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Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:13:00 -
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Via @khanhrhh and Sarmatiko
Let's...just assume there's some kind of signature here, 'k?
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OH WAIT.
Jace Errata on Twitter |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
2508
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:20:00 -
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Clearly it's a bear with a fish in its mouth.
/c
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David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
302
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:21:00 -
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those models look awesome.... even the minnie one looks alot sturdier :)
Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |
Tore Vest
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:26:00 -
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And gallente ones gets more and more ugly.... 
Highsec carebear... and proud of it |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
573
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:36:00 -
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The new Ibis makes me want to be a rookie again... and Caldari... |
Jafit
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:47:00 -
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Impairor looks nice.
Ibis looks like a T3 frigate, I prefer the old one as it looks worthless, wheras a T3 look doesn't.
Velator doesn't really look organic enough to be gallente to me, but it does look cheaply constructed
Reaper looks like a chunky World of Warcraft cartoon spaceship.
CCP how about remaking the Naglfar so it has space for more guns so we don't have to put up with such a ridiculous split weapon setup? |
Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
104
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:47:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:The new Ibis makes me want to be a rookie again... and Caldari...
I'll contract you one tomorrow :) it won't be using the new model right away, obviously.
Let's...just assume there's some kind of signature here, 'k?
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OH WAIT.
Jace Errata on Twitter |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1062
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Posted - 2012.02.16 14:25:00 -
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All of them a million times better than the originals. I never understood why the Velator had a wing that was so rounded off...just looks odd. That new one looks much better. The Minmitar one reminds me of a motorcycle with one of those little passenger cars attached to it.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Disdaine
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Posted - 2012.02.16 14:54:00 -
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Great allocation of resources.
Redesign ships that get used for a couple of hours before they're handed an upgrade which now looks worse. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3147
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Posted - 2012.02.16 14:55:00 -
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Jafit wrote:Impairor looks nice.
Ibis looks like a T3 frigate, I prefer the old one as it looks worthless, wheras a T3 look doesn't.
Velator doesn't really look organic enough to be gallente to me, but it does look cheaply constructed
Reaper looks like a chunky World of Warcraft cartoon spaceship.
CCP how about remaking the Naglfar so it has space for more guns so we don't have to put up with such a ridiculous split weapon setup?
gallente less organic more military styled deco.
I expected a more massive change but these models dont have thier maps yet so maybe theyll chnage how they look even more.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3147
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Posted - 2012.02.16 14:56:00 -
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Disdaine wrote:Great allocation of resources.
Redesign ships that get used for a couple of hours before they're handed an upgrade which now looks worse.
You can't buy a second first impression.
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Ganagati
Perkone
Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:06:00 -
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Do EVE ship designers have some sort of religious belief that strictly forbids the use of symmetrical designs?
Proof Titans are rare (just another null battle): http://i.imgur.com/CY6x4.jpg-áBattles in EVE can look kinda silly sometimes, huh? |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3147
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:15:00 -
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Ganagati wrote:Do EVE ship designers have some sort of religious belief that strictly forbids the use of symmetrical designs?
yes.
symmetry is expensive.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
335
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:22:00 -
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Now just give them a stat buff and newbies can actually have fun playing the game in their rookie ships. |
Jafit
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:28:00 -
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Ganagati wrote:Do EVE ship designers have some sort of religious belief that strictly forbids the use of symmetrical designs?
The drugs they take while designing the ships make them forget what they made the other side of the ship look like.
The designers of the Aeon died from an overdose |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
232
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:42:00 -
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Disdaine wrote:Great allocation of resources.
Redesign ships that get used for a couple of hours before they're handed an upgrade which now looks worse.
Not all resources are equal.
Tasks can not be sped up by just throwing more bodies at them. There's always diminishing returns.
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
211
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:00:00 -
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new reaper is ****, like the old reaper!
Save the Miners! |
Valei Khurelem
327
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:05:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Ganagati wrote:Do EVE ship designers have some sort of religious belief that strictly forbids the use of symmetrical designs? yes. symmetry is expensive.
Symmetry can be difficult, but that's why artists draw centre lines otherwise you might as well be drawing blindfolded.
Also, not an official EVE video >_<
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Dessau
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:07:00 -
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New Velator hull looks good, not sure how well it fits with the rest of the Gallente line-up. Depending on your point of view, that may be for the best.
