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Ozstar
Naughty 40
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 16:03:00 -
[331]
 Originally by: Arthin Mutin
Tris killboard includes rigs and etc into the isk valuations so those figures are with the 50mill poly rigs included
QFT.
Our killboard calculates the value of rigs lost.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 16:04:00 -
[332]
Originally by: MAXSuicide
someone didnt seem to get the sarcasm
? Obviously not.
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.02 16:16:00 -
[333]
Originally by: Ozstar
Originally by: Arthin Mutin
Tris killboard includes rigs and etc into the isk valuations so those figures are with the 50mill poly rigs included
QFT.
Our killboard calculates the value of rigs lost.
I'm afraid it doesn't, it may put them on the individual ship loss but it doesn't put them on campaign losses and related kills, it uses the ships base value. This works both ways however, so although your losses will be much higher, so will our losses. Although our fits on average aren't as expensive as yours, I mean check out our Wyvern 
Proof: Not a killboard link don't nerf it
Click on the individual losses, then compare them to total taken.
Reguardless isk losses mean nothing really, all it does is maybe put the pilot that lost the ship out for a while, but to think it stops a whole alliance participating is silly.
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Javus Talrath
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Posted - 2008.03.02 16:59:00 -
[334]
Originally by: Arthin Mutin
Originally by: Ridjeck Thome
Originally by: Ozstar
Edited by: Ozstar on 02/03/2008 14:56:58
Ill post the stats from our killboard campaign and let people draw their own conclusions.
[epeen stuff here]
but what about those poor little Polycarbs? - are we winning on that score?
Tris killboard includes rigs and etc into the isk valuations so those figures are with the 50mill poly rigs included
Hellow mr Vizam.
In the individual mails, but it conveniently loses them on the totals.
It's funny to watch alliances that beat their chests about accurate killboards actually have inaccurate killboards. I wonder how much you'd be losing by if you actually counted the polycarbs in the totals. :o
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Javus Talrath
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:01:00 -
[335]
Originally by: Ozstar
Ill post the stats from our killboard campaign and let people draw their own conclusions.
KILLS / LOSSES
Assault frigate 73 14
Battlecruiser 284 216
Battleship 497 124
Black Ops 0 0
Cap. Industrial 0 0
Capsule 776 164
Carrier 21 1
Command ship 44 16
Covert ops 145 27
Cruiser 187 16
Destroyer 19 1
Dreadnought 4 0
Electronic Attack Ship 40 11
Exhumer 11 0
Freighter 2 0
Frigate 118 4
Heavy assault 145 157
Heavy Interdictor 14 13
Industrial 78 2
Interceptor 344 87
Interdictor 36 45
Logistics 13 7
Mining barge 6 1
Mothership 1 0
Recon ship 129 96
Transport 7 0
I too can higlight stats !!!
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Javus Talrath
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:02:00 -
[336]
Note 157 hacs worth of polycarbs costs more than a Mothership. 
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Ozstar
Naughty 40
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:09:00 -
[337]
Originally by: Dez Affinity
I'm afraid it doesn't, it may put them on the individual ship loss but it doesn't put them on campaign losses and related kills, it uses the ships base value. This works both ways however, so although your losses will be much higher, so will our losses. Although our fits on average aren't as expensive as yours, I mean check out our Wyvern
I stand corrected, i think both alliances can take significant ISK losses before it impacts what they can field.
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Ozstar
Naughty 40
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:11:00 -
[338]
Originally by: Javus Talrath
Note 157 hacs worth of polycarbs costs more than a Mothership.
this proves you wrong
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TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:12:00 -
[339]
Edited by: TeufelsBeitrag on 02/03/2008 17:12:13
You totally deserve the three pages of killboard discussion that will come now, for bringing up killboard stats Ozstar.
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Arthin Mutin
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:15:00 -
[340]
I the newly appointed Mr Vizam Stand corrected
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:20:00 -
[341]
GUYS MY K/D RATIO! LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!
No offense to tri but i hate guys like this. FFS its a video game people play to have fun. Some times you win sometimes you lose but aslong as your having fun, thats all that mattars. Coming on here stroking your epeen makes you look like a fool.
