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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.19 20:29:00 -
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Hey jojo mind running your caldari ship though the amarr lvl5? maybe its the mission that brokered.
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Mark Lucius
Kinetic Vector Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.19 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo
its not rocket science but you prove that you perhaps need brain surgery.
Take your own suggestion, because I have no trouble running Amarr Lvl 5's. ---
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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.19 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Mark Lucius
Originally by: Jonny MoJo
its not rocket science but you prove that you perhaps need brain surgery.
Take your own suggestion, because I have no trouble running Amarr Lvl 5's.
With Amarr ships?
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.19 20:49:00 -
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Post with your main, drop the spoiled brat attitude, and maybe some of us might help educate you on how not to fail.
Unless of course your just trolling... oh wait 
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Mark Lucius
Kinetic Vector Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.19 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo With Amarr ships?
Ofcourse. You think the Amarr ships in my signatures are just for decoration? Oh wait....you do.... ---
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Ronsonol
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Posted - 2008.02.19 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo
Originally by: Mark Lucius Use more friends till you can complete the mission. It's not rocket science.
its not rocket science but you prove that you perhaps need brain surgery.
I have already saud I have no problems doing lvl5's with Caldari, Minmatar or Gallente. I am asking how the hec are you ment to do Amarr Lvl5's with Amarr ships?
I think this guys problem is self evident. His problem isn't fitting a ship. he seems to be a friendless asshat, or if he isn't he should be. Lets all stop giving him advice. His original post claims that he wants a discussion. However, his behavior suggests a need to vent his spleen on people to far away to tool him for his childish behavior.
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Disco Bum
Gallente Scream Discoteque
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Posted - 2008.02.19 23:57:00 -
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I support Jonny MoJo 
Yes he can be anoying, but this time he has a point. Amarr don't have the option of passive tanking - which is "must-have" in lvl 5 missions.
Don't discuss OP - discuss his topic.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.02.20 00:09:00 -
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Johnny, you seriously need to buy a clue, or at least, half a dozen.
Passive buffer tanked ships (Hint, Compensation skills FTW!), with logistics drones doing the repairing, surely to god, a good group of geddons buffer tanked with passive plates would suffice, or ofc, your just complaining about something for the sake of complaining.
I don't give a damn about a drake soloing them, if that pilot wants to spend hours doing it, let him.
I dont give a damn about minmatar's passive solo tanking, if they want to do it let them do it.
I dont give a damn about your passive tanked gallente ships, they MOSTLY use the same tactics as i posted above (Hint, 5 large remote repair drones = win!)
Go do something useful and i will get off your damn case, untill then i will continue to say that you need gagged, or at least this signature locked aswell as your old one, i dont give a damn when you made the chars or when you made the sigs or when you filled the sigs in, your knowingfully posting with a character that hasnt had them locked yet when your old char got them locked.
What you got for me next?
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.02.20 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Disco Bum I support Jonny MoJo 
Yes he can be anoying, but this time he has a point. Amarr don't have the option of passive tanking - which is "must-have" in lvl 5 missions.
Don't discuss OP - discuss his topic.
Are you insane? Are plates active
As for the "must have" in level 5's...try friends 
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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero Passive buffer tanked ships (Hint, Compensation skills FTW!), with logistics drones doing the repairing, surely to god, a good group of geddons buffer tanked with passive plates would suffice, or ofc, your just complaining about something for the sake of complaining.
Excellent. Geddons buffer tanking via logistic drones.
Say... how do these geddons fire with 0 cap?
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Dianeces
Minmatar Repo Industries
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Posted - 2008.02.20 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo
Originally by: Blane Xero Passive buffer tanked ships (Hint, Compensation skills FTW!), with logistics drones doing the repairing, surely to god, a good group of geddons buffer tanked with passive plates would suffice, or ofc, your just complaining about something for the sake of complaining.
Excellent. Geddons buffer tanking via logistic drones.
Say... how do these geddons fire with 0 cap?
Oh, I'd imagine the same way Gallente ships do. By shooting in between neut cycles.
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Richyie
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Posted - 2008.02.20 00:41:00 -
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erm .. . ... how about a passive tanked damnation ? best tank in the game
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Seishomaru
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Posted - 2008.02.20 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo
Originally by: Blane Xero Passive buffer tanked ships (Hint, Compensation skills FTW!), with logistics drones doing the repairing, surely to god, a good group of geddons buffer tanked with passive plates would suffice, or ofc, your just complaining about something for the sake of complaining.
Excellent. Geddons buffer tanking via logistic drones.
Say... how do these geddons fire with 0 cap?
how about usign a cap booster? A paladin can carry enough of them to 30 minute usage. For god sake everyoen here have already done it! If you suck, and be sure YOU DO SUCK, its not our problem.
LEvel 5 were not made to be easy solo.
