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Tank CEO Caldari Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.20 21:09:00 - [61] Originally by: Hamfast Originally by: Tank CEO Im not for relocating skill points. I am confused... you are asking to have your race and starting path changed because you have more knowledge now on what would be best for what you ended up being... but you don't want to relocate (Reallocate?) skill points... so your change would have little affect on your past, just on your future... how long it will take to train that next skill point, not the skills you trained a week ago. If you are actually asking that youÆre starting stats (Race and Back Ground Story) to be modified, and then your past training reflect that change, then in fact you are asking for the Reallocation of skills. Hi read my post again, it will solve your confusion. ------------- Jita is mine.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.02.20 21:28:00 - [62] Originally by: Tank CEO So I didnt really think that too far ahead but you know, I didnt think i would stay in this game for almost 5 years when I made my character. Oh well. Originally by: Tank CEO So the whole point of this story is, are there any plans to allow veterans to AT LEAST change their career path (which is very doable roleplaying wise, people change careers all the time). At least give us that if you won't allow us to change our initial attribute selection. I think making a character permant for so long shouldnt be. People make mistakes and I for one had to suffer it for 5 years. If you don't have any plans, make them now because careers should be changable at least once in a players life time. I would honestly pay a fee, real or ingame money wise, to allow me to change my initial attributes/career once. You can do something with this and make it possible. Edit> Let me add that I thought career was the first line of decision making in the character process. I have forgotten of ancestry since its been so long since I made a character. Let me add that what I ment in the respec was the ability to change ancestry along with career. I left WoW for a lot of reasons. EVE doesn't need a 'respec' button. If you want the benefits of a reroll, then reroll. Oh, wait... you also said this: Originally by: Tank CEO Im also jealous of my alts attributes whos a achura. She has 28perc/26intel/24will/24mem/7char with LVl 5 skills / +4 implants, where as for me, I have 26in,20perc,20will,29mem,22char with +4s.. So you already DID reroll. You rolled an alt and trained it up differently. Quit crying. If the current state of affairs is absolutely unacceptable to you, can I hav ur stuff?
Protrade Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2008.02.20 21:34:00 - [63] I also wish I had the ability to change my starting five attribute points... I put +4 into charisma to balance my attributes out not knowing any better....... Since then I have +5 my adv learning skills to help balance, still stinks though. _____________________________________ I am the trading alt for a very wealthy industrial corporation. Billions of isk flow through my Jita 4-4 account every day and I never undock. I'm lovin it.
Tank CEO Caldari Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.20 22:21:00 - [64] Edited by: Tank CEO on 20/02/2008 22:21:54 Quote: So you already DID reroll. You rolled an alt and trained it up differently. Quit crying. If the current state of affairs is absolutely unacceptable to you, can I hav ur stuff? Actually, I speced him ( not trained ) slightly different, +3 Perc/+2 Intel. Try harder flaming noob. Also, you cant have my stuff begger. ------------- Jita is mine.
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2008.02.20 23:43:00 - [65] Originally by: Tank CEO Originally by: Hamfast Originally by: Tank CEO Im not for relocating skill points. I am confused... you are asking to have your race and starting path changed because you have more knowledge now on what would be best for what you ended up being... but you don't want to relocate (Reallocate?) skill points... so your change would have little affect on your past, just on your future... how long it will take to train that next skill point, not the skills you trained a week ago. If you are actually asking that youÆre starting stats (Race and Back Ground Story) to be modified, and then your past training reflect that change, then in fact you are asking for the Reallocation of skills. Hi read my post again, it will solve your confusion. I read it again... it did not really help... (and no, I am not all that worried about it) If all you are asking for is to have your sub-race (Civire it seems) changed to Achura and your base stats adjusted accordingly Charisma 6 to 3 Intelligence 5 to 8 Memory 4 to 6 Perception 9 to 7 Willpower 6 to 6 then Change your Career and Specialization (title listed on your character sheet that no longer fit)... with again some minor shift in your base stats and from this point forward your training would be based on those stats (modified by training and Implants of course) then tend to agree with you, some stipulations may be needed, race and bloodline would require a new picture and that may be too much, but the stats, Career and Specialization don't seem to be all that major... --------*****-------- It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
Tank CEO Caldari Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.21 00:52:00 - [66] Wow you fail at reading. Theres no way in hell I would swap over to Achura. My post clearly states to make it possible to change my ancestry, not bloodline/race, as well as career one time in a characters life time to enable people to somewhat respec their initial attribute selection. ------------- Jita is mine.
