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Xsag Caldari InterGalactic Dominion Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.15 12:04:00 - [1] To the best of my knowledge the only SOLID caldari pvp ship seems to be the crow, ive tried a few other ships which either ended in a pod or in a near pod experience, these include cara, ferox and drake. Does anyone use caldari for solo pvp and if so what ships do u use and more importantly what setup ~n00b of all trades~ ~if im posting on here its cos im in work~ ~Now with a face!~
NoNah Tenth Legion Holdings Tenth Legion	Posted - 2008.02.15 12:07:00 - [2] ALL solo ships tend to end their career in a pod. All. With that said, the drake can do fairly well, but in the age of nano the nanocerb is among the most popular. The beagle can do it's job, but... hardly the strongest in class due to the problems with 24km scramranges. Kestrel can be amazing. All-in-all, the caldari are quite weak in the solo-compartment. The 4nos/4torp rokh did use to work, but havnt seen it or tried it in a very long time. Postcount: 999837
Xsag Caldari InterGalactic Dominion Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.15 12:11:00 - [3] Originally by: NoNah ALL solo ships tend to end their career in a pod. All. With that said, the drake can do fairly well, but in the age of nano the nanocerb is among the most popular. The beagle can do it's job, but... hardly the strongest in class due to the problems with 24km scramranges. Kestrel can be amazing. All-in-all, the caldari are quite weak in the solo-compartment. The 4nos/4torp rokh did use to work, but havnt seen it or tried it in a very long time. kestrel eh...you fitting that with rocket or missile launchers. ive tried the drake the problem with the drake is its dps is ** poor (if u want a decent tank).... ~n00b of all trades~ ~if im posting on here its cos im in work~ ~Now with a face!~**
Waxau The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.15 12:24:00 - [4] Edited by: Waxau on 15/02/2008 12:24:04 A number of caldari ships CAN solo - Difference is, that they cant do it aswell as the other races. These ships are: Kestrel, Manticore, Harpy, Crow, Cerb, Rook, Eagle, Vulture, Nighthawk, Onyx, Raven, and Rokh. Any other ships tend to either have: A. Too few mid slots for tank + tackle (Take the hawk for example) or; B. Do too little damage. -The Kestrel is a nice easy fun ship. Mainly a kamikaze ship. -The manti is far different. For this, fit locking range damps + scripts, and a point. Many ships you can damp to below 20km, and such are easy to 'tank'. However, lack speed and a web. -Harpy can snipe, simple as that. Can sit at 100km and take pot shots. Sometimes works, sometimes doesnt. Have to rely on you popping them before the warp tho, or that theyre ********. -Crow is one of the best ceptors. Can get a rather nice topspeed, and with missiles not being affected by transversal, you can hit at 24km with no problem, and still have a point on them. Clear of nos, most neuts, and most webs. -Rook ISNT a good soloer. However, it CAN solo. A few Multispecs, web, mwd, point. Lows = sig distortion amps. 5 Missile Launcher II's, and you've got enough dps to take down a BS over time. However, with no tank, your entire pvp success is luck based. -Eagle is much like the Harpy. It can snipe. However, from 200km+. Sit on a lowsec gate, and you can pop many haulers before they warp. Blaster setup can also solo, but tends to lack the dps to break the majority of tanks. Will change however with the +1 turret coming in. -Vulture can solo rather well, in just the same way the Eagle can, +5 drones. With the +1 eagle and ferox turret tho, vulture will be left in the dust. -Nighthawk is so far probably the best solo ship, for the ability to deal decent dps, and have a decent tank, WHILST fitting a scram. An mwd and web are hard to fit however. -Onyx is by far my favourite solo ship. With the ability to have a high slot scram, and a tank most Hictors cant even compare to, its the ultimate caldari soloer. High slot scram, huge tank, caracal dps? Lovely. -Raven can tank and ofc deal heavy dps, but sadly an MWD gimps the ship and tackling tends to gimp the tank. However can be used as a huge kamikaze kestrel in that aspect. -Rokh is again, much like the Eagle and Vulture. Sniping to deal long range dps, but nothing more. It also like the Eagle (Beagle) and Vulture (Bulture), can be used as a blaster boat (Blokh). However, suffers from being BS sized, and not fantastic dps. However, very nice blaster range with null ammo. Hope this helps mate.
Xsag Caldari InterGalactic Dominion Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.15 12:34:00 - [5] Edited by: Xsag on 15/02/2008 12:34:58 gotta say thats one hell of a post! but to summarise what ur saying missile skilled caldari = manti / crow and suicide kestrel for rails (all the other ships on your list) ive tried solo pvp in a raven and i gotta say - ITS SUICIDE! ~n00b of all trades~ ~if im posting on here its cos im in work~ ~Now with a face!~
Waxau The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.15 13:06:00 - [6] Originally by: Xsag Edited by: Xsag on 15/02/2008 12:34:58 gotta say thats one hell of a post! but to summarise what ur saying missile skilled caldari = manti / crow and suicide kestrel for rails (all the other ships on your list) ive tried solo pvp in a raven and i gotta say - ITS SUICIDE! Well, nighthawk is also a good solo boat. And drake to a certain extent. But with missiles, you can attack at any range, and with passive tanks, you arent affected by nos. Downside however, is that you lose out when it comes to tackling etc. At the end of the day, most caldari ships you cant 'realistically' pvp in. But atm, im soloing in my onyx. Ive solo'd in my cerb. And ive solo'd in my crow. Ive also sniped in the vulture/eagle, and solo'd with blasters too. However, anything else, and its not effective enough.
