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Sebiestor Jackal
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: L3xCia on 31/03/2004 14:00:09
Yesterday 3-30-04 18:42 GMT I had just bought my brand spanking new MegaThron from Luminaire and flew down to AMI system to do a little 0.4 NPC hunting. A few minutes i'm locked down, warp scrammbled and webbed and taking massive hits from a Pirate named "OmegaTron"
All my shields and armor is now gone and he's working into my structure, then he stops firing!?! I thought maybe he ran out of ammo? Then i get a private convo from him. Now i don't know how to paste a chat log but i'll type what i can remember. sry
OmegaTron - u have 10 seconds to transferr 20mil in my account or u will lose your ship!
L3xcia - stop shooting this is my new ship ( i know...sad )
Omega - 5 secs NOW!
L3x - i don't have any isk i just bought this ship
L3x - stop shooting ( i had about 15% structure and 1 more shot from his torps or cruise whatever he was shooting was going to kill me)
Omega - 3sec find someone who has the money NOW!
L3x - plz don't kill me i have no money ( or something embarrassing like that)
Omega - get out of your ship and i'll give u 50mil that will cover your insurance ( he said something like that)
L3x - but i paid 100mil for it?
Omega - either get out of your ship and take the 50mil or lose your ship and get nothing
(at this point i knew i didn't insure my ship and what he didn't know was that i had on a full set of implant!)
L3x - ok ok stop i'll eject, but how will i know if u guve me the isk?
Omega - u don't
so i took his offer and ejected from my ship and he did give me the 50mil.
P.S. what i didn't relize until after was the 40% insurance u get anyways so i would have got atleast 40mil back if i selfdestructed. owell lesson learned
can somebody plz kill that bastard plzzz
his name is OmegaTron and was last seen in AMI and Daran systems. plz kill him anyone. also can someone tell me how to paste a chat log or where to find it in the eve folders? thx
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:17:00 -
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losing a ship? NO!! NEVER!?!?!
10^10000 - frigates
lots - haulers
2 x moa
2-3 x bb
1 x caracal
2 x armageddon
1 x scorpion
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NocturN
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:17:00 -
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To decrease your chances of getting ganked, always keep local chat window open somewhere on your screen and don't go to the belts if you see pirates on local.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 31/03/2004 17:22:33
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yes - my respekt goes to that pirat - and u shuld realize how lucky u were that it was a honorable pirat!
i hope this rant hasent hurt the pirats feelings - u n0rty whiner 
dude your Sig is killing me
reminds me when i was a n00b flying around with nothing but F0F's on in a Merlin thx for the memory's Siddy
my plesure
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:22:00 -
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Use that 50M to hire mercs to attack Plague of Darkness.
They are only 7 members and they like to hang out in Shemah to mine.
S******dly seem to be a popular choice for the dirty work.
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HostageTaker
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:36:00 -
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What was the loadout on your Megathron? It can't have been very well thought out if this guy managed to devastate your shields and armour in so little time. I certainly don't mean to sound like a know it all or anything like that, but I notice that you have only been playing since January, so I wonder whether you have the skills to fly a Megathron into less than 0.4 space and keep it in one piece should you encounter pirates (which is inevitable really). I'm not saying it 'serves you right', nobody likes to lose a ship, but 0.4 and below is pirate hunting ground, don't go there if you aren't prepared to fend off or escape from.
As for adding a bounty to this guy, he's got a 0.3 sec rating, so any bouty would have to be a personal agreement between the victim and anyone taking on the job.
When you get a new ship, think about the loadout before you go bounding off into lower sec space in search of rats.
when i started i had trained right up into a BS ignoreing everything else. I mined in a Exquerer or something like that for 2 months straight. and finaly had enough for a BS. I currently only have gunnery 5, S hybrid lvl 3, M hybrid lvl 3 and large hybrid lvl 1
thats all i have for gunnery skills
Invest some time in gunnery, seriously... if it wasn't for this guy who ransomed you outta your BS, it would have been a few NPCs and then you'd only have 40% insurance payout.
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Gween
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:44:00 -
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Is water wet?
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:49:00 -
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Use that 50M to hire mercs to attack Plague of Darkness.
They are only 7 members and they like to hang out in Shemah to mine.
S******dly seem to be a popular choice for the dirty work.
good job my friend but we never mine in the same system twice in 1 week besides if i can keep this up i'll never have to mine again
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 31/03/2004 17:58:36
Gimme that 50M or we'll declare on you
Nice job with the kill though - a n00b and her ship is soon parted
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.03.31 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Mon Palae on 31/03/2004 18:37:37
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thank you very much but i don't think i have the skills for a Microwarpdrive
And you fly a battleship!