Akabe Six Sense Corp. CryoGenesis Mining Syndicate	Posted - 2008.02.21 11:50:00 - [67] I think I can see the reasoning behind Tank's opening post. I haven't been in the game since beta, but sometimes I too wish I could reallocate my attribute points just a little. I started out with a very high INT and MEM and I'm now feeling that training PER/WIL based skills takes an awful lot of time. While I don't agree that you should be able to change your career path (as it's supposed to be your history before your character enters the EVE universe, RPG-wise), I think it would be nice if there was a possibility to alter your attributes at least slightly. The DNA mutator that has been suggested sounds interesting, and so does the "wisdom" attribute. How about giving veteran characters (that have nto been transfered) one extra attribute point they can freely allocate to one of their attributes each year, as some kind of a birthday present? Or, alternatively, the possibility to re-allocate one of their attribute points from one attribute to another, each year? Generally, I think that this is indeed something that CCP should think about.
Tank CEO Caldari Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.21 19:33:00 - [68] My only issue is im listed as a Industrialist.. which I only have 700k SP in that field. Thats not my path... Ill tell you the reason I went high memory. It wasnt for drones or industry, it was for learning skills, I thought that the learning skills and adv learning skills would all have a memory as their main attributes. ------------- Jita is mine.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.02.21 20:01:00 - [69] Originally by: Tank CEO Edited by: Tank CEO on 20/02/2008 22:21:54 Quote: So you already DID reroll. You rolled an alt and trained it up differently. Quit crying. If the current state of affairs is absolutely unacceptable to you, can I hav ur stuff? Actually, I speced him ( not trained ) slightly different, +3 Perc/+2 Intel. Try harder flaming noob. Also, you cant have my stuff begger. You reinforce my point, then. You rolled a toon with new attributes but trained the same skills. That's a reroll if I ever saw one. Since you're quitting, I demand you give me ur stuff.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.02.21 20:21:00 - [70] Originally by: Tank CEO My only issue is im listed as a Industrialist.. which I only have 700k SP in that field. Thats not my path... Ill tell you the reason I went high memory. It wasnt for drones or industry, it was for learning skills, I thought that the learning skills and adv learning skills would all have a memory as their main attributes. Mmkay, so you thought wrong, you made a choice based on a flawed understanding of the skills, and now want CCP to give you a "I don't lose" button (not to be mistaken with the "I Win" button)? Listen mate, all flaming and nonsense aside, it sounds like you made a noob mistake when you were a noob. I'm sure thousands of people did the same thing (I'm sebiestor instead of Brutor, for instance). I don't think it would be a good development for CCP to put this type of World of Warcraft import in the game. It's bad enough they've been nerfing the hell out of everything, they don't need to nerf 'consequences of ill-informed choices' too.
Tank CEO Caldari Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.21 21:43:00 - [71] Originally by: Havohej You reinforce my point, then. You rolled a toon with new attributes but trained the same skills. That's a reroll if I ever saw one. Since you're quitting, I demand you give me ur stuff. Damn your annoying. Who the hell says im quiting? I train alts perfectly, use them, then sell them when I can get a hefty profit of isk. JUST by addding a 1 Time only respec does not make this game like world of warcraft. IN wow, you can respec with no limit. I am suggesting that CCP implement a 1 time respec per character and have a restriction that would only allow characters over 2,3,4 or 5 years old, whatever they may choose to respec. Its like having a name you don't want. I dont want to be a industrialists. As I said before, If I known I would have been listed in my character sheet as a "Industrialist/Merchandiser (Engineer i dont mind) I would have never specced that way. I didnt make a noob mistake in beginning of eve. Its just that eve has evolved so much in 5 years that If i knew what I knew now, I would have never went all intel/memory. Again, I dont mind intel, I just hate my memory. Its useless to me! ------------- Jita is mine.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.21 21:52:00 - [72] Watching a 5 year vet get trolled by a is pretty funny, tbh. Tank, you should know better ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Sparta Honour Bound	Posted - 2008.02.21 22:02:00 - [73] I agree with Tank CEO. I would enjoy the respec system similar to Starwars. I too was in BETA 5 and I started the game all tilted to being an industrial type. Career change, role play change, I do not care what you call it EVE would be a better game if allowed its customers to adjust their characters. And on another note, way shouldn't CCP value its long standing customers; ya, I'd love a Christmas present every year with a reward for my loyality (new faction frigate--sure). They never will, I am sure, in their hearts they are socialists. I still have fond memories of you Tank. You attacked me in your merlin when I was mining in a bantam. You old pirate you.
