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Marina Setoru
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Posted - 2004.04.05 07:51:00 -
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Our small ( 3 members ) corporation has been looking into expanding it's area of operation into 0.0 space and fountain was the region we are most interested in.
This has resulted in a couple of questions:
Who are the fountain alliance?
Who is currently at war with the fountain alliance?
And what would it take too allow a small corp the ability to get a permanent presence there?
And who would I talk to to arrange this?
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Tansien
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Posted - 2004.04.05 08:01:00 -
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I doubt FA would accept you into the alliance, but i'm sure if you ask around and check all the corps, you can find a corperation that has somewhat the same viewpoints as yourself that you can merge with and thus get access to Fountain that way.
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teewii
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Posted - 2004.04.05 08:07:00 -
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Edited by: teewii on 05/04/2004 08:08:15
i doubt alt's are allowed 
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Marina Setoru
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Posted - 2004.04.05 08:35:00 -
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Edited by: Marina Setoru on 05/04/2004 08:45:28
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I doubt FA would accept you into the alliance, but i'm sure if you ask around and check all the corps, you can find a corperation that has somewhat the same viewpoints as yourself that you can merge with and thus get access to Fountain that way.
A merger is not a option, and judging a corp on member count alone would be a mistake IMHO ( just to illustrate what I mean it would take me a whole 5 minutes to ad 4 members to the corp, would make the corp any better? nope, since those 4 members would never ever be online ), but if that would be the case we would have to consider another region for our 0.0 operations. And asking around is what this post is for ;)
And ehm I've got this funny feeling it ain't the alt that's interested.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.04.05 09:18:00 -
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Fact is your corp is too small for an alliance.
You either need to contribute in defence by resources or by militairy and the efford it cost to collect these and keep an eye on this is more trouble than your 3 man corp can ever contribute. It works 2 ways in alliances, you make a strong pressence by aiding in its defences and you get acces to all the high end ores. And to be honnest, 3 people cannot carry that burden. Goodluck.
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Marina Setoru
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Posted - 2004.04.05 09:39:00 -
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Fact is your corp is too small for an alliance.
You either need to contribute in defence by resources or by militairy and the efford it cost to collect these and keep an eye on this is more trouble than your 3 man corp can ever contribute. It works 2 ways in alliances, you make a strong pressence by aiding in its defences and you get acces to all the high end ores. And to be honnest, 3 people cannot carry that burden. Goodluck.
It might be me, but what kind of burden my corp can handle is our problem not yours, and knowing that it's 3 people is hardly enough information to make any assumptions. And who said anything about acces to high end ores? I wasn't expectng to be welcomed with open arms. But a reaction that comes down to recruit 40 n00bs and try again wasn't expected either.
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2004.04.05 10:08:00 -
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It might be me, but what kind of burden my corp can handle is our problem not yours, and knowing that it's 3 people is hardly enough information to make any assumptions.
well, eh.
i'd say the question of what kind of burden a corp can handle is not only your problem, but also of major interest to the alliance you're interested in joining. just my two isk of course. 
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Marina Setoru
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Posted - 2004.04.05 10:45:00 -
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It might be me, but what kind of burden my corp can handle is our problem not yours, and knowing that it's 3 people is hardly enough information to make any assumptions.
well, eh.
i'd say the question of what kind of burden a corp can handle is not only your problem, but also of major interest to the alliance you're interested in joining. just my two isk of course.
True, only ment to say that just knowing that there are 3 members is hardly enough information to judge what a corp can and cannot do.
The original questions remain unanswered though. 
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Odet
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Posted - 2004.04.05 11:30:00 -
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My word of advice, dont join FA.
I cant give anymore details atm, until my issue with them is resolved. But so far the way they carried themselves has been disgraceful. Maybe they'll own up to their mistake and replace my things. But until then my opinion of FA is very poor. Maybe they'll do something to change my opinion about them maybe they wont, we'll see in about 1 week 
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Thrak
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Posted - 2004.04.05 11:31:00 -
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Well, the only real reason you would need to set up permanent residence there is to mine, and 3 people cannot mine as much as 50. And, I would suppose, cannot spare 1 person for defence at the same time.
However if you wanted to join to maintain some sort of financial buying/selling trade then there is no need for you to join - as you could most likely get a business pass, and they would probably tolerate your presence there for prolonged periods if not permanently. |
StellarSheep
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Posted - 2004.04.05 11:49:00 -
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Marina Setoru join channel fountain in game. There u can have more info.
