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Mara Rinn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.02.25 05:37:00 -
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The best way to maximise your earning potential is to get someone else to help you haul. I reckon you could split half with the hauler and still make more than mining into your hold and warping back to station every load.
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Keri Rydell
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Posted - 2008.02.25 07:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Tinker1947
Mack have 2 ice harvesters that have double out put,,,you get 4 units of ice as apposed to 3 from a hulk....Mack are used with a secure can and a haulier, my 3 mack turn over around 135 units a hour with a 4th alt hauling in a itty mk5 fully expanded. The Hulks 3 of them with 17k m3 cargo space haul them selves ever 25 minuts with 15 units per hulk....thats 90 a hour, but i only have to pop in from my workshop ever 30 minuts to do the mouse clicks, and the end of a working day (after DT) 5 hours nets me 450 units every day...thats 75 million a day
No need for 17Km3 hold - 15 and a bit is more than enough. With that Mack setup of yours you do count the hauler alt in the gang, right? Granted, he/she might not be a hulk pilot yet but without him you wouldn't have secured 135 icicles/hour. And this set up means work...  I prefer 30 icicles per hulk per hour having to touch your ship only every 26-ish minutes. I guess I'm lazy but I only ice mine to feed the POS 
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notaway
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.02.25 10:46:00 -
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Now u guys lost me with this math and multiple alt stuff--I always thought u could just have 1 char working at a time unless u bought further accounts. So I have one account which includes my main and two alts which are untrained.. Can u pay for another account and use one of these alts? Or r u really saying u have 4 accounts with 4 main chars?
I already have the mammoth for hauling and I have only mined ore and can use jetcan mining with no worry of theft but had thought to get a mack at some point to ice mine as those are always in demand. But I guess ur saying the hulk is still better even with the bonus or is just more flexible?
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Neena Ailichi
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Posted - 2008.02.25 12:45:00 -
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My 0.02 isk: I'm michi implant short from having perfect yield, corp mates haul for me, and refini is perfect too. Got bored of mining for hours, trained to Ishtar / t2 ogres and started doing lvl 4's. I'm making MUCH more money, and if I had patience to mission as much as mine I'd make more money per week than some of the top miners in our corp (excluding top 2 who have like 10 hulk alts or something :)
Hisec mining = not worth it.
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Tinker1947
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Posted - 2008.02.26 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Tinker1947 on 26/02/2008 19:41:02
i have 5 accounts, 1 of them close to mining barge lvl 5 then the other skills to max Hulk/Mack mining, so atm i have 3 macks mining with 4th hauling, or 3 hulks mining with a 25 minute turn round when i can afk and work in the daytime, watch football in the evening or use my main to do exploration ect. the reason for ice mining, the ice riods don't run out so there's no moving just mine away. if you can run other acounts the isk will roll in.
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Ikserak tai
Caldari
Ghengis Tia Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.26 20:07:00 -
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There are various 2D map links that will get you the regional maps you need to find a sweet system to mine in. I was able to find a 0.9 system with rich ore, nobody in it but us miners. Its only 3 jumps from major systems but as a deadend no one goes there. Try www.ombeve.co.uk for Ombey's great maps. Or just google "2D EVE Maps".
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Balcura
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Posted - 2008.02.27 21:29:00 -
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Basically there are a ton of things to look at in the posts so far.
1) With your hulk you need to find a place to sit and mine while not being all that picky about what you mine.
2) You may wish to set your ship up a little differently. With 2 expander 2's and 2 cargo opt rig 2's you'll have an 18727.2 m3 cargo hold, if you are actively mining you can easily add 5 GSC's and cycle your lasers to push you m3 total to 23227.2 (or just under a can per haul).
3) Mining drones will help your mining yeild.
4) Be aware of the 5% base tax from refining and think about missions and connections to help reduce it.
5) Some of the mining implants are inexpensive and will help in your yeild.
6) Don't use your mining lasers all on the same roid (some people still do).
ANY miner with your skill set should be making well over 10-15mil per hr even with the trips factored in.
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Jim Nakamura
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: notaway
Now u guys lost me with this math and multiple alt stuff--I always thought u could just have 1 char working at a time unless u bought further accounts. So I have one account which includes my main and two alts which are untrained.. Can u pay for another account and use one of these alts? Or r u really saying u have 4 accounts with 4 main chars?
Yes, lots of people have multiple, separate acounts, each with one active character on. (Plus, quite often, a couple of untrained alts, who do nothing except sit in a station in a different region so people can do quick price checks with them).
Since you can buy GTCs with ISK, and two characters working together can earn more than twice as much money as one character working solo, it does actually make some degree of sense to have your own little gang of alts going on.
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notaway
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.02.29 00:34:00 -
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Tinker--saw another thread and a better reason to use a hulk for ice mining is that a hulk can do almost as well but still can tank rats, unlike the mack which apparently has a cpu problem per the poster.
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Meromorphic
AFK
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Posted - 2008.02.29 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Neena Ailichi
...if I had patience to mission as much as mine I'd make more money per week than some of the top miners in our corp
You've hit a nail on the head. Isk/hour is deceptive. What is often more useful as a measure of what to do is isk per unit of attention span. If you can make 20M an hour (say) from mission running, but can only stand to do it for 2 hours, that is in the end the same as 10M an hour mining when you can stand to do that for 4 hours. Of course the issue is complicated by RL opportunity cost, but I think the point stands.
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