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Viqer Fell Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.16 21:53:00 - [1] Edited by: Viqer Fell on 16/02/2008 21:54:25 On behalf of Trinity Nova Mercenary Services (ôTNTö) I am delighted to announce the successful completion of its latest contract. TNT was recently contracted via a broker (MERC WANTED) on behalf of his client, the client wishes to retain their anonymity at this time. Whilst we are ignorant of the client's ultimate motivations we understand that the target, New Age Solutions Amalgamated Alliance (ôNASAö), was refuge to a lone pilot who ransomed our client and then proceeded to destroy them afterwards breaking the ago old code of allowing ransomed pilots to escape with their hull intact. This was to prove extraordinarily costly for NASA and the moral of the tale is obvious, to be honourable and gracious even as a criminal. Our Contractual aims were simple and yet wide-ranging, to destroy NASA's logistics during their ongoing re-deployment to the Minotaur constellation of Fountain, to disrupt their ongoing Empire operations, to inflict large scale damage on their space based assets (shipping and structures) and to demoralise their pilots and member corporations. We were advised however that the client did not expect us to venture into Fountain as the price negotiated did not reflect this level of job. Within four days of our contractual war beginning though we began to see a swathe of NASA pilots retreating to their home systems in Minotaur, Fountain. We were determined to exceed our clients expectations on this contract, and as such, we resolved that we'd not let the fact they were retreating to Fountain stop us. Soon NASA were losing pilots and ships in their 0.0 hideaway as well as across the gulf of empire space. During the course of our job, alliance membership fell from a zenith of c500 pilots to just 305 by the end of the war. Most people would assume we had helped cut away the dead wood as happens in some wars but what became clear to NASA was that far from clearing the rotten outer shell we were hewing deep into its core membership and they had begun to lose active pilots hand over fist. One corporation left to try and save it's Shadow Tower once they noticed our siege engines reducing its defences to rubble. They initially tried to plead for clemency but it was not ours to offer. The tower was subsequently destroyed despite the impact on some of my pilots security status following the corporation leaving NASA's. This was just one of many corporations that left the alliance whilst receiving TNT's attention. The stress and strain of having TNT shadow and anticipate their every move soon began to tell and internal dissension became rife as pilots argued over what the alliance should be focussing on. NASA is desperate to hang on the coat tails of the larger alliances and thus obtain space in Fountain of its own. To this end they have taken up an "Anti-Bob" stance in an effort to curry favour with MM and Bruce. Thus whilst their members were being smashed on both the empire front and in their home systems the leadership committed their members to fighting BOB at the southern end of Fountain with the coalition forces. With their logistics stretched, their morale sapped, their pilots under constant fire from TNT and their home systems now being challenged for sovereignty, the pressure was too much and several of their member corps snapped and began to fire upon the +10's that were setting up POS's in their backyard. This led to their removal from the Alliance and the destruction of their POS's by local forces as they were now set as "neutral". Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Viqer Fell Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.16 21:53:00 - [2] Edited by: Viqer Fell on 16/02/2008 21:54:46 During the course of our operations we noted that NASA's logistics were primarily based around Carrier and Rorqual jumps and these were being timed and planned so that the ships were jumping almost immediately upon undocking and that the jump-in point's were located to place them in dock range of their destination station or within safety range of a POS shield. This was the only contractual goal that was causing us some small concern. NASA had immediately moved their freighter and hauler pilots into alternate corporations when they received Concord's notification of our war. They were able, via the aforementioned, capital ships to continue to move assets out of our sphere of influence. TNT actively hunted and destroyed their cynosaural pilots repeatedly but this wasn't enough to our minds. The only way to stymie their operations and to over-achieve in our goals was becoming clear. We needed to focus our attentions on removing their access to their Capital Fleet and in doing so cripple their logistics in one fell blow. Over the first two weeks we had destroyed billions of ships and assets and reduced NASA's pilots to sneaking around space, hoping they wouldn't be seen as they rushed from hole to hole like frightened rabbits. It was time to deliver what we believed would be a devastating blow to morale and to their abilities to move assets. Covert operatives entered the key organisations structures in 0.0 and boarded two Thanatos class carrier ships. As they left the safety of the POS shields they tractored multiple ships into the waiting ship bays and transported the contents of the alliances space based cargo containers into the awaiting hangars. Immediately afterwards our operatives also boarded the alliances Rorqual class industrial ship that had also been left unguarded and unsecured. This behemoth of an industrial ship was slow coming online but once the pilot had