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Fifi LeFume
Griefers Inc. Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.15 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rathverg Nice harb setup Lamiah. My question is this would a medium NewtII fitt in the last high?
I dont see why you're so insistant on fitting a neut at all on the harb. Your setup in the OP is horrible. Im pretty sure the 'hac's you killed were moronic pilots. I think any other bc will just about take yours down. You're running hardners, beams, and a bloody neut, all on one injector. Good luck killing any competent pilot buddy
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Rathverg
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.02.15 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Fifi LeFume
Originally by: Rathverg Nice harb setup Lamiah. My question is this would a medium NewtII fitt in the last high?
I dont see why you're so insistant on fitting a neut at all on the harb. Your setup in the OP is horrible. Im pretty sure the 'hac's you killed were moronic pilots. I think any other bc will just about take yours down. You're running hardners, beams, and a bloody neut, all on one injector. Good luck killing any competent pilot buddy
Take advice from two noobs lol.... Yes these setup's are pretty good and i will use pulses yes but you guys are hyped up about a damn question i have asked plain and simple I know more about setup's then both of you Fifi, and the guy from blood. Evedintly you dont see the reason. The reason is the Newt gives you an advantage in SOLO pvp It Prevents a person from tanking you constantly Because Frankly Put you need all Advantage you can get in this game Simple as that
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Julius Romanus
Blood Corsair's Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.15 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rathverg
Originally by: Fifi LeFume
Originally by: Rathverg Nice harb setup Lamiah. My question is this would a medium NewtII fitt in the last high?
I dont see why you're so insistant on fitting a neut at all on the harb. Your setup in the OP is horrible. Im pretty sure the 'hac's you killed were moronic pilots. I think any other bc will just about take yours down. You're running hardners, beams, and a bloody neut, all on one injector. Good luck killing any competent pilot buddy
Take advice from two noobs lol.... Yes these setup's are pretty good and i will use pulses yes but you guys are hyped up about a damn question i have asked plain and simple I know more about setup's then both of you Fifi, and the guy from blood. Evedintly you dont see the reason. The reason is the Newt gives you an advantage in SOLO pvp It Prevents a person from tanking you constantly Because Frankly Put you need all Advantage you can get in this game Simple as that
I didnt miss that you fit a neut on your harb. It just doesnt make up for any of your massive fitting errors. Anyway noob, you refuse accept the truth and thats your choice, I'm done with you.
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Rathverg
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.02.15 20:38:00 -
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Julius your the damn Noob i could whoop your but in a pvp fight and thats a fact. There Are no Massive fitting errors with my setup you Slouch Just better hope i dont find you because your ship will be going bye bye
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.15 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rathverg Julius your the damn Noob i could whoop your but in a pvp fight and thats a fact. There Are no Massive fitting errors with my setup you Slouch Just better hope i dont find you because your ship will be going bye bye
Protip: a single neut doesn't help that much. A solid HAC will wtfpwn you anyway, and a single neut isn't really bothersome to BCs and larger. Everything has injectors, anyway, and you're draining your own cap too.
Can you get onto the test server? I'd be happy to throw any number of harbingers against that thing. __________________________________
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Encalderante
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Posted - 2008.02.15 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Wu Jiun I've once killed an armageddon in an omen. However that doesn't imply my Omen fit was good but that the guy had no idea what he was doing. Indeed i remember he had long range weapons also. Howitzers though maybe a bit more crazy than beams really.
Heh, I think that was me you killed.
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Rathverg
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.02.15 22:38:00 -
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Eri you wernt on test.... All i know is my Harb Proved it self again and again against pirats and other pvpers
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Barasu
Minmatar Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2008.02.16 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ararius Nano it
It's the only way to be sure
I did and your rifter was to powerful!
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.16 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rathverg Eri you wernt on test.... All i know is my Harb Proved it self again and again against pirats and other pvpers
Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean right now. I'll be on in ~14-16 hours from now - I'll look for you :) __________________________________
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grace amarr
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.16 02:43:00 -
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well, checked the post,
and found some fun/nice fit except the OP's.
