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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.03 14:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Rastigan
They arent buffing any other sniping battleship, what problem will the Tempest have ? The only problem the Tempest has is that Minmatar ships are normally the best of each class so they are kind of used to EVERY ship type dominating.
That's a load of bull excrement and you know it. minmatar ships, right now, are probably in the 4th place out of 4
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.04 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: KD.Fluffy
Why should the muninn be as good of a sniper as the race whose specialty is sniping?....
If the muninn should perform as well in that role as the eagle, then the cerb should speed tank as well as a vagabond.
News for you. The cerb does speed tank. The vagabond does not.
The cerb can hit and whatever speed its flying and whatever the range. The vagabond must slow down and get fairly close.
So. What were you saying about the cerb and speed tanks?
As far as sniping and stuff either make arty actually usefu or make the muninn useful somehow. But right now its one of the ships that sits in the station because its simply not worth it at all.
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.04 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: KD.Fluffy
lol at the cerb speed tanking....... Screw a vagabond, everyone speed tank their cerbs 
Maybe you should talk to one of those nano gang whiners that abound so much.
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Frodo Zsakos
Originally by: Nasta443
News for you. The cerb does speed tank. The vagabond does not.
The cerb can hit and whatever speed its flying and whatever the range. The vagabond must slow down and get fairly close.
So. What were you saying about the cerb and speed tanks?
As far as sniping and stuff either make arty actually usefu or make the muninn useful somehow. But right now its one of the ships that sits in the station because its simply not worth it at all.
Cerbs do nano
Cute. Noob, but cute.
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.04 19:33:00 -
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Edited by: Nasta443 on 04/03/2008 19:35:24
Originally by: KD.Fluffy
anyways, you guys are loosing my point here. Asking for the muninn to be as good a sniper as the eagle is like asking for the cerb to be as good a speed tank as the vaga, which imo would be stupid.
The vaga does not speed tank. And if it was hitting you at 3k you had the signature of a station and it was going slow enough to be hit so.. :) Go plug some numbers and see what you find out. Most likely the vagabonds dps won't be good at all.
Anyway nobody is asking for the muninn to be as "good" as a sniper as an eagle. But to either be better at a certain range, or to to something else. Having a ship that is crap just because theres some other ship that supposed to be the empitome of sniping is bad.
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.05 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Goumindong
Because its just not feasible at the ranges and gang sizes. Not to mention that drones are terrible at the type of stuff we are talking about.
So you'd be happy to lose the launchers and the drone bay?
fo sure
whatever is on you can probably outrun your drones long enough
and launchers are useless for sniping
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.05 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: ZelRox
Too much EFT in this thread tbh.
Eagle pretty much lost all of its advantage when the scripts were introduced. Its operating range was pretty much cut down with about 70 km. As eagle is paper thin, no drone bay, and 2 small missile launchers wont do much damage without bonus, a frig with large transversal will still receive little to no damage.
Munin is somewhat in the same situation, but it has dronebay, for additional defense.
Still great roaming ships, id rather go with a BC for fleet fight.
Muninn is in a worse situation because its gotta stay closer. So not only it has less time to attempt to shoot whatever but its harder to track far sooner.
And the drones won't help much at all.
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.06 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: Nasta443 on 06/03/2008 09:53:14
so let me get this strait
in a boost raven thread cruises suck because they take too long to hit anythingthats not next to you
in a munin sucks thread (mostly) missiles and drones rock for sniping because they... they... they.... they what?
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.06 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 06/03/2008 09:59:31
Originally by: Nasta443
Edited by: Nasta443 on 06/03/2008 09:53:14
so let me get this strait
in a boost raven thread cruises suck because they take too long to hit anythingthats not next to you
in a munin sucks thread (mostly) missiles and drones rock for sniping because they... they... they.... they what?
Because its better then not having them at all? Are you saying we could add a few missiles hardpoints and drones on a zealot and eagle and you wouldnt notice it? you wouldnt whine about that? They have uses and they should be considered in balance. Muninn is a bit different. It has the missiles and drones because minmatar is the versitile race. The pure snipe/gank races will have the slightly better thought through sniper hacs. Deal with it.
go on see how much i'd care about that
besides the zealot massacres the vagabond and muninn with the extra turret so it won't make any difference at all at hac level
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