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gosport fighter	Posted - 2008.03.02 18:44:00 - [1] Edited by: gosport fighter on 02/03/2008 18:48:23 I have noticed this year that EVETV have been smacking more teams for trying some thing new........i mean they are trying to make things a bit more intresting than this dual logistic rubbish we have seen! EVETV you should really listen to your self and be ashamed at your self for such things, please at least think that people are trying to make things intresting for and the rest of the eve world Either way props to the guys bringing new things this year
Tucker Jones	Posted - 2008.03.02 18:47:00 - [2] To be honest, its up to the EVETV crew to make the show as interesting as possible. If that requires "smacking" (and tbh i havent really heard any words that were not in due course) then so be it. LOL btw, to your comment about dual logistics making the tourny more interesting. you should be ashamed for posting afaik.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.03.02 18:48:00 - [3] On the whole, "smackings" have been generally earned by certain things. There's the good kind of experimentation, like Notoriety has shown, versus less than good like IAC.
violator2k5 Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.02 18:50:00 - [4] the smacking makes it a bit more entertaining. i knew from the moment calmdown and stoffer were selected that there was going to be the usual bob smack. its always going to be there just like the biased commentary. ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
Denton Frost Amarr KSI	Posted - 2008.03.02 18:51:00 - [5] are u THAT sensitive? "Should be ashamed" just lol.
gosport fighter	Posted - 2008.03.02 18:51:00 - [6] hmm maybe be you need to read the topic again i was saying dual logistics is boring!!!!! and every team that has tried some thing new and failed has been quite harshly put down. Just my views.
Norwood Franskly Minmatar Fleet of the Damned United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.02 18:52:00 - [7] Originally by: violator2k5 the smacking makes it a bit more entertaining. i knew from the moment calmdown and stoffer were selected that there was going to be the usual bob smack. its always going to be there just like the biased commentary. They smacked IAC far more hen BOB...
Daziel Iaar Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.02 18:52:00 - [8] Yeah i thought the smacking was a bit to critical in places but i think its ok, i enjoy it and it adds to the broadcast, since when has eve ever been a smack free game. "For God and Empire"
Krasnij Okjabre Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 18:54:00 - [9] Perhaps the guy has a point, smack is unfortunately inherent in Eve... but I think as pundits the EveTV crew should be objective and impartial. You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer.
Denton Frost Amarr KSI	Posted - 2008.03.02 18:56:00 - [10] no, he doesnt have a point. Its a game, it should be entertaining not boring sit on the fence comments where people hide their rel opinions for fear of offending. Sod that
Krasnij Okjabre Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 18:59:00 - [11] Originally by: Denton Frost no, he doesnt have a point. Its a game, it should be entertaining not boring sit on the fence comments where people hide their rel opinions for fear of offending. Sod that Yeah, and football/soccer would be great if Rodney Marsh and Alan Hansen started slating teams without justification... You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer.
Denton Frost Amarr KSI	Posted - 2008.03.02 19:00:00 - [12] Originally by: Krasnij Okjabre Originally by: Denton Frost no, he doesnt have a point. Its a game, it should be entertaining not boring sit on the fence comments where people hide their rel opinions for fear of offending. Sod that Yeah, and football/soccer would be great if Rodney Marsh and Alan Hansen started slating teams without justification... lol, expect this isnt a professional game worth billions, its internet spaceships didnt u know
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.02 19:05:00 - [13] Originally by: violator2k5 the smacking makes it a bit more entertaining. i knew from the moment calmdown and stoffer were selected that there was going to be the usual bob smack. its always going to be there just like the biased commentary. I think the only time I've mentioned BOB this entire tourney is when I said it was an understandable call not to take the spot offered.
Krasnij Okjabre Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 19:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Denton Frost Originally by: Krasnij Okjabre Originally by: Denton Frost no, he doesnt have a point. Its a game, it should be entertaining not boring sit on the fence comments where people hide their rel opinions for fear of offending. Sod that Yeah, and football/soccer would be great if Rodney Marsh and Alan Hansen started slating teams without justification... lol, expect this isnt a professional game worth billions, its internet spaceships didnt u know Nooooooooooooo... yur kidding, right? You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer.
