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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.04.04 00:22:00 -
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C4 Alliance declares victory over SA in the Esoteria and Paragon regions. In the beginning of the 3 week "Esoteria Campaign" SA fielded 40+ battle groups. Through heavy attrition against the enemy and C4 suffering minimal losses the SA defenders pulled out over time.
After the first week they were down to 10 ship fleets and in the last week were reduced to a handfull of guerilla fighters who would only come out when the area was empty. These remainiing guerilla fighters pulled out this weekend and the area is considered to be pacified. Stain proper is nearly vacant as well.
C4 will be opening these regions to non hostile corporations that desire access to these regions. Contact Specter ingame to discuss arrangements.
*WARNING*
Any corps without previous permission to be in these areas will be considered combatents, their corp standings will be set to -10 and kos anywhere in 0.0 Eve. If it is a corp of an alliance, that alliance will be contacted and if appropriate actions are not taken against their member corp that alliance will come under relentless attack.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.04.04 00:25:00 -
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Bye Stain.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.04.04 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Nafri on 04/04/2004 00:30:28
 80 jumps, and there is peace...
Wanna fly with me?
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mute
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Posted - 2004.04.04 00:53:00 -
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and then ?
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Cordova
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Posted - 2004.04.04 00:57:00 -
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ta'da
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.04.04 00:57:00 -
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Oh God....
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Lord Zith
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Posted - 2004.04.04 00:58:00 -
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???? 
Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Balmer [OC], wrecking for 1134.4 damage. :-) |
Judicator
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Posted - 2004.04.04 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Judicator on 04/04/2004 01:01:43
I believe it when SA post their surrender aswell. You can't really kill anyone in EVE. They sort of have to agree to be "defeated".
Edit: They can also keep all their offices jsut to make the stations useless to anyone else.
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Draconis Red
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Posted - 2004.04.04 01:13:00 -
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Well, in this case as holders of the stations we can eject offices as of tomorrow, so SA corps will have no offices down here to make the stations useless.
Also although SA may have not admitted their defeat on the forums, the latest to withdraw are DSU who were given time to move their assets out of our space.
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Here's one for all you carebears out there :P |
Nova Ivanova
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Posted - 2004.04.04 01:32:00 -
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iam just gonna play along with TC on this on
And then ?
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.04.04 01:47:00 -
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Edited by: Nafri on 04/04/2004 00:30:28
80 jumps, and there is peace...
don't kill me! 
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I believe it when SA post their surrender aswell. You can't really kill anyone in EVE. They sort of have to agree to be "defeated".
pfiew... I'm saved from Nafri's wrath then
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.04.04 02:57:00 -
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EVE-Guardian Response to the Declaration, by Morkt Drak
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LADY PRIME
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Posted - 2004.04.04 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: LADY PRIME on 04/04/2004 03:22:33
Edited by: LADY PRIME on 04/04/2004 03:18:45
JUST THE FACTS!!
CCP has manage to do Something CA, C4, Xetic nore any other Alliance could do and that is stop or slow down the SA. 3 to 4 AlIiance againt 1, CA, C4,Xetic and CCP.
FACTS: CCP has made Stain a Wasteland, there is no Ore over Omber in Stain, Why fight for a wasteland that has no resources to maintain an Alliance the size of SA, what is the point of losing ship with no means to replace them in Stain.
Esoteria is not worth it as well, there is only 1 or 2 systems with Bistot, not enough to maintain the SA.
So just remember before you talk about all the wonderful thing CA, C4 and Xetic did to SA give the credit to people that really did the damage...CCP, not to any Alliance...... Enjoy the Wasteland Called OLD Stain....Well as I see it, its OLD STAIN. With every new patch they released they slowly drain Stain dry into this Low End Ore Desert. SA can get low end ore in Empire.
And from What I see SA is not weak nor defeated at all, Not even Close so before you get too happy think twice. I see them being very Smart, Tactful and nowhere near defeated!!!
CCP playing GOD again with STAIN.
