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El Muerte
The Nine Gates Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.02 06:36:00 -
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Edited by: El Muerte on 02/03/2008 07:04:06
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Aarthorn
Amarr Facta Non Verba Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.02 07:16:00 -
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I think it is time some issues here are addressed and corrected. it was not till 48 hours into the siege that talks with bruce started. At this time Recon had offered not support, sat in xzh and seeing how fast the pos's have come down must have been preparing there own evacuation without telling us.
Monk convo'd us 10 mins after the talks with bruce and before the agreement was in effect. He was understandably upset and angry with BCA but at the same time he didn't seem to care to listen to reason.
as stated already we did not wish to fire upon recon but within 10 mins of our discussion with monk one of our pilots was shot down in a hulk. and yet Still at the time of this post the standing order is not to hunt recon. I'm not sure considering this forum thread how long that order will stay in effect.
I'd also like to add that on the Recon vent server BCA was given 1 main chat channel and 2 gang channels, we asked for more channel or admin rights to make more but that never happened so where this story of a BCA member kicking people came from i'm not sure, to my knowledge no one in BCA had admin rights to the recon vent server.
I wish Recon all the best in there future plans and will end this post with one word of advice, do yerselves a favour and stop argueing amongst yourselfs and start to respect eachother.
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2008.03.02 07:28:00 -
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Thanks for showing us that you are one of 1000 spies within BRUCE  -
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Nigel Cooke
Unknown Soldiers
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Posted - 2008.03.02 08:01:00 -
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Edited by: Nigel Cooke on 02/03/2008 08:01:55
Originally by: MonkSEALPup In fact, we have never even spoken with BRUCE.
funny that Reckoning speaks of honor and spies in use... <cough>HawaiianMonkSEAL employmenthistory<cough>
give em hell BRUCE
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Hexman
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 08:11:00 -
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Edited by: Hexman on 02/03/2008 08:11:48 lulz?
*cough*stop smoking cheap chamomile*cough*
Originally by: Nigel Cooke Edited by: Nigel Cooke on 02/03/2008 08:01:55
Originally by: MonkSEALPup In fact, we have never even spoken with BRUCE.
funny that Reckoning speaks of honor and spies in use... <cough>HawaiianMonkSEAL employmenthistory<cough>
give em hell BRUCE
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MonkSEALPup
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Nigel Cooke
funny that Reckoning speaks of honor and spies in use... <cough>HawaiianMonkSEAL employmenthistory<cough>
give em hell BRUCE
OMG I'm busted! There is no other possible explanation! I'm spying with my super secret alt whose name can never be traced!
BCA intel ftl
/me high fives my spy alt
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Hexman
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 08:23:00 -
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Well, BCA trying to justify/minimize/explain their bending over and saying aaaahhh reminds me of this:
Arguing your point...
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MonkSEALPup
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 08:28:00 -
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Edited by: MonkSEALPup on 02/03/2008 08:29:03
Originally by: Hexman Well, BCA trying to justify/minimize/explain their bending over and saying aaaahhh reminds me of this:
Arguing your point...
tbh we were "we todd it" before this...
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Drantis
PURE Legion Pure.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: Drantis on 02/03/2008 09:29:21 Edited by: Drantis on 02/03/2008 09:29:00 Just for info - PURE is not "specifically" attacked Recon - the pilots over there are just raiding, like they have been doing with you guys for some 2 months"ish" now, most of my guys are elsewhere or should be LOL
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Crimsonjade
Anger Management
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Posted - 2008.03.02 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 02/03/2008 01:40:33 When the going gets tuff, surrender.
that's a ***** move BCA. GL being a bruce pet.
O.o your one to talk rofl. FE(allaince) vs the (5) and you did pretty much the same thing
simply amazing Persh
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TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.02 14:04:00 -
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Sad to see Reckoning get bandwagoned and betrayed.
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pershphanie
Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.03.02 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Crimsonjade
Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 02/03/2008 01:40:33 When the going gets tuff, surrender.
that's a ***** move BCA. GL being a bruce pet.
O.o your one to talk rofl. FE(allaince) vs the (5) and you did pretty much the same thing
simply amazing Persh
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Angelik'a
Gallente Ahaha I made this corp so I could post in COAD
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Posted - 2008.03.02 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Aarthorn I think it is time some issues here are addressed and corrected. it was not till 48 hours into the siege that talks with bruce started. At this time Recon had offered not support, sat in xzh and seeing how fast the pos's have come down must have been preparing there own evacuation without telling us.