Syrenea Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 19:07:00 - [15] <3 krans
Krasnij Okjabre Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 19:09:00 - [16] My point is that those almighty that are chosen to sit and cast their expert knowledge upon us should be unbiased, unopinionated and just give us details, not personal views. You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer.
Syrenea Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 19:09:00 - [17] Edited by: Syrenea on 02/03/2008 19:09:31 Originally by: Krasnij Okjabre My point is that those almighty that are chosen to sit and cast their expert knowledge upon us should be unbiased, unopinionated and just give us details, not personal views. except teh verone he did say nice things about blood blind
Krasnij Okjabre Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 19:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Syrenea Edited by: Syrenea on 02/03/2008 19:09:31 Originally by: Krasnij Okjabre My point is that those almighty that are chosen to sit and cast their expert knowledge upon us should be unbiased, unopinionated and just give us details, not personal views. except teh verone he did say nice things about blood blind Yeah, we do better outside of a controlled environment You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer.
Draahk Chimera Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.02 19:16:00 - [19] Well a bit of smack is one thing. But silly saying "smashkill suck as usual". There are no o.0 pilots in SMASH team afaik.
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:24:00 - [20] We got slagged last night in the couple of times we were mentioned, i noted it was by Eddz and Tyraxx. Funnily IAC and KIA are two groups we have slapped around a bit in Stain, funny that :)
Jacobi Borne Gallente QUANT Corp.	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:24:00 - [21] Eddz was smacking the dual logistics setup as boring...what do KIA come out with?
Krasnij Okjabre Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:25:00 - [22] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry We got slagged last night in the couple of times we were mentioned, i noted it was by Eddz and Tyraxx. Funnily IAC and KIA are two groups we have slapped around a bit in Stain, funny that :) I agree with you. The pundits should be objective and impartial. Or it all comes across as biased. Not all of us live for smack. You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:34:00 - [23] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry We got slagged last night in the couple of times we were mentioned, i noted it was by Eddz and Tyraxx. Funnily IAC and KIA are two groups we have slapped around a bit in Stain, funny that :) To be fair, the fight against KIA was a fight you should have won. Your FC made a mistake and you've been called on it. You may call it smacking, but the truth is that the studio guys are there to talk about the good and bad things that happen. Your FC screwed up last night and that's going to be talked about.
Sobic Kurophsky Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:38:00 - [24] I hate biased commentary, I want to hear about stuff that matters, and things that I cant see on the crappy low res feed. Either do it right or don't do it at all. --> Insert hot chick sig here, with minor eve reference<--
Krasnij Okjabre Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:38:00 - [25] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Fitz Chivalry We got slagged last night in the couple of times we were mentioned, i noted it was by Eddz and Tyraxx. Funnily IAC and KIA are two groups we have slapped around a bit in Stain, funny that :) To be fair, the fight against KIA was a fight you should have won. Your FC made a mistake and you've been called on it. You may call it smacking, but the truth is that the studio guys are there to talk about the good and bad things that happen. Your FC screwed up last night and that's going to be talked about. Talk about it by all means... If the FC screws up, fine. Just stop slating the whole alliance based on one teams performance. Lets face it, if we based Goons on the same basis... you'd look worse than you do now. And I almost liked y'all. You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer.
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:39:00 - [26] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Fitz Chivalry We got slagged last night in the couple of times we were mentioned, i noted it was by Eddz and Tyraxx. Funnily IAC and KIA are two groups we have slapped around a bit in Stain, funny that :) To be fair, the fight against KIA was a fight you should have won. Your FC made a mistake and you've been called on it. You may call it smacking, but the truth is that the studio guys are there to talk about the good and bad things that happen. Your FC screwed up last night and that's going to be talked about. Actually i was talking about the stealthbomber whines before the match even started. Also it was pilot error rather than fc error, one of the guys in stress mode forgot to switch off his mwd and so repeateadly bumped the primary away from blaster range.
