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Night Tripper
Es and Whizz
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Posted - 2008.02.14 11:07:00 -
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Something is wrong when you can't stop a nano ship getting back to a gate and jumping. It needs fixing. It would be a simple implementation, just give 2-5 seconds before MWD can be used after decloaking.
Even doing our own tests, we got a recon's scan resolution up to xxxx and are still unable to catch a ship using this. I honestly believe it should be considered an exploit.
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Puupuu
Latrocinium
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Posted - 2008.02.14 11:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Night Tripper
Something is wrong when you can't stop a nano ship getting back to a gate and jumping.
I don't get it. Seems to be working as intended? Nanoships go fast.
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El Kaposo
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Posted - 2008.02.14 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Night Tripper
just give 2-5 seconds before MWD can be used after decloaking.
good idea.
might also be good to not allow a ship with an active mwd to cloak. these two changes will stop a lot of risk vs reward imbalances.
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Darkest Desire
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Posted - 2008.02.14 12:07:00 -
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Quit whining.
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WowZilla
The Leeroy Jenkins Project
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Posted - 2008.02.14 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Night Tripper
Something is wrong when you can't stop a nano ship getting back to a gate and jumping. It needs fixing. It would be a simple implementation, just give 2-5 seconds before MWD can be used after decloaking.
Even doing our own tests, we got a recon's scan resolution up to xxxx and are still unable to catch a ship using this. I honestly believe it should be considered an exploit.
I suggest you follow the train of thought that should I, in my interceptor for example, jump into a 20man gate camp I should under no circumstances be given a chance to escape?
running back to the gate is and escapae and a retreat, the game is better with it.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.02.14 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: WowZilla
I suggest you follow the train of thought that should I, in my interceptor for example, jump into a 20man gate camp I should under no circumstances be given a chance to escape?
running back to the gate is and escapae and a retreat, the game is better with it.
Yes, jumping into a camp should instantly produce a killmail and drop loot 
At any rate, learn to camp both sides of the gate if ships MWD-ing back are such a huge problem. 
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Night Tripper
Es and Whizz
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Posted - 2008.02.14 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: WowZilla
Originally by: Night Tripper
Something is wrong when you can't stop a nano ship getting back to a gate and jumping. It needs fixing. It would be a simple implementation, just give 2-5 seconds before MWD can be used after decloaking.
Even doing our own tests, we got a recon's scan resolution up to xxxx and are still unable to catch a ship using this. I honestly believe it should be considered an exploit.
I suggest you follow the train of thought that should I, in my interceptor for example, jump into a 20man gate camp I should under no circumstances be given a chance to escape?
running back to the gate is and escapae and a retreat, the game is better with it.
absolutely, why should one sole pilot be able to get past a 20 man gate camp, you should be bringing scouts and/or escorts before you jump in. 
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Galen Naranek
Gallente
Royal Navy Industries
CryoGenesis Mining Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.14 13:19:00 -
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Sung to the tune of "Do you hear the people sing?" from Les Miserables
(with apologies to the original lyricist...)
Do you hear the pirates whine?
Singing the song of angry boys
who have just been told by Mommy
that they must pick up their toys!
When the nanophoons run off
and all the cloaking ravens fly
"It is unfair!" they scream,
"To our uberness they must die!"
Will you join in our gate camp?
We gank two hundred shuttles a day!
Just beyond this next stargate
there is a ship - our rightful prey
But he's using the darned game mechanics to get clean away!
Do you hear the gankers whinge?
Lost in their self-important play
"Nerf the speed, the cloak, the tank!" they cry
When targets get away
When the carebear runs and hides
Or the pirate takes a fall
You will hear them cry
"CCP you must nerf them all!"
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Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.02.14 13:53:00 -
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Pirate or no pirate, this thread fails.
Perhaps you should put a web or two on that humongous-scan-res recon of yours?
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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Requiescat
True Foundation
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.02.14 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
Pirate or no pirate, this thread fails.
Perhaps you should put a web or two on that humongous-scan-res recon of yours?
