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Haruko Tanaka
Tanaka Stuff and Supplies
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Posted - 2008.03.01 14:12:00 -
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So Bruce is not going against Bob as many thought before. It seems they have thier own plans now ...
Quote: Friedrick gathered everyone on vent in one channel and made some announcements, which I'll try to summarize here. I imagine he'll have more to say on the topics when he has time to post, so feel free to post your questions.
BRUCE has been looking into building a powerbloc of its own to provide greater security to BRUCE and the area.
Black Core Alliance approached us today, regarding terms for surrender & withdrawal from Cloud Ring. In our initial discussions, we demanded their 4 unreinforced Domination POSes, which they agreed to.
As a little back history, originally Black Core Alliance was in discussions on being blue with BRUCE, but RECON offered them an outpost in Cloud Ring (where they live), so in the end they chose to be friendly with RECON rather than BRUCE who was in the next region over, a choice that BRUCE might have made in a similar situation.
Black Core Alliance [-BCA-] was never really our primary target, RECON is, but 9-4RP2 is a strategically important system that lets us box bisect the other two station systems and lock-in XZH, hence it being the first strike.
Upon further discussion we suggested to Black Core Alliance that they might want to join our 'western league' as it were, siding with us rather than Reckoning. After some discussion, -BCA- accepted and will be one of a few groups sponsored by BRUCE in Cloud Ring. We hope in time these groups will be able to grow and become strong, mutually supporting, equal allies.
-BCA- will still be turning over 4 fitted Domination POSes to us which will be put to good use by our FCs. -BCA- has been set to blue to BRUCE and vice versa. We now have docking rights in 9-4RP2 and RECON docking rights have been revoked. (Please don't park ships in the station though, just to be on safe side).
-BCA- requested that they not be asked to shoot RECON during this war, so as not to be put in the position of backstabbing their former allies. We agreed and this shows some signs of good character on their part. At a future date they will fully participate in defense against all hostiles (including RECON etc.).
Meanwhile, this lets us push further and harder against RECON directly, while picking up about 5B worth of POS towers, mods, etc.
Additionally, BRUCE down the road will be able to setup a jumpbridge to F7C-H0, providing a route to low-sec Placid, only a few jumps from high sec.
Long live the BRUCEs \o/
Discuss ...
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Mozana
x13
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Posted - 2008.03.01 14:16:00 -
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ok
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.01 14:19:00 -
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Great to see BRUCE doing well IMO.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Angelik'a
Gallente Ahaha I made this corp so I could post in COAD
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Posted - 2008.03.01 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Angelik''a on 01/03/2008 14:41:18 Not exactly a big secret btw.
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Franssart Darrell
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.01 14:37:00 -
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Yawn I'm on vacation from Corps and Alliances |
Nigel Cooke
Unknown Soldiers
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Posted - 2008.03.01 14:45:00 -
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That shows nothing about BoB...there is the North and South, they seem to be making a West. And we know the East is ISK farmers lol. Examine your post and consider "Do Overs"
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Serene Star
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Posted - 2008.03.01 15:13:00 -
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Said the bitter ex RISE member.... yawn
Im sure BRUCE had their own plans anyway, not someone elses....?
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TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.01 15:40:00 -
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The only question is, why anybody would want BCA in their "powerblock".
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Executor Shiro
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Posted - 2008.03.01 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Executor Shiro on 01/03/2008 15:41:04 Your post fails.
Bruce does not have pets. Also from what I've read by the few Bruces who ever post here (getting them to post in CAOD is like pulling teeth) they consider the word 'pet' to be a derogatory BoB invention. |
Friedrick Psitalon
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.01 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Friedrick Psitalon on 01/03/2008 15:43:44 /me chuckles.
So let's see here. You've told people:
1- That BRUCE has a spy in its ranks. With almost 3000 members, that's a given. 2- That we don't intend to screw BCA over, and we're happy that they also want to act honorably. 3- That we intend to build a power bloc of safety and security in our own area, with our own agenda. (If this surprises you, read the COAD more.) 4- That the kind of folks we're looking for are reasonable, intelligent, and honest. 5- That while we have strong connections, we're independent and no one's flunkie.
Thanks for the positive press release!