AGAIN JUST THE FACTS
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.04.04 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 04/04/2004 03:34:48
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Edited by: LADY PRIME on 04/04/2004 03:22:33
Edited by: LADY PRIME on 04/04/2004 03:18:45
JUST THE FACTS!!
CCP has manage to do Something CA, C4, Xetic nore any other Alliance could do and that is stop or slow down the SA. 3 to 4 AlIiance againt 1, CA, C4,Xetic and CCP.
FACTS: CCP has made Stain a Wasteland, there is no Ore over Omber in Stain, Why fight for a wasteland that has no resources to maintain an Alliance the size of SA, what is the point of losing ship with no means to replace them in Stain.
Esoteria is not worth it as well, there is only 1 or 2 systems with Bistot, not enough to maintain the SA.
So just remember before you talk about all the wonderful thing CA, C4 and Xetic did to SA give the credit to people that really did the damage...CCP, not to any Alliance...... Enjoy the Wasteland Called OLD Stain....Well as I see it, its OLD STAIN. With every new patch they released they slowly drain Stain dry into this Low End Ore Desert. SA can get low end ore in Empire.
And from What I see SA is not weak nor defeated at all, Not even Close so before you get too happy think twice. I see them being very Smart, Tactful and nowhere near defeated!!!
CCP playing GOD again with STAIN.
AGAIN JUST THE FACTS
ROFL
Funniest post Ever. I remember what Curse's minerals were like 7 month ago, they were worse than Stain's are now by a long long long way.
You failed to adapt, you lost. Nothing like being graceful in defeat though
Consider yourself extinct, im sure the Do-Do was whining about how humans can craft tools with their hands shortly before they vanished for good...damn expoiting mammals!!!
Congrats CA/C4, beena long time coming 
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LADY PRIME
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Posted - 2004.04.04 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: LADY PRIME on 04/04/2004 03:55:13
Like I said SA is very smart and tactful. So you admit CCP is playing GOD again? Remove Stain Ores and place it in Curse, helping Curse out, Don't be foolish they are nothing near defeat. Don't be completely foolish to just bounce into Stain like jackles.
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Lord Zith
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Posted - 2004.04.04 03:58:00 -
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Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Balmer [OC], wrecking for 1134.4 damage. :-) |
Icomeinpeace
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Posted - 2004.04.04 04:45:00 -
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Edited by: Icomeinpeace on 04/04/2004 04:47:00
*BURP*
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.04.04 04:49:00 -
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Nice report from MDW, just one or two issues on it.
Firstly i must address the statement saying the EV is not what it used to be. Your right it's not, it's improved. Over the past few months i have witnessed (thanks to a change in leadership) a significant improvement in the honour, vigilance and personality from the EV members and most of all warriors.
Secondly the C4 has been fighting this war for a long time, many a time we could have declared victory, but i think this is the nail in that coffin. Stain may never rest, some people are very persistant and should be admired for it, some may say their too proud to surrdenr and thus foolish to continue, well perhaps - it takes a lot to lay down your cause, i know personally from the VA campaign.
Anyways just my opinion.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.04.04 05:14:00 -
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My points on the Issue:
1.) The PvP corps pretty much decided that the "carebears" have no place, in fact, a lot of policies that would help the "Carebears" were shot down... I wonder why?
2.) C4 was at one point a mere annoyance that could have been totally crushed in its entirety, but many SA leaders had to much pitty on Duke, how could they fight such a dear friend?
3.) CCP truly screwed SA. Curse makes these totally whiny and air headed statement of "Oh, we had that problem, too. Waawaa." Right, when the or shift came, your ores were still in your back yard. Guess what? Ours were in the FRONT YARD... and pretty much a long walk away. Adadpation was pretty much, "get nailed walking to your front yard, then in your front yard you get gang banged." Esoteria has always been pretty much empty.
4.) Many members of SA will NEVER admit defeat, especially when the enemy demands public humilation. So, they just prolong the fight. Nice way to win a war Duke, never were a student of history were you? Note the result of the Versailles treaty. Note the Result of the 100 years war. They have something in common, have a look.