Tesl	Posted - 2008.02.22 00:43:00 - [74] i fully agree with the OP, i to did a bit of digging around and found most people saying that a good character has high mem, and intel when i first started playing. Well now my toon is borked, but hay that's the way of the world i suppose. I think the real reason its annoying is, because in a game like WOW or SWG, or any-other MMO for that matter, re-rolling a character is a lot easier, you work with your stats in other games, in EVE its TIME that is the problem. You train your skills and they take time, based on your stats. where as with other MMO's you have your base attributes, but then you Grind your character up, someone with more time at the computer can train a character up faster than one who works a 12 hour shift and only gets to play for 1 hour a day, where as in Eve, if your attributes are pants, then your learning is pants, regardless of how long you spend at the screen. I used to play RF online, it was a very good PVP game at one point, and re-rolling a character was as easy as sitting there whacking a monster to death. I love the skill book system in EVE, it means i can walk away and train whilst not even logged in. But when my husband recently rolled a toon, his base stats were miles ahead of mine. his training time was down a lot lower than mine, and i had implants and learning skills trained not to mention a 2 year old character? Many a time i have thought about just quiting with the toon i have, and re rolling, but having to wait all that time for skills to train is a bit disconcerting, its not about a "quick fix" its about having to sit and wait for skills that you previously had again regardless of if you are now training them faster. Its hard to explain but i hope you get what I'm trying to say.
Daelorn Dark Cartel	Posted - 2008.02.22 02:09:00 - [75] Originally by: Havohej You reinforce my point, then. You rolled a toon with new attributes but trained the same skills. That's a reroll if I ever saw one. Since you're quitting, I demand you give me ur stuff. We don't "roll" "toons" Now please GTFO of my EVE, you and your WoW corp.
ThaMa Gebir Gallente Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2008.02.22 06:32:00 - [76] Originally by: Jim Pooley As you are clearly too thick to understand sarcasm, allow me to point it out for you. Noone believes for one second you are the original TANK CEO. He was way way cooler and dignified than you are. You are no more the original TANK than I am. Oops. Do me a favour matey and say hi to your next clone for me yeah... ---------------------------- Confirmed heaviest member of RDEX........ Hah, no more hijacks here!!!!
UGWidowmaker Caldari Setenta Corp INVICTUS.	Posted - 2008.02.22 07:50:00 - [77] why is it everytime a vet say somehtying like this, tons of newer player whine about the old player whine. do not forget what i am about to say to you.... the old players are the direct reason to why you are playing this ausome game, so stop it and have some respect. i fully understand tank ceo on this matter, hell i bet most at ccp does to. when we first started out eve wasent what it is now. and we made our caracters to what it was and now we have to suffer for it ? bull**.. . its just stupid atributes, not like a whole rebuilding of skills... so stuff it. im so sick and tired of all the god damn whining in this game, u cant make a thread without it being flamed.. and that is really a shame.. to sum it up... OFCAUSE it should be posible to change SOMETHING with your caracter when you have played that long, you ***** paid 5 years for a game and that has to meen something! end of story,. OMFG I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
UGWidowmaker Caldari Setenta Corp INVICTUS.	Posted - 2008.02.22 07:52:00 - [78] Originally by: Havohej Originally by: Tank CEO My only issue is im listed as a Industrialist.. which I only have 700k SP in that field. Thats not my path... Ill tell you the reason I went high memory. It wasnt for drones or industry, it was for learning skills, I thought that the learning skills and adv learning skills would all have a memory as their main attributes. Mmkay, so you thought wrong, you made a choice based on a flawed understanding of the skills, and now want CCP to give you a "I don't lose" button (not to be mistaken with the "I Win" button)? Listen mate, all flaming and nonsense aside, it sounds like you made a noob mistake when you were a noob. I'm sure thousands of people did the same thing (I'm sebiestor instead of Brutor, for instance). I don't think it would be a good