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n0sPIG Pakehaz.	Posted - 2008.02.26 01:31:00 - [151] Originally by: Dafuzz How you guys can keep saying you took X* regions from us when we left them willingly is beyond me. This seems to be a common oversight
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.26 01:31:00 - [152] Originally by: Dafuzz Originally by: KIATolon and we've BEEN GIVEN 6 regions I spend too much time correcting you good goon folks. How you guys can keep saying you took X* regions from us when we left them willingly is beyond me. oh you left feyth, omist and tenerifis willingly now? haha. The titan kill in Tenerfis betrays you... the 100% moon spam in Omist and feyth betray that theory too.
Mr Ballard	Posted - 2008.02.26 01:36:00 - [153] more like the Almao amirite wellami? /killself
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.26 01:37:00 - [154] I knew someone called mr mallard
Mr Ballard	Posted - 2008.02.26 01:39:00 - [155] He probably took drugs, qwack for example,
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.02.26 01:41:00 - [156] Edited by: marakor on 26/02/2008 01:44:43 Originally by: Hannobaal Originally by: marakor Originally by: KIATolon Nerfing cynojammers benefits bob, not us. Bob have NEVER taken a cynojammed system from RSF, and we've taken 6 regions of them from bob, yet we still admit they're overpowered. A sentiment echo'd by CCP. Whatever, troll. Ok ok i get it you only threadnaught and get nerfs for things that kick your butt i get it dude jeeez i realy do just chill. We get it. You're in BE, you love BoB and you don't like Goons. Why don't you post about it with your BE main instead of using an alt? 1. I do not love BOB in fact i have shot at them considerably more than i have shot at goons or the coalition, i also helped remove a lot of pets from branch. 2. I support BOB on the forums because its the best way to wind blobbers up, so the only correct point you have is that i do not like blobbers although you say its goons i dislike because you see me replying to you a lot (fyi its cos you goons post more). 3. I post with a alt because firstly these are my opinions and perhaps not those of members of TI and secondly because i know i have hit the mark when you ppl go from arguing my points to insulting me because im using a alt, exactly like you have just done. HEY LISTEN for ruler of eve.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.26 01:47:00 - [157] Originally by: KIATolon oh you left feyth, omist and tenerifis willingly now? Even the Mull of Kintyre > Omist As the song god himself said: Mull of Kintyre Omist rolling in from the sea, My desire is always to be here Oh Mull of Kintyre Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.26 02:12:00 - [158] Originally by: TheAdj Whoever owns Kookman must have a Rapier BPO, we blasted that poor guy everytime he uncloaked. Even got him as my first POS gun victim. Kookman is pretty terrible at PvP, I agree.
Lyta Delta	Posted - 2008.02.26 03:04:00 - [159] Originally by: Scavok Edited by: Scavok on 26/02/2008 00:42:27 Originally by: marakor These same problems have applied in every BOB system with a cyno jammer you have taken has it not, so whats the problem now?. Need a new nerf?. I think jammers should be hit with the nerfbat until they're a bloody pulp of what they are now, particularly jump bridges working with capitals in a jammed system. But bob could have safely turned the jammer off several times in their primetime and it would have been suicide for us to jump anything in, so it wouldn't have made a difference here. They just had bigger fleets up with better ships for much longer periods than they did on other occasions. They've also learned through a lot of experience how to set their jammer POS up, had time to train POS gunning on god knows how many alts, and learned tactics to effectively defend them at off times. For these same reasons I don't see BoB as a threat at all, they would struggle just as much if not significantly more trying to take any station system from us. Didn't you guys manage to disable the NOL jammer and jump capitals including including 2 titans? Your argument NOL being jammed doesnt hold. So, they got better ships, more experience, more training, better tactics ... basically you are agreeing they are better than you
