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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.24 16:56:00 -
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àBoB potentially withstands the onslaught of hostiles, defends their remaining territory and repels the invaders? What will happen then?
Seems like everyone was writing BoB off to empire before the failed ædining in NOLÆ attempt, but what now? Will they attempt to take their former territory back or will they be more comfortable with just holding on to few regions close to home and go on a rampage on the ones they feel disrespected them?
Who will potentially be first on their target list? Who should be sweating and hoping that the coalition will hold and BoB will die or they will be in trouble going up against BoB without the help of the coalition?
Discuss.
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TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.24 16:59:00 -
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GO AWAY
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End Yourself
Core Domination Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:01:00 -
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No idea really, never liked or disliked BoB much so i don't really care...
...but i'd love to see the "coalition" fail just to see MC get what they deserve. Then again if the Coalition doesn't fail ET&co will be as good at that job. 
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Backpack Boy
9omH
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:04:00 -
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If they win, they can have some free backpacks 
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Commodore Gauss
Caldari C0NTAINMENT
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:07:00 -
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BoB has never been an alliance to rest on its laurels. If they do manage to hold onto their remaining space and recapture the whole of Delve, I speculate that their first order of business would be to ensure that Delve is "secure" much like Tortuga did for Period Basis. First to see invasion would be, my guess, Tortuga itself. I'm sure everyone's aware that BoB isn't one to forget a grudge, and Tortuga's backstab action (real or merely percieved) would provide just the fuel that would be needed to spur on territorial expansion. Assuming that goes to plan, next on tap would possibly be a quick steamroll of Querious, followed by Fountain. How each of these invasions go, and what kind of holder alliances can be set up there (if any) will dictate any future moves.
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Moonlight Express ...
It was said that MC will be the first target.
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Moonlight Express àBoB potentially withstands the onslaught of hostiles, defends their remaining territory and repels the invaders? What will happen then?
Seems like everyone was writing BoB off to empire before the failed ædining in NOLÆ attempt, but what now? Will they attempt to take their former territory back or will they be more comfortable with just holding on to few regions close to home and go on a rampage on the ones they feel disrespected them?
Who will potentially be first on their target list? Who should be sweating and hoping that the coalition will hold and BoB will die or they will be in trouble going up against BoB without the help of the coalition?
Discuss.
1. The coalition will proly spam fleets into BOBS systems until the gain sov in them and boot BOB out, then a lot of them will declare victory and go home.
2. They will get sick of sieging the area declare victory cos BOB is now contained and go home.
Either way unless they manage to split BOB as an alliance they will suffer rather heavy and expensive losses in the short and long term future as i doubt the coalition members will be willing to drop everything gather a blob and fly 20-100+ jumps (depending on how far away they are) every time BOB decides to attack somebody.
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:15:00 -
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The war really isnt any further on than it was months ago.. BOB are no closer to winning than they are to losing.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:16:00 -
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BoB has already been destroyed. Regardless of how many join up or how big the alliance is everything it ever was has been torn apart and utterly destroyed.
The perceptions people had of BoB at the beginning have been utterly turned around, mainly from their own doing. You know what I mean, things like sacrificing pets at the first opportunity while still trying to play the e-honour card, trying to pass the whole shebang as part of a BBQ Masterplan as well as countless other embarrassing blunders by the forum posting clunk squad. I'm not even going to mention cheating allegations as CCP doesn't like to be reminded.
Then you have BoBs achievements which include: Probably the most lost regions for an alliance First Titan lost that had a pilot online from beginning to end of its demise Worst ally retention ratio ever Most CAOD forum posting alts expressing a "neutral insight into what's going on"
Plus DICE has the best K:D ratio in the alliance which says a lot for the change regarding the 'core' of it's playerbase.
So the BoB that built up it's reputation is well and truly long gone, will be interesting to see if those clinging to the old memory can outlast the coalitions resolve in Delve.
Thunk
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Thunk BoB has already been destroyed. Regardless of how many join up or how big the alliance is everything it ever was has been torn apart and utterly destroyed.
