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Lirt
Ceratias Holboelli
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Posted - 2008.03.02 04:49:00 -
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Edited by: Lirt on 02/03/2008 04:49:17
Edited by: Lirt on 02/03/2008 04:49:06
Torpedoes short range---------------------------check
Blasters/Autocannons/Pulses short range------check
Torpedoes can hit only BS--------------------------check
Blasters/Autocannons/Pulses can hit everything-----check
Explain?
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.02 04:57:00 -
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You got it wrong there. Its pulses that can hit everything not autocannons.
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MenanceWhite
Amarr
Fruit Fellatio
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Posted - 2008.03.02 04:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Lirt
Torpedoes can hit only BS--------------------------check
I think Lirt is a pretty cool guy eh makes up bullcrap and doesnt afraid of anything
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There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.02 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: MenanceWhite
Originally by: Lirt
Torpedoes can hit only BS--------------------------check
I think Lirt is a pretty cool guy eh makes up bullcrap and doesnt afraid of anything
he's probably the surprise secks bear partner of jojo
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Frug
Repo Industries
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.03.02 05:03:00 -
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Edited by: Frug on 02/03/2008 05:03:09
Originally by: MenanceWhite
I think Lirt is a pretty cool guy eh makes up bullcrap and doesnt afraid of anything
Signed. He is welcome to shoot at my crow with his large blasters too.
Originally by: Lirt
Explain?
You're a noob
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Wu Jiun
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Posted - 2008.03.02 05:52:00 -
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Edited by: Wu Jiun on 02/03/2008 05:52:58
Originally by: Nasta443
You got it wrong there. Its pulses that can hit everything not autocannons.
lol. you obviously never flew a pulse boat. stop whining and get some skills man. or train
for a pulse boat and be done with it if theyre that uber.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.03.02 05:57:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 02/03/2008 06:01:33
guns have sig radius
protip
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.02 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
guns have sig radius
And ponies!
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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari
Stickler inc
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Posted - 2008.03.02 06:05:00 -
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You obviously missed the time I one-shotted an inty with a torp raven 
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.02 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Nasta443
Originally by: MotherMoon
guns have sig radius
And ponies!
******* PONIES!!!
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.02 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lirt
Edited by: Lirt on 02/03/2008 04:49:17
Edited by: Lirt on 02/03/2008 04:49:06
Torpedoes short range---------------------------check
Blasters/Autocannons/Pulses short range------check
Torpedoes can hit only BS--------------------------check
Blasters/Autocannons/Pulses can hit everything-----check
Explain?
LULZ
Get a clue. 
Originally by: MM0RPG EVE Review
"if you aren't my friend you are my income."
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Cult of Rawr
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Posted - 2008.03.02 07:19:00 -
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Quote:
Torpedoes short range---------------------------check
Javelin?
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2008.03.02 08:53:00 -
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Nerfing torps was one of CCP's best moves ever 
NOTE: replying to this post with "actually its a buff!!11!!" makes you a cretin.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.02 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zaqar
NOTE: replying to this post with "actually its a buff!!11!!" makes you a cretin.
Possibly.
But you will be a cretin with a killmail after your 3 damage mod Raven melts whatever ship BS and lower wanders into your 30km 'short range' combat envelope. 
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Euriti
Gallente
Black Podding
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:04:00 -
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Try hitting a frig or Inty with medium or large guns if he's going at an reasonable speed. Killing BCs in frigs is what I enjoy most :D
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Zaqar
NOTE: replying to this post with "actually its a buff!!11!!" makes you a cretin.
Possibly.
But you will be a cretin with a killmail after your 3 damage mod Raven melts whatever ship BS and lower wanders into your 30km 'short range' CAPLESS WEAPON combat envelope.
Fixed that for you.
PS Smart torp-raven pilots will get a wingman in a Hyena or a Huginn.
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Riho on 02/03/2008 11:30:52
Originally by: Lirt
Edited by: Lirt on 02/03/2008 04:49:17
Edited by: Lirt on 02/03/2008 04:49:06
Torpedoes short range---------------------------check
Blasters/Autocannons/Pulses short range------check
Torpedoes can hit only BS--------------------------check
Blasters/Autocannons/Pulses can hit everything-----check
Explain?
torps can hit as much as blasters/ac/pulse.
sig affects all weapons
mybe do some research before posting ?
edit: after being shot by 3 torp ravens 2 days ago.... i can say.. nerf torp damage :P my megathron poped like cruiser under fire :P ( i had plate fit.... but didnt feel like i had any more armor than whitout plates :P)
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
Do Or Die And Live Or Try
The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lirt
Edited by: Lirt on 02/03/2008 04:49:17
Edited by: Lirt on 02/03/2008 04:49:06
Torpedoes short range---------------------------check
Blasters/Autocannons/Pulses short range------check
Torpedoes can hit only BS--------------------------check
Blasters/Autocannons/Pulses can hit everything-----check
Explain?
