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Bogenhagen
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Posted - 2004.04.01 07:07:00 -
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My preference...if I get caught and completely locked down, the rat will get no isk except for the junk I have equipped.
A sidenote, at least you don't have to start from scratch, but before you go and hop in a new BS...train up some skills to equip it properly.
Rule 1: Never use anything you can't afford to lose.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.04.01 07:31:00 -
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lack of imagination + Noob + BS = resepie for loosing ur ship
When i got my first BS - i spent a hours and houers to think possible ways to loose it and counttermesures (how to keep it)
and first thing i did is to inshure it 99%
its a cruel world out there  -------------------------------------------
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Synapse Archae
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Posted - 2004.04.01 07:33:00 -
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I wouldnt go after him personally. Any pirate who holds you up that professionally, and actually GIVES you the 50mil, is a player I'm willing to respect. "...'Nought but a humble pirate," as they say. I respect people who make a living off it, its the gankers I'm out to kill.
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Qutsemnie
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Posted - 2004.04.01 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Qutsemnie on 01/04/2004 09:19:20 Theres no point in going after him. I suppose you could justify putting 10million on his bounty considering your up 10 million from where you would be if you hadnt had taken his deal. So in that sense its no loss to you its his money on the his bounty. But the whole bounty system seems questionable so all and all just forget about him and move on.
Thats not eve experience talking thats life experience. If you put effort into a vendetta then you loose twice. Better to just loose once and if you feel that strongly about it dont cut deals in the future. =)
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.04.01 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Ra on 01/04/2004 10:43:14 hmmm
about: 30xkestrels 20xBlackbirds 4xscorps
        
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Denyerec
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Posted - 2004.04.01 10:52:00 -
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Siddy I really hope English isn't your first language.
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L3xCia
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Posted - 2004.04.01 12:49:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Sun Ra on 01/04/2004 10:43:14 hmmm
about: 30xkestrels 20xBlackbirds 4xscorps
        