Ibis doesn't strike me as a Caldari ship, though there is a resemblance to the shuttle or somesuch. Final version may change my mind.
Impairor looks the least changed, and again is nudged closer to the shape of the shuttle.
Reaper looks more like a spaceship, but I still don't care for the design. Seems like the engines would tear it apart now. |
Sprite Can
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:14:00 -
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They redo the Ibis completely but leave the Velator as a flying tumormobile... sigh.
Refreshing Lemon-Lime~ |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
154
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:16:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Clearly it's a bear with a fish in its mouth.
/c
Nooo, It's a snuffaluffagus!
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Ayieka
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:22:00 -
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The ibis was the embodiment of caldari ship design, boxy, assymmetrical, functional design. and they go and turn it into a mini tengu. |
Jafit
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
26
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:48:00 -
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I would like to see the old legacy (post-trinity) ship models reintroduced to the game as faction or prototype ship hulls.
Look at that beauty
There's really nothing wrong with those old ship models in my opinion, it'd be nice to see them still knocking around the universe. |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
613
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:03:00 -
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Caladri one looks great, Minmatar is not even slightly great. Shame. |
Velarra
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
45
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:07:00 -
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Ibis seems much better aside from the nose / forward section which is awfully reminiscent of the ghastly hookbill nose & the ugly tengu obfuscation manifold subsystem. it's like a ship with an overly long chin. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
807
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:10:00 -
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I really really like all the new noob ships except the Velator. The noob ships are your first impression to the game ... this should have been done ages ago. :)
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
524
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:12:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Ganagati wrote:Do EVE ship designers have some sort of religious belief that strictly forbids the use of symmetrical designs? yes. symmetry is expensive.
In symmetry lies the Devil, thus we must avoid all things symmetrical. Agreed.
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Burhtun
Pacific Mining and Manufacturing Co-operative
Nox Draconum
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:27:00 -
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Cool. The Impairor and Ibis are great. Though I agree with the previous comment about the Ibis being a bit long in the neck. The Velator looks very Caldari and Heron-like. Where are the Gallente curves? The Reaper I like the least of the bunch. Shame, as I am Minmatar. Minnie ships should look bad ass right from the get go. |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
613
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Posted - 2012.02.16 19:50:00 -
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Still waiting for someone to like the MInmatar effort. Maybe it's my lack of subjective talent spotting.
I sincerely hope the V3/new designs in the Spring are better than this and impress as much as the Tornado did  |
Cathy Drall
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
228
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Posted - 2012.02.16 20:00:00 -
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Disdaine wrote:Great allocation of resources.
Redesign ships that get used for a couple of hours before they're handed an upgrade which now looks worse.
Agreed. Really too bad the Impairor has no T2 hull ..
Ganagati wrote:Do EVE ship designers have some sort of religious belief that strictly forbids the use of symmetrical designs?
Apparently. They like misshaped things. |
Janis Ezra
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2012.02.16 20:19:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Ganagati wrote:Do EVE ship designers have some sort of religious belief that strictly forbids the use of symmetrical designs? yes. symmetry is expensive.
1. design half of the model
2. copy&paste
3. mirror it
4. ????? |
Alara IonStorm
1590
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Posted - 2012.02.16 20:25:00 -
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IT IS A ******* BABY TENGU THAT COMES WITH FREE TRIT!
DO WANT AND WILL SHOUT IT TO THE HEAVENS!
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3152
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Posted - 2012.02.16 20:38:00 -
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Velator needs a bit more love I think.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3152
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Posted - 2012.02.16 20:41:00 -
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now that I look at it, the new velator looks like a baby talos.
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Ajita al Tchar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:18:00 -
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Ugh. The Impairor looks good, but it looks good right now anyway. Great success 
The Ibis made me think, wtf is this a Sleeper frig or something? The design absolutely doesn't look like it fits the Caldari look. And it doesn't even have to be the ugly wtf Caldari look like Bantams, Moas and Basilisks. The new Ibis looks nothing like any Caldari ship, the design is completely out of line with the rest of the ships, even the decent ones.