development for CCP to put this type of World of Warcraft import in the game. It's bad enough they've been nerfing the hell out of everything, they don't need to nerf 'consequences of ill-informed choices' too. you say it yourself... made a n00b mistake 5 YEARS AGO... and others will want also to change a litlle on there mains... OMFG I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2008.02.22 09:07:00 - [79] I see nothing wrong with what Tank is asking for. Tbh it's kind of jacked that character creation can make such a big differenece in amount of time to acquire your skills of choice WHILE ASKED TO MAKE THESE CHOICES when you know the least about the game. Wish I had had a clue like this when I first started: Akita T's thread Juwi Kotch thread Of course, if everyone got that kind of tip when they first started, everyone would be Achura. There's something fundamentally wrong with character creation in Eve. Primarily that alot of choices are made based on avatar appearence when that may seriously effect your SP progress due to the inequality in rate of stats use in training. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2008.02.22 09:41:00 - [80] Originally by: Roy Batty68 I see nothing wrong with what Tank is asking for. Tbh it's kind of jacked that character creation can make such a big differenece in amount of time to acquire your skills of choice WHILE ASKED TO MAKE THESE CHOICES when you know the least about the game. That's the rub of it. Noobs are asked to make a choice about something they do not understand and forced to deal with it or reroll and loose what they've accomplished. That's not good for customer satisfaction. The Real Space Initiative - V5 (Forum Link)
UGWidowmaker Caldari Setenta Corp INVICTUS.	Posted - 2008.02.22 10:19:00 - [81] Originally by: Adunh Slavy Originally by: Roy Batty68 I see nothing wrong with what Tank is asking for. Tbh it's kind of jacked that character creation can make such a big differenece in amount of time to acquire your skills of choice WHILE ASKED TO MAKE THESE CHOICES when you know the least about the game. That's the rub of it. Noobs are asked to make a choice about something they do not understand and forced to deal with it or reroll and loose what they've accomplished. That's not good for customer satisfaction. /signed. OMFG I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
Tesl	Posted - 2008.02.22 10:53:00 - [82] Edited by: Tesl on 22/02/2008 10:54:33 Originally by: UGWidowmaker Originally by: Adunh Slavy Originally by: Roy Batty68 I see nothing wrong with what Tank is asking for. Tbh it's kind of jacked that character creation can make such a big difference in amount of time to acquire your skills of choice WHILE ASKED TO MAKE THESE CHOICES when you know the least about the game. That's the rub of it. Noobs are asked to make a choice about something they do not understand and forced to deal with it or reroll and loose what they've accomplished. That's not good for customer satisfaction. /signed. /Agree Although i haven't been playing the game long (only 2 years, with a 6 month break) But it seems fundamentally wrong. I rolled a Alt on the same account the other day to see if i could get better base stats, and then sat there thinking "wow, i rolled a character back then and didn't have the first idea what "gunnery +II" or "spatial awareness +III" was all about, no wonder my character has borked base stats. Funny thing is, i rolled a Amarr and ended up with better skills trained already (almost all trained to level 4 or 5 ?) and decent base stats everything either 10 or better, with charisma as low as possible only thing putting me off using the Alt, is that ive almost trained my main up to use the ship i always wanted.
Tank CEO Caldari Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.22 22:40:00 - [83] If you agree with my idea, sign it. Make this post get noticed. ------------- Jita is mine.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.02.23 07:31:00 - [84] Originally by: Daelorn Originally by: Havohej You reinforce my point, then. You rolled a toon with new attributes but trained the same skills. That's a reroll if I ever saw one. Since you're quitting, I demand you give me ur stuff. We don't "roll" "toons" Now please GTFO of my EVE, you and your WoW corp. Go to page 1 of this thread, click 'Edit' at the top of your browser, click 'Find in this page', and type in the word toon. Then try roll and reroll. I didn't appear on page one of this thread, I came in late. Come down to Omist and make me GTFO your EvE. Me and my WoW corp.