Just one thing, though: You'll note we never use the word "pets" and indeed, in that thread you're quoting from, the word pet is deliberately targeted as a "no-no." BRUCE doesn't believe in pets; it believes in equal members who work together out of a mutual friendship and respect. We believe that even calling someone a "pet" is in itself derogatory and rank-claiming. We've never been about that, past or present.
But hey - thanks for the recruiting blip.
I can confirm that the above post is 100% true!
LONG LIVE THE BRUCES! o/
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Lazuran
Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.01 15:52:00 -
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BRUCE is the new ASCN. ;-)
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Aurix Lexico
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.03.01 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lazuran BRUCE is the new ASCN. ;-)
I'm down with this
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kittie kat
Republic University
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Posted - 2008.03.01 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lazuran BRUCE is the new ASCN. ;-)
Sure they are...if ASCN was 75%+ pvp and learned the ropes in syndicate...i agree
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.01 16:33:00 -
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This works for me.
Go BRUCE Go, do what you have to, to secure your future.
-- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Mike Huckabee
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.03.01 16:47:00 -
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Midgath Stallsman is the nicest person I know in Bruce.
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No1ne
Caldari NEXT LEVEL The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.01 17:37:00 -
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I just hope the battle for XZH will be plenty of fun (but i doubt it .. since the lag) ----------------------------------
....Next Level |
Re Mi
Caldari Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.03.01 21:28:00 -
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Are you serious? Is this serious business? Its hard to say.
The idea that Bruce has pets is kind of funny though.
Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation |
Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.02 00:39:00 -
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So, to sum up:
BRUCE want to start work on the new, post-BOB western powerbloc. BRUCE have got some nice POS loot. BRUCE are going to keep fighting the people they're already fighting. Some other general housekeeping.
This is a drama bomb how? ------
Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways. |
Oregon sinful
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 01:19:00 -
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Was nice how bca back stabbed reckoning the way they did eh?
Only thing i can say is that recon has no problem shooting BCA, even if they don't shoot back. Oh, and don't worry, we have plans for down the road already in place.
Oh and btw it's not just bruce, it's pure, DMC and BCA against recon now... blob much?
POST WITH YOUR MAIN OR STFU - No respect for alts. |
pershphanie
Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.03.02 01:37:00 -
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When the going gets tuff, surrender.
that's a ***** move BCA. GL being a bruce pet. |
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.03.02 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86 So, to sum up:
BRUCE want to start work on the new, post-BOB western powerbloc. BRUCE have got some nice POS loot. BRUCE are going to keep fighting the people they're already fighting. Some other general housekeeping.
This is a drama bomb how?
Dunno. This is CAOD. The amount of ****, drivel, drama and crap that drains here is so much that created some sort of singularity, where everyones' reality perception is totally different from the norm, and where drama bombs are dependent of the poster's vision of what is a drama bomb infact. It's a scary world.
*queue in 5th dimension tune* ---
Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards |
anidaG
Gallente Momentum. The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 02:21:00 -
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Bruce, you talk about honor, yet we have some people signing in on our vent with names of our alts and on call if their name they exit, it's not kinda a meaning of an honorable war, isn't it) BCA, well I do get their point, their system got invaded, some poses got shot out due to no stront in them, crap defence on cyno jammer pos and station full of bpos and such camped by hostiles, yes, this move towards bruce is the most loss minimizing move. But, they did it silently, didn't even speak with their allies about it. About bca not willing to attack recon, they've been trying to keep that will the whole evening yesterday, they've failed) I do believe that there are people in bca that are not happy about move to bruce and are not willing to fight against recon, I know couple of guys who really don't want to shoot me and the same can be said about me shooting them, but the fact that some people are means that they've not been told by the leadership otherwise. Leadership represent the alliance, so, overall bca really are to be called backstabbers as an alliance, and not because they have bruce blue, but because of how they did it. Bruces, good luck with them as allies))) About pets, representing ranking in powerblock - ranking has to exist, otherwise it's an anarchy and the powerblock is vulnerable. So, meaning "pets" maybe is not in the past or present of bruce, but it's in the future)))
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Sovarin
Caldari The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.02 02:22:00 -
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We allways honor our word. We agreed to not activly shoot recon out of respect, one they dont honor but neither the less. As for the backstabbing comments alot of recon have been mentioning, final convos with recon ended as: "BCA have done well by us, you do whats best for your alliance". This was expressed by recon HC, (to all those recks who have nothing better to do). As soon as recon was informed that our alliances best interested was to join a western force, is when certain members of recon took this as a personal "backstabbing" movement, when bascially we are just looking out for out best interests.