Blasters, AC's and Pulse's can't hit everything. Franckly, they can only hit BS's, whereas Torps will allways hit everything. But the damage is crap.
Yes, I can hit a frigate if its at 50km+ and I have long range lenses in my Pulses, combined with tracking computers and a bit of luck. But you can hit those same frigates at 5km, and probably deal an ok amount of damage if you use target painters and a web.
Or the short true answer, guns rock and missiles suck, go train guns.
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2008.03.02 12:07:00 -
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I don't think 25+ km range can really be classified as short-range in the same way as blasters.
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2008.03.02 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zaqar
Nerfing torps was one of CCP's best moves ever
NOTE: replying to this post with "actually its a buff!!11!!" makes you a cretin.
You thinking it was in any way a "nerf" makes an idiot though.
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Grim Vandal
Caldari
Burn Proof
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Posted - 2008.03.02 12:33:00 -
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The whole missile system in eve stinks really bad. Noone seems to smell it tho.
honestly I havent seen a game yet which has done missiles in any way worse than in eve.
In fact destiny is to blame (physic engine) which cant do missiles right it seems.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.03.02 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Reem Fairchild
I don't think 25+ km range can really be classified as short-range in the same way as blasters.
25km range with a range bonus on the ship.
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2008.03.02 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Vandal
The whole missile system in eve stinks really bad. Noone seems to smell it tho.
honestly I havent seen a game yet which has done missiles in any way worse than in eve.
In fact destiny is to blame (physic engine) which cant do missiles right it seems.
it is wierd that one of the assumptions about missiles is that they will always attack from the tail end of the ship. i guess if the target ship is on approaching an approaching vector the missile waits for it to pass then chases it down. strangely all those thousands of years in the future the missile guidance software isn't up to the challenge of just hitting the target from the front. we've had missiles doing that for a generation or so now. then the ship would fly into the shock wave from the missile going off and take more damage rather than less. would inflict some respect on those weaselly little ship pilots
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:55:00 -
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That's because real life missiles have image recognition and in-flight trajectory adjustment. Eve's missiles are a very basic, fast moving object, whose only job is to catch up to its target. I imagine that writing code for missiles to intercept player ships on approach would be something CCP would have to subcontract Lockheed Martin for, and that's... a little out of their budget ;)
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2008.03.02 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
I don't think 25+ km range can really be classified as short-range in the same way as blasters.
25km range with a range bonus on the ship.
Max range for regular torpedos without a ship range bonus is 20 km. 17 something should be easy to reach with average skills.
Max range for regular torpedos with the Raven's bonuses is 30 km. 25 something should be pretty easy to train up for.
With Javelins it's even longer ranges.
No matter how you look at it, it's a whole different kind of range than even battleship size neutrons with null ammo get. Yet they do similar DPS as blasters nowadays.
Yes, they don't do full damage against smaller or faster targets, but guns don't either unless transversal velocity is very low. Also, with missiles you only have to worry about the target. Your own ship can move in any direction and at any speed without it having any effect on your accuracy as long as you stay within range.
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Gravecall
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Posted - 2008.03.03 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: Gravecall on 03/03/2008 09:00:36
Well since I use railguns and not blasters/ACs/pulses I can't definitively say for these but the only 2 reasons you shouldn't be able to hit a specific ship are:
1. Relative angular velocity Vs. turret's tracking speed
2. Signature radius.
Now for 1 this is balenced out by missiles/torps suffering a reduction in damage inflicted depending on the target's speed Vs. the speed of the wake of the explosion.
For 2 this equally applies to missiles as well as turrets.
How about this:
Hybrids (blasters and railguns)- Kinetic and thermal damage only.
Lasers - EM and thermal damage only
Autocannons and missiles/torpedoes - any damage type you like.
So you still sure that torpedoes have the worst hand in things?
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Cult of Rawr
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Posted - 2008.03.03 09:19:00 -
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And then there's HAMs...
My god are they useful 
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Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2008.03.03 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Vandal
The whole missile system in eve stinks really bad. Noone seems to smell it tho.
honestly I havent seen a game yet which has done missiles in any way worse than in eve.
In fact destiny is to blame (physic engine) which cant do missiles right it seems.
No worry neither are guns or flight mechanics right either... You think it's normal to miss a 500m long battleship at point plank range with a large gun?
EVE has comic books physics, accept it, and enjoy the pretty well balanced fights.
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