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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.02 16:36:00 -
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In the real world, Goonswarm would be a megacorporation with orbital space stations, a security division that rivals the largest, and most technological armies. And, South America creeping all the way up into the US would be owned and operated by Goonswarm, and called the United Federation of Goons, where we wage our war on the rest of the world.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.02 16:42:00 -
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It's true. I'm busy being camped in a station in Syndicate right now. 
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.02 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Brainless Bimbo your confused GoonSwarm are the USofA who crept down and controlled South America, your vassals will eventually revolt.
No, I don't own a confused.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 00:45:00 -
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I like all the whines about how CCP should do something. The thing that makes Eve great is you don't need CCP to do something. There are so many things that you can do on your own to prevent this.
Your safety it not CCPs job, it is your own. If it is really that enraging, fight back.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 01:00:00 -
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Then I'm on the right track. Now I just need to beat your Libya and Iran.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Bart ForHire You made your Point, You Don't Care about other player, why should other players care what you want to make them do.
But maybe we should instead stand and make CCP ban You.
But that would make us like you, and EVE would be a Bad place to Play.
I don't really think you understand. We're not doing anything against the rules. And no one is forcing you to do anything.
If you don't want to do anything about it, that is fine too. But every action has its consequence. This is Eve, where non-consensual PvP has been a cornerstone since launch day.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 01:29:00 -
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Many of us do not have unlimited ISK.
But please, tell us what rules we have broken.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: FastJack316
Originally by: Rassalon Simessa
So there really is no recourse unless the corp in question has the military to go to war with the goons.
I swear to god I get like five alliance mails a week from random corps I've never even heard of wardeccing on goons and we never do anything about it.
What are we going to do to a corp of miner alts in disposable frigates scattered across empire? Pos-spam jita?
Exactly. We are not going to even give a second look at the wardec mail.
Giving you the wardec will allow you to attack those suiciding you, and dumb goons who are flying around in empire. That's about it, we are not gonna send some 200+ man op up into empire to cleanse you, because really, how stupid does that sound?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 16:16:00 -
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http://www.jihadswarm.com/?a=kills
Do exactly who is decorping? Because all those kills seem to be in GS to me.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 16:35:00 -
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As far as I know, you can heal them, but you can't directly attack the agressor as without a wardec, agression timers and kill rights are personal.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Rimhawk
Originally by: An Anarchyyt As far as I know, you can heal them, but you can't directly attack the agressor as without a wardec, agression timers and kill rights are personal.
Well that's something but many (new) people can't fly logistics ships, so the newer people couldn't defend themselves that well if they are in your gang. Are they also going after covetors btw or just hulks?
But as long as gangmates cannot help to defend you, I'll consider it to be an exploit or a very bad game mechanic. If CCP gave corpmates the ability to defend gangpmates (or rather corpmates) that are under attack then I wouldn't be bothered by this at all.
Not that I am that bothered that much right now, I don't mine. 
You don't need to be flying a T2 Logistics ship. An Osprey works very well indeed as a shield repper, especially if it doesn't need to last too long. Fit a small cap booster with 400s in to keep going for a couple of extra cycles. Same with an Exequeror. With a couple of best named remote shield/armour reppers, these ships can add a remarkable amount of tank. Just have 1 per 4 hulks, keep the hulks fairly close together and have them pre-targetted. As soon as one of your flock starts to take damage, hit the shield reps on it. They're pretty easy to skill for, and heck they can even mine a bit while they're waiting.
What he said, or an Exequeror, or the others.
And there is one very good way that corpmates can help, and has been said numerous times, a wardec.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7
Deny insurance claims for Concord kills.
Sucks we have to go down this path due to rampant abuse of hisec mechanics, but I really see no other option.
Hisec is not supposed to be more dangerous than 0.0, for that matter 0.0 is not supposed to be safer than 0.4, the risk/reward is supposed to scale, thats how we protect noobs in this game and ensure that everyone gets a level of risk they are comfortable with, corresponding to an appropriate reward for taking more risks.
Eve right now serves %10 of the players at the expense of the other %90.
I look forward to a little balance in the game mechanics.
Lets assume for a minute, that your ridiculous rabble is true, where exactly is it said that low-sec is not meant to be more dangrous than 0.0? The purpose of 0.0 is simply that it is player-ruled. That says nothing about how safe or not safe, it is meant to be.
If you look at it at the way it is, 0.0 is divided into a high and low-sec type area. High-sec is the area that the empires claim, and protect. Low-sec is the areas that the empires claim, but do not protect, for whatever reason. Any alliance has a base area, which in normal times, is relatively safe. Lots of people around to protect, and hostile incursions generally don't get in there that far. So that is the 0.0 equivalent of high sec.