Thanks for guys posting here, and that's the only advantage brought by the OP.
cheers
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Darth Decon
Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:25:00 -
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hmmm bump
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0raven0
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Rathverg Solo PVP harb Setup
High: x6 Focused Medium Beam Laser II w/Amarr Navy Multifreaks x1 Medium Nosferatu II x1 Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Mid: x1 Medium Electorchemical Capasitor Booster I x1 X5 Prototype I Engine Elivator x1 10MN AB II x1 Warp Disruptor II
Low: x1 Medium Armor Rep II x3 N-type hardners Kenetic, Thermic, and Exsplosive x1 Refuge Adaptive Nano Plating x1 Damage Control II
Drone: x5 Hammerhead's II or x5 Valkyrie II's (to spread damage)
This setup does a little less dps then a pulse setup but put it this way with a pulse setup you can do more dps but he can also active tank with this setup he could not really tank due to the lack of cap.... This setup Deals 386 DPS and tanks 135 dps have fun with it....
This setup really sucks to be honest. Beams will give crap DPS and with those beams its not great range either. Seriously using multis with that setup you will have about 5km farther range with top skills then you would have had with FMP II. 99% of all setups involve an MWD these days which yours doesn't so that 5km will take about 5 seconds for someone to get in range. Also if your setting up beams because you want range whats the point of fitting a web? Either lose the web and fit something useful for a beam setup or lose the beams.
Next you have only fit 1 medium rep???? There are two viable tanks setups, 2 reps, or 1 rep and a 1600mm plate buffer tank. You have neither and will die very very fast.
And please don't say anything about "Well you don't have harbinger experience" as I only fly amarr, have multiple harbingers setup for pvp that i fly daily and have hundreds and hundreds of kills using the harbinger that I can prove with killboards. My harb uses an mwd as most ships do. It does over 500 DPS and it will eat your setup in seconds. ------
Quote: tuxford: AT LEAST ITS SPEELED CORRECTLY tuxford: spelled* Oveur: rofl
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Rathverg
Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:51:00 -
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Well you come and kill me in my harb in the game then we will see who wil be right and who will be wrong oh and you better pack a lunch 0raven0
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Gypsio III
Darkness Inc. Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.20 14:55:00 -
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Quote: Solo PVP harb Setup
High: x6 Focused Medium Beam Laser II w/Amarr Navy Multifreaks x1 Medium Nosferatu II x1 Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Mid: x1 Medium Electorchemical Capasitor Booster I x1 X5 Prototype I Engine Elivator x1 10MN AB II x1 Warp Disruptor II
Low: x1 Medium Armor Rep II x3 N-type hardners Kenetic, Thermic, and Exsplosive x1 Refuge Adaptive Nano Plating x1 Damage Control II
Drone: x5 Hammerhead's II or x5 Valkyrie II's (to spread damage)
This setup Deals 386 DPS and tanks 135 dps have fun with it....
Those numbers are awful. Just compare it to the standard solo Drake fit, which beats it easily on speed, gank and tank.
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Darth Decon
Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Darth Decon on 20/02/2008 15:11:19 most people on this post have no clue what they are saying lol And pluse Rathverg has more solo killes then both you Gypsio III and 0raven0 and guess what he uses that setup you two noobs call horible
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Gypsio III
Darkness Inc. Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:26:00 -
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Darth, after reading your Vulture thread, I'm disinclined to take any advice from you on ship fittings. And that is an awful Harbinger fit, it really is as simple as that.
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Darth Decon
Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:28:00 -
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Oh and you would know that for a fact right you know nothing man you really dont hey i got a idea for you Face his harb and see if you win if not shut it.....
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Decon Oh and you would know that for a fact right you know nothing man you really dont hey i got a idea for you Face his harb and see if you win if not shut it.....
I have, in fact, already put up a locator agent for him and will be paying him a visit in the near future. __________________________________
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Rathverg
Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Darth Decon Oh and you would know that for a fact right you know nothing man you really dont hey i got a idea for you Face his harb and see if you win if not shut it.....
I have, in fact, already put up a locator agent for him and will be paying him a visit in the near future.