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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 00:49:37
Originally by: Seishomaru
Originally by: Jonny MoJo
Originally by: Blane Xero Passive buffer tanked ships (Hint, Compensation skills FTW!), with logistics drones doing the repairing, surely to god, a good group of geddons buffer tanked with passive plates would suffice, or ofc, your just complaining about something for the sake of complaining.
Excellent. Geddons buffer tanking via logistic drones.
Say... how do these geddons fire with 0 cap?
how about usign a cap booster? A paladin can carry enough of them to 30 minute usage. For god sake everyoen here have already done it! If you suck, and be sure YOU DO SUCK, its not our problem.
LEvel 5 were not made to be easy solo.
It is not me that sucks - its the neut towers.
And how does this geddon suddenly turn into a paladin? And how does this paladin get 30 mins of cap booster charges? Thats a good cargo expanded haulerful worth!
Oh and Reading 4tl as I never said they were meant to be soloed. Dont you know that?
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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 00:52:17
Originally by: Nova Fox Edited by: Nova Fox on 19/02/2008 19:28:00 Edited by: Nova Fox on 19/02/2008 19:27:19 active hadeners > passive reinforcers any day of the week the passives are so low even with maxed out skill its barely enough handle lvl4s
Im quite sure stupidity isnt going to complete lvl 5s either jojo
Hohoho - You edited oyu post as you said they were not good enough for lvl3's. Then I show you a 0-cap 100% passive drake setup that does tank lvl5's, and in a group of drakes, have enough dps to win lvl5's quite easaly. Now you re-edit your post? For shame
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.02.20 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo If it is teamwork - I am asking the bloody question in the first post if people whold read it - What amarr ships for lvl5's should a pro-amarr gang use now that respawning neut towers change targets at will?
Guardians have a cap transfer bonus for a reason.
Besides, if the only argument you can make is active towers + active weapons = death by neuts, you should really be complaining about Gallente as well. Personally I think you are just trying to get a rise on the forums with your signature.
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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 00:58:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 00:58:20
Originally by: Vitrael
Originally by: Jonny MoJo If it is teamwork - I am asking the bloody question in the first post if people whold read it - What amarr ships for lvl5's should a pro-amarr gang use now that respawning neut towers change targets at will?
Guardians have a cap transfer bonus for a reason.
Besides, if the only argument you can make is active towers + active weapons = death by neuts, you should really be complaining about Gallente as well. Personally I think you are just trying to get a rise on the forums with your signature.
Passive tanked droneships can tank as part of a group in lvl5's. Guardians would get neuted in missions. This is only due to the recend trinity patch change where neut towers cycle at will, in the same was a POS neut cycles at attackers. This hurts amarr as amarr lack passive combat ships.
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.02.20 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo Passive tanked droneships can tank as part of a group in lvl5's. Guardians would get neuted in missions. This is only due to the recend trinity patch change where neut towers cycle at will, in the same was a POS neut cycles at attackers. This hurts amarr as amarr lack passive combat ships.
If the Guardian is getting neuted then the damage dealers aren't. Somebody is going to have cap sometime.
Excuse me, passive tanked drone ships? I would ask you to give me an example of a Gallente drone ship that can tank enough damage to do a level 5 mission, but you can't, so I won't bother. (Don't torture me with a passive Myrmidon setup).
Here's an idea: use a cap booster. Do level four missions (they're easier and more profitable). Fly another race.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 01:20:00 -
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First, I would like to mention that not every ship has to be a solo-pwnmobile. As a matter of fact, NONE of them should be.
While we are at it, a properly fit abaddon has potential to be passively tanked to a point where a team of guardians can give him cap/armor if needed...
a Group of guardians will be able to provide each other with the tank/support needed, in the rare case that each neut tower picks a different guardian, they can use their insanly powerful 'cap from nowhere' technique, and create what cap is needed.
On the chance that they cant.. well, they suck as pilots. Ive noticed that 99.9% of people on these forums have a signature. If you are one of the 0.1% that doesnot have a sig, copy this into your sig, and display your defiance towards people with sigs. |

Drama Kirlan
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.02.20 01:59:00 -
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Oh for gods sake
Firstly given the amount of dps many of the lv 5's give out the only real choice to tank is a nighthawk with a logistics ship giving it shields and even then I've watched 2 nighthawks just go pop even with support. There is no way in hell that a passive tanked gallente ship can reliably tank them.
Secondly if you decide to go try amour tank then the amarr have 2 of the best ships for it. The abbadon and guardian. If the guardian can't keep you with enough cap to run the hardeners then you have a **** guardian pilot.
Thirdly why the **** do you even want to bother with guns for the most part. Your a bloody tank for gods sake. Think a nighhawk does enough dps to finish a lv 5 in a sensable amount of time.
You want to run lv 5's as amarr then try taking a geddon fit for max sustainable dps with rep drones an abbadon with a mix of plates and hardeners to tank with and a guardian with 1 cap transpher and the rest remote reps. Level 5's are ment to be hard and done in groups.