Tank CEO Caldari Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.23 21:31:00 - [85] Originally by: Havohej Originally by: Daelorn Originally by: Havohej You reinforce my point, then. You rolled a toon with new attributes but trained the same skills. That's a reroll if I ever saw one. Since you're quitting, I demand you give me ur stuff. We don't "roll" "toons" Now please GTFO of my EVE, you and your WoW corp. Go to page 1 of this thread, click 'Edit' at the top of your browser, click 'Find in this page', and type in the word toon. Then try roll and reroll. I didn't appear on page one of this thread, I came in late. Come down to Omist and make me GTFO your EvE. Me and my WoW corp. Stop posting here. ------------- Jita is mine.
pershphanie Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.02.23 21:43:00 - [86] Originally by: Tank CEO Edited by: Tank CEO on 22/02/2008 22:40:32 I started playing this game in beta 5. When retail came closer and closer, I tried to get everything right with my character. In 2003/2004 I really thought I went the right route. I got high intel/mem. I thought in the beginning that having high attributes in that field would serve me good because I knew I was just going to stay caldari and stay with missiles. Of coarse, that did change in 2004/2005 when I speced to fly the macherial and there were no more missile skills to train. But after 4.5 years, I can honestly say im pretty embarrased at my career/attributes. Im also jealous of my alts attributes whos a achura. She has 28perc/26intel/24will/24mem/7char with LVl 5 skills / +4 implants, where as for me, I have 26in,20perc,20will,29mem,22char with +4s.. And you know whats pathetic is my career. Ts "Industry/Merchandisers/Engineer". IF I woulda know my career would be that, (since they didnt have that display feature in 2003) I woulda so went the other way and I only have 700k SP in Industry! But I did go that way for a reason. In 2003, it was all a rush, a rush to start training skills, a rush to get that head start in eve. I mean I was even ****ed off that I got eve 1 day after the euros did because of the release in US. So I went that route to get I think Electronics 3 or 4. ( I wish i woulda gotten Frigate Lvl 4 right off that back. Another reason I got high intel/memory was for learning skills and engineering. At the time there wasnt hardly any missile skills and there werent many ships at all. So I didnt really think that too far ahead but you know, I didnt think i would stay in this game for almost 5 years when I made my character. So the whole point of this story is, are there any plans to allow veterans to AT LEAST change their career path (which is very doable roleplaying wise, people change careers all the time). At least give us that if you won't allow us to change our initial attribute selection. I think making a character permant for so long shouldnt be. People make mistakes and I for one had to suffer it for 5 years. If you don't have any plans, make them now because careers should be changable at least once in a players life time. I would honestly pay a fee, real or ingame money wise, to allow me to change my initial attributes/career once. You can do something with this and make it possible. Edit> Let me add that I thought career was the first line of decision making in the character process. I have forgotten of ancestry since its been so long since I made a character. Let me add that what I ment in the respec was the ability to change ancestry along with career. Me and my 5 base willpower points agree with everything said above.
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.23 22:14:00 - [87] Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 23/02/2008 22:14:41 It doesn't matter who you are in the game, on the forums any ! can smack like as if he actually knew something. I agree with you Tank, but I doubt CCP will ever do such a thing. Maybe add implants that go beyond +4, but work similar to: -5cha, +4int =P Help promote the "boost low-sec"-project.
Crax McGee Quam Singulari	Posted - 2008.02.23 22:33:00 - [88] /sighned
Deira Lenia The Chaotic Order Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.02.23 22:35:00 - [89] Your complaining about something you did 5 years ago and suggest a feature to fix that fault to CCP. So what, CCP patched in some senseless words. For someone with your reputation (tbh, nice job on the lowsec miner) I did not expect such low-class whine. Like you posted you wanted to be the best when you started. After 5 years you concluded that you are not the best. And are practicaly demanding CCP to give you the option to become the best. You sir, Are a numpty. -- Real men corpse tank Fallout Project Forums The Chaotic Order Forums
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.23 22:50:00 - [90] Originally by: Deira Lenia Your complaining about something you did 5 years ago and suggest a feature to fix that fault to CCP. So what, CCP patched in some senseless words. For someone with your reputation (tbh, nice job on the lowsec miner) I did not expect such low-class whine. Like you posted you wanted to be the best when you started. After 5 years you concluded that you are not the best. And are practicaly demanding CCP to give you the option to become the best. You sir, Are a numpty. And you are daft? He didn't say anything about being "the best". There was no way to predict what the choices you made 4-5 years ago would lead to. Added that to the fact that several training fields had their primary/secondary attributes reassinged at some time to "balance" that exact thing we're talking about. It's not absurd to have the option of a limited "respec" (yuk word)... not change the race entirely... profession, bloodline could do the trick. Be it a once per 2-3-4 years option. I wouldn't change mine even though I have more charisma than I'd like heh... I kinda like being a special forces ...artist I would probably change my alt's though.

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