Ill be waiting
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Cpt Branko
Surge. Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 20/02/2008 15:39:55
Originally by: Rathverg Well there is only 1 way to find out isnt there
Come to Sujarento and give me a call, and I'll show you why beams + no buffer is a bad idea, alright? 
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rathverg
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Darth Decon Oh and you would know that for a fact right you know nothing man you really dont hey i got a idea for you Face his harb and see if you win if not shut it.....
I have, in fact, already put up a locator agent for him and will be paying him a visit in the near future.
Ill be waiting
You're not way the hell out in 0.0 are you? :P __________________________________
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Gypsio III
Darkness Inc. Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:42:00 -
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In the unlikely event that you win the previous fights, make your next stop Ishomilken. Or the test server if you prefer.
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Rathverg
Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:06:00 -
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Why what make you say that?
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Gypsio III
Darkness Inc. Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:20:00 -
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I mentioned the test server in case you were concerned that a 1v1 wouldn't be honoured, or that Ishomilken was too far away, or too difficult to get to.
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Rathverg
Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:23:00 -
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ill meet you there on test after 5 or 6pm CST Gypsio III but i was talking to Eri About the last post :P
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Gypsio III
Darkness Inc. Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:36:00 -
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Quote: ill meet you there on test after 5 or 6pm CST Gypsio III
So that's 11pm or 12am EVE time, correct? That suits me well. Better make it FD-MLJ system though, that's the standard one with all the arenas in etc, and the seeded market.
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Rathverg
Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Quote: ill meet you there on test after 5 or 6pm CST Gypsio III
So that's 11pm or 12am EVE time, correct? That suits me well. Better make it FD-MLJ system though, that's the standard one with all the arenas in etc, and the seeded market.
Correct, I wont be on eve till that time, im on right now but etting things done while im afk so ill probly see you on test then.....
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Viashivan
Dark Centuri Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.20 17:25:00 -
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Edited by: Viashivan on 20/02/2008 17:27:02 I fly Harb's quiet regularly and form my point of view OP's setup is bad for at least two reasons.
First of all no MWD! If MWD's wouldn't be mandatory Armarr wouldn't have such fitting/cap/"and-so-on" problems. But with the current game mechanics an MWD is absolutely nessesary. The reasons are kown and I will not explain them in detail (escape BS; close in to get in webrange [Will you try that with an AB??];etc.) Especially since overheating is another reason for an MWD.
Secondly the combination of beams with nos/neut is contradicting. You were asking for a solo setup. Well you can scram up to 24km and web to 10km. Neut/NOS to 12,Xkm. And you decided to do use beams (amarr long range turret)? With close range multies on beams you will only do slightly more damage that you would do with scorch on pulses... Wich then will shoot further... That is neither logical nor surprising.
Either you have someone else tackle for you and you snipe, in that case you might want to use tracking cpu/enhancers and more heat sinks... or a Zealot. Or if you want to solo, you want an MWD, close in, web and nos/neut him. For that aim pulses are much better.
Thus when someone else is reading this topic and came thus far: The original setup of the original poster isn't good or effective. Much better fittings are the ones from Ashira Twilight or Lamiah. Both posted in this thread.
Via
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0raven0
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.20 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Decon Edited by: Darth Decon on 20/02/2008 15:11:19 most people on this post have no clue what they are saying lol And pluse Rathverg has more solo killes then both you Gypsio III and 0raven0 and guess what he uses that setup you two noobs call horible
Have any proof? I know bruce keeps their killboard private but I also know that they are allowed to provide screenshots of statistical data as long as it doesn't show ship fittings. ------
Quote: tuxford: AT LEAST ITS SPEELED CORRECTLY tuxford: spelled* Oveur: rofl
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Terianna Eri on 20/02/2008 19:22:19
Originally by: Rathverg ill meet you there on test after 5 or 6pm CST Gypsio III but i was talking to Eri About the last post :P
I was making sure you're not way out in 0.0 because I have better things to do than fly an armor-rigged battlecruiser through many, many hostile jumps.
Edit: Well you're 37 jumps away from me so f that I'll be on Sisi in a few hours too; hope to see you there :) __________________________________
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