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Jones Maloy Unified Naval Command	Posted - 2008.03.24 11:53:00 - [151] Originally by: ElCoCo It's just weird sometimes... Flying amarr myself (and to the max with my alt) and being -generaly- pleased with the ships, I have a question for those requesting buffs on lasers: Why is the ammo-less aspect of them always forgotten? (now noone says anything about volatility now, you know what I mean!) we do use ammo. it's called capacitor. Unofficial Official Jita Fubar Thread
Lyria Skydancer Home 0f Bored Occultists	Posted - 2008.03.24 12:55:00 - [152] Originally by: Jones Maloy Originally by: ElCoCo It's just weird sometimes... Flying amarr myself (and to the max with my alt) and being -generaly- pleased with the ships, I have a question for those requesting buffs on lasers: Why is the ammo-less aspect of them always forgotten? (now noone says anything about volatility now, you know what I mean!) we do use ammo. it's called capacitor. And people can steal our ammo with a high slot module called neuts. WTB high slot module that steals minmatar ammo -------------------------------------- [Video]Skirmish Warfare II
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.24 17:46:00 - [153] Originally by: Goumindong Tachyons + cap bonus vs 425s+ dmg bonus gives two weapons with the same DPS, except the 425s are much much easier to fit and have a longer range. edit: The abaddon requires 2 RCUIIs and an injector to run them. A Paladin is a not a fleet ship, Tach Abaddon does 43% more damage than a 425mm Megathron with the same number of dam mods. Forty. Three. Percent. 27 percent more damage if Abaddon has just two dam mods to Mega's three. -- Gradient forum
Lyria Skydancer Home 0f Bored Occultists	Posted - 2008.03.24 17:47:00 - [154] Originally by: Theron Gyrow Originally by: Goumindong Tachyons + cap bonus vs 425s+ dmg bonus gives two weapons with the same DPS, except the 425s are much much easier to fit and have a longer range. edit: The abaddon requires 2 RCUIIs and an injector to run them. A Paladin is a not a fleet ship, Tach Abaddon does 43% more damage than a 425mm Megathron with the same number of dam mods. Forty. Three. Percent. 27 percent more damage if Abaddon has just two dam mods to Mega's three. And for how long can an abaddon fire those tachs if I might ask? What does your eft say? Have you even fitted it? -------------------------------------- [Video]Skirmish Warfare II
Borasao Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.24 17:49:00 - [155] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer What does your eft say? Heh... nice insult As soon as I read it, all I could think of was "Where is your God now?"
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.24 18:24:00 - [156] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Theron Gyrow Originally by: Goumindong Tachyons + cap bonus vs 425s+ dmg bonus gives two weapons with the same DPS, except the 425s are much much easier to fit and have a longer range. edit: The abaddon requires 2 RCUIIs and an injector to run them. A Paladin is a not a fleet ship, Tach Abaddon does 43% more damage than a 425mm Megathron with the same number of dam mods. Forty. Three. Percent. 27 percent more damage if Abaddon has just two dam mods to Mega's three. And for how long can an abaddon fire those tachs if I might ask? What does your eft say? Have you even fitted it? You may: much longer than a Megathron without a cap booster. Homework for you: try fitting both a Megathron and an Abaddon. Report on the advantages of both before you continue asking for another tach (ship) boost. -- Gradient forum
Lyria Skydancer Home 0f Bored Occultists	Posted - 2008.03.24 18:37:00 - [157] Originally by: Borasao Originally by: Lyria Skydancer What does your eft say? Heh... nice insult As soon as I read it, all I could think of was "Where is your God now?" Well we gotta have a little fun while discussing stuff. -------------------------------------- [Video]Skirmish Warfare II
Goumindong Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:27:00 - [158] Originally by: Theron Gyrow Originally by: Goumindong Tachyons + cap bonus vs 425s+ dmg bonus gives two weapons with the same DPS, except the 425s are much much easier to fit and have a longer range. edit: The abaddon requires 2 RCUIIs and an injector to run them. A Paladin is a not a fleet ship, Tach Abaddon does 43% more damage than a 425mm Megathron with the same number of dam mods. Forty. Three. Percent. 27 percent more damage if Abaddon has just two dam mods to Mega's three. What is the optimal range on the megathron? how many hit points does it have? How long can it shoot? Vote Goumindong for CSM
Etho Demerzel Holy Clan of the Cone	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:00:00 - [159] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Theron Gyrow Originally by: Goumindong Tachyons + cap bonus vs 425s+ dmg bonus gives two weapons with the same DPS, except the 425s are much much easier to fit and have a longer range. edit: The abaddon requires 2 RCUIIs and an injector to run them. A Paladin is a not a fleet ship, Tach Abaddon does 43% more damage than a 425mm Megathron with the same number of dam mods. Forty. Three. Percent. 27 percent more damage if Abaddon has just two dam mods to Mega's three. What is the optimal range on the megathron? how many hit points does it have? How long can it shoot? You are a hell of a whiner, aren't you? You and Lyria make me sick. The apocalypse has been changed into the best sniper in the game. You say it is overpowered and at the same time you say Tachyons should be improved. It is clear that the INTENDED purpose of current dynamics is to make tachyons, which are THE most damaging long range weapons in the game, useable by it and it alone. If you insist on fitting tachyons on Abaddons or Geddons(God knows why), you HAVE to compromise. Take the damn MWD from the ship. It is not as if you can fit 425 and go happily sniping on a Domi or a Raven or even a Scorpion. If tachyons work well in the Apocalypse then it is all good. You are exactly in the same place as Caldari regarding sniping. You have one good sniping ship... ===== "If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs." - CCP kieron...
