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Kushion
Anti Sweden Defense Force
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Posted - 2008.02.21 05:58:00 -
[61]
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I will not go to extreme lengths to convince anyone this isn't a scam. For 6.2 bills this just isn't worth my time.
Also I took the liberty of providing only info I deemed necessary and ignored the official IPO template.
It's a two-way street. You may feel like it isn't worth the effort for only 6b - but the investors may decide it isn't worth the risk. And you really haven't given much in the way of assurances of any kind. I'd sooner transfer isk to one of the 10x guys spamming in Jita than invest in this IPO with the details you've given.
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My own interest in mission running is limited. I've already named my mission running alt.
You spent 4.6b on a mission running ship(s) but your mission running alt has 0.69 Caldari Navy standing?
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Correct.
I'm a bit put off by your failed courier missions. You entered a contract with these players; but essentially stole from them because it was a better deal. What's to stop you from doing the same with this IPO? You aren't even putting up collateral in this IPO... unlike the courier missions you ripped off. We're to believe that you'll rip off THOSE people, but not the people here in MD that you respect so much?
Originally by: "YouGotRipped"
2. I'm sorry, you're just not among the 2 persons on these forums I have consideration for. Better luck next life.
Oh, right. You don't respect us. Any sympathy I had disappeared with this. I'm done with this thread. I'd say good luck with your scam IPO, but luck won't help you here...
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.02.21 07:10:00 -
[62]
Edited by: YouGotRipped on 21/02/2008 07:12:34
Hahah, first of all I'm not desperate to get the funding.
I would have proceeded with the plan even without whatever funds have been gathered so far. But it helped.
Neither did I expect the market regulars to invest or behave any other way then they did. After all, my own business will put theirs out of order. But this is just a matter of time.
As for my name... I assure you it was worth it every letter.
If you people were a little more intelligent you'd have realized that my name bears no importance to my success as a trader. Thus you'd focus on debating the business plan instead.
Much to my amusement you've proven to me what I wanted to see.
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.02.21 07:41:00 -
[63]
Edited by: YouGotRipped on 21/02/2008 07:42:46
Originally by: Kushion
Originally by: "YouGotRipped"
2. I'm sorry, you're just not among the 2 persons on these forums I have consideration for. Better luck next life.
Oh, right. You don't respect us. Any sympathy I had disappeared with this. I'm done with this thread. I'd say good luck with your scam IPO, but luck won't help you here...
Since when business were conducted based on simpathy?
As for the failed contracts, every game I play is a challenge to explore the whole system, master it and exploit it because it's just that, a game.
Having promised something to someone is another thing entirely.
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.02.21 08:01:00 -
[64]
Now, there are 5200 shares left for taking and 4 days to go.
Price is 1,000,000 per share, retail sale.
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.02.21 23:32:00 -
[65]
I've already started testing the markets and results are satisfactory.
Min guaranteed return changed to 7%.
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Rhiraven
Gallente
The Jacktar Camorra
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Posted - 2008.02.22 02:34:00 -
[66]
I don't believe people invested in this. Honestly. I think he's lying.
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Daeva Vios
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Posted - 2008.02.22 04:02:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Daeva Vios on 22/02/2008 04:03:12
I believe this troll has been living off the MD community's generosity for too long.
It should be encouraged to find another food source.
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Raskor
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Posted - 2008.02.22 04:26:00 -
[68]
Originally by: YouGotRipped
As for the failed courier contracts, every game I play is a challenge to explore the whole system, master it and exploit it because it's just that, a game.
Having promised something to someone is another thing entirely.
By accepting a courier contract, you have made an implied promise to deliver the goods. But rather you prefer to rob the player when you discover the collateral requested was less than what you consider fair market value.
That's all well and good and fair play within the context of the game, but it does show your true character.
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Myrdyr
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Posted - 2008.02.22 05:25:00 -
[69]
Originally by: YouGotRipped
Thus you'd focus on debating the business plan instead.
Your business plan is ****. You can make 1bil/day in Jita with perfect refine just from outbidding Delakut, if you're active enough. Takes more than 48 order slots though, and only lasts until Delakut goes above mineral price on every item you're messing with.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.02.22 06:13:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Raskor
Originally by: YouGotRipped
As for the failed courier contracts, every game I play is a challenge to explore the whole system, master it and exploit it because it's just that, a game.
Having promised something to someone is another thing entirely.
By accepting a courier contract, you have made an implied promise to deliver the goods. But rather you prefer to rob the player when you discover the collateral requested was less than what you consider fair market value.
That's all well and good and fair play within the context of the game, but it does show your true character.