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Krasnij Okjabre Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Fitz Chivalry We got slagged last night in the couple of times we were mentioned, i noted it was by Eddz and Tyraxx. Funnily IAC and KIA are two groups we have slapped around a bit in Stain, funny that :) To be fair, the fight against KIA was a fight you should have won. Your FC made a mistake and you've been called on it. You may call it smacking, but the truth is that the studio guys are there to talk about the good and bad things that happen. Your FC screwed up last night and that's going to be talked about. Talk about it by all means... If the FC screws up, fine. Just stop slating the whole alliance based on one teams performance. Lets face it, if we based Goons on the same basis... you'd look worse than you do now. And I almost liked y'all. I've noticed no one talking about Exceed as a whole, I don't know why anyone would. We've been critical about the Exceed vs KIA game, which is only natural since it was decided by FCing.
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:40:00 - [28] [Alan Hansen]That was absolUTELY terrible[/Alan Hansen]
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:41:00 - [29] Edited by: Stoffer Ninjapirate on 02/03/2008 20:41:03 Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Fitz Chivalry We got slagged last night in the couple of times we were mentioned, i noted it was by Eddz and Tyraxx. Funnily IAC and KIA are two groups we have slapped around a bit in Stain, funny that :) To be fair, the fight against KIA was a fight you should have won. Your FC made a mistake and you've been called on it. You may call it smacking, but the truth is that the studio guys are there to talk about the good and bad things that happen. Your FC screwed up last night and that's going to be talked about. Actually i was talking about the stealthbomber whines before the match even started. Also it was pilot error rather than fc error, one of the guys in stress mode forgot to switch off his mwd and so repeateadly bumped the primary away from blaster range. Ah, well I don't know about the stealthbomber thing since I don't get to actually watch the show at all times. The error was the choice of drones, which I assume the FC is responsible for.
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:45:00 - [30] Now we are getting love so now I have to take it all back
Krasnij Okjabre Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:46:00 - [31] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Krasnij Okjabre Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Fitz Chivalry We got slagged last night in the couple of times we were mentioned, i noted it was by Eddz and Tyraxx. Funnily IAC and KIA are two groups we have slapped around a bit in Stain, funny that :) To be fair, the fight against KIA was a fight you should have won. Your FC made a mistake and you've been called on it. You may call it smacking, but the truth is that the studio guys are there to talk about the good and bad things that happen. Your FC screwed up last night and that's going to be talked about. Talk about it by all means... If the FC screws up, fine. Just stop slating the whole alliance based on one teams performance. Lets face it, if we based Goons on the same basis... you'd look worse than you do now. And I almost liked y'all. I've noticed no one talking about Exceed as a whole, I don't know why anyone would. We've been critical about the Exceed vs KIA game, which is only natural since it was decided by FCing. You have been critical in all the wrong ways, as a group sitting there all smug, know-all, be-all irritants. It makes you look terrible. You hide behind each other and I think you portray Eve in the eliteist way it does not deserve. Flame me... I'm waiting. You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer.
kessah Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:48:00 - [32] lol krans
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:51:00 - [33] Originally by: Krasnij Okjabre Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Krasnij Okjabre Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Fitz Chivalry We got slagged last night in the couple of times we were mentioned, i noted it was by Eddz and Tyraxx. Funnily IAC and KIA are two groups we have slapped around a bit in Stain, funny that :) To be fair, the fight against KIA was a fight you should have won. Your FC made a mistake and you've been called on it. You may call it smacking, but the truth is that the studio guys are there to talk about the good and bad things that happen. Your FC screwed up last night and that's going to be talked about. Talk about it by all means... If the FC screws up, fine. Just stop slating the whole alliance based on one teams performance. Lets face it, if we based Goons on the same basis... you'd look worse than you do now. And I almost liked y'all. I've noticed no one talking about Exceed as a whole, I don't know why anyone would. We've been critical about the Exceed vs KIA game, which is only natural since it was decided by FCing. You have been critical in all the wrong ways, as a group sitting there all smug, know-all, be-all irritants. It makes you look terrible. You hide behind each other and I think you portray Eve in the eliteist way it does not deserve. Flame me... I'm waiting. I don't know why I'd flame you. Our job is to talk about the games and what goes on, if a team makes a mistake, it will be talked about. I'm sorry you feel it's "smack".