It's not about webbing, it's about the ship cloaking while on its way to the gate so it's not lockable
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Dianeces
Minmatar
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2008.02.14 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Requiescat
Originally by: Ki An
Pirate or no pirate, this thread fails.
Perhaps you should put a web or two on that humongous-scan-res recon of yours?
It's not about webbing, it's about the ship cloaking while on its way to the gate so it's not lockable
Maybe you should read the OP again. :)
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Wild Rho
Amarr
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.02.14 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Night Tripper
Originally by: WowZilla
Originally by: Night Tripper
Something is wrong when you can't stop a nano ship getting back to a gate and jumping. It needs fixing. It would be a simple implementation, just give 2-5 seconds before MWD can be used after decloaking.
Even doing our own tests, we got a recon's scan resolution up to xxxx and are still unable to catch a ship using this. I honestly believe it should be considered an exploit.
I suggest you follow the train of thought that should I, in my interceptor for example, jump into a 20man gate camp I should under no circumstances be given a chance to escape?
running back to the gate is and escapae and a retreat, the game is better with it.
absolutely, why should one sole pilot be able to get past a 20 man gate camp, you should be bringing scouts and/or escorts before you jump in.
I'd argue the point that he didn't actually get past the camp, he may not have been killed but it prevented him from getting wherever he was heading by that route.
You bring scouts and escorts when you think you're flying something high value that isn't fast or evasive enough to have a good chance of escaping danger.
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Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Snake Assault
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Posted - 2008.02.14 15:34:00 -
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... is this a warm-up thread for yet another nano whine?
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sethfon
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Posted - 2008.02.14 16:27:00 -
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Last night i got away in my Drake! I warp in to gate see there is a camp. Wait they lock they fire i set there for a few of course it is a passive tank drake what other is there. Get bore with there a temp to kill me and jump through to freedom! Now i am sure they are all saying this needs to be fix warping to 0 and jumping to freedom. Well same thing the op is saying all lame gate camper say the same thing! Get real the game is fine just use the gifts that are there and stop winning that something like speed is unfair to you poor gate campers! I have used speed to get away also Phoon Fleet stabber so on. I even can excape the dreaded concord with speed witch i have done.
So let just use the game the way it is intended and stop winning. OH i have done gate camps too and the mean old carebears got away.
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sethfon
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Posted - 2008.02.14 16:45:00 -
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Ps: Want cheese with that wine!
Also us Tactical advantage when camping stop, blobbing the gate use a spear and have your fast ships in the spear waiting for the pray. Us the game, cloak around the gate in a spear fast locking boats and grab the pray when they come throught. Stop thinking that the only way to fight is in a blob try to think and use things the game gives you instead of thinking every ship that comes to the gate is yours, and they should roll over and die because your to lazy to think of something new.
Oh just hate wine post! Sorry I want changes that we really need not just because someone dose not want to think of anything but what has always been done.
Ps: i will stop now and move on.
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Night Tripper
Es and Whizz
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Posted - 2008.02.14 17:54:00 -
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Looks like someone has already posted a similar, logical, reasonable and non whining post already like this "MWD trick. Cloak, align, insta-warp.". now there's a coincidence.
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Slez
Caldari
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2008.02.17 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Requiescat
Originally by: Ki An
Pirate or no pirate, this thread fails.
Perhaps you should put a web or two on that humongous-scan-res recon of yours?
It's not about webbing, it's about the ship cloaking while on its way to the gate so it's not lockable
So you're whining about the cloaking device working as intended?
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Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.02.17 19:37:00 -
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I think you are doing it wrong. We have used BC's with web and almost caught 6k/s Vegas heading back to the gates, multiple times in fact. If we would have had a minnie recon, we would have caught him.
Delay for MWD activation after decloaking would break much more than it would fix.
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AnarkiTheStorm
Finis Lumen
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Posted - 2008.02.17 19:38:00 -
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try ramming them as they are re-aproaching the gate. Ive bumped hacs and Hics of the gate many times
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Tellenta
Gallente
White-Noise
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Posted - 2008.02.17 19:45:00 -
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In exchange for a nano/cloak nerf make concord show up at a random timer killing everyone turning lowsec into a giant lulfest that no one wants to go to at all! That would so rock
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
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Posted - 2008.02.17 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Zaerlorth Maelkor on 17/02/2008 19:51:53
Waaa! my I.W.I.N. button is broken! 