Scarcus Caldari Stain of Mind	Posted - 2008.02.26 03:21:00 - [160] Originally by: Lyta Delta Originally by: Scavok Edited by: Scavok on 26/02/2008 00:42:27 Originally by: marakor These same problems have applied in every BOB system with a cyno jammer you have taken has it not, so whats the problem now?. Need a new nerf?. I think jammers should be hit with the nerfbat until they're a bloody pulp of what they are now, particularly jump bridges working with capitals in a jammed system. But bob could have safely turned the jammer off several times in their primetime and it would have been suicide for us to jump anything in, so it wouldn't have made a difference here. They just had bigger fleets up with better ships for much longer periods than they did on other occasions. They've also learned through a lot of experience how to set their jammer POS up, had time to train POS gunning on god knows how many alts, and learned tactics to effectively defend them at off times. For these same reasons I don't see BoB as a threat at all, they would struggle just as much if not significantly more trying to take any station system from us. Didn't you guys manage to disable the NOL jammer and jump capitals including including 2 titans? Your argument NOL being jammed doesnt hold. So, they got better ships, more experience, more training, better tactics ... basically you are agreeing they are better than you You gotta love alts. Once NOL has been purged with cleansing fire, and all the vassals are put to the sword, I'm sure we'll have a lovely little cold war, your bloc and ours. Originally by: KIATolon Chowdown, if you use your t
fightnkill Blue.	Posted - 2008.02.26 03:40:00 - [161] U know, if Eve was 100% lag free, this war would be over by next week. It's quiet a shame how the problems with game mechanic is holding the players from enjoying the game to its fullest.
ChalSto Divine Retribution Divine 0rder	Posted - 2008.02.26 04:17:00 - [162] Just keep fearing the Band of Brothers Alliance, dear Coalition. They dont fear you and never will be. That is, what makes them strong until the EvE-Server will be shut down, or the Coalition-Members cancel their accounts. Must be hard to suck at EvE Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb
Lighthugger Caldari The Merchant Marines VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.26 04:18:00 - [163] Originally by: fightnkill U know, if Eve was 100% lag free, this war would be over by next week. It's quiet a shame how the problems with game mechanic is holding the players from enjoying the game to its fullest. Can't really follow who's fake tool is who's but this just strikes me as and excuse. Just can't see it ever being lag free m8.
Hey You Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.26 04:43:00 - [164] Originally by: fightnkill U know, if Eve was 100% lag free, this war would be over by next week. It's quiet a shame how the problems with game mechanic is holding the players from enjoying the game to its fullest. That goes both ways. /me Thinks of time when LV was still alive. You can ask what would happen if it wasn't lag then. I can say that war would be over then as well. In our favor. But this is stupid discussion. Heres to more pew pew. __________________________________ We Ride Together We Die Together We Few, We Happy Few...
Arturus Vex Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.26 05:11:00 - [165] Originally by: Dafuzz Originally by: KIATolon and we've BEEN GIVEN 6 regions I spend too much time correcting you good goon folks. How you guys can keep saying you took X* regions from us when we left them willingly is beyond me. That's true. Thanks. The faction and officer mod pinatas have been nice as well.