Monk convo'd us 10 mins after the talks with bruce and before the agreement was in effect. He was understandably upset and angry with BCA but at the same time he didn't seem to care to listen to reason.
as stated already we did not wish to fire upon recon but within 10 mins of our discussion with monk one of our pilots was shot down in a hulk. and yet Still at the time of this post the standing order is not to hunt recon. I'm not sure considering this forum thread how long that order will stay in effect.
I'd also like to add that on the Recon vent server BCA was given 1 main chat channel and 2 gang channels, we asked for more channel or admin rights to make more but that never happened so where this story of a BCA member kicking people came from i'm not sure, to my knowledge no one in BCA had admin rights to the recon vent server.
I wish Recon all the best in there future plans and will end this post with one word of advice, do yerselves a favour and stop argueing amongst yourselfs and start to respect eachother.
You don't need to explain **** to them.
Point is BCA waited 48 hours for RECON to make a move, but they done f- all. Best allies in teh game tbh.
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gamertrav
Momentum. The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: gamertrav on 02/03/2008 17:42:02 I just wanna say I've had some fun fights out of this, despite how massively outnumbered we are. The battle we had a couple weeks ago in xzh was great, after the initial lag (was lagged for both sides), we killed something like 90 battleships in that fight, also took some losses including a carrier. I play this game for the pvp so props to BRUCE for bringing it. Like Monk said, I think it says something about RECON that the enemy brings 250man gangs to take our space. We've also had a couple of good engagements with DMC, although we won decisively on both occasions.
BCA, you are backstabbers and cowards, I've never seen anyone surrender so fast. You are fitting candidates as pets in the great western napfest. I look forward to blowing up your ships in the future.
As for the vent thing...meh **** happens. It's all part of the game, and also part of what's great about it. Disrupting your enemies communications can have a devastating effect in RL, and also in eve, although in this case it was poorly timed, and only caused a slight delay :)
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Nizomi
Caldari Technopolis Ventures
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: gamertrav Like Monk said, I think it says something about RECON that the enemy brings 250man gangs to take our space.
Kinda sounds like the time when Triumvirate took the space from youwhat
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SamuraiJack
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.03.02 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lazuran BRUCE is the new ASCN. ;-)
so being nice and having a stable region and a damn good market so you dont have to trawl back to empire every 5mins to get stuff is wrong is it?
oh yeah sorry. this is griefers and asshats online isnt it. sorry.
=-
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Maladora
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.02 18:36:00 -
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shobon
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Funkcikle
Gallente DEATHFUNK Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 19:10:00 -
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Up the BRUCE
/me hoots and whistles chanting pro bruce slogans
seriously, The Bruce rock True leadership is being able to dress down shadowjet in a Full TS channel and make the obnoxious little fella basically cry Fried, whilst your shipfittings remain.. to my mind,.. somewhat questionable, your leadership and the sheer marvelousness of BRUCE do not.
sadly I was kidnapped by pirates and brainwashed to the dark side
Save me Brucy1 your my only hope "Brrzzpt"
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.03.02 19:17:00 -
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who?
Originally by: Atomos Darksun What's the difference between an alt poster and a leech?
One is a blood sucking parasite, the other is a leech.
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Dirty Spy
EVE Spy Network
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Posted - 2008.03.02 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: gamertrav Like Monk said, I think it says something about RECON that the enemy brings 250man gangs to take our space.
Agreed,
It says BRUCE can field a 250 man gang, and that RECON can not.
EVE Spy Network - Where Leaks Happen.
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Angelik'a
Gallente Ahaha I made this corp so I could post in COAD
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Posted - 2008.03.02 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: gamertrav BCA, you are backstabbers and cowards, I've never seen anyone surrender so fast. You are fitting candidates as pets in the great western napfest. I look forward to blowing up your ships in the future.
I've never seen anyone step up to help their allies so fast like RECON. Oh wait...
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Beckys CreamyGoodness
Caldari Bookham Research
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Posted - 2008.03.02 21:59:00 -
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Seems to me that BCA were RECON pets, but RECON mistook them for allies. Allies fight along side each other, pets look to their masters for protection.
BCA is whining that RECON didn't save them, when BCA and RECON both say it was only 1 or 2 days before BCA submitted to BRUCE and became their pet. That means that a POS didn't even come out of reinforce before BCA surrendered, right? Correct me on that if I am wrong. What would BCA want RECON to do, build a time machine to take the POSs out of reinforce for them? BCA had no intention of fighting, and surrendered before the fight began. Now BCA are on here complaining that RECON didnt save them. BCA and RECON are similar in size, right? Why is it RECON's job to save them? BCA should have developed a defense plan and asked RECON to help implement it. Instead, BCA takes the cowards way out by bending over for BRUCE and friends and embarks on a forum campaign to save face. The fact is that you never put up a fight at all, BCA, and never intended to.