Krasnij Okjabre Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:52:00 - [34] Perhaps it's more to do with tone than what you actually say. You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer.
gosport fighter	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:56:00 - [35] it is not the comments on setups and how people could improve them that is the issue smug smacking comments that have no place on the show is whats up for questioning. Over all they do a good job but at the some point take some feed back, and maybe improve on this....
Earthan Gallente GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.02 20:57:00 - [36] Well i was in alliances for yesrs that got bad reputation in eve pvp world and they got each torunament smacked :), but imho actually a bit of humour and even some smack does live it up imho - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy hunting stories
bigred monkey Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.03.02 21:18:00 - [37] 'We got slagged last night in the couple of times we were mentioned, i noted it was by Eddz and Tyraxx. Funnily IAC and KIA are two groups we have slapped around a bit in Stain, funny that :)' think you got dis-respected, try being a crimson pilot! we try something diff on first fight, got slatted and made out to be noobs with no clue, second fight, we go with a game plan and smack iac around and all we get is 'iac lost that as they warped in wrong' not 'well done crimson, good call' third time, we go for a dps set-up against cosa (who went for same) and we get made out to be noobs again! this is our first tourny and to of beaten one of the 'toruny favourites' was def a good thing for us. the only good thing that has been said about us is by calmdown apoligizing for saying we had no chance before the second match. mind you watching thyraxx try and avoid talking about his loss last night was highly amusing, but big respect to his pimp hat! so please next friday spiral and gang, some nice words if you please?? then if we die call us noobs!
PlayaKilla	Posted - 2008.03.02 21:23:00 - [38] ROFL!! Unbiased and unopinionated. The whole ******* point of this is opinions.
Krasnij Okjabre Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 21:39:00 - [39] Originally by: PlayaKilla ROFL!! Unbiased and unopinionated. The whole ******* point of this is opinions. orly?? I'll credit those that really deserve it. Poor show for profanity too. Get over y'self. You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer.
Madelchai Gallente Stimulus The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.03.02 22:22:00 - [40] Get over it. ------ Revolution. The only solution.
Krasnij Okjabre Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.02 22:49:00 - [41] Originally by: Madelchai Get over it. Get over what? You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer.
violator2k5 Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.02 23:18:00 - [42] Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate I think the only time I've mentioned BOB this entire tourney is when I said it was an understandable call not to take the spot offered. it wasnt a dig at you, far from it. as in game theres a lot of rival tension between both our sides in the great war and i was expecting to see a little of that show on eve-tv considering both yourself and calmdown are there Originally by: bigred monkey third time, we go for a dps set-up against cosa (who went for same) and we get made out to be noobs again! this is our first tourny and to of beaten one of the 'toruny favourites' was def a good thing for us bigred your team and cosa nostra had 1 of the best matches in this torny so far ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
Zaltor Kabalen Amarr Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.03.03 01:46:00 - [43] All I have heard out of EVETV for this entire thing regarding our group. MC MC MC MC MC MC... MC This, MC that, MC just made a mistake, MC MC MC MC MC MC... Kiss butt more?
Valkazm Amarr Knights of Tiberius Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.03.03 02:56:00 - [44] Originally by: Zaltor Kabalen All I have heard out of EVETV for this entire thing regarding our group. MC MC MC MC MC MC... MC This, MC that, MC just made a mistake, MC MC MC MC MC MC... Kiss butt more? Its beacuse there dinasours there brain cant handle the fact that everything isnt going as it use to be . They dont know of anyone else or what to say about them it will be intresting to hear what they have to say once the big names are gone . ....................................... Signature Breaking Eve news
NTRabbit Caldari Tribal Trust of Pator Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.03.03 09:17:00 - [45] Not that I'm complaining or anything, but it is rather amusing when they begin some sort of "review of all the groups" or "who is going to win each group" during the long gap at the end of a short match... only to never get past group C, stuck on MC and Pandemic Legion for 6 or 7 minutes ------
PlayaKilla	Posted - 2008.03.03 12:06:00 - [46] Absolutely everything you do, every thought that flies through your head is the basis of an opinion that at some point you formed in your life and stored away. Yeah, they could get unopinionated people on camera, but corpses don't commentate well.