It's already been said but bears repeating. You are in NO way ready to fly a battleship with your skills so sorely lacking. It really was just a matter of time (and not much at that) till you lost it.
In many ways you are more your ship than the ship is. It is remarkable how much you can improve ship performance on a given ship just via your skills. I'm six months into the game and I am still improving on my cruiser (although now it is mostly down to minor improvements in performance). I see our new recruits, despite advice, go out and get wasted once they clamber into their first tier-3 frigate or get their first cruiser. They assume the ship itself makes them tough and more often than not get killed thinking that.
That you did the same thing as our new recruits in a battleship just drives the point home in a much bigger way. That you are flying a battleship and can't use something as basic and common as an MWD is astounding (I know MWD takes a fair bit of training but it is still practically a basic requirement for all pilots). My guess is you're lucky to make that ship a tenth of what it can be considering your lack of skills. Add to that flying a brand new battleship that you seemingly could just barely afford and get into then flying it uninsured into low-sec space with a head full of implants.... Frankly you were lucky to come out with anything.
This is not all to say we don't feel your pain. It stinks to lose a ship...any ship. Sadly you just did it in much more expensive ship than most do for starters. Most people manage to have a cruiser or three blown out from underneath them and learn to respect what can happen in low sec space and (try) to be prepared for it (or at the very least know how to spot danger coming and maybe get away). You really are lucky you came out of it all as well as you did.
And as much as it pains me to say it kudos to OmegaTron for playing the pirate to the hilt. I can't say as I like getting chased and killed by pirates but ultimately pirates like him make the game more interesting and fun for all rather than just some greifer blowing ships to hell wherever they can.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2004.03.31 18:53:00 -
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@Nyphur: 0.4 doesnt have concord about....only thing that is there to protect u are the sentryguns...but thats it and there are none in belts etc :P
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Man, eve rules so much. This is one of the best pirate stories I have ever heard. I want to give this guy a medal or a trophy or a trophy made of medals.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2004.03.31 19:06:00 -
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sheesh! can't i get alittle syphothy here i'm still new to this game. i appreciate the advice from the others but some of you r just cruel
You want a little advice? I think you jumped into a battelship far too early. I'm sticking to cruisers until I can afford to replace a lost a battleship and can fit it with good gear.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.03.31 19:13:00 -
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It's been said, but it's important enough to be repeated a couple of times. Do not fly what you cannot afford to lose. Flying into <0.5 with a uninsured BS you can't fly knowing EW well enough to know someone used some sort of jamming device is well suicide really.
My advice, use that 50mil to have some fun in a cruiser ( a fully insured one ) and work those skills and be amazed at what you can do with a couple of mil of skillpoints backing up your cruiser compared to what you could do when you bought your first ever cruiser.
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
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ZzeusS
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Posted - 2004.03.31 19:13:00 -
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well, to have no insurance, mmmmmmm, to have no insurance and not fit at least 2 warp stabs, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Exactly.
sheesh! can't i get alittle syphothy here i'm still new to this game. i appreciate the advice from the others but some of you r just cruel
Never go under a .5 system if you are alone.
or have checked the map and it's a small area,
or you know people that are operating in that system that will protect you
or you are in a corp.
I would never fly in a .4 or under without insurance even flying a frigate.
you actually didn't make out too bad. I do have sympathy for you, but considering there are lots of pirates out there that would not have even said a word before they dusted your new BS, you really had an easy lesson of it.
Don't go to .4 or under until you just cannot stand .5+
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.03.31 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Gariuys on 31/03/2004 19:30:09
Edited by: Gariuys on 31/03/2004 19:28:31
Edited by: Gariuys on 31/03/2004 19:25:44
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well, to have no insurance, mmmmmmm, to have no insurance and not fit at least 2 warp stabs, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Exactly.
sheesh! can't i get alittle syphothy here i'm still new to this game. i appreciate the advice from the others but some of you r just cruel
Never go under a .5 system if you are alone.
or have checked the map and it's a small area,
or you know people that are operating in that system that will protect you
or you are in a corp.
I would never fly in a .4 or under without insurance even flying a frigate.
you actually didn't make out too bad. I do have sympathy for you, but considering there are lots of pirates out there that would not have even said a word before they dusted your new BS, you really had an easy lesson of it.