breached the primary command system he ordered the ships systems to drag the remaining space based mining barges and Exhumers and set a course out of the system. Within the space of minutes our operatives had removed almost 7 billion Isk in assets from the alliances storage depot and, without a Rorqual, we had massively hindered their ability to move further assets into Fountain from Empire. We are aware via our covert operatives that NASA were approached at this time by the client to explain why they had received TNT's attentions. We are also aware that NASA was approached by a third party who mailed them regarding the thefts suggesting that it had been undertaken by an internal member for personal gain. I am more than happy to put pay to this rumour and confirm that TNT were responsible for the assets being removed in a direct effort to achieve its clients goals. Our operatives are now safely home and have left their temporary employ within NASA's subsidiary organisations. Overall TNT has inflicted almost 13 billion Isk worth of damage to NASA, we have cost them almost 40% of the membership and perhaps most severely we were sufficient hindrance to their operations that it enabled the Black Star Alliance to begin claiming system sovereignty from right under NASA's nose. Without the ability to put up further POS, NASA could do little but sit at the side lines wringing their hands. It is now likely that NASA will be forced to relocate out of Minotaur as a result and we understand they are currently looking with dismay at basing out of Kraken. TNT's services have already been secured for a further contract and following this we will be offering our pilots a period of shore leave. We have now been on active contract for almost 7 weeks in one form or another. If you wish to discuss securing our services then please feel free to contact us via our forums, our ingame channel TrinityNova or by speaking directly to Viqer Fell, TheMantisCH, Fojar or Shajra K'han. I will now open the floor to any questions you may have. Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Viqer Fell Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.16 21:55:00 - [3] . Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Gallant Nose Thunderstruck.	Posted - 2008.02.16 22:02:00 - [4] nice write up
touchvill D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.16 22:09:00 - [5] Played guys! Great write up as usual! ---------- Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Larice Minmatar Seven Provinces	Posted - 2008.02.16 23:15:00 - [6] Gratz TNT. Nice report.
Ace Frehley Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.16 23:37:00 - [7] Yeah I know, I¦m the greatest..... not
Rastelle Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.17 00:24:00 - [8] Great contract,well FC'ed, and amazing team playing. my only wish is that i could have played more (dam work)
Imperius Blackheart Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.17 00:25:00 - [9] o7 Great stuff TNT, good to see you doing what you do best. Some seriously impressive stats there. And Fojar good vid, very entertaining <3 Love you guys. [/url] Proud member of the Caldari Death Squad
Little Zandra Minmatar Funky Monkey Lovers	Posted - 2008.02.17 00:40:00 - [10] its good to see you guys have grown from your early days where i myself wasnt all that much impressed but i have to say this isnt all that bad. keep up the good work and the more people stick to their ransoms and let people live if they pay the better it is for the pirates in and around eve.

proselytizer New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.02.17 00:46:00 - [11] TNT, You guys did a good job. Stole my carrier (Grey's Believer)... if there's honor in that. You did get within 7km of my black ops... You popped me in a mega (at least we were actually hunting you). You outclassed us this time. Perhaps we meet again on the battlefield. Cudos. proselytizer
Viqer Fell Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.17 01:01:00 - [12] Cheers for the props guys. Pros all I can say is that you appeared to be the one guy willing to try to fight and I tip my hat to you on that. We would seriously have loved to have fought and destroyed the carriers and Rorqual but circumstances were such that your alliance refused to risk them during the war. Removing them from NASA's ownership was the only real option open to us in prosecuting that aspect of the goals set. As for the black ops given the area we had to cover, I am quite pleased we got that close. My guys tried very very hard to pin that ship down and were disappointed when you managed to eek your way away from the gate. If you guys ever need a merc force give us a shout, at least you know we deliver Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Frogzuk Dragonian Freelancers KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.17 02:12:00 - [13] nice write up Viqer and congrats to TNT for a job well done ! froggy DGF website killboard