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.02.15 13:32:00 - [7] From the numbers, both Raven and Drake seem to be solid soloers, although I have to admit that I have no experience with either yet (training the skills up atm). Just don't try to active tank either. -- Gradient forum
Waxau The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.15 13:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Theron Gyrow From the numbers, both Raven and Drake seem to be solid soloers, although I have to admit that I have no experience with either yet (training the skills up atm). Just don't try to active tank either. The drake is a tricky soloer. Any kills they get tend to be from stupidity of the opponent. Eg - A crow orbitting under 5km. However, the passive tank is ONLY good when you use most of your mids for tank. Using only 3 or so means it sucks at tanking. Thus, very difficult to pvp fit well. As for raven...Much the same. Difference is however, the Raven is a popular ratter, and so most kills are from folks trying to take advantage and kill em. When it goes wrong, thats when you see the kills.
Xsag Caldari InterGalactic Dominion Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.15 13:41:00 - [9] Originally by: Theron Gyrow From the numbers, both Raven and Drake seem to be solid soloers, although I have to admit that I have no experience with either yet (training the skills up atm). Just don't try to active tank either. seriously save urself some iskies dont solo in a raven i promise u will live to regret it ~n00b of all trades~ ~if im posting on here its cos im in work~ ~Now with a face!~
Madla Mafia The Dead Man's Hand	Posted - 2008.02.15 14:50:00 - [10] Caldari - Solo - PvP = Pick 2. ------------------------------------------ Amarr - getting screwed since 2005.
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.02.15 15:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Waxau The drake is a tricky soloer. Any kills they get tend to be from stupidity of the opponent. Eg - A crow orbitting under 5km. However, the passive tank is ONLY good when you use most of your mids for tank. Using only 3 or so means it sucks at tanking. Thus, very difficult to pvp fit well. I think I'd go for tanking by killing the opponent as fast as possible + nice'ish buffer. HAM2s, MWD/scram/web/2invu2/LSE2, DC2/2BCU2/PDU2 (third BCU if you have 3% grid implant) would be my first try. -- Gradient forum
Pinky Denmark The Cursed Navy	Posted - 2008.02.15 15:09:00 - [12] Caldari solo pvp is like balancing on the edge more than any other racial ships. You need a decent balance with tactics, tackle and tank in a perfect balance for the job. It's not easy but many people have success using most ships already named. Get the balance slightly wrong or select the wrong oponent in your selected ship and you'll fail horrible... As a general rule caldari ships will struggle vs similar skilled pilots in similar class ships, but don't give up because you get punished everytime... You just need to twitch your setups and maybe tactics a little. Good luck - You'll need that too ofcourse - I'm a nice guy!! But hook me up with some pew pew, because I'm really bored...
Haradgrim The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.02.15 16:06:00 - [13] You need pretty decent skills to solo PVP with caldari The ships I would use: 1) Onyx 2) Manticore 3) Nano-Cerb The Onyx is a good Solo PVP caldari ship because it can fit a hell of a tank, has enough dps to pop alot of ships, is capable of locking anything down, and doesn't require a mid to tackle. Manticore is awesome if you know what your doing. I don't bother with damps anymore since the nerf, I fit a passive targeter and a TP, that combined with 2 resolution script fitted targeting mods, and you can get the 2 volleys needed to kill just about any frig off before their first one hits you, 1 tip: close range is good if you aren't planning on getting hit. The Nano-Cerb is a bit more of a traditional PVP ship, you its got a good tank, good dps, and its speed is very tactically useful. However, it is somewhat of a target specific ship, haulers are easy prety, Its useful against non-inty frigates, but my favorite use (and this was suggested to me, I haven't had a chance to try it yet) is as a deimos kills. It is the perfect counter to the glass cannon since the speed and tank partialy negate the absurd dps the deimos puts out, the speed keeps it from getting in rage, yet you can still keep it tackled and pop it with your missiles. Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.15 16:42:00 - [14] Edited by: Ishina Fel on 15/02/2008 16:42:17 The Scorpion (and in turn the Widow) are vastly underrated for solo work - 8 mids let you fit 4-5 jammers, MWD, and tackling/cap/emergency tank equipment. They can use a torpedo/neut combo and have an okay dronebay. Be the Ultimate Ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today!