Calmdown Minmatar	Posted - 2008.03.03 12:45:00 - [47] Originally by: violator2k5 the smacking makes it a bit more entertaining. i knew from the moment calmdown and stoffer were selected that there was going to be the usual bob smack. its always going to be there just like the biased commentary. I love how we were selected and you thought you were relevant enough for us to care about... The only time you've even been worth mentioning was in the money vs skill debate, where you provided me with a perfect example of a team that is only good when the tournament is about funding and not skill.
EVETV spiralJunkie	Posted - 2008.03.03 12:50:00 - [48] BoB Smack? BoB are irrelevant, why would we smack them? _
Sha4d13	Posted - 2008.03.03 12:53:00 - [49] Says the man who LURVES IAC....
ANGRY23 Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.03 15:49:00 - [50] I thought Spiral and the EVETV crew done a great job making the 1st 3 days of the tournament interesting and enjoyable. I also think this thread = "epic fail". __________________________________________ Blood Blind, keeping alive the old pirate ways!
Rajere No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.03 16:29:00 - [51] Quote: All I have heard out of EVETV for this entire thing regarding our group. MC MC MC MC MC MC... MC This, MC that, MC just made a mistake, MC MC MC MC MC MC... Kiss butt more? gotta give props to Syndicate peeps, give them hell Cry Havoc.
Gus Preston Gallente The Hoodie Mafia Cosa Nostra.	Posted - 2008.03.03 19:58:00 - [52] Whine much?
ANGRY23 Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.03 20:02:00 - [53] yeah gus min. whining = failzorz __________________________________________ Blood Blind, keeping alive the old pirate ways!
Exortius Agamar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.04 04:15:00 - [54] Originally by: Calmdown Originally by: violator2k5 the smacking makes it a bit more entertaining. i knew from the moment calmdown and stoffer were selected that there was going to be the usual bob smack. its always going to be there just like the biased commentary. I love how we were selected and you thought you were relevant enough for us to care about... The only time you've even been worth mentioning was in the money vs skill debate, where you provided me with a perfect example of a team that is only good when the tournament is about funding and not skill. If we are so irrelevant then why do you guys talk about us so much when we are not even participating.
Exortius Agamar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.04 04:17:00 - [55] Originally by: EVETV spiralJunkie BoB Smack? BoB are irrelevant, why would we smack them? You seem to smack everyone regardless of whether they are relevant or not. :)
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.03.04 14:42:00 - [56] Originally by: Zaltor Kabalen All I have heard out of EVETV for this entire thing regarding our group. MC MC MC MC MC MC... MC This, MC that, MC just made a mistake, MC MC MC MC MC MC... Kiss butt more? How is that a bad thing for you? If I was the MC I've prefer to slip silently into the night given the 0-3 record, for their sake I hope they can pull a flawless execution of a tried and tested set-up and not come out a complete failure. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.04 15:50:00 - [57] Originally by: Danton Marcellus How is that a bad thing for you? If I was the MC I've prefer to slip silently into the night given the 0-3 record, for their sake I hope they can pull a flawless execution of a tried and tested set-up and not come out a complete failure. It's somewhat of a lose-lose situation for competitors really. Try something different and the panel rips you apart for not chasing after points. Do the same old tried and tested thing and the panel rips you apart for being boring. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Mangus Thermopyle Divine Retribution Divine 0rder	Posted - 2008.03.04 16:03:00 - [58] There has been a lot of childish smack from the commentary, and also quite a lot of less-than-expert opinions. Smacking BoB, Goons and other major alliances is fine (they can take it), but smaller or unknown alliances should not be publically smacked when they cant defend themselves. The "sleep in studio" scene was kinda fun though
Zaltor Kabalen Amarr Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.03.04 17:08:00 - [59] I'm just going to sit around and see how this coming week goes. But for our group you can bet.. Even though Jane Doe and Doe Jane alliances are having a match, somehow all of the commentary will be about MC!! My personal thought is to drop all of this commentary bull and just have EVETV call the fights... I don't want opinions, I want to know who just blew up. Maybe they could rig up 2 videos or just have a 're-cap' vid of each fight... who went kablam and who didn't.. who won.. etc. None of this "Well if MC HAD BEEN HERE AND DONE THIS blah blah blah."