The perceptions people had of BoB at the beginning have been utterly turned around, mainly from their own doing. You know what I mean, things like sacrificing pets at the first opportunity while still trying to play the e-honour card, trying to pass the whole shebang as part of a BBQ Masterplan as well as countless other embarrassing blunders by the forum posting clunk squad. I'm not even going to mention cheating allegations as CCP doesn't like to be reminded.
Then you have BoBs achievements which include: Probably the most lost regions for an alliance First Titan lost that had a pilot online from beginning to end of its demise Worst ally retention ratio ever Most CAOD forum posting alts expressing a "neutral insight into what's going on"
Plus DICE has the best K:D ratio in the alliance which says a lot for the change regarding the 'core' of it's playerbase.
So the BoB that built up it's reputation is well and truly long gone, will be interesting to see if those clinging to the old memory can outlast the coalitions resolve in Delve.
Thunk
hi, i am da DICE in da poast!
/me yawns 
ps. Can i sacrifice Darc to the COAD gods to up my posting ratio? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
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Maksiim
Doom and Gloom
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:21:00 -
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This guy is a hoot 
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Potty
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:25:00 -
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One failed operation does not signify a full withdraw by the coalition forces. The Nol op was an attempt to end the war before Christmas but it was a jump bridge to far. It looks like we will have to take the long way.
But then as this is a game and fighting is fun itÆs a æwin winÆ situation. I personally hope this war never ends.
For the ops view that 'everyone was writing BoB off to empire before the failed dining in NOL attempt', I suggest he/she is more careful whose opinions they take as gospel.
BoB are very capable. Still are and so long as they are together always will be. This is a hard fight, there will be many loss's and failed operations to which I will stick my neck out and say the coalition with suffer more, yet it wonÆt stop us pushing forward. We always knew the last push into bobs homeland would be the most difficult and be the most time consuming.
Less of these topics please. To insult myself, the only people who reply donÆt normally know whatÆs going on or are just saying things because they are after attention. Potty
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:32:00 -
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In the highly unlikely event that BoB do pull it back and get the upper hand again, I suspect they would start pushing to recapture their lost territory and evict Goonswarm again. Afterall, I doubt Goons would stop the war voluntarily, after all they've put in to it so far. SOMEONE has to lose, and if BoB don't then they'll have to make the Coalition do it instead.
But lets face it, what are the odds? They've been losing territory either fast or slow for months and months and months, and have lost every single politically noteworthy ally they had to either defeat or politics. If they were going to turn it around, they would have done so already. Just because they're putting up a spirited defence of Delve it doesn't mean they're back on top. ------
Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:37:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 24/02/2008 17:46:28 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 24/02/2008 17:44:13
Originally by: Captain Thunk BoB has already been destroyed. Regardless of how many join up or how big the alliance and everything it ever was has been torn apart and utterly destroyed.
They are doing quite well for dead ppl .
Originally by: Captain Thunk
I'm not even going to mention cheating allegations as CCP doesn't like to be reminded..
Blaming a entire alliance for the actions of one dev and a couple of members is just oportunistic propaganda and any other exploit they may have used is summat that every other large alliance in the game has used as well.
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Probably the most lost regions for an alliance
They had to win them in the first place to be able to lose them bud and they did not need to nap most of eve to do it.
Originally by: Captain Thunk
First Titan lost that had a pilot online from beginning to end of its demise
The only alliance able too kill two titans while they were considered unkillable and one titan while they were under siege and how did you put it? "the alliance and everything it ever was has been torn apart and utterly destroyed".
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Worst ally retention ratio ever
Allies die in war or bail when things get tough or boring and i see a few threads on here about the coalition forces leaving delve buddy and your supposed to be winning against this "utterly destroyed alliance" .
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Most CAOD forum posting alts expressing a "neutral insight into what's going on"
I 100% agree that reading honest and neutral posts from alts is better than your delusional crap.
Marakor for godhood |

Post
Man Pat And His Black And White Cat
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:40:00 -
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Edited by: Post on 24/02/2008 17:42:19 A ball can't bounce back until it has reached the ground. This ball has fallen a long way, it might come back and hit you in the face.