Mikron Alexarr New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.02.17 02:33:00 - [14] Yes, a very literary write-up. Unfortunately there was some creative license taken in the composition. I'm here to make some clarification. Firstly, there was a corp that decided to leave our alliance due to the pressure that trinity nova's capital fleet put on their tower. True enough. Secondly, our alliance with the Northern Powers - From the days of the beginning of NAS (the corp), we have always allied ourselves with the northern powers against the band of brothers alliance. We started our null sec presence in Cloud Ring during the reign of G-Alliance. Since then, we have always shared the common goal with the North to end the tyranny of the band of brothers alliance. NAS has always had the same motto. From our corporate description: "We at NAS seek to empower our members by giving them the freedom to pursue their own agendas, while also benefiting from corp solidarity and the experience of senior members, as well as totally voluntary group activities." We do not force the fight against bob. We only encourage our pilots to follow us. Round Table Enterprises (RDTBL) joined up with NASA to take the space in fountain known as Minotaur. Before bob's presence was gone, NASA pilots were setting up control towers in the constellation. We were growing at a rapid pace. Our free will policy was fine. Almost everyone wanted a piece of the action, and many pilots came to support our growth. The beginnings of Black Star Alliance (before they were an alliance) moved to minotaur, asking if they could share our space. We had always relied on the kindness of the the north before as a corporation and decided that we would pass along the goodwill that had been shown to us. All was well until BLAST formed. They then moved to set up towers. We allowed it. They showed no hostile intentions. This was a critical error. Soon, BLAST established itself in minotaur. It grew, as we had. One day, we were given an ultimatum to leave the constellation by the people that we had shown goodwill to. We retreated into a defensive position and prepared our towers and pilots for battle. BRUCE and MM stepped in and said that there would be no fighting lest we both be driven from Fountain. We both settled down and tabled the matter of the ownership of Minotaur. ____________________________________________________________________] "Did you just smacktalk my grandma?"
Mikron Alexarr New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.02.17 02:34:00 - [15] Trinity Nova was hired at a very convenient time. We were spread thin. They started with our logistics in empire, while we had our combat pilots engaged at the front in Fountain and northern Delve. I was busy trying to gather minerals with the now stolen Rorqual. I was faced with a difficult position. I had no combat pilots to secure our logistic lines. Throughout the ordeal, RDTBL resented the very presence of BLAST in Minotaur. The day finally came when they started shooting members of BLAST. Members of heaven sent and hell bent also joined in on the fighting. They were consequently removed from the alliance. We did not want them to leave or be kicked as we had grown close with them over the past months. However, we would not risk our long-standing relationship with the north for our new friends. This had been a long time coming and in no way forced by the contract against NASA. To be clear, at no point was NASA "hanging on the coat tails" of the other alliances. We were fighting bob and holding our space with the forces that had decided to come to null sec. We did submit to the other, bigger alliances' order not to fight BLAST in the interest of self preservation. We would not be the ones to fire against the coalition. It would simply be unthinkable - not just because we were outnumbered, but because of the good relations we have always maintained. Additionally, our freighter pilots were not moved into different corporations. I, being one of them, can attest to that. The rorqual that was stolen was done so while under the care of another of the NAS directorate. His inexperience with capital ships and trusting nature proved to be a major fault. This is a summary of the above events as they happened on our end. I didn't mean to detract from the OP's skill with words, I simply wanted to clarify some points that were not sufficiently covered. ____________________________________________________________________] "Did you just smacktalk my grandma?"
Mikron Alexarr New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.02.17 02:35:00 - [16] And now! On to the good bits. Trinity Nova was contracted by a pilot who was unhappy with the way that NAS (not NASA) conducted their low-sec business. In the Lonetrek region, we have always operated, officially, under the policy of NBSI. Personally, I normally work on NRDS. This was the letter from Trinity Nova: ôAs you are no doubt aware you have recently been on the receiving end of Trinity Nova. This is due to a single incident which I will try and explain now. Several months ago a pilot was ransomed in a low security system. Once the ransom had been paid however, his captives (members of your organisation) destroyed his ship regardless. At the time the only response from alliance leadership had been that you did not see yourselves responsible for your pilots actions, even if you did not like the actions taken. I have been asked to inform you that this must change. As a large organisation you MUST hold yourself accountable for the action of the people that fly under your banner. I have been instructed to end the contract with Trinity Nova at the end of the current period IF you follow the following actions. Cont... ...Cont 1) An apology on Eve Forums for any past activities that may be seen as ôpiratingö. 2) Included in the above, a statement that the alliance leadership is, and will remain accountable for activities of all of its pilots, past and present. 3) Re-imbursement for the ship and modules lost (including cargo) totalling to 1,23 Billion ISK (1,230,000,000) û funds to be sent to MERC WANTED. If the above is conformed to by 09:00 Eve time on Thursday 14th February (message to be posted on COAD or SHC Eve forums) then Trinity Nova will no longer continue on their current contract. Any questions or comments then please don't hesitate to contact me. Regards Merc.ö ____________________________________________________________________] "Did you just smacktalk my grandma?"