(for the record i have an excelent k/d ratio but i dont come on here posting stats)
STFU and have fun.
I driks lots
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Jogyn
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:37:00 -
[342]
Edited by: Jogyn on 02/03/2008 17:37:50
Originally by: dastommy79
GUYS MY K/D RATIO! LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!
No offense to tri but i hate guys like this. FFS its a video game people play to have fun. Some times you win sometimes you lose but aslong as your having fun, thats all that mattars. Coming on here stroking your epeen makes you look like a fool.
(for the record i have an excelent k/d ratio but i dont come on here posting stats)
STFU and have fun.
MAXSuicide was asking who was winning, and since we aint fighting over systems and stations atm then K/D ratio is actually quite a good way to show who is winning most of the fights and thats why Ozstar posted the stats.
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TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.02 18:14:00 -
[343]
K/D stats dont show who is winning. They show who killed more ships and they are awesome for e-peen waving, thats all.
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marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.03.02 18:25:00 -
[344]
Edited by: marakor on 02/03/2008 18:28:36
Originally by: TeufelsBeitrag
K/D stats dont show who is winning. They show who killed more ships and they are awesome for e-peen waving, thats all.
K/D stats under certain circumstances (like fighting heavily outnumbered) are a measure of pvp skill, team work and winning, unless you are fighting for space then all you need is too blob spam.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 18:39:00 -
[345]
Well for the last 3 pages you've been whining about mails posted or not. Now you complain that the subject of kills has been continued?
You're all getting fights arn't you? Nobody is loosing any system. Whats the problem?
I certainly wont be posting in here again, i suggest you let this stupid thread die.
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Ozstar
Naughty 40
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 18:41:00 -
[346]
Originally by: TeufelsBeitrag
You totally deserve the three pages of killboard discussion that will come now, for bringing up killboard stats Ozstar.
Someone asked how this war was going and i posted the killboard statistics - nothing more, nothing less. 
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TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.02 18:42:00 -
[347]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Well for the last 3 pages you've been whining about mails posted or not. Now you complain that the subject of kills has been continued?
You're all getting fights arn't you? Nobody is loosing any system. Whats the problem?
I certainly wont be posting in here again, i suggest you let this stupid thread die.
Next time you may want to read the thread you reply to.
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TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.02 18:49:00 -
[348]
Originally by: Ozstar
Originally by: TeufelsBeitrag
You totally deserve the three pages of killboard discussion that will come now, for bringing up killboard stats Ozstar.
Someone asked how this war was going and i posted the killboard statistics - nothing more, nothing less.
Its cool, I am just the obligatory guy that says how they dont mean much. Personally I like the carrier k/d ratio.
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.03.02 18:59:00 -
[349]
Edited by: MAXSuicide on 02/03/2008 19:00:04
Originally by: TeufelsBeitrag
K/D stats dont show who is winning. They show who killed more ships and they are awesome for e-peen waving, thats all.
so in the absence of pos warfare ,taking systems and so forth how would u measure success?
Originally by: Jogyn
Edited by: Jogyn on 02/03/2008 17:37:50
Originally by: dastommy79
GUYS MY K/D RATIO! LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!
No offense to tri but i hate guys like this. FFS its a video game people play to have fun. Some times you win sometimes you lose but aslong as your having fun, thats all that mattars. Coming on here stroking your epeen makes you look like a fool.
(for the record i have an excelent k/d ratio but i dont come on here posting stats)
STFU and have fun.
MAXSuicide was asking who was winning, and since we aint fighting over systems and stations atm then K/D ratio is actually quite a good way to show who is winning most of the fights and thats why Ozstar posted the stats.
please, call me max 
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TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.02 19:09:00 -
[350]
Originally by: MAXSuicide
so in the absence of pos warfare ,taking systems and so forth how would u measure success?
For measuring succes in killing ships its good. But you asked who was winning. If you meant "winning the race for an awesome k/d ratio" i apologise, but I thought you talked about the war. And as long as the space isnt contested (I think tri killed our cynojammer, damn you tri) it doesnt mean much. Thats to much words for me, please let me post one liners again. =(
You have the best alliance name btw.