Postman Pat
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Commodore Gauss
Caldari C0NTAINMENT
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Posted - 2008.02.24 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Thunk The perceptions people had of BoB at the beginning have been utterly turned around, mainly from their own doing. You know what I mean, things like sacrificing pets at the first opportunity while still trying to play the e-honour card, trying to pass the whole shebang as part of a BBQ Masterplan as well as countless other embarrassing blunders by the forum posting clunk squad. I'm not even going to mention cheating allegations as CCP doesn't like to be reminded.
Then you have BoBs achievements which include: Probably the most lost regions for an alliance First Titan lost that had a pilot online from beginning to end of its demise Worst ally retention ratio ever Most CAOD forum posting alts expressing a "neutral insight into what's going on"
Are you actually clueless or do you just roleplay extremely well?
Let me go ahead and break it down to Barney level for you. Yes, the T20 scandal happened. Is the average BoB member proud of it? No, but it happened. The fact that every thread has to at some point bring up the scandal shows that the coalition and its sympathizers are grasping at straws to drum up more support for their "noble" cause.
As to BoB's 'achievements' that you post in sarcasm about: Most definately the most gained regions for an alliance (they weren't born with them, you know). First titan pilot that had the balls to stay online when he was caught. Also, RA just lost a titan while online the entire time. Does that mean they're doomed also? Most allies blobbed out of 0.0 by superior numbers. Also, a lot of these allies are still around and contributing to the same ends as BoB. The ones who didn't turncoat and join the NAPfest, I mean. A lot of CAOD forum posting alts most likely surpassed by RSF allies' CAOD posting alts who don't even pretend to give a "neutral insight into what's going on."
As far as your the rest of what you said... crap, and more crap. None of what you said has anything to do with the OP's question, so I have no idea why I've even responded to it. Guess I'll go drop a deuce and think about it for awhile.
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Elise Randolph
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:14:00 -
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Everybody wins when trolls get trolled.
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Tarantelita
Ragna Rok Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Thunk BoB has already been destroyed. Regardless of how many join up or how big the alliance is everything it ever was has been torn apart and utterly destroyed.
The perceptions people had of BoB at the beginning have been utterly turned around, mainly from their own doing. You know what I mean, things like sacrificing pets at the first opportunity while still trying to play the e-honour card, trying to pass the whole shebang as part of a BBQ Masterplan as well as countless other embarrassing blunders by the forum posting clunk squad. I'm not even going to mention cheating allegations as CCP doesn't like to be reminded.
Then you have BoBs achievements which include: Probably the most lost regions for an alliance First Titan lost that had a pilot online from beginning to end of its demise Worst ally retention ratio ever Most CAOD forum posting alts expressing a "neutral insight into what's going on"
Plus DICE has the best K:D ratio in the alliance which says a lot for the change regarding the 'core' of it's playerbase.
So the BoB that built up it's reputation is well and truly long gone, will be interesting to see if those clinging to the old memory can outlast the coalitions resolve in Delve.
Thunk
You are brainless. If you reson like that, then tell me one alliance that have not lost in their history any regions???
You are brainless if you think one corp or alliance can go throu eve history without any defites.
You are brainless.

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Ishamel 1
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Thunk I'm not even going to mention cheating allegations as CCP doesn't like to be reminded. Thunk
you just did .....
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Ishamel 1
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Post Edited by: Post on 24/02/2008 17:42:19 A ball can't bounce back until it has reached the ground. This ball has fallen a long way, it might come back and hit you in the face.
Unfortunately said ball can not bounce back as high as its original position. Physics ftl 
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Post
Man Pat And His Black And White Cat
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ishamel 1
Originally by: Post Edited by: Post on 24/02/2008 17:42:19 A ball can't bounce back until it has reached the ground. This ball has fallen a long way, it might come back and hit you in the face.
Unfortunately said ball can not bounce back as high as its original position. Physics ftl 
Yes my son. But BOB have fallen from far above everyone else, the ball might not reach it's orginail BOBly height, but it will take all the inferior species with it as it rebounds and knocks them all out!