Mikron Alexarr New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.02.17 02:35:00 - [17] This was the first communication and at first, I was dumbfounded as to how one of our pilots would not have honored a ransom. Never, and I repeat, never has any pilot in NAS taken a ransom and continued the fight after the receipt of the money. This was also the case in the above mentioned incident. After a second mailing, I realized what situation this was about. The æclientÆ that hired Trinity Nova was indeed ransomed by our pilots. Our pilots also left as soon as the ransom was paid. Now, we would have appeared on the killmail as assessories to his ships demise, but if you check that same kill mail (the full one) There are other pilots on that killers list. Those pilots are responsible for his loss û at least, the ones who made it a reality. I had even encouraged them to leave him be, as he had paid the ransom. Yes, I was there in a Scorpion. I did know the pilots responsible. However, they did not fly ôunder my bannerö and thus I had no control over their actions. (not that I would, as part of NASÆs mission statement) The pilot lost his maelstrom because he had asked me to take part in the destruction of my corpmates and friends outside my corp. In his haste for vengeance, (he had lost a hurricane to them before this while I was in a Griffin observing) he asked me to team up with him. I was astonished at the ignorance. My conscience was actually bothered by the events that transpired. I was reassured by DarwinÆs Law. The pilotÆs name was ColonelForbin. He has taken an isolated incident and involved the whole of my Alliance. I will not pursue this pilot as my time is better spent looking for targets more worthy of my time and money. The shame that this coward must endure for his foolish actions is punishment enough (along with the loss of his money to the mercenary organization). Rest assured, however, that I will not forget what has transpired, and IÆm sure that none of my fellow pilots will either. I hope this hasnÆt gone on too long. This is what happened through my eyes. I did my best to keep my opinions removed from the reportings of the incident. I am also happy to report that the capitals that have been stolen, have been replaced. Trinity Nova, thank you for testing my pilots, even if I disagreed with the reasons. I may even contact you for your sevices when we have fully recoverd from this incident. I am the director of resource management for NAS and, in the absence of my CEOs, acting CEO, along with Krennel Darius. We are the senior directors of NAS and NASA. ____________________________________________________________________] "Did you just smacktalk my grandma?"
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.17 03:29:00 - [18] Nice writeups all around guys, grats TNT ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
Trebor Locke Gallente Round Table Enterprises	Posted - 2008.02.17 03:30:00 - [19] Edited by: Trebor Locke on 17/02/2008 03:35:37 Originally by: Mikron Alexarr Throughout the ordeal, RDTBL resented the very presence of BLAST in Minotaur. The day finally came when they started shooting members of BLAST. Members of heaven sent and hell bent also joined in on the fighting. They were consequently removed from the alliance. We did not want them to leave or be kicked as we had grown close with them over the past months. However, we would not risk our long-standing relationship with the north for our new friends. This had been a long time coming and in no way forced by the contract against NASA. Your members sure did enjoy assisting in the destruction of our POSs. Also in throwing true hate mail our way. I also would like to add the fact that NASA was being pushed and shoved into positions that were incredibly revealing via BLAST. I hold no disdain for them but, when you claim territory, you hold it. We also had various problems killing reds in home systems because when RDTBL pilots called for assistance against a target, or an escort during mining, or a ratting buddy, the calls were to deaf ears. Of course with the exception of many others in NASA claiming 'Round Table Whines too Much' when in reality, it really looks bad to run away from a fight shrugs. We got fed up with it all and decided to have a little fun. Might have lost some nice POSs in the process but, still well worth it :) Wish you all the best though :) P.S. Wraith is still very much a loose cannon ;) -------------- Round Table Enterprises Your friendly heavy production corporation.