CCP please fix it! Waaaah!
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.02.17 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Night Tripper
Something is wrong when you can't stop a nano ship getting back to a gate and jumping. It needs fixing. It would be a simple implementation, just give 2-5 seconds before MWD can be used after decloaking.
Even doing our own tests, we got a recon's scan resolution up to xxxx and are still unable to catch a ship using this. I honestly believe it should be considered an exploit.
How are you supposed to smuggle drugs if you can't outrun the feds?
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Oregon sinful
The Ankou
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.02.17 20:38:00 -
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OP> OMG we couldn't kill him because he used an in game tactic! I cannot believe he was smarter than we are!
ME> STFU NOOB and learn that there are better ways to play this game than sitting on a gatecamp all day.
I do camp. not as much anymore but it used to be one of the only things i did... When I'm sitting on a gate camp I assume every ship has a cloak on before it jumps into me, therefore I have my TACTICAL OVERLAY on and soon as they decloak I approach and target. It kinda fills a warm place in my heart when they cloak because I have a line (via tactical overlay) pointing straight to their last known position and i'll be dammed when i fail to find a ship that cloaks that's not got a specific cloaking role int the game (i.e. recons, Sb, Cov ops.)
Rare is the times that someone jumps into my camp, cloaks and gets away.
Learn how to counter it in game ffs, quit crying to the rest of us.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.17 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Night Tripper
Something is wrong when you can't stop a nano ship getting back to a gate and jumping. It needs fixing. It would be a simple implementation, just give 2-5 seconds before MWD can be used after decloaking.
Even doing our own tests, we got a recon's scan resolution up to xxxx and are still unable to catch a ship using this. I honestly believe it should be considered an exploit.
I think everyone missed the point that you were trolling the other thread...
ZOMG NOOOOO!!1 CCP please fix MWD'ing back to the gate 
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Originally by: Praxis1452
you win eve
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Psyco Groupie
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.02.17 22:01:00 -
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omg cry cry the fast ships are TOO fast. cry cry cry
p.s I hate you
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Ur235
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.02.17 22:44:00 -
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Lol you guys are pathetic tbh.
I think we shud all have a chance of survival against a gatecamp. Just quit whining and kill more and tell me where you guys camp so i can gatecrash you
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wide
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.17 23:49:00 -
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Edited by: wide on 17/02/2008 23:49:32
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Nebuchadnezzar I
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.02.18 00:17:00 -
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This whine is getting ******* old.
1) it isnt 100%. People get lagged by the blob, they bump off gate if they press it at the wrong time, they forget about session timer etc.
2) They run back into WHERE they came from, IE the camp blocked their way. Stop with your freaking "INSTA LOOT PAYMENT WHEN JUMPING INTO CAMP" bull****.
3) yes it is annoying (i like to camp) but no its not imbalanced at all, has to be room for the solo pilot in eve - and not "always" let the blob win.
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Leyalor Esperence
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2008.02.18 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Night Tripper
Looks like someone has already posted a similar, logical, reasonable and non whining post already like this "MWD trick. Cloak, align, insta-warp.". now there's a coincidence.
Alt character. You're probably the same guy trolling our other thread who got moderated. Stop posting trash.
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Bodhisattvas
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.18 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Night Tripper
Something is wrong when you can't stop a nano ship getting back to a gate and jumping. It needs fixing. It would be a simple implementation, just give 2-5 seconds before MWD can be used after decloaking.
Even doing our own tests, we got a recon's scan resolution up to xxxx and are still unable to catch a ship using this. I honestly believe it should be considered an exploit.
I honestly believe your crap at gate camping.
Why post and in turn admitting the fact in forums ?
It takes mighty fine clicky clicky skills to get back
to gate in such a situation.
If your in a nano ship its overkill to have to
cloak and mwd back to gate in the first place but
hey hoo what ever yanks ya chain.
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