Postman Pat
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Moonlight Express Edited by: Moonlight Express on 24/02/2008 18:13:01
à potentially withstands the onslaught of hostiles, defends their remaining territory and repels the invaders? What will happen then?
What is it to discuss? The game will go on I suppose..
Originally by: CCP Whisper I got your ambulation right here... <walks off to get more wine>
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Kalvin Braunberg
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kalvin Braunberg on 24/02/2008 18:54:09
Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 24/02/2008 17:53:02
They had to win them in the first place to be able to lose them bud and they did not need to nap most of eve to do it.
The only alliance able too kill two titans while they were considered unkillable and one titan while they were under siege and how did you put it? "the alliance and everything it ever was has been torn apart and utterly destroyed".
Allies die in war or bail when things get tough or boring and i see a few threads on here about the coalition forces leaving delve buddy and your supposed to be winning against this "utterly destroyed alliance" .
I 100% agree that reading honest and neutral posts from alts is better than your delusional crap.
I don't post or read COAD much, cuz its generally crap, but HOLY CRAP BOB ALT SPOTTED. Why don't you just post with your main if your gonna be this freakin obvious??
This has been mentioned before and there is a list around here, but i'm too lazy to search for it, of BOB's allies during the time they were taking space and RSF Allies now and the BOB list is freakin huge!! When I look at what has happened a part of me even thinks that BOB was never actually that great at taking/holding/maintaining large amounts of space, and was only able to because of their invincible game breaking space dongs (titans). Because as soon as they got nerfed, things sure slid backwords awfully fast.
Scanning out 2 Titans and killing them while they were unpiloted, even when they were totally game breaking, is hardly note worthy. BOB esentially has 1 real Titan kill.
Your Allies didn't die, or just bail cuz things got tough. They bailed because BOB stranded them and left them out to dry.
Honest and nuetral posts from alts??? This actually made me laugh pretty hard. Yeah this alt post is soooo honest and nuetral I can taste the bitterness. Wake up, look around you, look at some join dates and alliances and employment history, you'll see real fast that BOB is pretty far gone from what it used to be, which i'm pretty sure was the point. Not what you twisted the point into that "the alliance and everything it ever was has been torn apart and utterly destroyed"
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Sanka Cofie
Amarr Vena Sera Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Commodore Gauss BoB has never been an alliance to rest on its laurels.
Little known fact: GOON stole all of BoB's laurels several months ago.
Laurels don't spawn in Delve either, environment is too hostile for them. ~-~-~-~-~ -[WillChat4ISK]- I can be the handsome Amarr space captain. You can be the helpless Minmatar slave girl. |

Sanka Cofie
Amarr Vena Sera Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.24 18:51:00 -
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Oh... and llege antes del lock. ~-~-~-~-~ -[WillChat4ISK]- I can be the handsome Amarr space captain. You can be the helpless Minmatar slave girl. |

Post
Man Pat And His Black And White Cat
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Posted - 2008.02.24 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Post on 24/02/2008 19:05:13
Originally by: Kalvin Braunberg Edited by: Kalvin Braunberg on 24/02/2008 18:59:39 Edited by: Kalvin Braunberg on 24/02/2008 18:54:09
Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 24/02/2008 17:53:02
They had to win them in the first place to be able to lose them bud and they did not need to nap most of eve to do it.
The only alliance able too kill two titans while they were considered unkillable and one titan while they were under siege and how did you put it? "the alliance and everything it ever was has been torn apart and utterly destroyed".
Allies die in war or bail when things get tough or boring and i see a few threads on here about the coalition forces leaving delve buddy and your supposed to be winning against this "utterly destroyed alliance" .
I 100% agree that reading honest and neutral posts from alts is better than your delusional crap.
I don't post or read COAD much, cuz its generally crap, but HOLY CRAP BOB ALT SPOTTED. Why don't you just post with your main if your gonna be this freakin obvious??
This has been mentioned before and there is a list around here, but i'm too lazy to search for it, of BOB's allies during the time they were taking space and RSF Allies now and the BOB list is freakin huge!!