And of course, as these alliances spread out, they can not patrol every single area of their space. These are the areas that are much more empty, have a lot less friendlies, and are also often less desirable, this is the low-sec equivalent of low-sec. Therefore, it is much easier for hostiles and neutrals to hang out in these areas and do whatever they want.
So, there is no division that the game is high-sec, low-sec and 0.0. There is high-sec and low-sec as the empire space entity. And then there is the separate division of 0.0 as non-empire, player controlled space.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 03/03/2008 21:24:47
Originally by: Cipher7
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Lets assume for a minute, that your ridiculous rabble is true, where exactly is it said that low-sec is not meant to be more dangrous than 0.0?
I dunno, maybe the words in the top left corner of the screen where it says, "SECURITY LEVEL"
So higher security is supposed to mean more dangerous right?
From the Official Eve Player Guide :
Space consists of star systems. Each of these is assigned a security rating, from 0.0 (Lawless) to 1.0 (Secure).
You could imagine the EVE galaxy as a flower, where the secure Empire space is the middle of the flower and the outer lawless regions are the leaves.
The ultimate goal in EVE is power. It can be power over the market, military dominance, financial power, or political power. These are all achievable in EVE at degrees varying from local system, regional level, or even universe-wide. EVE caters to many different play styles, ranging from the hard core combat commander to the patient miner
New Player Protection
New characters enter the EVE world in high security areas of space, heavily guarded by police ships and sentry guns.
Making Money
Mining
There are many forms of mining, ranging from solo prospecting to large scale strip mining by industrial corporations. The latter requires considerable planning and coordination, but solo mining does not require much skill or knowledge. That sounds like the perfect job for you! Don't worry; every dashing space hero and galactic corporate mogul had to start somewhere.
A suitable system for launching your new mining career should meet the following criteria:
* Be 1.0 to 0.8 security.
Except of course, like many other things in the knowledge base, it only applies to certain situations and is simply wrong, and badly in need of an update.
The first thing, is that "Security level" is specifically in response to NPC security. So yes, there is no CONCORD in 0.0, and gate guns and station guns only attack you if you are dumb enough to agress them.
Calling 0.0 lawless is just plain wrong. What it is saying, is that there is no NPC law in there, no CONCORD. So the players are free to make the law. There is most certainly law in 0.0 regions, Whether it is the NRDS policy of CVA, or the RoR policies of many alliances for fellow allies in home regions. These all sound like law to me.
But, I guess if someone has never been in 0.0, or only in NPC 0.0, then they would't really understand this.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.03 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: jdok I get all my information from CAOD!
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.04 06:08:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 04/03/2008 06:11:08 You know, I kinda wonder. People talking about all the "lost" subscriptions and stuff....with the various newbee drives that Goonswarm has done, is there any other single player entity in Eve that has been directly responsible for more subscriptions than GS?
Originally by: Spacy Tracy Goons have stated unequivocally that their desire is to ruin the game. Straight up - that's their goal.
So, when exactly did we "say" this?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:31:00 -
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Yes, it's true. I have never had a job/friend/girlfriend/life/degree from school, and infact, live in a basement and all the light I get is from the computer screen.
You have totally pegged us all, with your expert Jungian analysis. I'm gonna go cry now.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.04 15:53:00 -
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So....GHSC is still active?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.04 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 04/03/2008 16:13:34
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: An Anarchyyt So....GHSC is still active?
Active and gainfully employed ;)
Not bad.
I think I should switch careers. 
Although being highly visible and annoying at the same time has its rewards as well. 
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.04 16:49:00 -
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I am offended at using words that may have some sort of connotations in some sort of other case, in some specific topic that is in no way related to Eve.
Words/phrases that I never wanna hear:
Final Solution It Doing it It is done Any religion God Jesus Amarr Guns Shooting Killing Cloning War Death Crusade Guidebot
I demand all these be immediatly censored, as they are offensive to me!
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.07 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: MISERY MAKER 2) If the Goons really want to run Eve and hate Bob then why are they not killing exhumers and harrassing BoB in Bob space? Are they scared that BoB will really kick their butts?
Newsflash!
BoB does not just sit there with Hulks in Delve and mine.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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An Anarchyyt
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.04 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Gate Bait Until then I say let the Goons have their fun, they will eventually learn that their strategy is so intra-game short sided that they will discover that they are their own worst enemy.
You really "get" Goons. Don't you?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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