Sorry, but this is ridiculous. If someone is so stupid that they don't charge enough collateral then only an idiot would deliver it instead of just taking the items.
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.02.22 06:54:00 -
[71]
Edited by: YouGotRipped on 22/02/2008 06:54:31
Originally by: Myrdyr
Originally by: YouGotRipped
Thus you'd focus on debating the business plan instead.
[...] and only lasts until Delakut goes above mineral price on every item you're messing with.
Thank you for coming to the right conclusion but please don't think while writing. I also suggest reading original thread more carefully
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.02.22 09:32:00 -
[72]
Just minutes ago the corp lost its flagship - a faction fitted CNR worth 4.4 bills in a high sec ganking by TRI.
I feel I am compelled to report this as it will increase the mission time drastically and bears some relevance to the success of this IPO. (I see you people already made up your mind anyway)
In the light of recent events I might need to train corporation contracting though and issue a high number of small contracts to move whatever items I acquire between different regions.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.02.22 10:32:00 -
[73]
Originally by: YouGotRipped
Just minutes ago the corp lost its flagship - a faction fitted CNR worth 4.4 bills in a high sec ganking by TRI.
Great post.
Would read again.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.02.22 14:02:00 -
[74]
Originally by: YouGotRipped
Just minutes ago the corp lost its flagship - a faction fitted CNR worth 4.4 bills in a high sec ganking by TRI.
It would take a considerable force to take down a 4.4b manned CNR. Is there a killmail available for this as I imagine you must have been carrying some pretty insane valued goods for them to even consider taking you down. I would expect they would need at least 10-20 pilots (at minimum) to take you down before concord arrived and target jammed everyone..
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043
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Roguehalo
Caldari
RH Ship Brokers
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Posted - 2008.02.22 14:19:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Ricdic
Originally by: YouGotRipped
Just minutes ago the corp lost its flagship - a faction fitted CNR worth 4.4 bills in a high sec ganking by TRI.
It would take a considerable force to take down a 4.4b manned CNR. Is there a killmail available for this as I imagine you must have been carrying some pretty insane valued goods for them to even consider taking you down. I would expect they would need at least 10-20 pilots (at minimum) to take you down before concord arrived and target jammed everyone..
Tri have been suicide ganking quite a lot of high sec faction fitted mission runners recently. Dunno about the one mentioned in this thread though.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.02.22 14:28:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Ricdic
Originally by: YouGotRipped
Just minutes ago the corp lost its flagship - a faction fitted CNR worth 4.4 bills in a high sec ganking by TRI.
It would take a considerable force to take down a 4.4b manned CNR. Is there a killmail available for this as I imagine you must have been carrying some pretty insane valued goods for them to even consider taking you down. I would expect they would need at least 10-20 pilots (at minimum) to take you down before concord arrived and target jammed everyone..
As im sure most of us know, if TRI had gotten a faction fitted faction BS kill it would have been quickly posted to their KB. Any corp/allaince would have done it quickly for the pure epeen of it.
With that said, let me provide some lack of proof to the OP's statement. Ok maybe a bit of the benifit of the doubt should be given the OP, maybe its a corpm8s CNR that is in an alt corp, maybe its not a high sec gank, maybe....your just full of bovine scatology.
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Please note that the CNR kill I linked is from the 16th, and was the most recent faction BS kill on the TRI KB.
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:00:00 -
[77]
2008.02.22 08:49
they'll post it alright.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:17:00 -
[78]
Originally by: YouGotRipped
I don't have the mail (my friend probably deleted it)
I call shenanigans.
Killmails aren't sent anymore, all your losses and kills are all on your character sheet, and can't be just up and deleted.
And your friend may have a deleted a mail if there was one? So you're saying you're breaking the EULA by having more than just yourself use your account?
You just keep piling on the reasons that you'll never get any real investors, eh?
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:18:00 -
[79]
Edited by: YouGotRipped on 22/02/2008 15:19:37
Found it in the char info window.
2008.02.22 08:49:00
Victim: ******
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Ewigkeit
Destroyed: Raven Navy Issue
System: Aramachi
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 38148
Involved parties:
Name: Scythes
Security: 0.8
Alliance: Triumvirate.
Corp: coracao ardente
Ship: Raven
Weapon: Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Damage Done: 16289
Name: Zatharas (laid the final blow)
Security: -1.6
Alliance: Triumvirate.
Corp: coracao ardente
Ship: Megathron
Weapon: Neutron Blaster Cannon II
Damage Done: 13578
Name: hybridundertaker
Security: -2.1
Alliance: Triumvirate.
