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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.02.24 07:52:00 -
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You're trading NPC goods, that's what you did wrong. Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained |

Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.02.24 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Letias Unless you are going to tell him what to trade why tell him npc goods are wrong? For new players with very little money they work well, yes he could make more and yes it is just as easy, most people do start there.
Why don't you tell him then.
I at least gave him good advice, to stop trading npc goods. Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained |

Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Nuttski It isn't surprising only the same few people tend to post in here. Attitude shown to any new posters is appaling.
If you want a babysitting or hand holding service you can pay me 100 mil per lame answer. Otherwise grow a backbone and accept straight answers. Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained |

Shadarle
LI0NS Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.23 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Imbrasus Lekarnaum What good does it do if he knows what he is talking about if all he does is shoot down people who ask questions? Wow.. that takes a lot of hard work and inside knowledge to insult people he doesn't know in what is essentially just a game.
It actually doesn't take any work at all, it's quite easy.
My first post said all that was needed and was the most honest post in this thread. It was the answer to the OP's question. If you call that shooting someone down then obviously it is a definition issue for you, not a problem for me.
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Shadarle
LI0NS Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.23 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Pink Lemonade Which in fact it wasn't. The guy was asking about game mechanics - why don't his sell and buy orders work with NPC goods - and your answer did nothing to clarify to him what he's doing wrong.
What he was doing wrong was dealing in NPC goods. Instead of telling him how to trade NPC good correctly, which would not help him at all as it is not even remotely profitable, I told him something that would allow him to grow as a player and actually make ISK. I answered the actual question being asked, which was "what am I doing wrong"... telling him how to trade npc goods would be a dis-service and would actually waste more of his time.
It would be like someone asking why they can't make any money running missions in his Raven and I tell them to stop running level 1 missions, someone else explains to them that they should find higher quality level 1 agents.
Higher quality agents would get him a tiny bit more profit. Finding higher level agents would increase his profitability exponentially. Which is a more helpful reply, telling him how to do a low profit task better or telling him to stop doing that low profit task and to do something more profitable altogether that he didn't even realize he should be doing instead.
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Shadarle
LI0NS Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.24 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pink Lemonade He wasn't asking "what am I doing wrong in general" or "help me be a better trader". He had a specific question about game mechanics of trading using the NPC created market - "what am i doing wrong with NPC buy/sell orders". When I come to the forums and ask a question about specific game mechanic I am not looking for responses telling me "simply don't do it, it is a waste of time" and then telling me that's all I need to know. Advice of this kind while is honest from your point of view did not answer his question as is evidenced by the guy coming back to this thread and posing the same question again.
Dealing in NPC goods is only wrong from your point of view because you play with the specific goal in mind of making profit and you are so focused on it that you do not see that other people might be playing EVE for other reasons one of which is understanding how the game works and exploring new activities. Would you believe me if I said I have 100+ bil recently liquidated and have an alt that has done NPC trade routes and did a lot of other low-income stuff just because i wanted to do something new in game? No you would not. Because from your point of view it makes absolutely no sense so why would anyone else want to do this, make less profit/time? And this is how you answered OP's question. You assumed that like yourself he is seeking to make more profit, hence his question is really an undercover "how do i make more profit through trading" kind of question which is wasn't. On this ground you claimed that your answer is the only honest and correct one. But if he does not play the game like you do, guess what? Not only did you not answer his question, but your answer would be frustrating to him because it tells him that his exploration of this particular activity is wrong. This is what other posters here picked up on when they said you aren't being helpful. And of course underneath all this lies your belief that your way of playing the game is the correct way, hence you concluded that your answer is the only honest one.
Excuse me for not reading most of that, it seemed quite repetitive. In the future can you please condense like thoughts in a single sentence or two... my time is far too valuable to waste it reading a rant about you not liking my advice. If you don't like my advice, don't take it.
I'm not here to help people do stupid things, I'll leave that to you though... not that you will likely ever post on this forum again. When you go off to run your npc trade routes or whatever other meaningless task you do to "explore" the game, I'll still be here advising people on how to not waste their time. Let me know how that route from Sivala to Irjunen is tho... it used to be quite popular back in the day.
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