5.) Jesus OC, update your webpage, its still shows archon as your XO.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.04.04 05:44:00 -
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Thank you for your comment Reverend, I'm not sure what the other members think (as I have been out of comission for the last 3 weeks due to a dead GFX card) but considering your previous stance on EV, it means something.
As for the MDW article, I have not read it and from what it appears to be, I am not going to comment on it.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.04.04 06:00:00 -
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C4 was at one point a mere annoyance that could have been totally crushed in its entirety, but many SA leaders had to much pitty on Duke, how could they fight such a dear friend?
Lol, from the first day of the war we handed the SA it's butt on a silver platter. Crushing us was never a possibility for you. The fact that you don't understand that punctuates why you lost the war.
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CCP truly screwed SA. Curse makes these totally whiny and air headed statement of "Oh, we had that problem, too. Waawaa." Right, when the or shift came, your ores were still in your back yard. Guess what? Ours were in the FRONT YARD... and pretty much a long walk away.
The fact is that SA had the richest region in eve since the beginning. CA had crap. CA withstood the onslaught of FA, SA and several corps.
SA is now the one without good ore BUT it had months of insane wealth. Where did all the assets go? OC has waged the war with minimal income so don't whine about lack of income or access to good ore. There were many options to acquire these even after the changes.
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Many members of SA will NEVER admit defeat, especially when the enemy demands public humilation.
As you were told, if an enemy leaves SA and moves to the other side of Eve we will not pursue but if they are next door we will.
If they leave SA and surrender then we will let them live in peace next door. As we were betrayed by SA, the very ones we fought months on the front line to defend, I believe this is a very generous offer.
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Nice way to win a war Duke, never were a student of history were you? Note the result of the Versailles treaty. Note the Result of the 100 years war. They have something in common, have a look.
Note that we love war and have been at war every day since beta 4. We're just giving you a way out so you're not the focus of our attention. What do you offer us for the trouble it took to bring SA to this point? Nothing? Not even a surrender? You make the bed, you lie in it.
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Jesus OC, update your webpage, its still shows archon as your XO.
Host problems with accessing our site for mods. However we do not care much about the site as our emphasis is on playing the game.
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Isnt 1 April over ?
if not then i think some one is ineed of Reality Check :)-[COL]Infinity
You are the one in need of a reality check. After 7 days of non stop combat during our "Catch Campaign" it was The Collective that asked us for a cease fire to withdraw from Catch as you said "we're leaving the SA". It wasn't until after we launched the Esoteria Campaign that COL decided to renig on its agreement and move back into Catch. How daring of you. It was also a poor example of COL honoring their word. We wont make the mistake of taking COL's word again.
I'm curious if you actually think that CA/C4 will be unable to drive you out of catch again?
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Dark Empress
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Posted - 2004.04.04 06:11:00 -
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we all know duke.. you and your gang are the best. The rest of EVE sucks. And ofc everything you say is true.
You have to be the most angry player in EVE. Turn off your computer for two secs and try something new.. like RL |
Levin Cavil
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Posted - 2004.04.04 06:30:00 -
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Nice to see you keep the propaganda machine running so smoothly.
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Abram
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Posted - 2004.04.04 06:49:00 -
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for all you dumbasses screaming "Propagada!!" Look at the map every night like I have been for the last 2 weeks. C4 owns the stations 90 percent of time. Face it SA you are beat. quit your whining and admit it. and this is coming from an enemy of CA/C4. SA you lost the war when Castor came out and all you greedy bastards mined while CA/C4 bulit itself up...there were times where I felt like I was the only one running around Curse trying to stop these guys. Enjoy Empire space or sitting in the station SA....you earned it.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.04 07:59:00 -
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Can we have a NAP?
I wanna go 56 jumps ti mine weldspar. 
From the responses made by SA so far, it appears C4's press release is truthful
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Bigfoot Hunter
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Posted - 2004.04.04 08:14:00 -
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Dam the longest war in the history of eve finaly over how long did it go from like the first battleships in game till now. Sounds like the passing of a era to me. I wonder what the future holds .