Corp: coracao ardente
Ship: Armageddon
Weapon: Armageddon
Damage Done: 8281
Destroyed items:
Paradise Cruise Missile, Qty: 3883 (Cargo)
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Qty: 3
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Capacitor Control Circuit II
Gist A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Hammerhead II, Qty: 4 (Drone Bay)
Wrath Cruise Missile, Qty: 120
Power Diagnostic System II
Capacitor Control Circuit I, Qty: 2
True Sansha Heavy Nosferatu
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Brokara's Modified Power Diagnostic System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System, Qty: 2
Dropped items:
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Qty: 4
Wrath Cruise Missile, Qty: 7995 (Cargo)
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field, Qty: 2
Hammerhead II, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay)
Wrath Cruise Missile, Qty: 90
Guristas Diamond Tag (Cargo)
Power Diagnostic System II
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
From what he said as he exited the station a whole Concord fleet was already at the scene and due to heavy lag he couldn't do anything.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:21:00 -
[80]
Strange it's not on any of their killboards.
A kill like that would have been posted before the loot was even scooped.
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:37:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Originally by: YouGotRipped
I don't have the mail (my friend probably deleted it)
I call shenanigans.
Killmails aren't sent anymore, all your losses and kills are all on your character sheet, and can't be just up and deleted.
And your friend may have a deleted a mail if there was one? So you're saying you're breaking the EULA by having more than just yourself use your account?
You just keep piling on the reasons that you'll never get any real investors, eh?
You really think I give a damn about potential investors especially now?
I'm no longer taking investments. This IPO is closed.
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Daeva Vios
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:45:00 -
[82]
Originally by: YouGotRipped
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Originally by: YouGotRipped
I don't have the mail (my friend probably deleted it)
I call shenanigans.
Killmails aren't sent anymore, all your losses and kills are all on your character sheet, and can't be just up and deleted.
And your friend may have a deleted a mail if there was one? So you're saying you're breaking the EULA by having more than just yourself use your account?
You just keep piling on the reasons that you'll never get any real investors, eh?
You really think I give a damn about potential investors especially now?
I'm no longer taking investments. This IPO is closed.
This attitude is why you fail.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:46:00 -
[83]
The only way you would have died to those 3 battleships was if hardeners weren't on. In that sense you would have also had no shield boosting abilities (ie no-one at computer) therefore your 4.1b CNR is worth no more than a normal Raven (in terms of difficulty to hit).
Now, if you were AFK well its your/your friend's fault
If you guys were lagged out and once undock finished you were already in a pod that's petitionable.
But with 3 DG invul fields, and a Gist A Type XL there's no way 3 battleships could take you down inside the 20 second window it takes Concord to arrive in a 0.5.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.02.22 16:01:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Ricdic
The only way you would have died to those 3 battleships was if hardeners weren't on. In that sense you would have also had no shield boosting abilities (ie no-one at computer) therefore your 4.1b CNR is worth no more than a normal Raven (in terms of difficulty to hit).
Now, if you were AFK well its your/your friend's fault
If you guys were lagged out and once undock finished you were already in a pod that's petitionable.
But with 3 DG invul fields, and a Gist A Type XL there's no way 3 battleships could take you down inside the 20 second window it takes Concord to arrive in a 0.5.
Excellent idea. I guess my list of people I have consideration for is 3 long now.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.02.22 17:52:00 -
[85]
Hearing of a 4+ bil ship being popped makes me smile. I love it when people lose massive amounts of money to gankings. It means more money for us traders.
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.02.22 18:29:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Shadarle
Hearing of a 4+ bil ship being popped makes me smile. I love it when people lose massive amounts of money to gankings. It means more money for us traders.
As long as you smile from time to time I suppose it's alright.
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Tachypnea
Blue Moon Rising
Blood and Steel
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Posted - 2008.02.22 18:30:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Shadarle
Hearing of a 4+ bil ship being popped makes me smile. I love it when people lose massive amounts of money to gankings. It means more money for us traders.
I love Shadarle's posts.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.02.22 18:42:00 -
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Shame it was made up.
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.02.23 20:12:00 -
[89]
Cleaned
OP please do not troll your own thread, whilst some of the regulars need to go back to discussion rather than fanning the flame wars.
Mitnal,
Community Representative
EVE Online
CCP Games
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Readmymind
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.04.05 05:06:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Readmymind on 05/04/2008 05:14:35
I was thinking about relaunching at least in part the operation here.
I would like to start really, really small for the fun of it and later if the time allows it I will expand.
Any investors interested?
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