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:17:00 - [160] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Theron Gyrow Tach Abaddon does 43% more damage than a 425mm Megathron with the same number of dam mods. Forty. Three. Percent. 27 percent more damage if Abaddon has just two dam mods to Mega's three. What is the optimal range on the megathron? how many hit points does it have? How long can it shoot? You want to change the tachs. You supply the numbers. Or shut up. -- Gradient forum
Lyria Skydancer Home 0f Bored Occultists	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:40:00 - [161] Originally by: Etho Demerzel If you insist on fitting tachyons on Abaddons or Geddons(God knows why), you HAVE to compromise. Take the damn MWD from the ship. It is not as if you can fit 425 and go happily sniping on a Domi or a Raven or even a Scorpion. Id like to see you go tell your FC that your sniper BS doesnt have an MWD. He'll spit in ya face methinks. -------------------------------------- [Video]Skirmish Warfare II
Lyria Skydancer Home 0f Bored Occultists	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:41:00 - [162] Originally by: Theron Gyrow Originally by: Goumindong Tachyons + cap bonus vs 425s+ dmg bonus gives two weapons with the same DPS, except the 425s are much much easier to fit and have a longer range. edit: The abaddon requires 2 RCUIIs and an injector to run them. A Paladin is a not a fleet ship, Tach Abaddon does 43% more damage than a 425mm Megathron with the same number of dam mods. Forty. Three. Percent. 27 percent more damage if Abaddon has just two dam mods to Mega's three. You ofcrouse are oblivious of the fact that there is something called range vs damage balance in eve. gg. -------------------------------------- [Video]Skirmish Warfare II
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.24 21:15:00 - [163] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Theron Gyrow Originally by: Goumindong Tachyons + cap bonus vs 425s+ dmg bonus gives two weapons with the same DPS, except the 425s are much much easier to fit and have a longer range. edit: The abaddon requires 2 RCUIIs and an injector to run them. Tach Abaddon does 43% more damage than a 425mm Megathron with the same number of dam mods. Forty. Three. Percent. 27 percent more damage if Abaddon has just two dam mods to Mega's three. You ofcrouse are oblivious of the fact that there is something called range vs damage balance in eve. gg. Hello? You're the ones claiming that tachyons are underpowered. Show us some proof or shut up, ok? -- Gradient forum
Lyria Skydancer Home 0f Bored Occultists	Posted - 2008.03.24 21:19:00 - [164] Originally by: Theron Gyrow Hello? You're the ones claiming that tachyons are underpowered. Show us some proof or shut up, ok? My statement still stands true about your statement. -------------------------------------- [Video]Skirmish Warfare II
Etho Demerzel Holy Clan of the Cone	Posted - 2008.03.24 21:34:00 - [165] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Etho Demerzel If you insist on fitting tachyons on Abaddons or Geddons(God knows why), you HAVE to compromise. Take the damn MWD from the ship. It is not as if you can fit 425 and go happily sniping on a Domi or a Raven or even a Scorpion. Id like to see you go tell your FC that your sniper BS doesnt have an MWD. He'll spit in ya face methinks. Only if he is an idiot who knows only how to deal with cookie-cutter strategies. Anyway, even if it would be true, you can just use an Apocalypse with MWD to perform the role it is MADE to perform, God forbid it. Point is, if you want more damage in the form of the abaddon you have to give up on something. The Tachyon Apocalypse WITHOUT damage bonuses outdamages and outranges a rail Megathron, fires forever without reload times and can use the MWD for more time if needed. So use your brain once in your lifetime and use the other Amarr battleships for close combat where they excel. ===== "If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs." - CCP kieron...
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.24 21:37:00 - [166] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Theron Gyrow Hello? You're the ones claiming that tachyons are underpowered. Show us some proof or shut up, ok? My statement still stands true about your statement. So, your claim is that 43% damage advantage is not enough compensation for 16% range disadvantage (or 27% damage for 8% range disadvantage)? Or perhaps you are claiming that the new Apoc's 16% range advantage combined with its 14% damage advantage is still underpowered? Remember, you are claiming that tachs need a boost. -- Gradient forum
Lyria Skydancer Home 0f Bored Occultists	Posted - 2008.03.24 21:41:00 - [167] Originally by: Theron Gyrow Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Theron Gyrow Hello? You're the ones claiming that tachyons are underpowered. Show us some proof or shut up, ok? My statement still stands true about your statement. So, your claim is that 43% damage advantage is not enough compensation for 16% range disadvantage (or 27% damage for 8% range disadvantage)? Or perhaps you are claiming that the new Apoc's 16% range advantage combined with its 14% damage advantage is still underpowered? Remember, you are claiming that tachs need a boost. You can never compare pure dps on long range weapons. They are always balanced with range. Mostly the higher dps weapon has shorter range. -------------------------------------- [Video]Skirmish Warfare II

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