Don't go to .4 or under until you just cannot stand .5+
Ehm you're acting like 0.1-0.4 empire is crawling with pirates. It's not, check the map for hotspots, keep an eye on local, and you will do fine.
Edit: Easiest way to do this that I've found is get rid of the useless round thingie at the right bottom. setup your scanner so it shows you everything you need and put that in it's place. Put your local in the right top of your screen ( don't make it to big ) and pin it there. LEave the left bottom for assets,people and places, corp channel, stuff like that ( I keep em all together if I'm not expecting any mayor lag if I expect mayor lag every window save the ones that are really really needed get closed ) It cuts into the amount of pretty graphics you can see but pinning some windows and making the UI transparent lets you have all the info you need on screen and still leaves you with plenty of eye candy.
Edit2: forgot a couple of windows ;) I keep gang on the right side between local and the scanner, and cargo hold above the corp chat ( and assets etc. ) and drones right above the module activation thingie. And I keep drones and cargo closed most of the time, those 4 icons at the bottom come in handy when you need em but that ain't that often IMO
Edit3: damn I'm stupid I keep my journal and mission information stacked with local as well when running missions you don't need that information often but I like to keep things within reach.
P.S. keep all of your windows far enough of the edge of your screen so you can still see the icons that show up there.
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2004.03.31 19:47:00 -
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Or you could take your 50 mil isk add 11 mil and buy a Dominix off the market in verge, and as the others said stay out of .4 and lower space till you get your skills up, one thing you didn't mention was at what distance did you hop into the belt at? cause it takes a while for a BS to lock when you saw a red player before he got a lock on you, you should have bailed.
Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug!
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C4w3
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Posted - 2004.03.31 20:09:00 -
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I have omegatrons corps if you wanna play with him
And to make you abit happier they lost 3-4 BS last week *evil laughter*
So hmm omegatron pirate.... *join the dark side, join Corp 1*
Sincearly C4w3.
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.03.31 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 31/03/2004 17:58:36
Gimme that 50M or we'll declare on you
Nice job with the kill though - a n00b and her ship is soon parted
thx m8
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.03.31 20:33:00 -
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I have omegatrons corps if you wanna play with him
And to make you abit happier they lost 3-4 BS last week *evil laughter*
So hmm omegatron pirate.... *join the dark side, join Corp 1*
Sincearly C4w3.
hmm? not my corpse u have my corp mates GEDREX cause he was the only 1 who got podded that day in YMP. and we lost 2 BS's a Scorpion and a Raven i got away in my Scorp with very little structure. and there was only 3 of us and 8 of u guys. I also gave my respect to u guys in another thread in Crime and Punishment.
come on C4w3 u know better than that to lie....or did u forget?
and no i will not join your Corp C4w3 but thx anyways.
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C4w3
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Posted - 2004.03.31 20:50:00 -
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Did not recall it what soever but ok all co0l.
All im saying is that i did not know you where pirates thats all.
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.03.31 21:21:00 -
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For the first time in a long time, I've got more respect for the pirate, than his victim.
First of all, this pirate did what pirates (IMHO) should do: Earn a lot of isk for ransom, not ganking. Being able to think out how to earn three times as much as the first request of 20M requires some real bartering skills (and some battleskills too). Kudos to you. I don't know if I would have chosen to eject, since I allways have insured my ships. (EVE isn't what I call 100% stable). But that is just me.
For the victim, I can't really feel sorry for her. I've lost a ship myself that I couldn't afford to loose because of the old live and learn motto. (It was a bestower full of tradegoods with good afterburners (pre castor), trying to reach a gate in a 0.3 system. Lesson learnt. Again, thank you TWD for being such a great tutor!) I don't blame anyone but myself (and the crappy market bug at that time), and I stayed out of 0.4->0.0 systems for a long time after that.
What I see from this...:
1. mistake/stupidity: Going straight to Battleship without training any of the support skills. (Remember the pilot is often more worth than the ship itself.) I allways tell people to go through the skills first, before getting the bs. And at least use it safely (mine in 0.5 or higher) before you can drive it properly.
2. mistake/stupidity: Going straight to a < 0.5 belt. You didn't even try flying in the belt in a cruiser before you brought your bs?
3. mistake/stupidity: Not using it for mining at least some ore in case you got wasted.
4. mistake/stupidity: Going to systems you don't know, and that is according to the others here, pirate infested.