Arrakkis	Posted - 2008.02.17 03:51:00 - [20] Interesting to hear TNT's side of the conflict. I'm the pilot of the Taranis from the video that ran at hull during our first encounter, then chased you off later on. I'm a new member of NASA, only joined about a week before the wardec, so I'm new to PvP and 0.0 in general. That fight was my first real PvP battle; I was pleased enough to have saved my ally and escaped just barely alive. Nearly got you during our second encounter, but you managed to slip out of my web/scram just in time. Pity I got there a moment too late to save the Domi. I had hoped to score one kill on you before the wardec ended, but I guess it was not to be. A pleasure doing battle with you, I'm planning on doing some real PvP practice with corpmates so I can put up an actual fight in the future.

SSgt Sniper Gallente MAIDS Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.17 04:03:00 - [21] Am I correct in my assement that Trinity took more losses to incidental 'NBSI' engagements during the campaign than they took to NASA itself? I know I killed a curse of thiers during all the fun. Was an epic small scale fight, went on a long time and was much fun. GL to Trinity in thier future. o7 ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
MERC WANTED	Posted - 2008.02.17 10:54:00 - [22] Firstly my thanks to Trinity Nova, they have, as usuall excelled my expectations and those of my client. The terms of the contract were filled quickly and in a proffetional manner. I continue to recomend TNT for any Mercinary Services you may have. Their willingness to risk their ships in Fountin and their security status removing a low sec pos as an extension of the contract is what seperates true Mercinaries from Pirates that just desire a sideline business. This contract has been on my books for some time, it was chosen to be implimented now due to NASA's move to Fountain. The logistics of any alliance are afterall easier to hit when they are not docked up. Originally by: Mikron Alexarr The pilotÆs name was ColonelForbin. I have at no time give a pilots name to Trinity Nova in relation to the above mentioned incident. I have moved operations away from inflicting combat losses due to the leadership of NASA being unwilling to comply with the terms i provided (see above) and my client being unwilling to continue to inflict losses in ships, modules and moral to the general public of NASA membership. Updates on the operation will be posted at the Clients discretion should the need arise. Again my thanks to TNT.
Viqer Fell Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.17 11:57:00 - [23] Dear Miklon, thank you for the courteous response. Just a few minor corrections I would make to your comments but on the whole it was nice to see a pleasant reply. Firstly, there were at least 2 or 3 freighter pilots that fled the alliance to preserve their safety following the war declaration. Lucy Stratos is but one example. Given that Lucy is the alt of Lucian Stratos who remained in NASA throughout the war it cannot be reasonably argued that the character left for any other reason. You go on to confirm that one of the member corporations left the alliance due to the war, The Hidden Hand, when we destroyed their POS. The implication being that the other 6 corps that left, did not do so due to the pressures of war. TNT understands also that Roundtable and HSHB were expelled due to their actions against BLAST. The internal strife that was caused by TNT's presence clearly exacerbated an already volatile position and ultimately led to Roundtable taking the action they did. Had NASA not had TNT sat on its doorstep, Roundtable pilots would not have had to call for help in defending their home systems and may not have felt the need to take the actions they did. In terms of TNT being hired and any ultimatums that were issued I am afraid we cannot discuss those. The terms of our hiring are confidential and as such none of anybody's business but TNT's and its clients. In terms of the ultimatum you need to note it was not sent by nor related to TNT in the slightest. It was my understanding that the ultimatum was sent directly from the intermediary broker MERC WANTED on behalf of the client whose identity was kept confidential. On a final note I am pleased that you have been able to start recovering in the aftermath of the war. We take no personal pleasure in inflicting our clients lessons upon the target organisations, a job is just a job after all, we have no issue with wishing you every success in your future endeavours. Finally thank you to MERC WANTED for selecting TNT to fulfill his clients needs. .TNT. We Kill People so you don't have to. Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Viqer Fell Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.17 13:01:00 - [24] Edited by: Viqer Fell on 17/02/2008 13:03:07 Unecessary Modding given the polite nature of what was said but I guess the rules is the rules. Arrakkis said Interesting to hear TNT's side of the conflict. I'm the pilot of the Taranis from the video that ran at hull during our first encounter, then chased you off later on. I'm a new member of NASA, only joined about a week before the wardec, so I'm new to PvP and 0.0 in general. That fight was my first real PvP battle; I was pleased enough to have saved my ally and escaped just barely alive. Nearly got you during our second encounter, but you managed to slip out of my web/scram just in time. Pity I got there a moment too late to save the Domi. I had hoped to score one kill on you before the wardec ended, but I guess it was not to be. A pleasure doing battle with you, I'm planning on doing some real PvP practice with corpmates so I can put up an actual fight in the future. and MERC WANTED said Firstly my thanks to Trinity Nova, they have, as usuall excelled my expectations and those of my client. The terms of the contract were filled quickly and in a proffetional manner. I continue to recomend TNT for any Mercinary Services you may have. Their willingness to risk their ships in Fountin and their security status removing a low sec pos as an extension of the contract is what seperates true Mercinaries from Pirates that just desire a sideline business. This contract has been on my books for some time, it was chosen to be implimented now due to NASA's move to Fountain. The logistics of any alliance are afterall easier to hit when they are not docked up. Originally by: Mikron Alexarr -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The pilot¦s name was ColonelForbin. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have at no time give a pilots name to Trinity Nova in relation to the above mentioned incident. I have moved operations away from inflicting combat losses due to the leadership of NASA being unwilling to comply with the terms i provided (see above) and my client being unwilling to continue to inflict losses in ships, modules and moral to the general public of NASA membership. Updates on the operation will be posted at the Clients discretion should the need arise. Again my thanks to TNT. Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Sgt Jinxed Domination.	Posted - 2008.02.18 02:17:00 - [25] Good writeup. <3 Fojar
jam6549 Malicious Intentions The Church.	Posted - 2008.02.18 10:14:00 - [26] nice work, and good video!