The Velator is lol. Good job on making it look worse. It seems to be unfinished, like it needs plates or something applied, and the color is terrible. The current Velator looks a little ridiculous, but it's still better than whatever the **** the new one is supposed to be.
The Reaper seems to be suffering from the Ibis disease. Whoever designed these likes rounded shapes way too much, and didn't spend enough time analyzing user input on what makes a ship look good. There's so much user feedback on ship models on the forums, only a total lazy ass wouldn't be able to find any. Reaper 2.0 looks more substantial than the pile of scrap Reaper 1.0 is, but it looks way too cartoony and not Minmatar at all.
But of course since design decisions are shared with the public only when they are already past the point of no return, these are what we'll be getting. Color me not surprised  |
Evei Shard
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:23:00 -
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If these really are the future rookie ships, I think CCP did a pretty good job.
The Velator is still an asymmetrical mess, but it has harder lines which give it more of a "spaceship" appeal, as opposed to the current one which is more "spaceshit".
The ibis would have been my choice, had CCP said "choose one of the four to remake". The current version of the Ibis looks like one of those cardboard toys that comes as a flat sheet that you trim and fold into shape.
the Impairor doesn't look all that different. What it needed the most in redesign, in my opinion, was to ditch the rectangular panel-style engine housing. It would be nice to have seen that replaced with something more in line with the design of the hull.
I've not flown Minmatar that much, so can't really comment on the Reaper.
Would be neat to see these implemented.
Profit favors the prepared |
Berke Negri
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:26:00 -
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Ajita al Tchar wrote:
The Velator is lol. Good job on making it look worse. It seems to be unfinished, like it needs plates or something applied, and the color is terrible.
ahem |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
Reckless Ambition
221
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:38:00 -
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Velator: I didn't think this ship could look any worse/more stupid, but there it is anyway. Kinda reminds me of a Junk-yard Eris though, so that's good. The old one just look like flabby, waaay overlong-necked/hunchbacked bit of stupid leering at you, this one is at least more properly hard edged.
Impairor: Meh. Still looks too disturbingly leech-like to me.
Reaper: Too overtly asymmetrical--those engine-pod thingies need to be brought in line with each other on either the fore or aft ends, and the vertical fins moved back out-board where they belong. Also make the pods just a skosh longer. (Lyrra sniffles: I always liked the old Reaper, dammit!) But, especially important--harsher/harder edges needed, this model is a bit too "soft" if you see what I mean.
Ibis: Ooooh, I like this--like a cross between a baby Tengu and CalNavy Hookbill. Nice that they took the second-stupidest, dumpiest, aesthetic joke of a ship and dethroned Minmatar as the king of badassery. Surface detailing's a bit busy for my tastes, but I can live with that.
Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM 7!
(Mittens, you may not want to admit it, but your day in the sun is over. Next!)
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Marcus Harikari
Room Is Empty
Enemy-Fleet
26
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:18:00 -
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huh? i don't see any changes |
Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
104
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:29:00 -
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Marcus Harikari wrote:huh? i don't see any changes
Click the link in the OP.
To the guy who said it needs colours etc. - read the video description.
Let's...just assume there's some kind of signature here, 'k?
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OH WAIT.
Jace Errata on Twitter |
Khanh'rhh
One Man Rodgering
665
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:47:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:I really really like all the new noob ships except the Velator. The noob ships are your first impression to the game ... this should have been done ages ago. :)
-Liang
This. I remember being completely offended about how ****** the Ibis looked. I think I even abandoned it in space (my assumption was I would never see it again.)
Of course, I later docked in my pod... which made me think DO NOT WANT
Also, IIRC it was Mittens who pushed for these to be redesigned based on this logic. So place the praise there 
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3163
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:51:00 -
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Pushed for redesign but the art director is trying to style everything after the tech 3 ships the current new art standard.
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Lili Lu
175
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Posted - 2012.02.16 23:03:00 -
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Impairor looks good, but always was the best looking noob ship.
Ibis looks more like a gallente ship tbh, but regardless now looks good.
Velator is some stupid foreshadowing of the ugly Arazu and catalyst. Both ships are stupid looking and combining them in the velator does not make any of them any better.