Haradgrim The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.02.15 18:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Ishina Fel Edited by: Ishina Fel on 15/02/2008 16:42:17 The Scorpion (and in turn the Widow) are vastly underrated for solo work - 8 mids let you fit 4-5 jammers, MWD, and tackling/cap/emergency tank equipment. They can use a torpedo/neut combo and have an okay dronebay. This. I forgot to mention both in my post above, but Ishina is right. The widow is epic, while I aven't flown one, I recently got thoroughly spanked by one and was quite frankly shocked at its EWar potential. The Scorp is an oldie but a goodie, with the ECM bonus and torp changes + neuts, they are scary, especially against nano-fits or other EWar. Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
AnKahn Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.02.15 19:33:00 - [16] If you are hunting wabbits... How are you going to sneak up on anyone with a Heavy Interdictor? And if you are solo gatecamping with a HIC...you die. Now if you could warp cloaked in one..ha
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.15 19:35:00 - [17] Drakes make good solo ships.
Waxau The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.15 19:36:00 - [18] Originally by: AnKahn If you are hunting wabbits... How are you going to sneak up on anyone with a Heavy Interdictor? And if you are solo gatecamping with a HIC...you die. Now if you could warp cloaked in one..ha Someone hasnt flown a Hictor :P
Haradgrim The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.02.15 19:57:00 - [19] Originally by: AnKahn If you are hunting wabbits... How are you going to sneak up on anyone with a Heavy Interdictor? And if you are solo gatecamping with a HIC...you die. Now if you could warp cloaked in one..ha Step 1) fit focused warp disruption script step 2) fit sensor booster (with resolution script) Step 3) fly to a low-sec gate Step 4) ???? Step 5) Profit Thats just one example. Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
AnKahn Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.02.15 20:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Haradgrim Originally by: AnKahn If you are hunting wabbits... How are you going to sneak up on anyone with a Heavy Interdictor? And if you are solo gatecamping with a HIC...you die. Now if you could warp cloaked in one..ha Step 1) fit focused warp disruption script step 2) fit sensor booster (with resolution script) Step 3) fly to a low-sec gate Step 4) ???? Step 5) Profit Thats just one example. Sigh, Yes I haven't flown a HIC. So basically the new Vagabond in terms of lowsec annoyance. And by the time I could get into one, they'll be nerfed. Got to love EvE players with time and isk on their hands. Peace brothers, and have fun. My tech one stuff is well insured.
Haradgrim The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.02.15 20:13:00 - [21] actually they are cheaper if you account for fittings then most HACs and if you could fly a HAC and dictor, you would have had less then a week of training to fly one.... Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
AnKahn Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.02.15 20:45:00 - [22] Originally by: Haradgrim actually they are cheaper if you account for fittings then most HACs and if you could fly a HAC and dictor, you would have had less then a week of training to fly one.... Easy access makes it scarrier. Sounds like a cool ship, but I try not to change my "EvE plan" based on the new toy thing. However, being Caldari for the same reason all EvE noobs are, it is encouraging that we have a good ship that may make training up tech 2 Caldari really worth it. So far I'm against the idea of a tech 2 PvE ship. It seems wrong. Rather have a CNR. Please NH and Cerb pilots, try not to take offense
Svensgaard	Posted - 2008.02.15 20:47:00 - [23] Caldari, PVP, success Pick two....
AnKahn Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.02.15 21:21:00 - [24] Originally by: Svensgaard Caldari, PVP, success Pick two.... First of all, is it me or is this pick 2 thing getting old, annoying, and unfunny? Second, Caldari suck at SOLO PvP. Caldari excel at gang support. But like the Amarr and their cap issues and whatnot, I don't expect that to change anytime soon.
Vymorna Grom Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.15 21:52:00 - [25] Not sure many pilots would want to come up against a well-fitted Cerb . . . Then again, I have this strange fascination with Caracal-hulled ships.
Gypsio III Darkness Inc. Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.02.15 22:13:00 - [26] Originally by: Svensgaard Caldari, PVP, success Pick two.... I used to believe this. Then I got greedy and picked all three.
Wrayeth Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.02.16 01:38:00 - [27] Originally by: Madla Mafia Caldari - Solo - PvP = Pick 2. Sad, but true for most of the Caldari lineup. It's why I largely PvP with Matari vessels - they're solo capable and can provide tackle and other useful functions in a gang. -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Drakarian Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2008.02.16 01:45:00 - [28] Edited by: Drakarian on 16/02/2008 01:45:15 Seems like Gallante Drone boats or Minmitar BC's are the best solo ships for pvp out there. That said, I think Amarr will rule the eve world in pvp one day soon :)
Magazaki	Posted - 2008.02.16 03:16:00 - [29] Originally by: AnKahn Originally by: Svensgaard Caldari, PVP, success Pick two.... First of all, is it me or is this pick 2 thing getting old, annoying, and unfunny? Second, Caldari suck at SOLO PvP. Caldari excel at gang support. But like the Amarr and their cap issues and whatnot, I don't expect that to change anytime soon. It is getting old annoying and unfunny, but the best part is that it gets more wrong by the day. Which makes me happy. So I forgive them. Also, the more people believe Caldari suck the more the probability of Caldari being underestimated at the wrong time, and there's nothing better that can happen to you than that (except for a friendly nanogang of course ) -----sig----- Originally by: Kaemonn:Signature Originally by: kieron: off duty You dont have to swallow! Win...

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