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Andrue
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Federation Of Space Loonies
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Posted - 2008.02.14 07:54:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 14/02/2008 07:57:15
 Originally by: Verx Interis
Yes and yes.
Do we want that?
No and No.
Honestly, I would prefer they just dropped missions (except for the starting ones) to get all the agent-humpers to just quit. Less lag for us, less people sitting on loads of ISK docking whenever a war target in a frigate shows up.
..a lot less money for CCP. Developers having to be laid off. Cluster being dismantled. Game seen as a failure in the industry. Eve shuts down.
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Andrue
Amarr
Federation Of Space Loonies
Culture Shock Initiative
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Posted - 2008.02.14 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Novemb3r
I struggle to understand the mind set of hardcore mission runners. Not that I'm saying they shouldn't do it, just that I fail to see the point of grinding ISK against NPCs to afford a CNR or whatever so you can grind ISK against NPCs faster.
What's the point? Sure you end up with a great big pile of ISK. But then what? It just seems...
I find it sad that some people need to know that they have harmed another person in order to have fun. That people can get so excited about claiming 'sovereignty' over a collection of records in a database. That these same people so often can't accept another point of view and want to interfere and ruin the game for people who just don't think like them.
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Andrue
Amarr
Federation Of Space Loonies
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Posted - 2008.02.14 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 14/02/2008 12:03:56
Edited by: Andrue on 14/02/2008 12:03:00
Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: Co Mandor
Originally by: Andrue
That these same people so often can't accept another point of view and want to interfere and ruin the game for people who just don't think like them.
I think you'll find that statement applies to some people in all walks of life within eve....
Hmm. Though I'm curious about the "want to interfere and ruin" part
That's a reference to the poster wanting to see missions removed from the game. Surely you wouldn't suggest that he sees the impact on the PvE players as a 'side effect'? Although given his bizarre assertion that it would somehow reduce lag for him (presumably a non-mission runner) maybe he actually hasn't thought the consequences through.
Of course there's also PvE people with the same selfish and shortsighted attitude. We call them carebears.
It all goes to show that there's quite a few people with little or no understanding or consideration for other people's view point. Quelle surprise 
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Andrue
Amarr
Federation Of Space Loonies
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Posted - 2008.02.14 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 14/02/2008 14:55:13
Originally by: Seine
Originally by: Andrue
Of course there's also PvE people with the same selfish and shortsighted attitude. We call them carebears.
Carebear is a term used to define someone who does not like pvp, no more, no less. Making sweeping generalizations about the intentions of a group of people and then labeling them with nomenclature intented to seperate them, only serves to widen the divide that already exsists between PvPers and PvEers
I agree that's why I'm intrigued that your definition is more sweeping than mine. Worse still it seems to be based on a category of game play rather than the particular attitude of a player. IOW you label people based on where they play the game - I label them based on their actions.
My definition only includes a small number of PvE players (those that tend to come on here and whine). The majority of PvE players accept that Eve is a harsh place and have the good sense to minimise the risks. If/when they do get caught out they accept that sh!t happens and learn from their mistake.
In any case this is a discussion that's been had several times over the years probably in every MMORPG where the attitude difference crops up. I think that 'carebear' is a derogative term so I reserve it for people that I feel deserve it because of their attitude and actions. In fact my definition also allows PvP players to be carebears since some of them are just after the easy kill and whine everytime someone switches on their warp scrambler.
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