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.03.02 19:26:00 -
[351]
Originally by: TeufelsBeitrag
Originally by: MAXSuicide
so in the absence of pos warfare ,taking systems and so forth how would u measure success?
For measuring succes in killing ships its good. But you asked who was winning.
yes so as i said, in the absence of pos warfare how do u measure 'winning' ;) (ill use this term instead of success then..)
Originally by: TeufelsBeitrag
You have the best alliance name btw.
We know ;)
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TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.02 19:49:00 -
[352]
Originally by: MAXSuicide
yes so as i said, in the absence of pos warfare how do u measure 'winning' ;) (ill use this term instead of success then..)
Winning the war? One side stops fighting because the other one is too dominant. There is no other real way of telling who won, if you fight for nothing. There are alot of prominent examples for the fact that k/d doesnt mean much for winning a war.
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Lowa
Gallente
North Star Networks
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 20:14:00 -
[353]
Bad K/D! BAD!
Originally by: MAXSuicide
so in the absence of pos warfare ,taking systems and so forth how would u measure success?
Max my dear, may I suggest this formula:
Number of fights * Number of pretty explosions / number of pilots involved = The Fun Factor.
No go and make daddy a gank trance video. <3
/Lowa
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Jogyn
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 20:49:00 -
[354]
I just managed to delete my last post, so Im to lazy to make a detailed one again.
After the big fight in BWF over a month ago when tri had a roadkill mom tackled but then withdrew I dont think we have lost a single big fleetfight.
Notice that im speaking about big fleetfights, I dont count dropping 80 ppl on a 15 man gatecamp killing 1 or 2 of them a big fleetfight neither do i call 10 vagabonds killing 15 drakes/raven gangs fleetfights.
I spend way to much time on eve atm, so Ive been in most major engagements and we have come out on top on all of the ones ive been involved in.
During EU primetime (1900 eve time and such) we have daily fleetfights vs roadkill + friends and around 00.00 > evetime the timezone diffrences kick in and we simply cant match their numbers so after midnight there is rarely any real fighting going at all.
But to answer your question Max I would say we are winning, we are killing more then we are loosing in ships and in isk, we are winning the battles and we have killed all roadkill/smash posses in deklein and are now camping one of their outpost systems pretty much all the time during EU time.
Sorry if this is the 4th time i post this, forums are acting really weird today >_<
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.03.02 20:53:00 -
[355]
Originally by: Lowa
Bad K/D! BAD!
Originally by: MAXSuicide
so in the absence of pos warfare ,taking systems and so forth how would u measure success?
Max my dear, may I suggest this formula:
Number of fights * Number of pretty explosions / number of pilots involved = The Fun Factor.
No go and make daddy a gank trance video. <3
/Lowa
i dont have any footage really.. i did have a fight 5mins ago when moving about when some unfortunate ex-rkk low sec pirates attempted to kill me :'( but i forgot to fraps their failure.
havent played much since May.
Laggage bad in all these fights?
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Jogyn
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 21:10:00 -
[356]
Mostly not much lagg, but then again its rarely more then 160 people fighting at the same time.
If the fight is at a pos or if there is lots of fighters deployed its a diffrent story though.
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Ozstar
Naughty 40
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 23:39:00 -
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decent fight tonight, kill/loss mails still being posted.
RK held the field, gf all involved.
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Shaitis
Caldari
Four Rings
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.02 23:45:00 -
[358]
Yeah it was FUN FUN FUN, shame such lag.
"What is funnier ? 20 Matari slaves pinned to one tree or 1 Matari slave pinned to 20 trees ?" |
jerrard iceni
Knights of Chaos
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 23:51:00 -
[359]
yep was a good fight, heavy losses to both sides. the lag sucked bad tho.
gf tri and co.
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USN CVN72
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.02 23:59:00 -
[360]
Ding Ding USN Arriving,
Interesting engagement in bwf tonight. TRI came to fight and RK stood ground and defended. Both sides took losses gf to all that was involved and we look forward to a new week. 
Ding Ding USN Departing.
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