5. mistake/stupidity: Getting into pirate territory without experience at all about what you will meet, what you may experience. (ref: warp scrambler, target jammers, propulsion jammers, pc's with ³ber gunnery/missile skills)
6. mistake/stupidity: Telling the forum that you did get a bs asap even though others warned you about it... How do expect to get sympathy for this? Please, all you new ones out there. Learn from this. I guess you would have done much better in a Thorax if you had use the time training for a mega for some of the most basic skills like mwd, weapon upgrades etc etc etc instead.
First thing I did when I got my Dominix was mining for an Mega. First thing I did in my mega was mining and doing agent missions for funds, so that 50% insurance + funds would get me a new mega. Then mining for an apoc, that I use now mainly for mining. This way I would have ships to mine with in case I loose my mega to some stupidity(tm).
Maybe this just proves why "Women can't drive(tm)". *hides for the flames*
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Lump Hammer
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Posted - 2004.03.31 21:57:00 -
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L3xcia, you just have to write this one off to experience. A hard lesson, but you are not the first and you won't be the last. Going solo in systems below 0.5 is dangerous now, because of the number of player pirates trawling the belts... there's a lot of them making a living off less experienced players like you. Maybe you could take a couple of friends with you next time, lone pirates will think twice if they see 3x bs's rigged for combat.
Some of the above posts about skills are misleading, sure they're essential but they are not the full answer, combat experience is needed too. You can learn much by play-fighting people in the same corp, even in safe systems (note it must be the same CORP to avoid concord intervention). You can take each other down to structure and it won't cost you an isk to fix, if you can use armour and hull repair modules.
But realistically you can expect to lose a few more ships yet to more experienced pvp'ers, before you can make it an even fight.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.03.31 22:45:00 -
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half the people here are trying to take all the fun away from you. Me? I had a bs before I had gunnery lvl5 and I was off killing npcs with medium guns before I had skills for the large ones. Imo its more fun to train your skills whilst in a bs....after all, there is no point in having the 100mils if your not gonna spend it.
True, you should look in local, but you should also get a nice cushion of isk in your wallet you can use to pay ransoms.
Contrary to what several people have said on this thread, all pirates I know keep to their word on ransoms and to top that, I have never heard of some1 paying a ransom then the pirate blowing them up. After all, it waould be bad for business
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Rapturea
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Posted - 2004.03.31 23:04:00 -
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What are you doing in a battleship with those skills? Most people could have done that same thing to you in a CRUISER. lady or no lady,that was still a very stupid thing to do. Also, dont expect to be treated specially just because you happen to be a lady, you make the whole bunch of us sound like whining idiots.
if you are interested in making back some of your loss eve-mail me maybe i can think of something for you to do
When I was a kid my favorite relative was Uncle Caveman. After school we'd all go play in his cave, and every once in a while he would eat one of us. It wasn't until later that I found out that Uncle Caveman was a bear. -jack handy |
L3xCia
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Posted - 2004.04.01 00:07:00 -
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i want to thank everyone for your advice and insults this WILL be a lesson learned thank you OmegaTron for keeping your word and being a true Pirate. but like they say what go's around comes around
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.04.01 00:58:00 -
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i want to thank everyone for your advice and insults this WILL be a lesson learned thank you OmegaTron for keeping your word and being a true Pirate. but like they say what go's around comes around
That's the spirit!
Payback can be a *****!
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Miyoko Sanae
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Posted - 2004.04.01 01:09:00 -
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how can you be flying a megathrone not too long ago and still be new to the game o_O
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2004.04.01 01:12:00 -
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People make 0.4 and lower space sound so unsafe on here. It really isn't if you keep your eyes open and actually plan ahead. It just takes a bit more focus than being afk in secure space is all :P
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voogru
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Posted - 2004.04.01 01:18:00 -
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Okay let me get this strait.
You trained strait to bs, didnt train any gunnery or any other skills? No offense but you deserved to lose that BS. Props to the pirate though.
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2004.04.01 06:37:00 -
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Just a couple suggestions for the future...
1) Learn to use a MWD before getting a new battleship. You do NOT want to fly a battleship without an MWD. Last time I lost hauler in 0.0 space I passed a couple non-MWD'd battleships approaching gates... in a POD. Trust me, 120-160 m/sec is unbearable!
2) With 50 mil, you can afford a Thorax, full insurance, good equipment, and be able to replace it all. Stay with the cruisers until you can control several heavy drones, use large turrets, and use a MWD. A battleship loses much of its effectiveness without those skills. A Thorax can mine almost as well as a battleship and hunt any spawns you'll find in Empire space, so you don't really NEED a battleship until you head out to 0.0 space. And you do NOT want to go into 0.0 space in a ship you can't use well yet...
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