Tjakka KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.18 14:39:00 - [27] Edited by: Tjakka on 18/02/2008 14:40:53 Edited by: Tjakka on 18/02/2008 14:40:05 Originally by: Viqer Fell Their willingness to risk their ships in Fountin and their security status removing a low sec pos as an extension of the contract is what seperates true Mercinaries from Pirates that just desire a sideline business. So what exacly is the Difference between a pirate corp doing a sideline business and them? They shot a POS without having a offical war dec? (sec status hit) and they stole from a corp. Now you tell me what a pirate corp could do worse ... ... Avarage of 6-7kills per day, you probably stole more ISK then you destroyed
Viqer Fell Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.18 16:00:00 - [28] Edited by: Viqer Fell on 18/02/2008 16:01:27 TJ, I fully understand your stance is taken because you dislike the fact we removed their assets. Had we had any other option in respect of those capitals we would have gladly blown them up but sadly the game does not allow for this with instahopping capitals and poorly programmed collision detection around stations (40km docking radius anyone?). The POS issue is simple, the corp involved attempted to use a rather lame mechanic to try and avoid the consequences of the war where the amount of strontium you can fuel a pos with can exceed the time taken for a war declaration to expire when leaving an alliance. Had TNT been an alliance we would have immediately war declared the individual corporation and as such there would have been a fully sanctioned war in place for when the tower exited its reinforced mode. This is soon to be rectified and will not be an issue in future. As for the difference between what we did with the tower (bear in mind it was put in reinforced during a valid war)and a random pirate corp attacking a pos, don't be so obtuse. In that respect your comments regarding the numbers killed are just a little odd. We have colleagues in TRI killing 50-100 ships a week, people in Sylph havig their fun and friends in both BoB, BRUCE, MM and RAGOON blowing stuff up daily in mass quantities. Hell even Burn Eden manage to kill the odd pilot (joke BE guys <3 ). I am quite sure that down in Period Basis and Delve the Tortugans are applying substantial boot to ass and tbh I respect and applaud you all for the volumes of goods destroyed. Funny thing is that compared to BoB or RA or Goons or Hydra or BRUCE or any other of the Super-Alliances, a 500 man alliance, where the average online activity appeared to vary between 30-40 on day one and 15-20 by then end, doesn't offer the potential for hundreds of kills a week. Therfore to kill on average 1/5th of their daily activity and to have 75% of the rest docked or hiding is not a poor achievement. You know this and I know this so I find your viewpoint here quite bizarre. Ultimately your comments ingame, that you are against any sort of taking of equipment, whether this be by piracy, contracted mercenary work or just simple individual greed, is colouring your judgement and ultimately your response. Black and white veiwpoints are fine for hypothetical conversations, just don't expect the world to operate that way though. Or at least don't be surprised when someone does something that doesn't fit into this blinkered thinking. Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.18 16:04:00 - [29] Just been linked to this. Good job TnT, nice write up :) KIA EVE Home Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Viqer Fell Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.18 16:09:00 - [30] Thank you Eddz, KIA's performance within the Tortugan campaign has been impressive to say the least. Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards



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