you are annoyed. I was just reiterating what I had previously stated, that the entire team have taken on this issue :) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.10.31 15:06:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Also, Affinity only has 30 something likes. THIS MUST BE FIXED!!!!
Everyone like all of her posts :-D Liking is so yesterday... spread some love :)
aww :3 CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Masterplan
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.04 11:07:00 -
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I've been looking into this for the past few days. Thanks to a great video from Grey Stormshadow, I've managed to get a simple reliable repro for the case where mining drones go idle shortly after a roid pops and they are assigned to a new one. I'm working through a couple of possible solutions, and also trying to figure out how this applies to combat drones. |
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CCP Affinity
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.04 11:10:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:Any updates today Affinity?
CCP Masterplan is on the case - I will update when the testing begins :) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.11.09 16:16:00 -
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Fear not - When they go on SISI I will let you all know so you can help me test the fixes ;) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.11.10 09:25:00 -
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Deleros Revo wrote:CCP Affinity wrote:Fear not - When they go on SISI I will let you all know so you can help me test the fixes ;) Off topic: At default picture size, if your portrait would have red hair, it'll be A.L.I.A.S' portrait. Just noticed. 
shhh .. i'm in disguise... CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.11 10:27:00 -
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Malus Rimor wrote:It would be nice when I dc in missions that my t2 drones arent lost.
My ship warps out when I dc, can my drones warp out with me? Even a "re-connect to lost drones" like we can do with probes would suffice (if I can get back on grid quick enough before they are popped) so that I can quickly suck them back in.
If I dc, I have to slowboat some random distance, e.g. 60km to try and retrieve the drones before they get popped (2.5km range before you can pull them back in). They usually are all dead by the time I get to them, sometimes I might get one or two out. I then have to fly back to a station and restock up with drones, and then fly back out to the mission ... and THEN through any acceleration gates to get back to where I was!
Please fix this, drones are a big part of EVE ... internet disconnects happen, thats why you have the ship warpout. Please handle drones also.
I think you should visit here : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=32105 ;) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Masterplan
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Posted - 2011.11.14 22:04:00 -
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Those of you who have reported problems with drones not following your orders: I'd like you to try and get on to Singularity and see how they behave now please. Specifically the two different cases of mining drones when an asteroid pops, and combat drones when a target is destroyed. If you encounter issues, please give me as much detail (ship type, fitting, drone types, NPCs, timestamp, etc) as possible. Also your passive/aggressive/focus-fire settings. I'll follow this up with more info as I get feedback. Thanks! |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.11.15 11:13:00 -
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All hail CCP Masterplan :) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.11.21 10:27:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:Vaako Horizon wrote:Nyio wrote:Drones seems to work better now on Sisi, they've got their aggro back and sticks to one target. I've been using Hammerhead II and Hobgoblin II only and can't say how the rest of them work. But it looks good!  focus fire, target sticking and reconnect... Its by far 3 of the most wanted fixes. Only thing missing now is a word from CCP in regards to implants and a new drone control ui/method. I think they mentioned before they were considering a new drone control thingy but I never really seen any info about it. And ofc the before mentioned overview attack command issue which I dont think that meny have even put a thougth into :P Would be nice if they fixed it too :D It would seem as if they are reluctent to discuss it futher :D
I cannot comment on what features we will change in future releases... but the drone fix this thread was initially about is going to be in Crucible ;) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.12.11 14:39:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:Had to bump this one because the issue has returned...
Or atleast it did for me on the "blockade" mission ( lvl 4 )... Drones scattred to several different rats and when ordered otherwise they did as told a few s and then returned to their own targets.
This was my first occurance with this issue since the patch and so I ask... while the issue is fixed as such is there any chance based ( 1%? ) AI screwup that we should be aware of ?
And now also "Recon 1/3"
Edit: "The Score" too :P did check a bit further and the issue only comes when I myself do not issue any orders... which means focus fire still doesnt work, giving them an order does work :D
I will take a look and get back to you :) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2012.01.12 11:27:00 -
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Christmas vacation :) I have tried to repro this with no success - will give it another go CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF
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