Reaper has always been a piece of ****. Seriously, it looks totally thrown together. Like scafolding given some engines. Why could it not look more like a hurricane, Maelstrom, Typhoon, whatever. Plenty of decent looking Minmatar ships to emulate. Unfortunately, what it presently looks like, and this redesign still leaves it looking like, is a jumbled mess that is only similar to the Burst (one of the stupidest looking ships in the game). |
Khanh'rhh
One Man Rodgering
665
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Posted - 2012.02.16 23:11:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:it looks totally thrown together. Like scafolding given some engines
It makes perfect sense that the most basic Matar ship would be exactly this  . Especially when you consider some of their larger and higher tech ships are rusty piles of scaffolding and wingy bits.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Berke Negri
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.02.16 23:11:00 -
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to be fair, the typhoon does look like a tipped over trashcan |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
52
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Posted - 2012.02.16 23:12:00 -
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Amarr one is nice.
Caldari is awesome.
Gallente is same but w/o tumors
Minmatar one is combination of ghay,candy,cartoon and fail, thanks God it is colored in sh*t like paint it is less obvious. |
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
243
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Posted - 2012.02.16 23:50:00 -
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The Imparor hasn't really changed much. Cleaned up somewhat, streamlined...
The Ibis is really out of place with the mini-tengu look. I was hoping it would get the Raven facelift. It's a good looking small ship, but it's not an Ibis.
I do like the new art-deco Velator! Nice!
The Reaper needs to lose the fake-gun looking things. Otherwise not bad (if you imagine the new black-and-rust textures on it)! |
Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
104
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Posted - 2012.02.17 00:21:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Lili Lu wrote:it looks totally thrown together. Like scafolding given some engines It makes perfect sense that the most basic Matar ship would be exactly this . Especially when you consider some of their larger and higher tech ships are rusty piles of scaffolding and wingy bits.
Thing is though, we're now several years (and tech levels) after the time when the Minmatar actually started needing to kludge ships together, and a lot of Minmatar ships now are capsuleer-built. The designs should be starting to get cleaned up and refined.
IMO there should be a shiny kickass capsuleer version of ships (the ones we build and fly) and the NPCs get all the old beat-up obsolete designs (navies aside) since they don't have the kind of resources we do.
Let's...just assume there's some kind of signature here, 'k?
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OH WAIT.
Jace Errata on Twitter |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
138
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Posted - 2012.02.17 00:24:00 -
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The Minmatar one looks like it was made by Goblins from WoW. Please don't go that route. It should look 'thinner'.
Buff Hybrid Guns!!!! |
Sarmatiko
533
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Posted - 2012.02.17 00:31:00 -
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Jace Errata wrote:To the guy who said it needs colours etc. - read the video description.
^this. This is how V3 Brutix will look in current TriexporterNET with only diffuse map available: http://i.imgur.com/80ZjP.jpg
Ships will look much cooler with all shaders on  |
Marcus Harikari
Room Is Empty
Enemy-Fleet
26
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Posted - 2012.02.17 00:58:00 -
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this has go to be fake...no way ibis is gonna look like a tengu, lolololol  |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
811
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Posted - 2012.02.17 01:00:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:Jace Errata wrote:To the guy who said it needs colours etc. - read the video description.
^this. This is how V3 Brutix will look in current TriexporterNET with only diffuse map available: http://i.imgur.com/80ZjP.jpgShips will look much cooler with all shaders on
I'd totally fly that. New Hawtness!
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com
PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Galphii
Furnulum pani nolo
THE SPACE P0LICE
22
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Posted - 2012.02.17 01:18:00 -
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Ibis and Impairor are excellent.
Velator is still weird, and actually less gallente than before.
The Reaper is proof that in MMOG's, the worst looking ships/equipment are the ones with the best stats that everyone wants to use, despite being horridly ugly. In MMOG's, you can't be powerful and NOT look like a dork |
Terazul
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.02.17 01:53:00 -
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I find it difficult to judge anything about these ships without the proper shaders applied. No colors, no reflections etc. make for a very different model than what would be seen in-game.
That said, I can at least judge the shape, and I must echo the folks wondering WTF CCP has against symmetry. Just because you can doesn't mean you should... |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
Alliance not Found
16
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Posted - 2012.02.17 08:58:00 -
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I assumed that the new Ibis was the new Velator initially...
Curves?
On a Caldari ship?!?
In my EVE!?!?!? |
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