violator2k5 Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:24:00 - [60] Originally by: EVETV spiralJunkie BoB Smack? BoB are irrelevant, why would we smack them? BoB are irrelevant you say?? 3 times tornament champion got knocked out of last tornament by star fraction 10xRax setup. BoB A team BoB B team yadi yadi yah... threw the towel in this year due to being expected to come in with 3 days left to get things ready... you know if the rest of the tornament that ends this weekend goes without 1 more comment about bob i will be very suprised. still though, to see you guys commenting about bob so much it makes me smile, the reason being is that we sure made a big impact on the tornament also those of you who are in the smaller alliances, dont lose heart due to the smack.....feed off it.. learn by the matches you take part in and improve... you wont always please everyone with your setups but as long as your own team have fun during that match and do your best that is all that matters... GL & all the best for your remaining matches ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:33:00 - [61] No worries Zaltor. Commentator dialog doesn't cause ships to explode, and in the end.. that's all it comes down to. I think more people should simply enjoy the tourney. There are some great players out here giving their all. How often does EVE give you the opportunity of evenly balanced fights against some of its best and brightest? Pretty darn rarely. Revel in them.
AndrewRyan	Posted - 2008.03.05 13:32:00 - [62] The crap talking does spoil it, if its an alliance they are buddy buddy with or someone they fear on TQ they don't say anything except "Oh well that didn't work out but it was a solid attempt and setup" but some of the smaller alliances its all snarky and smart arsed comments. Comments are inevitable but compared to the last tournament the crap talk has gotten absurd and I think CCP should question having player based commentary and panels in future tournaments. Just to add I'm not referring to the EVE TV regular staff as they act in what can be described as a professional manner and don't take the p*ss despite what personal opinions they may have. ========================================= A Man chooses, a slave obeys.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.03.05 14:32:00 - [63] Originally by: bigred monkey 'We got slagged last night in the couple of times we were mentioned, i noted it was by Eddz and Tyraxx. Funnily IAC and KIA are two groups we have slapped around a bit in Stain, funny that :)' think you got dis-respected, try being a crimson pilot! we try something diff on first fight, got slatted and made out to be noobs with no clue, second fight, we go with a game plan and smack iac around and all we get is 'iac lost that as they warped in wrong' not 'well done crimson, good call' third time, we go for a dps set-up against cosa (who went for same) and we get made out to be noobs again! this is our first tourny and to of beaten one of the 'toruny favourites' was def a good thing for us. the only good thing that has been said about us is by calmdown apoligizing for saying we had no chance before the second match. mind you watching thyraxx try and avoid talking about his loss last night was highly amusing, but big respect to his pimp hat! so please next friday spiral and gang, some nice words if you please?? then if we die call us noobs! TYRRAX AVOID TALKING ABOUT TYRRAX ? WTF ARE YOU SMOKING ? LOL. http://eve.klaki.net/
bigred monkey Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.03.05 17:50:00 - [64] you gonna be commentating or appearing this weekend tyraxx?? please say the pimp hat will be going along!!! best of luck with the rest of your tourny aswell dude
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.03.05 18:57:00 - [65] no they don't want me back, apparently I mumble ! but thanks and good luck to you too http://eve.klaki.net/
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.06 00:55:00 - [66] The smack was present since last tourney as well due to commentators forgetting that they SHOULD be commenting on MATCHES and not putting their personal opinion or biases due to in-game affiliations. Also imo the selection of ppl is just wrong , like why pick someone who doesn't even play or someone who run website what ever or some celebrity ?!! Those are not grounds to mean that this person will provide good commentary , on the other hand it just loads more smack or extremely poor hearing. I think CCP is mixing up between celebrity style talk show and match commentary and those 2 are not even closely related , first option its fine to express the persons view biases or what not but in second option no one realy cares or want to listen to it.