Face it RECON, BCA were your pets - not allies. Now they have new masters who better understand what BCA are, and won't be disappointed by them as you were.
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Attak
Trioptimum Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.03.02 22:25:00 -
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This thread is too good to be true. WTG BRUCE!
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jerrard iceni
Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.03.03 00:02:00 -
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i remember BRUCE from when they where starting out in that system near joveianon (cant remember the name atm). good bunch of guys. seemed to be built on a similar mode as frontier co-operative that hung around there b4 them.
anyways its good to see an alliance like BRUCE doing so well. there are certainly a few 'bigger' alliances out in 0.0 that could learn a thing or two on how to act from BRUCE.
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Le Cardinal
ECP Rogues The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.03.03 10:26:00 -
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Quote:
Well, to avoid any rumors and stuff like that ill give a "short" briefing on what has happened so far.
3 days before the attack we got the intel that Bruce planned to attack CR along with DMC and Pure. This was the intel. First sign was night to thursday european time when DMC jumped into F7C and attacked our jumpbridge. We manned the guns and pretty soon chased them away. They lost 10 battleships, and we lost some tacklers. We had 1 more skirmish against them in F7C and quickly dispatched them at that fight as well. Thats pretty much what we have seen from DMC.
Bruce invaded 9-4 later thursday night. BCA were helpless against this attack, which noone blames them for. Their cynojammer were, however, poorly fit, and they had 2 pos's without stront in them. Needless to say these were destroyed pretty fast. After the cynojammer was gone Bruce jumped in 60'ish caps.
Meanwhile Recon leadership was working on some solutions. We talked with BCA lead, where they informed us they were probably gonna surrender. Cant really blame them for that either. We told them to hold on for a few hours more until we got an answer from another possible part in this conflict. BCA gave us the impression that they were surrendering to get their stuff out. However, they made a deal with bruce so they could keep 9-4. This deal included BCA giving Bruce some Shadow (or sansha) towers, pluss giving bruce insta access to 9-4 station. This happened before the time limit we asked for them to keep. Then BCA turned totally around, put Bruce on blue, and us on red so they could continue to live in CR. Then they came up with an excuse about not aggroing Recon etc etc. I want to point out very clearly that WE gave BCA 9-4 to begin with. We invited them to CLoud RIng cause we werent keen on holding 3 stations.
With 9-4 down it became inevitable that we would not be able to defend G8 and XZH at the same time. So we quickly secured all assets we have, including capital ships. Anything else wouldnt make sence. The numbers we are facing is just too big (no offence to Bruce, they do what they have to do). G8 became Bruce's next target and they took down jammer and jumped caps in. We repped some pos mods, but it was clr that we couldnt keep G8 in the long run.
Yesterday Bruce attacked F7C, took down cynojammer and jumped in caps. I dont know how this ended, as it was right after most EU players had gone to bed (or should have ^^). Thats when Bruce usually attack us. I was locked out of the system (they attacked jb) so i could only listen on ventrilo at that time.
We bear no ill feelings towards Bruce. They are a worthy opponent, but they outnumber us 5:1/6:1 in the majority of engagements. We respect this. DMC and BCA, well im not gonna express my feelings towards them here. We will do our best to keep a last stance in CR, but Bruce outnumber us by far both in pilots and Capital strenght.
Pure claims they are not part of this conflict, but they have had many roaming gangs in our space and do have pilots in bruce gangs on many/most occassions.
As a reply to BCA lead. 48 hours is simply not true. As a matter of fact its an outright lie. I was there when u informed us, and we asked u to hold out for 12 more hours. 6 hours later u surrendered to Bruce and made the deal. Try to spin it as much as u like to justify it.
This is not a whine. We live with our decisions and actions. We will do our best to make you bleed. This is eve. Nothing comes easy and rest assured that it will not for you either, wether we fall or not. Thats it from me. I ask for Recon members to not respond any more to this thread.
-LeC
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Donna Maria
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.03.03 21:35:00 -
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More Cowbell
-Hey R.e.c.o.n U can still camp F7c all damn day. Hostiles in your area and you camp F7c. WTF. Sounds like BCA did the right thing. Im the girl momma warned you about..
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Gary John
Gaming Organization
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Posted - 2008.03.03 21:36:00 -
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BRUCE: Great alliance, or the greatest alliance?
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Desiderata Fabian
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 21:45:00 -
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Pffft like an alliance that comes out of JQV, grows large, goes on to take conq 0.0 and forms a power bloc; will be a success. 
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