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Tamish
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Posted - 2004.04.04 10:25:00 -
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I have made this same post 3 times on other topics it is the most accurate picture of whatÆs going on.
The first night C4 came down to Estonia SA organised a 50 strong fleet to engage them, made up of all the 'southern' SA corps. We jumped into CN9 and after a small engagement during which C4 were sitting 150km away from the gate C4 retreated to their safespot, we took the station and sat around till 1-2 am until C4 had SA outnumbered by 2 to 1.
This pattern continued during Euro hours the C4 fleet would sit in a safespot and when the bulk of the SA defenders logoff around 1am they would attack. This happened everyday for the two weeks I was down there. C4 would make a couple of kills a day usually stray miners or when they outnumber SA to 1 by jumping in at 120k +.
Most people have given up the fight not due to losses or superior opponents just due to boredom, that 50 strong fleet had not gone away they are just bored of spending all their playtime babysitting the C4 Euro Fleet.
When black-ops comes out that 50 strong fleet and more will be down to inflict heavy casualties on your 'industrial' corps there will be no hiding and you will either have to fight or leave. In the meantime enjoy mining the omber and whatever scraps of bistot are left.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.04.04 10:53:00 -
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I wanna go 56 jumps ti mine weldspar.
I prefer the Crokite and Bistot myself. When I mine, that is.
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Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.04.04 10:56:00 -
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I have made this same post 3 times on other topics it is the most accurate picture of whatÆs going on.
The first night C4 came down to Estonia SA organised a 50 strong fleet to engage them, made up of all the 'southern' SA corps. We jumped into CN9 and after a small engagement during which C4 were sitting 150km away from the gate C4 retreated to their safespot, we took the station and sat around till 1-2 am until C4 had SA outnumbered by 2 to 1.
This pattern continued during Euro hours the C4 fleet would sit in a safespot and when the bulk of the SA defenders logoff around 1am they would attack. This happened everyday for the two weeks I was down there. C4 would make a couple of kills a day usually stray miners or when they outnumber SA to 1 by jumping in at 120k +.
Most people have given up the fight not due to losses or superior opponents just due to boredom, that 50 strong fleet had not gone away they are just bored of spending all their playtime babysitting the C4 Euro Fleet.
When black-ops comes out that 50 strong fleet and more will be down to inflict heavy casualties on your 'industrial' corps there will be no hiding and you will either have to fight or leave. In the meantime enjoy mining the omber and whatever scraps of bistot are left.
Just a couple of commentars as one that "has nothing to do there"
1.- Thanks for giving a breafing of what's been going on there and how the struggle went
2.- Nobody leaves an area so "easy" to defend. You don't have several entry points to that regions but 1 or 2 at most. If C4 is there operating now is not because you leave, but cause you couldn't withdraw them. EV has made a recruiting effort this last weeks. To recruit veterans of several timezones could have lead to a better response to the enemy.
3.- Nobody leaves an area, even if it's only "omber" there. Minerals respawn. Many generals have said this before. "We leave this area cause it's not important any more".
Those regions are the south frontier to Stain, that now could be facing a double attack from the North and South.
4.- I don't think the War is over either. SA or the South corps in it are still a formidable force. The strength of an alliance or a corp demonstrates no in the "good times" but in the bad ones (TTI is an example of that). I'm sure it'll be good fights there.
To all, have good and honorable fights. And tons of fun of course
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thuggie
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Posted - 2004.04.04 10:56:00 -
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for all you dumbasses screaming "Propagada!!" Look at the map every night like I have been for the last 2 weeks. C4 owns the stations 90 percent of time. Face it SA you are beat. quit your whining and admit it. and this is coming from an enemy of CA/C4. SA you lost the war when Castor came out and all you greedy bastards mined while CA/C4 bulit itself up...there were times where I felt like I was the only one running around Curse trying to stop these guys. Enjoy Empire space or sitting in the station SA....you earned it.
We got tired of the tennis match, we have the stations when we need them.
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