Yeah, taking all that space was an acheivment of sorts, but it dosne't count for much if you just walk away from it the moment it's contested. When I look at what has happened a part of me thinks that BOB was never actually that great at taking/holding/maintaining large amounts of space, and was only able to because of their invincible game breaking space dongs (titans). Because as soon as they got nerfed, things sure slid backwords awfully fast.
Scanning out 2 Titans and killing them while they were unpiloted, even when they were totally game breaking, is hardly note worthy. BOB esentially has 1 real Titan kill.
Your Allies didn't die, or just bail cuz things got tough. They bailed because BOB stranded them and left them out to dry.
Honest and nuetral posts from alts??? This actually made me laugh pretty hard. Yeah this alt post is soooo honest and nuetral I can taste the bitterness. Wake up, look around you, look at some join dates and alliances and employment history, you'll see real fast that BOB is pretty far gone from what it used to be, which i'm pretty sure was the point. Not what you twisted the point into that "the alliance and everything it ever was has been torn apart and utterly destroyed"
Hey dude, didn't you hear? Goons aren't allowed to post on forums anymore since they have some PR to do with their RA/RAZOR/TCF pets.
Postman Pat
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Starfall Hammer
Starfall Industries
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Posted - 2008.02.24 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Thunk Most CAOD forum posting alts expressing a "neutral insight into what's going on"
What is so funny is the number of obvious bob alts flaming this post 
Originally by: Captain Thunk So the BoB that built up it's reputation is well and truly long gone, will be interesting to see if those clinging to the old memory can outlast the coalitions resolve in Delve.
This is pretty true IMO, bob used to be a small alliance of (from an outsiders view) "elite" pilots. Now its a very large alliance with a lot of mediocre pilots and a few good fcs and a lot of the real "bob" that made their reputation like blacklight and farjung no longer active or playing.
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Kalvin Braunberg
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.24 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Post Edited by: Post on 24/02/2008 19:05:13 Hey dude, didn't you hear? Goons aren't allowed to post on forums anymore since they have some PR to do with their RA/RAZOR/TCF pets.
Hey LOOK!! Another BOB Alt too bitter to troll with his main.
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.24 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 24/02/2008 19:26:04
Originally by: Kalvin Braunberg
Honest and nuetral posts from alts??? This actually made me laugh pretty hard. Yeah this alt post is soooo honest and nuetral I can taste the bitterness. Wake up, look around you, look at some join dates and alliances and employment history, you'll see real fast that BOB is pretty far gone from what it used to be, which i'm pretty sure was the point. Not what you twisted the point into that "the alliance and everything it ever was has been torn apart and utterly destroyed"
1. I actualy helped remove a lot of the BOB pets from various areas in eve so i am not a bitter BOB alt as your more active forum trolls well know.
2. BOB has has many allies in the past but has virtualy always been outnumbered by the ppl and the naps they have been fighting. Nor do i consider that BOB betrayed its allies as i know for a fact that they were fighting other members of the coalition elsewhere in eve and could not help (unless you can show ppl how to be in several areas at once).
3. The titan did make a differance but then BOB also fought wars against alliances with titans as well and these alliances also outnumbered and outnapped them but BOB still won.
4. And yes they killed two titans before the nerf and yes they were logged out but it was the only way too kill a titan at the time and it still took a lot of planning. I do not remember any other alliance managing it prenerf and please do not tell me that their honour would have stopped them from popping a logged off BOB TITAN .
5. Read the op and you will see that i twisted nothing in fact i used direct quotes from the OP and replied to them.
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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2008.02.24 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kalvin Braunberg
Originally by: Post Edited by: Post on 24/02/2008 19:05:13 Hey dude, didn't you hear? Goons aren't allowed to post on forums anymore since they have some PR to do with their RA/RAZOR/TCF pets.
Hey LOOK!! Another BOB Alt too bitter to troll with his main.
Aren't you guys too busy suicide ganking hulks and other miners in empire to post on CAOD?And then your calling others trolls/cowards for hiding behind an alt to post something on CAOD while your ganking empire miners under the excuse you 'have a ciontract on them' LOL .. pathetic you scum are.
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