AndrewRyan	Posted - 2008.03.06 02:07:00 - [67] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel The smack was present since last tourney as well due to commentators forgetting that they SHOULD be commenting on MATCHES and not putting their personal opinion or biases due to in-game affiliations. Also imo the selection of ppl is just wrong , like why pick someone who doesn't even play or someone who run website what ever or some celebrity ?!! Those are not grounds to mean that this person will provide good commentary , on the other hand it just loads more smack or extremely poor hearing. I think CCP is mixing up between celebrity style talk show and match commentary and those 2 are not even closely related , first option its fine to express the persons view biases or what not but in second option no one realy cares or want to listen to it. Couldn't agree more, criticism is par for the course and some of the teams have earned criticism but this panel and the commentators keep crossing the line into smacking and its driven by personal opinions. I also think this handbags at dawn business between two of the panel members further illustrates how far the smacking and personal bias has gone this year. ========================================= A Man chooses, a slave obeys.
Skitza Aluzion.	Posted - 2008.03.06 03:49:00 - [68] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel The smack was present since last tourney as well due to commentators forgetting that they SHOULD be commenting on MATCHES and not putting their personal opinion or biases due to in-game affiliations. Also imo the selection of ppl is just wrong , like why pick someone who doesn't even play or someone who run website what ever or some celebrity ?!! Those are not grounds to mean that this person will provide good commentary , on the other hand it just loads more smack or extremely poor hearing. I think CCP is mixing up between celebrity style talk show and match commentary and those 2 are not even closely related , first option its fine to express the persons view biases or what not but in second option no one realy cares or want to listen to it. QFT
Doppleganger Minmatar Band of Builders Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.06 05:48:00 - [69] Edited by: Doppleganger on 06/03/2008 05:51:15 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk no they don't want me back, apparently I mumble ! but thanks and good luck to you too Actually Tyrrax you were a bit hard to understand but if you dont know how well mics pick up voices thats understandable. What bothered me is you rarely looked up.... it appeared you were constantly looking at your hands or your junk or Spiral's junk. /me cares not to comment For all your***iness on the forums you didn't show it as much as say Stavros who appears***y on both forums and eve-tv. {edit} even though it looks like 5 letters were blocked by filter it was actually a 4 letter word that may refer to a rooster
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.06 16:32:00 - [70] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel The smack was present since last tourney as well due to commentators forgetting that they SHOULD be commenting on MATCHES and not putting their personal opinion or biases due to in-game affiliations. Also imo the selection of ppl is just wrong , like why pick someone who doesn't even play or someone who run website what ever or some celebrity ?!! Those are not grounds to mean that this person will provide good commentary , on the other hand it just loads more smack or extremely poor hearing. I think CCP is mixing up between celebrity style talk show and match commentary and those 2 are not even closely related , first option its fine to express the persons view biases or what not but in second option no one realy cares or want to listen to it. I'm sure there's a way to strike a balance between a proper match commentary and something that's entertaining with the right amount of humor and off the cuff randomness. Regarding the commentary portion, there is a limitation to the tools they're using such that they're not always able to get in and see the action properly to give a good solid point of view on the action. Hopefully that's something they can rectify. All I know is that the balance I mention isn't there, and I agree right now there's an inordinate amount of ego flaunting and smack. I'm not saying eliminate that altogether, the panel and commentary folks have their distinct personalities which need to come through to make things enjoyable for everyone involved. But don't let it overshadow their real purpose for being there. They're there to service the tournament and the viewers, not have a party. This can be accomplished while still having fun. I'm not saying it's all bad, there's certainly some great examples of how to do it right. NinjaTurtle, in my opinion, is a real standout here, and I wish he wasn't constantly being lost in the noise. He seems to at have put some decent thought and effort into being there. warp drive active \| nature vraie

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