Scavok UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.26 05:19:00 - [166] Edited by: Scavok on 26/02/2008 05:22:41 Originally by: Lyta Delta Originally by: Scavok Edited by: Scavok on 26/02/2008 00:42:27 Originally by: marakor These same problems have applied in every BOB system with a cyno jammer you have taken has it not, so whats the problem now?. Need a new nerf?. I think jammers should be hit with the nerfbat until they're a bloody pulp of what they are now, particularly jump bridges working with capitals in a jammed system. But bob could have safely turned the jammer off several times in their primetime and it would have been suicide for us to jump anything in, so it wouldn't have made a difference here. They just had bigger fleets up with better ships for much longer periods than they did on other occasions. They've also learned through a lot of experience how to set their jammer POS up, had time to train POS gunning on god knows how many alts, and learned tactics to effectively defend them at off times. For these same reasons I don't see BoB as a threat at all, they would struggle just as much if not significantly more trying to take any station system from us. Didn't you guys manage to disable the NOL jammer and jump capitals including including 2 titans? Your argument NOL being jammed doesnt hold. So, they got better ships, more experience, more training, better tactics ... basically you are agreeing they are better than you We had the jammer down once in US primetime, and twice in very late US/RA primetime. For better or worse the coalition doesn't ****sock like BoB. We couldn't expect our major euro allies to be able to get the 100+ capitals needed in at the worst times possible for them, and likewise you can't expect RA and GS to show up with all of their caps well outside of their primetime. It also took BoB the entire week to move all of their caps into the system, and they would do it in small groups if not entirely piecemeal, which isn't an option for us. They do have better ships, the average BoB member (or corp depending on how things are done) has much more SP and isk than the average Goon, if not from t2 bpos or moon mining half of 0.0 for months, then from actually caring enough to put themselves through empire mission running. As for experience, tactics, random flamebait crap, if you think we haven't adapted and learned as well then you're a fool. It would be just as effective to self destruct our fleet if today we tried using the same tactics that worked for us in Omist and Feyth to take down jammers. Our POS setups have constantly been tweaked and improved just like BoB's, and a Goonswarm POS even managed to get a solo dreadnought kill in QY6 (the first by a POS during a siege afaik). However, all other things being equal, trying to fight at fully faction POS is only going to end one way.
Amthrianius Keiretsu Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.26 05:33:00 - [167] I didn't realise this forum was for marking peoples essays ---------------
Scavok UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.26 05:34:00 - [168] I didn't realize there was a corp in bob named keiretsu
Amthrianius Keiretsu Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.26 05:46:00 - [169] I created it just for the k:d tbh. ---------------
Omeega UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.26 06:07:00 - [170] Originally by: TWD Originally by: TheAdj Whoever owns Kookman must have a Rapier BPO, we blasted that poor guy everytime he uncloaked. Even got him as my first POS gun victim. Kookman is pretty terrible at PvP, I agree. I've heard the guy can't even tackle a covert ops at his own POS :) Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Angor The JORG Corporation Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.26 06:11:00 - [171] Originally by: TWD "This week we're going to take nol." - KIATolon / Suas of GoonSwarm @ 2008.2.17. ROLEPLAY MODE AKTIVATE The siege of NOL-M9 started on the 14th of Februari. A coalition fleet including 120 battleships started attacking our cyno jammer. We destroyed half of our their battleships but they were succesful in taking down our jammer. They brought in a capital fleet shortly after and started sieging and reinforcing our POS. All of our POS have been saved. The coalition dropped 9 large towers in the system. Yesterday, more than a week later, all hostile POS have been destroyed. We have regained control of the system. We have won this battle, but the war is far from over. There will, undoubtedly, be another attack from the coalition on our home systems. And we will be here, waiting. I would like to thank our allies who have supported us. Also the coalition for bringing the fight to us even though I don't like their motivation and some of their actions. Also the people in Band Of Brothers, I have not seen this participation and dedication in our alliance for a long time. Statistics (ship kills / losses): Battleship 554 / 170 Carrier 13 / 1 Dreadnought 10 / 0 Mothership 1 / 0 Titan 1 / 0 Not completely accurate as it misses a few kill / loss mails and allied losses. Although don't expect it to be more than 25% off at most. K/D is of course less relevant to territorial warfare, its about who (still) holds the system. I think its still interesting from a PvP combat perspective. (Also feel free to correct me on any spelling errors!) Why couldnt u do this with all those other systems? _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