Everything else is history and present.
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Crystal Starbreeze
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sovarin We allways honor our word. We agreed to not activly shoot recon out of respect, one they dont honor but neither the less. As for the backstabbing comments alot of recon have been mentioning, final convos with recon ended as: "BCA have done well by us, you do whats best for your alliance". This was expressed by recon HC, (to all those recks who have nothing better to do). As soon as recon was informed that our alliances best interested was to join a western force, is when certain members of recon took this as a personal "backstabbing" movement, when bascially we are just looking out for out best interests.
Everything else is history and present.
You know what those exact words were said, we sort of understood your position. Were we dissapointed, YES, but only because people we treated as friends turned within hours of hard times.
Now the calling you worthless pieces of Sh*t and backstabbers came after BCA members started spying for Bruce and doing stuff OUTSIDE of the scope of the normal game. For example going as far as to use one of the admin accounts of the vent server we gave you in good faith (when we were friends fighting side by side so your leaders could help) and right before hostilities started in G8 , Kicked everybody out of a passworded channel (You were ****ed we did that in order to prevent spies) and banned all the admins.... Really crappy. It didn't hurt us in the end as we had the overall admin account to fix it relatively soon but still it really shows how far Bruce/BCA will go. I had respect, lots of respect for both parties, till this sh*t happened. Now i have none.
When that type of crap happens we say F-U I stole this image because it was fitting, Sorry!
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RaV1N
Caldari The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.02 03:50:00 -
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Oh come now, you don't really expect to have a sovereignty war and have your vent/TS not spied on by the very people you gave admin rights too. You should of cleared the account as soon as you knew and not relied on others to do your job for you.
I mean really this is serious business son!
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Dachtor
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.02 04:01:00 -
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Exactly, Havnt you heard this is a universe where people stop playing a game and become scum.
Sounds like Bruce and BCA really have no honor.
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Zathi Shaitan
Minmatar Illiteracy Combatants
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Posted - 2008.03.02 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dachtor become scum.
You certainly did.
Originally by: Dachtor
Sounds like Bruce and BCA really have no honor.
Sounds like you can't read.
Originally by: Dachtor
Havnt
"Haven't".. you also can't type.
You fail.
---- " Several unconventional alliances where made at that point " - Hey CCP, "where" != "were".. you too, Brutus? |
anidaG
Gallente Momentum. The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 05:42:00 -
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Edited by: anidaG on 02/03/2008 05:42:12 BCA guy just got spotted trying to steal unpiloted ships at our pos - do you call this respectful and notbackstabbing?)))) Bullcrap)
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MonkSEALPup
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 05:49:00 -
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Thank God we dont fight on the forums, because this crap is unbearable. Metagaming - it happens. Its part of Eve, just like "blobbing", just like backstabbing.
The facts are simple BCA - in less than 24 hours after being seiged you handed over your faction POSs and control of a station we gave to you, and allowed our enemies to start docking there - one jump from our two stations. You are just really, really pathetic. BRUCE leaves you there because you are weak, and in no way a threat. I harbor no ill will towards BRUCE. In fact, we have never even spoken with BRUCE. Hard to be angry with someone for PVPing with us when that is what we enjoy. They see a chance to take space and they are taking it, albiet with the help of Pure., DMC, and now, BCA. The 250-350 people seiging a system in CR is just funny, but we are proud that BRUCE has learned to respect us enough to bring that many pilots to take us on. The part where a BCA guy logs into our vent and starts kicking people made me laugh. Seriously. Its just funny. I enjoy every bit if this game, this situation, this backstabbing. Its what is great about EVE.
But know this, BCA, if you think for one second that you are going to have a "snowballs chance" of enjoying Cloud Ring in peace as a BRUCE pet, think again. We'll be seeing you, mmkay?
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Araqnid
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: anidaG Edited by: anidaG on 02/03/2008 05:42:12 BCA guy just got spotted trying to steal unpiloted ships at our pos - do you call this respectful and notbackstabbing?)))) Bullcrap)
Seriously - it sucks but it's a legitimate game mechanic. Don't start whining about it on the forums ffs. I would do it to them in a heartbeat, and so would you.
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