thx Sun Ra now i don't feel so bad

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L3xCia
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Posted - 2004.04.01 12:50:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Qutsemnie on 01/04/2004 09:19:20 Theres no point in going after him. I suppose you could justify putting 10million on his bounty considering your up 10 million from where you would be if you hadnt had taken his deal. So in that sense its no loss to you its his money on the his bounty. But the whole bounty system seems questionable so all and all just forget about him and move on.
Thats not eve experience talking thats life experience. If you put effort into a vendetta then you loose twice. Better to just loose once and if you feel that strongly about it dont cut deals in the future. =)
his security status is a 0.2 i can't put a bounty on him
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GEDREX
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Posted - 2004.04.01 12:57:00 -
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nice job boss ************************************************
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Mikelangelo
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Posted - 2004.04.01 14:15:00 -
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You can't even use an MWD and you were in a battleship???  
There is more to skills than mining skills, starship command and gunnery skills.
Gotta have the right fitting skills, which means engineering, electronics, navigation, mechanic and a whole host of others which combined with the right combat skills, can save your sorry butt in that situation.
You were doomed from the instant you bought that battleship. Just be grateful that you still have your implants and that pirate was honorable and kept his word.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.04.01 14:43:00 -
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You shouldn't really fly a battleship till you have 3-4mil skill points, if u have less stick to mining in 0.5+ 
Also get insurance if your gonna be in 0.0-0.4 its more than worth it now it lasts for 12 weeks, i couldnt have afforded so much losses without it 
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ermo
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Posted - 2004.04.01 15:12:00 -
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Ok, I skim read most of this post, but theres 1 thing I didn't see, so I apologise if its here or I've misunderstood the actions of the pirate.
OmegaTron ransoms your ships you cant pay - he says get out and I will give u 50 mill for destroying it ( a very nice gesture indeed).
So you get out and save about 20-30mill in implants. He then destroys your ship from which you get 40% basic insurance back which is about 40 odd mill.
He then pays you 50 mill
So lets do some maths here you got 40mill insurance and 50 mill from him which = 90mill you saved 20-30 mill from not losing your implants so thats around 120-130 mill
so in my eyes you broke even you lost a ship for literally nothing as you have the money to buy a brand new 1 give or take 10 mill.
So why do you want the guy killed? He could have killed you and your ship and youd be out of pocket to the sum of around 140mill maybe.
You should consider yourself extremely lucky that you had a gentleman pirate attack you!!
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ermo
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Posted - 2004.04.01 15:16:00 -
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or did you get out of the ship and he took your ship? in which case you could have stolen 1 of the ships when he went to dock with 1!?!?
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DeGrand
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Posted - 2004.04.01 15:43:00 -
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Whats this blablabla stuff about MWD`s? U guys use em? I don`t...not on a BS anyways..25% shields and cap down is well...sucky...I say forget aboit the mwd and get the skill for stabilizers..slap on a couple and u can escape...mwd will do nothing for you other than getting u to die faster when ur in probs..
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Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2004.04.01 16:36:00 -
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Quote: Whats this blablabla stuff about MWD`s? U guys use em? I don`t...not on a BS anyways..25% shields and cap down is well...sucky...I say forget aboit the mwd and get the skill for stabilizers..slap on a couple and u can escape...mwd will do nothing for you other than getting u to die faster when ur in probs..
Eeeeh, right...
If your BS does not have an MWD, you'll be dead slow and a softer target then when you do have one. The stabs are good to have tho, but alot of pirates use two scramblers now btw.
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.04.01 18:25:00 -
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Quote: Ok, I skim read most of this post, but theres 1 thing I didn't see, so I apologise if its here or I've misunderstood the actions of the pirate.
OmegaTron ransoms your ships you cant pay - he says get out and I will give u 50 mill for destroying it ( a very nice gesture indeed).
So you get out and save about 20-30mill in implants. He then destroys your ship from which you get 40% basic insurance back which is about 40 odd mill.
He then pays you 50 mill
So lets do some maths here you got 40mill insurance and 50 mill from him which = 90mill you saved 20-30 mill from not losing your implants so thats around 120-130 mill
so in my eyes you broke even you lost a ship for literally nothing as you have the money to buy a brand new 1 give or take 10 mill.
So why do you want the guy killed? He could have killed you and your ship and youd be out of pocket to the sum of around 140mill maybe.
You should consider yourself extremely lucky that you had a gentleman pirate attack you!!
i didn't destroy her ship i paid her 50mil for it ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |

OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.04.01 18:32:00 -
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Quote: or did you get out of the ship and he took your ship? in which case you could have stolen 1 of the ships when he went to dock with 1!?!?
after she was told to eject from her ship and leave the system in her pod and i then payed her the 50mil and besides it sounds like she only has the skills to pilot a Gallente BS.
the difficult part was i had no one to help me do this so i had to warp to a station buy a shuttle warp back eject and entered the Mega. all the while there were 3 other players in local ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |

OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.04.01 18:34:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Whats this blablabla stuff about MWD`s? U guys use em? I don`t...not on a BS anyways..25% shields and cap down is well...sucky...I say forget aboit the mwd and get the skill for stabilizers..slap on a couple and u can escape...mwd will do nothing for you other than getting u to die faster when ur in probs..
Eeeeh, right...
If your BS does not have an MWD, you'll be dead slow and a softer target then when you do have one. The stabs are good to have tho, but alot of pirates use two scramblers now btw.
u would also have the chance to move out of the range of the webber and warp scrambler. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |

Laughing Boy
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Posted - 2004.04.01 19:36:00 -
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Sorry for your loss, but you will learn in time how to avoid the hotspots and also once your skills are a little higher you will have a better chance of escape. It's always annoying to lose a battleship, but at least you didn't lose everything and you dont have much farther to go to get a dominix. 
Good job to OmegaTron for both the capture of the ship and your honor in keeping your word.
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L3xCia
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Posted - 2004.04.04 05:10:00 -
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Quote:
You can't even use an MWD and you were in a battleship???  
There is more to skills than mining skills, starship command and gunnery skills.
Gotta have the right fitting skills, which means engineering, electronics, navigation, mechanic and a whole host of others which combined with the right combat skills, can save your sorry butt in that situation.
You were doomed from the instant you bought that battleship. Just be grateful that you still have your implants and that pirate was honorable and kept his word.
i know i know i'm training up my gunnery and navigation skills now. I have learnt a lesson trust me
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L3xCia
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Posted - 2004.04.04 05:12:00 -
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well i have now bought a Dominix a couple of days ago and staying in high security until my skills are up. thx again for everyones sympothy and "a lessons learnt" advice.
thx, L3x
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ZzeusS
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Posted - 2004.04.04 05:49:00 -
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Quote: Siddy I really hope English isn't your first language.
It's not, and you shouldn't bash him for it. Or any others for that matter. It's more than likely english is their second language and they are youngsters :)
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syndic4te
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Posted - 2004.04.04 05:53:00 -
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ive never lost a ship till the day i asked my friend to move my scorp to a .5 system in solitude, dna attacked in a few systems below he tried to help and lost it. still kinda mad about that.  ---
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Myal Terego
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Posted - 2004.04.04 08:42:00 -
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1 scorpion 1 caracal 2 blackbirds 1 osprey and some unknown amount of frigs.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.04.04 09:13:00 -
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Quote: Siddy I really hope English isn't your first language.
For the last time - it isint!  -------------------------------------------
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2004.04.04 09:36:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Siddy I really hope English isn't your first language.
For the last time - it isint! 
siddy dont waste yer time on morons who have nothing better to do than pick on peoples grammer.
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Bozl1n
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Posted - 2004.04.04 13:14:00 -
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"On the note of your unfortunate loss, I am sorry that you lost your new ship, but at least you didn't lose your implants and you did get 50mil so it's not the worst outcome I can imagine. Thinking about the conflict, I can see a better way out of it but it would have required a few snappy, clever decisions that would probably be lost in the heat of the moment. Instead of begging for your life, you could have reasoned with him. If he had killed you, Concord would have come and killed him, correct? The main thing I'm thinking of is that you could have bought a heckload of time by telling him that your structure is too low and that the only thing holding the ship together is your skills so that if you leave it, it would explode. You could then have asked him to wait for a while so you can regenerate your ship enough that it won't explode when you leave and tell him that he has you webbed and you aren't exactly going anywhere. I'm sure he suspected you might have had friends in the system and may have rejected this as a stall for time, but he might have accepted it and waited for a few minutes. In that few minutes, you could have gotten 20mil from a friend or something."
Plz engauge brain b4 posting on the forum.
Thnx
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.04.04 18:01:00 -
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Uhm well... L3xCia
I'm sry you lost your ship and i know it stings but in all honesty...you got lucky.
I mean. Honerable pirates are becoming a rare thing and who can blaim them with all the **** you have to put up with. Its really not that easy to toll people and alot get frustrated and decide to shoot first and ask questions later...
Atleast you got 50 mil for your ship and didnt lose a clone and implants.
Originally by: cashman It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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L3xCia
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Posted - 2004.04.06 13:58:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Siddy I really hope English isn't your first language.
It's not, and you shouldn't bash him for it. Or any others for that matter. It's more than likely english is their second language and they are youngsters :)
i agree i hate when players make fun of others literature, its immature studys have shown that people like that or "bullys" are the ones who are not to intelligent and are most likely "not" to succeed in life.
so to make themselfs feel better they pick on the people who "will" most likley succeed in life and who they know are smarter than them. can u say jealous.
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L3xCia
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Posted - 2004.04.06 14:03:00 -
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Quote: 1 scorpion 1 caracal 2 blackbirds 1 osprey and some unknown amount of frigs.
I fear zarquon posting on this thread, it'll be a book :D cheers!
well includeing my BS heres the frigs i've lost.
1 Griffins to Concord 1 merlin to Gate guns 8 or 9 shuttles exploring 0.0 space(gate campers) 1 MegaThron to OmegaTron
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