rValdez5987 Amarr Killed In Action The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.02.26 06:25:00 - [172] Glad to hear that NOL is in BoB's hands once more. Keep up the good fight guys
Brmble Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.26 07:35:00 - [173] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: TWD Originally by: TheAdj Whoever owns Kookman must have a Rapier BPO, we blasted that poor guy everytime he uncloaked. Even got him as my first POS gun victim. Kookman is pretty terrible at PvP, I agree. I've heard the guy can't even tackle a covert ops at his own POS :) c/d Kookman is doing The Five's tactics and strategy in the next tournament? ~ no not believin in urself ~
Twoside Gallente Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2008.02.26 07:39:00 - [174] Originally by: Fire Hawk Wow, where is the usual goon spam gone ? After the last patch, they were replaced by improved spambots Marakor and windypops, they are a far better model and invulnerable to forum moderation ;) (a t2 banstick is being researched though)
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.26 08:22:00 - [175] Edited by: Zorland on 26/02/2008 08:23:15 Originally by: AegriSomnia Edited by: AegriSomnia on 25/02/2008 23:59:37 Originally by: marakor These same problems have applied in every BOB system with a cyno jammer you have taken has it not, so whats the problem now?. No, it hasn't. As someone who has lived in NOL for the past couple of weeks(lag hell), and lost a fair amount of ships(yay, fun!), let me tell you the biggest difference I see so far is the concentration of BoBs assets. In particular, cap ships. Of coarse, the protection the cynojammer gives the cap fleet makes it no risk for BoB to field their caps, but since all of BoB is holed up in one system, with all of their mighty caps hiding under a cyno jammer, I look at the claim in the OP of how they killed all those POSes in more than a week and have to ask, What took you guys so long? Originally by: marakor Need a hurf blurf?. Fixt. Hehe, funny how you always have a reason to whine for a nerf. Listen, if you Goons whine long and loud enough maybe CCP will change the game again and remove cyno jammer so you can kill BOB? They did it before why not again? Something like "buhuhu, this is not EVE online, this is cynojammers online"
Alqualonde Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.26 08:28:00 - [176] Edited by: Alqualonde on 26/02/2008 08:33:45 Well, this topic started civil enough. Aren't there other forums for arguing game mechanics?
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.26 08:31:00 - [177] Just have a look at what side most of the alts are flaming for. ;) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Galaxor Beasts of Burden Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.02.26 08:42:00 - [178] Congratulations BoB, on a well done job. You guys stood your ground, even with the overwhelming odds against you and friends.
Katherine Marx Muff Diving	Posted - 2008.02.26 08:59:00 - [179] Wow.. after an entire year of losing in epic proportions, BoB manages to hold ONE system after one major assault and the forums revert back to the good ole days of BoB smacking, chest beating, and just clearly being as ******** as they used to be while they were the supposed "biggest and bestest mmorpgers in the world." good job guys, i'm sure your mother's are super proud of you.
Hitme Harder HERRO KITTY	Posted - 2008.02.26 09:10:00 - [180] Edited by: Hitme Harder on 26/02/2008 09:12:20 BoB making a lot of noise over NOL. I mean congrats and all, but acknowledge the logistical advantages you have at NOL. Can get capital support in at anytime. Coalition has to suicide battleship fleets to knock out cynojammer deathstar. Killboard porn tbh, not to mention expensive on the common pilot, which effects participation of the more expensive stuff. Corp funded reinforcements. BoB's been uncontested in so many systems for so long, they could probably pay the war bill for both sides for the next decade tbh. Free BPOs and fortunate pirate faction placement helped too~ While the collective whole of the coalition could throw away isk at the same rate as they currently are for the next decade, the coalition doesn't work that way. Capitalism has its downsides. :\ While some selflessly give every isk they have to benefit the cause, others leach coalition conquered resources for personal gain and do not provide any service to the selfless pilots beyond paying taxes. Shameful tbh but what can you do. Resupply will never be closer than a few jumps away, until of course when NOL is taken. BoB resupply is 1 jump away. So BoB have a few logistical advantages. And with the delve node giving reinforcements the proverbial finger, its easy to see why the train hath brakes installed. But we'll disembark the train and march on foot. Logistics will improve, directors will get over their emo rage, and generous donations and the hard working selfless pilots will supply the backbone needed to get the job done. Server willing, it is a challenge that will be overcome. Also, you so do not get goons. Furthermore, AREN'T THEY ADORABLE?

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