Anyway best option for your corp is cfs space. I mean querious, delve or period basis region. Its open space for evryone and there u have easy npc if u want mine ;)
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.04.05 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: teewii on 05/04/2004 08:08:15
i doubt alt's are allowed
Hey Paranoid one. Here is a thought. Not every one in this game is a spy or an alt.
There are 8k on yesterday.....Hmmmm maybe this person is a former Enb player?
0r just some Noob? get a clue
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Toma Hawk
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Posted - 2004.04.05 12:17:00 -
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recommend CFS to you => http://www.cfs-eve.org/
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Finderne
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Posted - 2004.04.05 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Finderne on 05/04/2004 13:29:46
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i doubt alt's are allowed
Hey Paranoid one. Here is a thought. Not every one in this game is a spy or an alt.
There are 8k on yesterday.....Hmmmm maybe this person is a former Enb player?
0r just some Noob? get a clue
Umm, TIvian, maybe if you read the original post, you woulda spotted the last line (maybe a sig):
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I didn't know how to take that either, so it is hardly flameworthy if someone decided she meant it literally
/edit Oops, forgot to mention this to Marina (& people arguing with her). The real objection to adding 3 person corps to a large alliance is administrative. Every corp that is added makes it that much harder to hold meetings and votes, so it is usually not worth it for the sake of adding a 3 member corp. If the logistics wasn't a problem, then size shouldn't matter. Small corps can't send a full group of fighters to defend, but then again they won't stripmine systems in a day either. It's quite likely that on a per-person basis, her corp can contribute more than most large ones to an alliance. But like I said, too many corps in an alliance and it becomes a logistic nightmare.
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MSteuer
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Posted - 2004.04.05 15:20:00 -
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I wouldn't join FA in the sad state it is in now.
One FA corp actually hired mercenary pirates to attack another corp in the same alliance. I am in the corp that hired them, and I am astonished at their behavior.
Fountain is totally ripe for invasion, they don't have any plans, and a large number of their military apparently left from what I heard to join other corps.
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Marina Setoru
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Posted - 2004.04.05 15:23:00 -
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Apologies for the confusion.
<-- is the alt of one of the members of the corp in question, I have my reasons to post under a alt, and thought it might be handy to mention in the first post that I was a alt, didn't really work as intended.
ATM we're specifically looking at the fountain region, we've visited there a couple of times, and know serpentis well. And travel times from our current empire headquarters are doable.
We might be interested in purchasing minerals from miners in fountain, but we're not really interested in doing mining there ourselfs.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2004.04.05 17:32:00 -
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Corp size and everything else aside there are two needed requirements you have to fullfill to even be considered for membership of the FA.
1) You need to be 'sponsored' by an existing FA corp.
2) You need to write a corp CV for everyone in the FA council to read.
The real hurdle is ofc #1.
Regards
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Lester Mako
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Posted - 2004.04.06 20:12:00 -
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*cough*
You do not want to join the Fountain Alliance.
Trust me.
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Kakalot
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Posted - 2004.04.06 22:23:00 -
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Why?
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HoneyPie
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Posted - 2004.04.07 03:50:00 -
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*cough*
You do not want to join the Fountain Alliance.
Trust me.
Hope ya covered your mouth when you coughed...
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.04.07 15:23:00 -
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knowing that there are 3 members is hardly enough information to judge what a corp can and cannot do.
Yes it is.
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.04.07 15:57:00 -
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whoever that alt is, please contact me ingame, I really need to speak with you.
Otherwise, yeah thats true, I received the same intel. an FA corp hired mercs to attack another FA corp they do not like.(and we are 99% sure who that corp is due to some critical intel we received, have fun when we drop that bomb onto the FA boards)
I have several logs from the mercs that verify this. Now don't get me wrong, I don't hate all of FA, many corps within FA are the best of friends and have my absolute best respect for doing what is right.
The corp that payed them to do it is on a per corpse basis, and the corp is losing money out of their arse. The only thing they've really killed is cruisers and frigs, and one battleship in the 2 weeks they've been harrassing HVI in that area.
The funny thing is they think they are doing damage to HVI. HVI is pulling down about a billion a day somewhere ELSE. stick that in your pipe and smoke it. :)
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teewii
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Posted - 2004.04.07 16:18:00 -
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Why?
among other things they got lester :D
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Stevo
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Posted - 2004.04.07 18:17:00 -
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blahhh fountain is not what its made out to be....Try somewhere else, I promise you will like it better....
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MaryTyler Moore
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Posted - 2004.04.08 05:59:00 -
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Edited by: MaryTyler Moore on 08/04/2004 06:00:41
Yeah, FA has Lester and he owns the only spine and t3st!cl3s in the entire place. |
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