Cap use on lasers is a racial problem that you need to learn to deal with just like the gallente have to deal with low range on blasters, Min have to deal with poorer tanks in general and caldari had to deal with all the problems that sheild tanks bring. I'm currently in a corp where the top pilot flys amarr and tbh I'm bloody scared of his ships. They eat people alive.
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Vasili vonHolst
Minmatar Gargamel's Lair
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Posted - 2008.02.20 02:05:00 -
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amarr need to be nerfed ------------------------------------------------ Movie + Trillion ISK In damage inflicted on the Care Bear community. |

Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.02.20 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Fina on 20/02/2008 02:09:36
Originally by: Jonny MoJo
Amarr ships do not passive tank or have capless weapons, so what ships are a pro-amarr gang going to use?
Remote reps, remote cap transfer, logistic drones.... If you only want to do the mission with ammar you ought to have to bring more people.
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2008.02.20 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Cipher7 on 20/02/2008 03:10:54 I think the OP has a good point.
Laser users should be as viable as Projectile users.
Right now lasers are a gimp weapon system.
I think it's high time CCP balanced Amarr/Lasers to be AS viable in PvP/PvE as any other weapon system.
First off their cap use should be the same as rails. The counterbalance is that rails have a better damage type. Kin/Therm > EM/Therm
Second off the cap bonus on Amarr ships should be removed and replaced with laser bonus.
How would you like it if they took off the Projectile ROF bonus on a Minmatar ship and replaced it with "%5 increase to ammo capacity of Projectile weapons?"
I think it's about friggin time Amarr became a viable race.
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N1fty
Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.02.20 03:42:00 -
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Everyone above me trolled by Jonny MoJo. --
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.20 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tamia Clant
Originally by: Jonny MoJo
Originally by: Julius Romanus Archon
Fighters dont use cap ^_^
No Carriers allowed though jumpgate :(
Don't accept the mission if it sends you to high-sec then. Level 5 missions are meant to be done by capital ships, or with coordinated groups of players. If you can do the entire mission solo with a fully-passive drake (which I doubt, I'd like to see your setup), well that's great for you, which brings me to my other point:
If you can fly a drake that can tank level 5 missions, why did you even started this thread anyway? Because you can do the mission in a caldari ship and not in an amarr one? Welcome to EVE. Caldari are (and will probably always be) the best race to run missions in, that's just how it is. Each race has their strong and weak points, Amarr just happen to be weak against energy neutralizers. Either deal with it or train for another race. (which you seemed to have done already)
i think he means acceleration gates, which from what i know they can't...
as for the drake yes a fully passive fit drake can tank some of the level 5s*. (and that was with my **** skills)
*well that was the first wave, someone *cough*row*cough* triggered the second spawn (20 fighters) about 1/2 through the first spawn.
oh and that was after row soloed one with an abaddon....
max cap recharge buffer tanks with remote reps for amarr ships i guess.
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CCP Mitnal

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Posted - 2008.02.20 04:48:00 -
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Moved to Missions.
Mitnal, Community Representative
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BamseTheDane
Minmatar Conisor Excavations Syndicate Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7 Edited by: Cipher7 on 20/02/2008 03:10:54 *Rabblerabblerabble whine whine whine*
The only people whining about Amarrian ships, are the ******s, who doesn't know how to fly them properly... I fly both Amarrian and Minmatarian ships, and the Amarr BS' wins over Minmatars.. A fully T2 PulseGeddon just buttrapes a bloddy ACPest.. Minmatar are meant for speed and hit 'n run tacs, Amarr are meant for the most evil armor tank and WTFBBQ-fry everyone with lazors.. And with the comming buff to EM/EXP damage on Shield and Armor, just stop the whining already.. Amarr got some of the best PVP ships and decent PVE ships aswell.. Curse, still pwns every other Recon and the Geddon can dish out 1100-1200 DPS for a freaking Tier 1 Battleship.. Oh and for the OP: lvl5s are meant to be in groups... You say the neut towers switch after 10sec.. Get 2 Guardians, and fit them for recharge.. 10sec without cap is nothing..
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Royaldo
Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Royaldo on 20/02/2008 16:59:20 Gallente have ships for this. Myrmidon can do. Again passive shield tank.
He isnt asking about your pvp fits, he is asking if anyone knows a way to do lvl5's with amarr ships only group.
Lvl5 are the hardest pve part ingame. Do not compare to any complex. If you have not tried them, i suggest you dont open your mouth about it.
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Cersei
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.02.20 19:30:00 -
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How many neut towers are there usually? And how much do they drain? It's not hard to set up a pair of 2 guardian to have 300 surplus cap/sec or more.
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Agif
Templar Republic R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.21 01:30:00 -
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Only solo ship to run lvl 5's are :-
1) Nighhawk 2) Vulture
Everything else req's teamwork and as a MMO i think Teamwork is obvious. But if you have tried with Amarr BS's and sorts let me know.
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